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From 10bagger: "What it shows is the size of GFCI and affiliates prior to all press releases"
Firstly, I agree that GFCI should insist that D&B update their data on GFCI and Coil Tubing.
The data in the reports has nothing what so ever to do with PRs. Jerry Griffith is listed as President of Grifco, Inc. That shows that the report on Grifco is at least older than Nov. 18, 2004. That's when Jerry Griffith ceased being the President of Grifco, Inc. The next day it became Grifco International and Jerry Griffith moved to Chief Operations Officer. The data could be even older.
In the case of CTT, Jerry Swinford is listed as President of CTT. That position was vacated in April 2005, when his Company was acquired by GFCI. He reassumed the President title with the spin off.
Always glad to help in the Fair & Balanced Department.
From Billy, "(for the life of me I don't know why he's in Libya this week, of all weeks- well there's one obvious reason but let's not go there yet)"
Here's a thought. Maybe the Government of Libya & NOC set up the formal grpound breaking for the manufacturing facility this week. And maybe Lybia and the NOC don't schedule their events around CTBG's filing plans.
I think that's a more obvious reason than your inuendo of things nefarious.
Maybe you ought to bookmark 10bagger's post # 2353 and refer to it in the unlikely event of you wanting to post as a Fair & Balanced Moderator.
Bag, I wqas wrong about you concealing oliveoil's name. I have olive on ignore. The post sounded like the stuff writes. I shot from the hip. Sorry..
From 10bagger to B2B. "I know the frustration you must have with a poster like me that asks over and over for share counts and finanicals.. Sorry to rufful your feathers as this is the only board on I-hub that you post..."
Bag, I don't think you can find one time that I've expressed frustration at you for asking about share count and fianacials. My problems with you are the distortions you post over and over and over. An example.
Yesterday you copied two more posts from RB. With both you wrote that the name of the poster was witheld. As nearly as I can recall that was the first time you've withheld the name. IMO you withheld the name because the posts were made by oliveoil, the RB bpard clown. You follow the Board, so you know what I say to be true. Have you seen even one other poster on RB do a Zoom, Zoom, Zoom or To The MOON, type post? IMO you pasted in the two posts to further your view that RB posters are mindless dreamers.
Any OBJECTIVE reader of GFCI RB and GFCI I-Hub knows that there is far more usefull discourse on RB than here among the I- Hub Negs. Your GFCI personna continues to be no more than an obsesive stalker
10bugger, this is a perfect example of you putting the worst spin on things GFCI.
"GFCI is trading down 0.05.. Could we be hearing from Clevrox...???..hank"
You Know that a drop of a nicklel is perfectly natural after a run from .115 to .31, yet you imply that the drop may be caused by some bad news coming out of today's meeting. The pull back happend. an hour and 15 minutes after the meeting was scheduled to start. Hardly time for bad news, learned in the meeting, to have spread.
I still don't get what turns VMC's 10bagger, Dr Jeckyll into GFCI's 10bugger, Mr Hyde.
"now humor me" OK. Is cock rob'n a bird or a crime? How's that?
I don't have another explanation for Dial's near complete silence on O/S, finances, products and operational updates. The larger question for me, is why he has kept the pps supressed.
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What ever people think of Mike King, he has been in the Game for a while. He told me something a couple of weeks ago that ties into what 10 posted.
I asked him about spin -off shares being restricted. He said that the SEC will not allow spin-off divided shares to be unrestricted until after the parent files financials with the SEC. He said it could be a 10 filing or GAAP statement. He said that the SEC must know the parent's assets and liablities.
"if you want to demean yourself publicly"
Gee Billy, after that silly rant of your's about suing BBB and warning people not to contact BBB and me, i'm surprised demean is still in your vocabulary.
I'm in with an avg of .39.
It's down.
"where's all the buying???"
1.4 million shares traded. Up .045. There it is, Jerk! Well, you said you wanted to be called by the proper title.
Yes, I'm name calling. If it sounds like a duck, walks like a duck---you know the rest.
It will see some profit taking and drop & you will be here crowing about it. After all you are "famous" for your investing. I still chuckle every time I think of that statement of yours.
