Zeev's Turnips Patch-No Politics (ZEEV)

[TJ Parker]

> Why do you think the Muslim world would show gratitude when not
> even the french do that after we saved them twice with our
> blood?
>
> mlsoft

u guyz are just so harsh and single minded. the neocon agenda is destabilization of the middle east. its a valid argument, whether to pursue that or not. what you're saying is that its basically an issue of friendship or gratitude to accede to us on this issue; but its not. bush, unfortunately, "took the offensive" here and started calling this "appeasment". but to cede to the u.s. position without participating in the argument is where appeasement comes in ...

mlsoft, you yourself have been arguing that the war is a smokescreen for market manipulation. and while that may be true to some extent, thats probably not the primary goal. the primary goal is further destabilization of the middle east. however, one way or the other, how can u fault anyone for not giving in when you and i and countless others believe that the debate leading up to war was all about pretexts?