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At least you are trying, but how do you explain the $250,000 worth of cigars? Wholesale or retail value? It is clearly stated in the pr, that retail value $20 for a cigar, which contains, I forgot, either 20 or 25 per box, that equates to $250,000 in retail price. SANP does not pocket that $250,000, at the most, they will probably pocket $85,000 maybe less, I don't know their profit margin, but I am estimating 35%, before expenses, such as, shipping cost, payrolls, commission, office space, and etc. When you do your homework get into the needy greedy stuff. The A/S is about conversion you say, watch and see what happens with next couple of days, this might hit 5...6...7...even 8 in the coming day, he will spread the shares like a butter on a frying pan and when that happens, it will dive back to 0.0001 again. I have to give you credit though, you are trying and for that reason, I may jump on it tomorrow, lets see if I can gobble up around 8 million for 0.0002 for some fun. It's some pluck you money, if you know what I mean. My argument is only for the person who said this was going to 0.036 and if that's the case with my 8 million shares tomorrow, if I should get it, according to him, I would be styling with a nice $280,000 in a few weeks. Must be nice to think the way he does, I mean sure, I have made $60,000 with CDII in a matter of 4 hours, but honestly, no way, no how, it's possible with this. I can see it going to 0.005-8 best case scenario, provided that they come out with an awesome news.
I believe you know. I believe you made an honest mistake. That's alright though.
Great post. Thanks fellow trader. At least someone with some common sense.
It doesn't matter to me too. Either way, heavy stuff is going on behind the scenes. However, I would have to say the "Quiet Period" is and was irrelevant at this point because Klean hasn't posted anything yesterday or today. so now, we move forward by waiting for some news about the merger, not if any, but when. I have a strong feeling that the merger is between what we have here and Klean will happen, it's just a matter of time. However, I was surprise to see someone dump the shares, without considering what the potential could be here, today, tomorrow, Monday, next week sometime, or next month sometime. There is no rational reason for selling, other than, either they made over 600%, or he needed the funds for a different trade, they might come back, provided the the price point for ASUV is still here. All the DD, leads to one answer, it's not maybe this, maybe that. All the roads lead to this, that, ASUV and Klean will merge, if in-fact, Klean goes through the process. If Klean posts on Facebook tomorrow, then quiet period still alive and well. Wait, is all we can do right now.
I don't know what you're smoking, but this is going no where, unless he buys the shares back, just like TPAC did. Enormous share structure. 9 billion A/S, yes, that's right, with a capital B, O/S with a capital B. This is going no where, at best it will retrace back to 2 and stay there until he figures out what he plans on doing with the share structure. I bet nothing, just milk the investors and laugh all the way to the bank. Tomorrow, dilution in progress. Plus, like he stated, it's all cash business, how do we know, how much he really makes? He is determined to milk everyone in his path. Read between the lines before you make that kind of an assumption.
Enormous share structure. This is going no where for the time being, unless he does what TPAC did, buy the shares back. Otherwise it's dead.
If the price drops to 2, I will reload, my position 160,000 currently. I will most likely add another 100,000 if it gets there, which I highly doubt. It will probably get there around the 1st week of May, provided that Harmonic and Klean don't announce anything by that time. Keeping fingers crossed on this possible beast. Everything points to merger, if it doesn't I will be shocked.
Just curious to know, if this will run to 1 cents, within a few months. Maybe I will consider getting close to 6 million tomorrow morning.
How long have you had this?
Noticed that, I am just hesitant of the dilution that might be announced after I get in.
A/S is enormous. I don't think there is much down side, maybe another 100% drop, then after some great pr, it should run multiple day to 0.001
I am holding this for the long haul. However, I think we got a little carried away with "Quiet Period" issue, where Klean posted of Facebook and we all assumed news should be around the corner. If we don't hear anything by 1st week of May. I afraid it will be longer than we all anticipated. If Klean doesn't post anything today and tomorrow, then I think the "Quiet Period" is irrelevant. But, due to their recent post, it was sending everyone on this board mixed signals.
Does this have anymore steam? Anyone? I wonder, if it will do what TPAC did, share repurchase program.
have no skin in the game. Tempting though, but I don't know if this still has the momentum running into tomorrow. I like the business model, I use to own a cigar lounge too, But, I don't like the share structure, that is what hindering me. Otherwise I don't mind getting 6,000,000 shares and see what it does. Just needed some of you guys to enlighten me a bit. None of that stuff please, read the latest announcement kind of stuff. Just an idea about the share structure, does the company have any future plans to announce share repurchase plan, just like TPAC did.