GFCI.PK - News) today announced May 1, 2006, as the record date for the previously announced spin-off wholly owned subsidiary Coil Tubing Technology, Inc. ("CTT"). Grifco shareholders will receive 1.89 shares of CTT for every one share held in Grifco as of the record date"
Fellow GFCI Longs. Today I found out that I'm getting 529,200 shares of a Company with amazing growth potential, and I'm just in the middle of the pack. I wonder what kind of day the GFCI I-Hub Negs had. Not as good as ours, I'll bet.
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In reading Billy's many posts today, it struck me what he reminds me of. A bitter divorcee.
It's Christmas morning and the kids are gleefuly opening presents they got from Daddy. "Hey Mom!!! Look what Daddy got us"
Yeah. It's cheap junk. He'll probably take the cost of it off this month's child support. I'll bet he got his girlfriend's kids much nicer presents"
She can't let up for one stinking day. Sound familiar anyone?
" Meanwhile BBB and B2B have been singing the praises of the man "
Billy, I've had very litte good to say about Dial since he paid that Canadian scam to represent GFCI in China. Recently someone on RB asked about Dial's background and I told them about his time with the Brandt Company, without embellishment.
For you to say that I've been singing the praises of Jim Dial is another of your distortions.
Don't worry tough. I'm not going to threaten to sue you. That would be a rediculous, childish rant!
Hard to believe Dial isn't giving a presentation, communication genius that he is.
Lentinman, I think you probably know that GFCI has not updated their new website since it was introducced last August or so. I don't hink the Buy Back PR was ever posted on it.
Why do you say "they" removed it elsewhere? What evidence do you have that "they yannked " the PR? Ameritrade links to it. So does I-Hub. Interestingly I even found that Weatherford International, A competitor of CTT, links to it.
As I've said before, Grifco has enough real issues without the I-Hub Negs racing to the worst conclusion with things Grifco.
I've got your hysterical right here!!!
" (despite a famous record at investing and picking stocks)
Now, that's hysterical!
blue---AMEN!!
Here's another negative RB post to add to the I-Hub Boys collection. Enjoy!
By: snidely187
17 Mar 2006, 12:41 PM EST
Msg. 8628 of 8655
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F U ck Jim Dial you owe me some money, also dont be a pu $ $y email me back bi tch
Here's another from gypsy joker. I'm surprised it hasn't been pasted here befroe. I'll save you guys the trouble.
By: gypsy_joker
08 Feb 2006, 10:10 PM EST
Msg. 6928 of 8464
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They Really Should Hire Some...
Armed security.
Cause it won't be much longer, before
someone drives down there and goes postal.
Let's just hope they take out the crooks and not some hapless dupe sittin' at a machine.
This is really startin' to smell.
Smell bad.
The SEC could save their lives, if they would just go down there and lock'em up.
There has to be some kind of a law for crooks like these guys.
So get out now.
Before they steal it all.
Accept your loss, and learn.
And if you choose to seek revenge, which can be very therapeutic for some, please aim steady, and at the right targets and be careful of innocent bystanders.
Or just follow them home, where there are no innocent bystanders. Can you imagine what kind of family they are raising. This is bad enough, we don't need more of them.
everrox, are you saying Lois always works from home? If so, that's not true. My understanding is that the power is out while the elactrical system is being worked on. I know people that have been in and out of the office in Spring. Lois is there when they have been in.
Hank, WTG! For a guy who isn't looking for bashers, you stumbled onto two of them. Snidley is your latest find. Keep looking, you'll finddicter_turner and gooddeal.
"Friday the volume was over 20,000,000 shares and today over 1,000,000.. I think the post that I reprinted says it all and now if the company does not answer it's phones---
Have you considered trying to stay a little closer to the truth with your posts? Yahoo thinks the volume was 5.8 million on Friday. Where did you get +20 million? The phone is answered at Grifco. I talked to Lois last week. She answered on the second ring.
The only serious question Snidley raised in the post that you so thoughtfully psted to I-Hub was about financials. A great service you performed in pasting that over here. We had rarely heard that issue raised before.
Hank, good for you! You found zen_cohen. Look up dicter_turner and gooddeal69. They have some great negative posts on GFCI also. Happy cutting and pasting!
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You are a LIE.. To come on this board with a company that does not file and pretend that you know somthing is a LIE... Go away and play your crap some where else."
Excuse me Hank, but in your excitement you must not have noticed this IS the Grifco International Board.
