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well my common shares show ESCROW if that means anything
We are even then, I dont understand why you are saying CT's are gonna get full value even though they are rated at 60 cents. relax sit and have some water, stop drinking soda major cause of diabetes...
no way, Steve some people here think that they will get paid in full for their CT's so it must be true. Funny if they were to get cancelled and commons get a better deal. Oh no thats impossible it will never happened.....
your welcome
when in doubt use common sense, there has been a few important events that could have turned this thing around. Like the appointment of a mediator (Hotchbag), the discovery of insider trading. Now if nothing good came out of that what makes you think we are in a better position now? Even if BOD had the interest to buy a company they dont have enough money to realize but a very small piece of the tax attributes. And at this pace it will take them longer than 2030 to bring that 6B home so if you are in your 70's I suggest you turn those shares over to your kids.... By the way if we lost ordinary loss i dont see why it would not be possible to lose the tax attributes as well
Shaka seems like your optimism got flushed down the drain you are too emotional about this. control yourself .
It means the 6.5B in cash and assets was distributed long ago and since its not in our coffers you can kiss that goodbye. As for the distribution of shares just means all the 5 years we waited to see some action was wasted since people can readily buy shares now for about the same price without the wait and hassle free.
My guess is the disputed 5M shares are people that didnt claim them and waiting for court to decide what to do with them, such a small number of shares is useless if they put it in the pool we may get a fraction of one cent. Moral of the story is never trust your lawyers when they say they got you the best deal. May be the best deal for them but not for you. Oh by the way we have nothing.... Remember hopes and dreams dont have an effect on pps
It's called pumping , no substance though....
Once again I disagree but the main reason is why did our counsel advise us to sign releases and get nothing in return? Why didn't they try harder to come up with a list of assets? Why didnt they use hedgies insider trading more to our advantage? Also if Mike rat knew Rosen was working against us and Suckman did not provide any fruitful outcome why are they still here. The only thing they are doing best is charging the estate and ripping us off. These people are nothing but very expensive con-man deceiving us all.... This delays are gonna continue for as long as they can get away with it because all they are interested is in the MONEY to be made because old traditions like teaching your kids honesty, honor, loyalty are gone
Our representation was INCOMPETENT plain and simple, now we are paying for their mistakes. We should sue them....
thank you Bartos for the info, hope you are right that would be awesome if true.....
Well I was not taking into account the $90M in supposed intellectual property. Again Im new to this stock and maybe I'm wrong but I thought they sold at least some of that intellectual property a few months back and that is why the sudden spike to ~$4. In any case Im glad you are more positive on the possible outcome since I dont want to lose my money....
As stated before they filed for Bankruptcy protection and they owe quite a bit of money. Does not look good unfortunately...
I hope someone buys for $2, wishful thinking...
Well what a surprise looks like the same old story. Guess I was right. Still hanging onto a DREAM!!......
what are you talking about?, trading has been HALTED!!! Let's hope someone buys it and we make some money...
I am but have no idea was going on hope luck is on my side...
There is barely any money left for employee claims or the people who are still ahead of us. Where do you expect the money for escrow is gonna come from? Do you think Goldman will give money to our cause at the first sign of trouble?, Yeah just like JPM and FDIC funded our accounts, right? Expect several years of litigation to get crap whenever everything is said and done.....
There will always be some excuse to delay things that's how these criminals get paid. They will keep it up for as long as they can. You can't stop them....
so much exitement!! What do you guys think are going to get per share on settlement? $0.50, $10, $100?
SO IF I HAVE 106,000 COMMON SHARES MULTIPLIED BY 0.03 CENTS I WOULD GET AROUND $3,180. COOL!!!
Agreed!! I always though they would come up with plans to get rid of minority shareholders just like they have been doing for the last 5 years. They were close to put the last nail in the coffin for us but they are not done yet, is coming.....
NOW THAT'S THE PERFECT PLAN AND THE BEAUTY OF IT PICK IS THAT ONE DOESN'T EVEN NEED TO VOTE IN ORDER FOR IT TO BECOME TRUE. THEY HAVE IT ALL FIGURE IT OUT....
TO TELL PEOPLE THE TRUTH, THAT THERE ARE NO FLYING UNICORNS AROUND AS YOU GUYS PROFESS....... TRUTH HURTS
HAHA!! BACK TO 0.12 CENTS SEE YA AT 0.5 CENTS
THEN MM GAMES AS USUAL..
U AND DEVIL MUST BE SPENDING A FORTUNE ON SODAS IF YOU ARE WAITING FOR SOME KIND OF A PAY OUT. i WOULD SAY STICK TO WATER OR U MIGHT GO BROKE WAITING......
I DONT KNOW WHY PEOPLE KEEP HOPING FOR MONEY WHEN WE KNOW THERE ARE NO SOURCES OF MONEY AVAILABLE ONLY A PROMISE OF FUTURE VIABLE COMPANY WHICH UP TO THIS MOMENT IS NONEXISTANT.....GO FIGURE
COMPENSATION IS BASED ON THE VERY GOOD JOB OUR REPRESENTATION HAS ACCOMPLISHED SO FAR. THEY HAVE HIRED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT ARE CHARGING MONEY FOR DOING NOTHING OR DELAYING THINGS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, WHAT MORE CAN YOU ASK FOR REALLY? LET THEM DO THEIR JOB THEY ARE PROFESSIONALS AND HAVE TO MAKE A LIVING.....
And exactly what DO YOU THINK IS COMING?
BY THE TIME THERE IS SOMETHING GOOD GOING ON WITH THIS STOCK IT WILL BE SO DILUTED THAT IT WILL BE WORTH UNDER A PENNY......
LIKE I SAID BEFORE THIS STOCK HAS BEEN MOVING FROM 0.5 CENTS TO 0.15 FOR AT LEAST 3 YEARS. NOTHING NEW HERE...... I HAVE PLENTY OF ESCROW SHARES. IF SOMETHING MIRACULOUS WAS TO HAPPEN I WILL GET PAID BUT IM NOT HOLDING MY BREATH ON IT...
AT THIS PACE WE WILL GET PAID IN 5 YEARS....
HAHA THAT'S TEXTBOOK DEFINITION AND IT WON'T HELP CT'S. THIS IS NOT YOUR AVERAGE BK CASE. AT BEST CT WILL GET A LOW BALL OFFER TO GET THEM OFF THE WAY....
WHO SAID THAT? YOU, SHOW ME PROOF....THAT CT ARE AHEAD OF PREFERRED OR COMMON
GOOD JOB YOUR COMMON AND REGULAR PREFERRED WILL SAVE FOR YOUR CT'S A LOST CAUSE
I DONT KNOW ABOUT CT'S BUT IF THIS CONTINUES COMMON ESCROW IS GONNA GET FLOODED WITH MONEY....
People wont be so happy when it comes crashing down. Just a matter of time..
Im unsure if I should check withhold nominee or checked mark all of them? I dont want to vote for anyone on the BOD. I think I should checked marked all of them but not sure, Any help?
withhold all nominees. Against compensation and everything else. Who should I recommend? Voodoo, Catz, Large Green... PickStocks you up for it?