I am not to concerned about todays action. It's one of those things. Whoever sold was probably up 700-800% already and didn't want to wait it out. But, once the news hits, it could this afternoon, it could be any day. He/she will wish she didn't place that order. Oh well, another mans junk is another mans treasure, I guess. Great opportunity for some to gobble up the cheapie, while they last. I personally never experienced this, but I have had several instances from Yahoo or stock twits message board, where someone sold the day before and the stock shot up 100%, they said darn, I wish I never pulled the trigger. This may very well be one of those scenarios again.
Another excellent article, which I previously read also. I am not too concerned about today's action. Someone most probably was up heavily, maybe 700%-800% and he didn't want to wait anymore. In the those who wait a bit longer will stand tall with a 5000-10000% gain.
The last couple of days has been very quiet. It's alright to be muted on this thing, it doesn't concern me one bit, knowing the potential of the merger and where this will heading to consequently. Dollar land.
Also an excellent post. You smile and I frown in disbelief why peeps haven't noticed it yet, is mind baffling? But, I know that want last long. Somebody mentioned in the earlier posts, that it is more likely that if the merger is true they will come out with a LOI and 8k immediately following the LOI, I disagree wholeheartedly. If and when the merger is announced, it will be announced overnight that the merger is officially final, without giving the public anytime to digest the news. If it's done like the way I said they would, then this is Nasdaq bound, if an LOI and an 8k then OTC. I don't think the company wants any information leaked until it's officially done. Imagine if they did an LOI and an 8K right after, .30-.40 tops versus overnight 2-3 and then a few months later after the nasdaq listing 4-6.
I think what has happened here is, a few things. Number one scenario was, Harmonic has been approached by many, many entities to probably license their technology, which they most probably rejected all offers. Number two scenario, maybe a major corp like Goodyear, or Firestone wanted to buy them out right, they probably rejected all offers. I think Jamie Mann, wants a bigger pie, that's why, they probably waited all these years for Klean to get bigger and badder for the inevitable Nasdaq listing, not to mention hammering out a deal, with either Jamie could be a tough one. I know, Klean tried going public a few years back, but that fell apart, for some reason. I personally think they (Klean' CEO and Jamie Mann owe each other a favor, that's why this deal is the most feasible for them, Jamie Mann owns the technology, already a publicly traded company, with a good share structure and low debt, on the other side you have Klean, who has the resources and the means to make the recycling tire industry, huge. At the end of the day, they are industry veterans with the same business concept. This and all the DD that is on the sticky point is a great recipe for at least a 4-6 stock within a few months. Hope it helps.
Thanks for sharing it again, but absolutely a good reminder. I had looked at that previously, when Grolden, then you posted those same links. But, what I am baffled by is the accountant being in Vancouver, Canada. This is not a coincidence, this is an RTO in the making. The writing is on the wall, though I admit, there is some grey area, like is the "Quiet Period" over, they haven't posted anything today, so if nothing tomorrow and Friday, I could only assume "Quiet Period" still ongoing. Only because, the Facebook fiasco a couple of days ago got deleted, no reply from the Klean. So I believe we don't see a post by Klean by Friday, then the is still going. It's just a waiting game now, it will be worth the wait. Just to finish off for tonight, if anyone is sitting on the sidelines this is an RTO in the making for sure. I'll be the first to admit that I seriously doubted the hype, but the more and more I put 2+2=4 Merger. I am extremely confident that we will hear something about the merger soon rather than later.
Also, I found out something that was probably was never brought up on the sticky points. Harmonic Energy's (ASUV) accountant is in Vancouver, Canada, the same location where Klean Industries is. This is an RTO in the making for sure, now that I put all the pieces together. We just have to wait and see when the news is announced and how good the substance is, such as, share structure (what do current ASUV shareholders get, forward outlook, future Nasdaq listing, and etc. We know, they have the same share structure from looking at their filings, we know, they have the same legal attorney, we know, Jamie Mann is the secretary of Klean Industries, so essentially a board member, we know, Klean does tire recycling too, but I believe that ASUV's technology is far better and that is one of the reason that I think the merger is inevitable. I think this been working on this deal probably since 2012-2013, they just have't been able to hammer out a deal. This is for sure Nasdaq bound, although Klean is not as big as Waste Management, but they are a fairly size entity. So, how much will it be within the next few months, is anyones guess, bare minimum between 4-6.
c'mon NITE up the bid, let it go.
Random guy could be on this board, possibly an impatient one or someone watching from the sidelines and is not sure. Either way, he is a caput.
I think Klean deleted the post, not him. However, I think this is the real deal because Klean could have easily denied the post by not replying to his post, they did reply in this case, by deleting the post. Which is a great thing. I don't think it's him, if it was him, he would have deleted all the posts that he posted. Klean, wants to come out of this as clean and smooth as possible. Bullet train from ASUV to Klean. I also think they are reading this board.