" Refrain from further interaction with BBB, B2B as this proceeds, both to avoid any potential conflict and to keep my patience and temper in check.
I've been damaged!!!! I used to have lots of friends on the BBs. Now I'm shunned. I don't know if they are worried about being included in Billy's lawsuit or if they are just in fear of the WRATH of BILLY.
Either way, I'm faced with a life time of loneliness. So Sad.
"have a reputation here, I have people reading this material that depend on my insight and knowledge."
Bill, Lay down, take a deep breath and repeat. I am not a God. I am not a God. I am not a God. I hope this helps.
Bill, you are truly an amazing individual! Apparantly your personality just won't allow you to talk straight. Oldtex very politely asked if you planned to post a correction to your post regarding the erroneous share count given by otcbb.com. He went on to say this.
"However, on the RB board where you found this, there were several posts that showed this was totally inaccurate and just a glitch in the system of the provider.
I am curious why you did not post the correction? Is it because you haven't revisited RB or you only post negative finds?"
Now lets examine your response. You wrote:
"oldtx: I had not read the RB board since. I don't know if there was a retraction necessary because the link seems to have changed. I did see one poster that was going to "demand a public (or formal) retraction" from otcbb.com. I am sure that the full weight of OTCBB.COM's legal team is behind that effort as we.
You say in the post you made at 11:30 AM that you had not read the board since. The post you are refering to was made an hour and a half later, @ 1:00.PM. Why lie about something like that? In the same paragraph you speak of a poster that was going to "demand a public retraction. I'm the person that made that post. Here it is.
"I sent an e-mail to otcbb.com asking for a clarification and a formal retraction."
Do you understand the difference between "asking" and "demand"? I'm sure you do, but you must of thought it added weight to your post by distorting what was actually said. Not a new wrinkle to your M.O.
I'm in favor of open, honest ( you can find 'honest" on page 620 of the American Heritage Dictionary) of any topic. When I read the post about the otcbb .com share count, I noted that it was posted at 10:45 PM on Wednesday night and no one had mentioned it, On Thursday @ 10:03 AM I made this post to open discussion.
"Why is no one responding to printmail's bombshell? Do we all think it will go away?"
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If anyone learns something factually wrong with GFCI or CTBG, bring it on! My problem is with those that post distortions and lies.
You may notice I dropped Dr. from your screen name. Frequently Dr. carries an implied respect.
Oh MY GOD!!!! Jupiter and Gfirco have very similar websites!!!Call in Eliot Spitzer!!!
Wait a minute. Could it be that two little companies used the same cut rate website designer? Nah, that's not juicy enough.
Notice: This is not an attempt at kiss and make up.
bramabill. 10 bagger is a very astute investor and can do DD with the best of them. I-Hub Value MicroCaps is an excellent Board. I recommend it to anyone interested in Micro Caps.
My problem is that a small group from that board fill GFCI I-Hub with highly subjective negative posts. The worst thing about this board is that most positive posts are raked over the coals.
I was born into the oil fields and spent most of my life in it. I have many contacts in the sector. BBB and I probably have gotten more information on GFCI than anyone I've seen post on the Boards.
We can't provide the PROOF demanded by detrators. The oil Patch has a real problem with investor spys. My contact's Companies are very Martha Stewart sensitive. They will not allow me to be specific with things I learn.
I don't post my personal DD on I-Hub. I don't need the aggravation.
Yes, I know GFCI needs to post O/S and financials.
Thanks for the spelling tips, Lent. I'm seriously vision impared and find it difficult to proof read my posts. I've found a very fast way for me to check a word that I'm having trouble spelling.
I click on to the Anal Retentives chat room. I do a short post using the word. If I have spelled it worng, I immediately get back 6 or 8 posts correcting me. What name do you post under on the chat room?
See you there!
No, no 10bag, this remains the quintessential I-Hub GFCI board. mrdmrd and bramabill dare to post something positive about GFCI. Driving the I-Hub sharks into a feeding frenzy.
The arrogance of the VMC bunch is astounding! This from 10bag, last week: "It appears that on the RB board there finally is a discussion about the number of shares outstanding and the finanicals.. ------ I have spent on this board a complete waste of time until today.. NOW there are others asking.."
