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OT: "North Korea is a nation of starving people,beyond me why the population has not learned from the prosperity of the south."
its the typical problem of a nation with too many mouths and one @sshole ...
mlsoft,
i think i owe u a percentage off my brks short from 13.5 ... was "your idea". thanks
OT popups etc.
if you use mozilla/phoenix, you can configure it directly to eliminate popups, or permit them only for specific sites ...
> No economic numbers in the morning.
consumer credit.
> This is one of the reasons I have never had a flu shot, I
> rather my body deal with it.
hmm. but isn't this what vaccines generally do anyway: introduce some part of the virus to your body, which your body can develop an immunity to, without you getting the disease ...
oops, sorry. i was looking at hong kong.
> japan, korea ...
where do you see this? i'm seeing japan up modestly and korea down ....
http://finance.yahoo.com/m2?u
"fatalities are slowing down, that's good news."
that would be good news. however, you can't draw that conclusion from the data presented. the spread has apparently happened through too few people so far, so the numbers should currently show some periodicity related to incubation time, or at least time between infection and beginning of shedding virus. see if it peaks again within the next 10 days ...
"Do you really think that Bush would be willing to put all our troops in harm's way just to give a try at raising the market????"
do *i* believe? 'course not. but i'm pretty sure you said that yesterday. nevertheless, maybe you just meant that in an opportunistic sense, in which case, i'd agree ...
"I believe the reasons for our going into Iraq are exactly what we have stated them to be ... "
i must have missed this. what are these reasons?
"The middle east is already unstable."
mmm. and yahoo is down 90% ...
> Why do you think the Muslim world would show gratitude when not
> even the french do that after we saved them twice with our
> blood?
>
> mlsoft
u guyz are just so harsh and single minded. the neocon agenda is destabilization of the middle east. its a valid argument, whether to pursue that or not. what you're saying is that its basically an issue of friendship or gratitude to accede to us on this issue; but its not. bush, unfortunately, "took the offensive" here and started calling this "appeasment". but to cede to the u.s. position without participating in the argument is where appeasement comes in ...
mlsoft, you yourself have been arguing that the war is a smokescreen for market manipulation. and while that may be true to some extent, thats probably not the primary goal. the primary goal is further destabilization of the middle east. however, one way or the other, how can u fault anyone for not giving in when you and i and countless others believe that the debate leading up to war was all about pretexts?
"The war looks over if ever there was one."
while that might be true, and would be great if it is, remember too that one of the big targets early last week was iraq's propaganda machinery, so that we're really now getting just one side of the picture; or at least, we're getting the picture skewed the way the coalition wants it skewed. add to that the other pr plays (e.g. the upi story on how we paid off that tribe of friendly iraqi's featured on the news last week) ...
"1) The markets have been programmed to rally, rally when
Iraq falls. How long does it last?. One day, one week or
one quarter? But rally it will."
but what if there is no "event" that we see as the "fall"? e.g. what if their plan is what this week's propaganda suggested, of a rolling introduction of the shadow gov't and cutting off baghdad from the rest of the country? from what i've read elsewhere (new republic, i think), this was characterized early as the least costly in terms of civilian casualties.
"6) I am hopeful. Just wish we would get on with it."
hopeful! wall street needs more like you :) me, though, i don't want to buy hope. i'd rather buy stocks with pessimism and despair priced into them. i can manufacture my own hope.
" ... that have people putting their money into this market."
who? i thought mutual fund flows were pretty much net negative, even now ...
"I think we dropped on fear of chemical attack."
economic numbers in the a.m. should do it, though. if only for the open. i.e. there are many reasons not to hold into the close ...
re voting
see, now why weren't they that clear and straightfoward in florida?
> Alicia Silverstone
reese witherspoon!
"Maybe a chem attack is coming ..."
well the track record on things like "hidden scuds" and "wired oil wells" isn't so good ...
re CREE
sigh. STILL not able to short it via schwab ... its been this way for weeks. must be a massive stubborn bunch of shorts there.
well, though i agree with you about intervention in the markets, there must be other players out there with an interest in holding things up here too, other than just greensperm. e.g. i was watching pmcs on island towards the close (i'm short, and if i'm around my machine, i usually have it or something up). anyway, right towards the close, a big chunk of 100k+ shares came in on the bid @ 5.95. not that that's unusual, i suppose, but is very unusual for pmcs on island (i.e. i've never seen it before). that's on the one hand, on the other hand, it was sold pretty hard - gone within the last 5 minutes of trading. i'm sure that wasn't alan. whether its someone whose fate is tied up with the green man's or not, who knows. but there are other players out there ... (this presumably whoever it was who spent all that money getting pmcs up from below $5 to $7 during the rally).