I don't know what you guys make of this. But the person who posted the question on Facebook, his post has been deleted for some reason. I know whenever you post something on Facebook, you can delete it immediately after the post, but you can't delete it after a few hours, much less a day later. Correct me if I am wrong, could Klean have deleted the post and if they did, then 12 day silence could be what most of us were assuming. I don't know what to make of it.
100% agreed. The most important for me right now is, there is no dilution by the company. Also, consider this, if they don't post anything on Facebook between now and Friday, that means there was no "quiet period" if they do, then I can say with confidence that Klean was definitely in for a "Quiet Period." Either way, if there were in quiet period, expect to hear news by first week of May, if they weren't in a quiet period for the the same reason as I have explained above, then we would have to wait longer, either scenarios, are in our favor.
Calm before the storm. This is the way I like it. No buzz, no news, and no denial. I think this is the real deal. When and if the news hits the wires, this is going to be monstrous ride.
I like that term "moron" can I add idiot too.
No one is waiting for an update tomorrow, I know I am not. If it gaps up, it will sustain the gap, this is going to have it's momentum till the rest of the week. If it was next Monday, then I will say you are probably right. Mark this post, 10 end of the week, possibly 12-13 Monday, then it will retrace back to 9-10 till pending news if any. I been there done that too, since 1986. Caught in many of those traps, but I know how the game is played now. If this merger has any merits and substance, we are going to dollar land. Why would peeps sell. Especially, now that is closer than ever. Tick, tock, tick, tock. You don't have to jump in, just watch. If it gaps, it will sustain, otherwise, peeps are just going to wait it out, no one will sell tomorrow.
Somebody posted asked a question on Facebook from Klean, like if they were merging with ASUV and he says they responded by saying they knew nothing of ASUV. This guy can't be too bright. You think for a second that they are going to say "yes" we are doing a merger with Harmonic Energy. C'mon dude lay off and let this thing do it's own thing. These guys are so desperate, it's unbelievable. Lay off people, if it's destined, it will happen.
You too friend.
Just like the way I think and you think. but everyone is different. I guess we'll have to see. You made good argument though. It's just a waiting game. But some will think, what if I cash in now and if the deal doesn't go through, at least I didn't lose my gains. Right?
I know, but you have to also add psychology to the equation. You never know, what peeps are thinking or will be thinking come tomorrow or Thursday. Right
Duelittle had a nice chart from years ago. I am just curious to know, from the 90+ followers we have on this board today, how many shares could we account for approximately? I am inclined to believe that probably some, if not most will probably liquidate their position either tomorrow or Thursday, my estimate is probably about 25 will hold for the possibility of a merger. I know that I am in this all the way to the end. Somebody mentioned there is approximately 27 million float, the ticker sure acts like it, but I don't know that for a fact. More importantly, want to know, if peeps are still holding from years back or sold out, or even forgot their position, considering it was 3-4 years ago.
Guess not. He didn't get in, the bullet train has left already. If he gets lucky tomorrow morning, he might have to pay 50-70% premium, that is if he decides to jump on board, not walk. It's all up to him.
All aboard the bullet train, leaving Harmonic Energy (ASUV) to Klean Industries. If and when the news is released, monster ride to dollar land. Nothing will stop it from it's path, nothing. That's why added to my core position and of-course going against my rules. If the merger gets consummated with Klean, we are looking at an easy 2...3...possibly...4...5 dollar stock. No way, no how, it pops then settles back down to 3.5 or 4. Like Ricotto said, 7-9 then retraces back to 7, but I think he is being conservative. I think we blast pass .10 by end of the week easy. For those of you who are watching from the sidelines, this is the moment to ask yourself. What are the chances of this being the best trade you have made? I am not promoting this in any shape or form, I took a gamble on this and I know I have a 50/50 chance. But know this, from the sticky points by Grolden and all the rest of shinning boys and girls, oh, I almost forgot, Ricotto too, you can get vast information (due diligence) and conclude your own decision. This is a no brainer, everything points to the merger and if it doesn't, I'll say oh well. Also, remember this, don't invest more than you can afford. For me, this is basically some pluck you money, if you know what I mean. And more importantly, for those who are on the this bullet train, don't count your chickens before they hatch, just kidding, they already hatched, it's just the matter of time before you see the chicks, but these chicks are green, so don't surprise. Metaphorically. Good luck to everyone, may you have a joyous year and beyond, spend your money wisely.
What, no one wants to up the bid?
That was my order. 30,000 added
I don't like the anytime soon. I am rolling here body, don't put a damper on my roll. Lets go, lets go.
C'mon, up the bid and then I will follow you, whoever you are.