Are you so arrogant that you truely beleive those on Raging Bull haven't been discussing O/S and financials for months?.
We know there is no official account of either. It troubles us. We have factored it into our personal risk factors.
IMO, you 10bag, have an unhealthy obcession with GFCI. OK. you lost money on GFCI. I've lost money on stocks. I don't stalk rheir message boards posting lies and distortions.
You should spend more time fishing and at your much mentioned boat yard.
You got me me Lent! 366 is greater 156. bramabill posted 366 since May, Dr Bill 156 since Oct
You are proving my point about twisting thigs to fit your agenda. The last word can be your's.
Lentinman, when did Bramabill claim to be an
expert on GFCI?
"NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON MARK???? Oh, yea. That's where you want to get your GFCI opinions from!"
WOW!!! Not having person marks must be really, really important in judging the worth of a poster,. Worthy of all caps and4 question marks.
Gee I eonder how many Person Marks Dr Bill, one of your favorite posters has. Lets see. ZERO??? How can it be?
I have a point here. You have so much distain for GFCI that you are compromising your integrity. If you and your team are driven to inform investors, wouldn't it be better if you tried real hard to stop distorting things to fit your agenda, whatever it may be?
Welcome to a typical day on I-Hub Bramabill.
Lentiman, "I have never heard of anyone that singularly focused."
Lent, let me help in your quest to enlighten the Board. One of your favorite posters, Dr Bill, has 156 total posts on I-Hub. All on GFCI. You're welcome, in advance.
10bagger, Thank you for this information. You should consider this. You have said that onereason you post is to inform unsusoecting invesstors of problems associated with a company. If that is truly your intention, shouldn't you refrain from posting and supporting distortions? A little more fair and balanced, maybe.
I'm a retired Construction Manager with just over 3 years of investing experience, yet I saw through the resent CTBG pump and dump scheme. On the other hand, you have been a professional investor, but you used it as a way to further discredit CTBG / GFCI.
I'll see to it that Jim Dail and Jerry Swinford get the article you jposted. Thanks again.
10bagger, you question or put a negative spin to all or practically all of GFCI /CTBG's PRs, yet you unquestioningly buy into the theory that CTBG paid for the recent e-mail /fax blitz. Can you ackonoledge that the blitz could have been a pump and dump scheme, piggy backing on the Legitimate PRs? CTBG isn 't listed as the paying party in any of the 3 e-mails or the one fax that I saw.
You are, or have been, an investing professional. Please be frank here Hank. Do you belive a company would pay 500,000 shares for an e-mail with a line at the end that, to the effect, read "If CTBG cannot secure financing, they could cease to be a going concern" ?
IMO the 3 e-mail were the pump.The fax was the last piece of the blitz. It had the going concern comment and was the dump. E-mails are more traceable than a fax. It was designed to creat doubt and start the selling. It worked.
Dr Bill, I'm pretty sure I'm the person you are referring to.
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"I happen to know of one poster here, who got in touch with me then didn't like my style of no holds barred no truth unturned posting, who holds close to $100,000 worth of original investment in this company."
For the record , my first "off board" contact with you was on August 9,2005 when you sent me an em and asked me to call you, which I did. I have the email and phone records to prove it.
Your "hard hitting no truth unturned posting" had nothing to do with what turned me off to your posting. It was your endless self aggrandizing style. Most of your posts are made of some words to separate all the "I"s and "me"s.
Yes, I know we need a share count and financials.
Also for the record, I own 250K shares @ .41 avg. That's a substantial portion of my investing portfolio, but a much smaller part of my net worth. But, thanks for your concern.
I know from 10bagger's record on I-Hub VMC and Zip Code Changers that he is a serious investor with a demonstrable investing track record. Why he spends so much time with this "probably a scam" little pinky is a mystery to me.
On the other hand, you're easy.
yowser, I respect your post. You've looked and GFCI and decided it's not for you, at this time. You even say you are watching in case you see a reason to hop back on. Good for you. A good honest post. No distortions, lies or inuendo.
Good Luck
10bagger, you keep asking for facts and proof. Maybe you could light a candle in the darkness by sticking a little closer to the truth your self.
From 10bagger: "PRs, in the case of GFCI... Not one has ever been followed up with results and that is what I will bring to each mis quoted fact that is posted....Hank
"never flowed up--"
Said they were buying the SCUDA tool. They did. Announced a $3 mm + deal for the tool.