"Stocks are frozen in time."
not gg. :)
> IBM
from iqcharts: negative money flow yesterday ...
there is hope for truth in advertising
apparently the marketing dept is moving just a bit faster than the r&d guys on microsoft's trustworthy computing initiative ...
[Johannesburg, 20 March 2003] - The Advertising Standards Authority of SA (ASA) has ordered that a Microsoft ad implying that its software will bring about the extinction of the hacker is to be pulled for being "unsubstantiated and misleading".
An objection was lodged by freelance journalist Richard Clarke, in his personal capacity, who complained that the advert was untrue. He claimed Microsoft software is littered with vulnerabilities.
[...]
http://www.itweb.co.za/sections/business/2003/0303201315.asp?O=FPMS
same. though i have some gg from friday (long) and some in fidelity select gold ...
> where are all the bagholders ...
doing what they're supposed to be doing, i think: holding their bags ...
:)
well, i could use a good day :) i'm too much of a perma bear, i guess. though most people who know me say i'm just a teddy bear.
http://profiles.yahoo.com/t_parker16
please, temper your bloodlust. its only money ...
re supporting the market:
everyone was citing a quotation from the financial times, if that helps ....
by the way,
as a non-subscriber (boo! hiss!) i can't reply to private messages. but thanks to those who did reply in the past, especially extelecom, who pointed out a linux stock streamer ...
http://linuxtrade.0catch.com/
re msft
true: but there are at least two things helping rhat right now. (1) ibm does a good bit of the marketing and pushing for them. (2) constrained budgets provide good motivation for change.
but you're right, the big effort will be just to get folks to make the switch. e.g. there are so many good reasons for switching away from outlook for email to something like ximian evolution. it works the same (better) and without all of the security holes. and yet, folks would prefer to fork over the big bucks to msft (and symc for the additional security software) than just go back and start over.
i still think its inevitable, but then i'm an optimist :) or a pessimist, i suppose. depends on where you're invested ... :-P
i wouldn't be at all surprised if the servers were overloaded ...
re RHAT
but of course the biggest reason has to be: its cheap (actually free, but you pay rhat for services). i honestly don't see how msft will continue to command these premiums for things like 'office', e.g., when 'open office' is a virtual clone of it and does practically everything that its main user base wants.
parker
proud linux user since 1993 :)
well if its any comfort, so am i.
"there is no corelation between fundamentals"
jeepers. i'm saddened.
but re that "research report", i'm surprised that any researchers from harvard and stanford could even attempt to quantify a "saddam factor" and its toll on the market. how could you possible disentangle that one variable from all the other variables int the system. must be some grad students who need a paper really bad ...
of course, you also need to remember that alot of what comes out from official "news" sources is disinformation intended to help the war effort by weakening confidence and resolve in iraq. (after all, they're watching everying as well. part of the reason, i'm sure, for the extensive on-the-spot news coverage as well.) so we don't quite know what is true and what isn't. although, in an interview i heard with a journalist from al jazeera (sp?) on npr, apparently their coverage is more skeptical of these announcements.
anyway, your monday target might be right. otherwise, there's apparently a hiatus starting monday night because of coming sandstorm.
"The researchers at Stanford University and Harvard University looked at how much value the U.S. stock market lost as online bets increased that the United States would go to war to oust Saddam Hussein."
wow, i wonder who funded this research. and here i thought the price of stocks had something to do with corporate earnings, etc. silly me.
re ticks
well that's what i would have thought (sorta), but it brings to mind a question: why is the tick almost always positive?
... and lets not forget
those oodles of wmd's ...
"SG Cowen ups Applied Materials ..."
these guys are still so utterly shameless ...
yah, sure you can. but there are much better programs out there for windows .... back during the bubble, someone wrote a nice ticker that could fit into your 'panel' (like the menubar on a mac). but nowadays, i don't think many of those hackers really care much about the market ...
yah. smoke and mirrors. linux will commodotize windows/operating systems and most common software. the only question is, how long will it take. the big stumbling block for many, i guess, is not 'cool new features', but the cost of transitioning. but at some point we'll hit that threshold. (gnumeric spreadsheet is very cool, and open office is all i ever use ... now if only there was something better than iqcharts on linux ... although, in theory, i could run 'windows in a window' via vmware, i suppose.)