Announced they were buying Ko-Vac systems. They did.
Announced they were buying CTT. They did.
Announced they were buying Global Oil Tools. They did.
Announced the Libya deal. Followed up with an announcement that the US State Department had approved the deal. Followed up that Libya had also approved it.
Announced they had started a search for a CFO. They hired one.
Announced the CTT spin off. Proof that the spinoff is progressing is the new CTBG symbol.
And yes, announced they shipped 50 Jet Motors. No, I can't account for any where near all 50, but I do know for a fact that they are in the field. I don't give a crap if you beleive it or not.
You follow GFCI closely enough to know that your statement about Never following up is disengenuous, at best.
You wrote "in post #1329 "GFCI posted on their website it was acquiring XOM" You know this isn't true. You know that back in March GFCI had an unsecured website that allowed people
to make entries into their News section. You know a prankster made that post.
GFCI has enough real problems without you posting distortions and, yes Lies.
Dr. Bill, your opinion of your self knows no bounds. I'm sure you're the only person on the face of the globe that puts an gram of credibility in this statement of yours.
" I hope have helped him plot a more accurate course of action. One that will end up with this investment being a huge winner for all concerned."
When Grifco / CTBG become big winners, all but you will ascribe their success to the tools they manufacture, sell and rent, J. Swinford's genius and Dial's ability to grow the companies.
This will be a shock to you, but Dr Bill will have NOTHUNG to do with Grifco's success.
You used the words I, and me 11 times in your last post. Most narcissits buy mirrows. You look into your monitor.
"a sleazy business than a business that makes nothing "
Lentiman, is your point that GFCI makes no products or that they make no profit?
10bagger, funny you should reference that old post of mine. It's the one that first "introduced" me to you and Lentiman.
You pasted the Lyamec rant PR in which they said that Grifco may lose the deal with Global. The PR was retracted the same day it was released. Three days later Lyamec issued the "Kiss & Make Up" PR in which they said all was cool between all parties. As closely as you stalk GFCI, I'm pretty sure you knew you were putting up a PR that had been corrected. To make matters worse you said ""The major source of income has been lost to GFCI". No one had ever claimed that the Global deal would be THE major source of income to GFCI. A clear distortion on your part. When I called you on it, Lentiman galloped to your defense. Not a word about you distortions.
I have no problem with negative posts that point out the short comings of a stock I hold. In fact I sent BBB an e-mail in which I said I agreed with Dr Bill's post #968. I do have a problem with those that post lies, distortions or make silly statements. Like comparing a PR announcing the purchase of 2 CNC machines to announcing the purchase of automobiles, desks and chairs. If you are that ignorant of the importance of two CNC to a business engaged in manufacturing, maybe you should keep that ignorance hidden under one of those desks
Hang around 10 bagger. It's a public board. But these two posts of your's puzzle me.
#983. "As I will not post about GFCI any longer,,,"
#966 "I too will dissapear from this board because all that can be said,,,
How can I miss you if you're never gone?
BBB, Why are you butting heads with this bunch? Longs know we need lots of answers from GFCI management to ever get the PPS headed up. OF COURSE we need audited financials and a bonified share count. Three weeks ago we needed a CFO. Today we have one. It's perfectly reasonable to expect him to review and accept any financial data before the Company goes public. I'm weary of the delays, but I'm not going to engage in some cyber version of a parlor game, as some have chosen to do.
My guess is that you and I know more about the operations side of GFCI & CTTI than any regulaer posters on these Boards. I have ttied to hint at things I know to give encouragement to serious longs. I know you do the same. Much of what we know was given to us in confidence, for good reason. Many on I-Hub are far more interested in riping anything positive than considering it seriously.
Two cases in point: GFCI issues a PR announcing the purchase of two new CNC machines. That is significant news, yet one local hero compares it to issuing a PR about buying automibles, desks and chairs. Talk about specious!
Just today a greatly admired constant negative poster tries to turn news that GFCI has gotten to the point where they are turning away work, into a bad thang. Especially in light of Grifco needing to add production capacity with two new CNCs.
You're wasting your time on I-Hub GFCI BBB. Post news on RB. Let them lower themselves to peeking in there for news. Let this board stew in it's own bile.