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I'm pretty sure they were paying Facebook to promote it. The squeegee Youtube video had 25K hits! but face book page is only 146 fans. I personally think it says a lot when these videos get Youtube hits. Countless times I've been watching TV and Seen even the funniest comercials and never have I said to my self. I'm going to look up that comercial on youtube! and I have Youtube on my Iphone I don't even have to get up! lol but it still sucks being in the dark.
I believe they are still air comercials. The You Tube hits are up another 100 or so today.
Sorry yes I did mean profit. And I guess I'm already a bag holder. Don't want to be a double bag holder. lol Down about 4 k here though not as bad as most. I hope we can get a new up trend starting soon!
A PE of 20+ would make me the happiest camper in Chicago! :)
I'd say about 5 mil in revenues at a P/E of 10-15. A thrid product in the works and some retail agreements. I'm curious to see how much a product is aired when it does go full blast. If a test run is about 20 times per week, they could potentially air it 10 times that which would be 200 times a week. And if they sell 1000 units every time it airs ( this is all speculation of course) and they air it for 12 weeks ( 3 months) taking us to november or so. They could potentially sell 2,400,000 units at $10 each thats 24 mil at 25% profit margin that would be 6 mil. On the other hand if they only sell 100 units every time it airs then that figure would be 600K. Which would warrant a share price of about where we are currently at. Granted this is only the G-spout figures. and if they do the same with the squeegee ( not counting that the price is double) that could potentially put us anywhere between 1.2 and 12 mil in revenues.
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This was posted 7 days ago. Product recognition of this sort could be huge! sex sells lol
From the rate / comment section of the You Tube G-Spout video.
"LMFAO!!! OMG wft were they thinking when they named this product. I heard the commercial playing on TV, and choked on my drink."
Ah sorry, I see your post was in response to Stockhawk's.
I don't think you'll be able to cover, I mean buy 50,000 at .16 on Monday. JMHO
Sry no PM yet. But I think the fact that they are exclusive says a lot!
Anybody here familuar with BuySide? Do they have a big subscriber base?
Great post! I think your right, revenues are on the horizon.
Is that the corn Tmorro planted back in April?
Thats cause the market dosn't know that they are still airing comercials except from the 5 investors or so reading this board. And they already have established positions. I mainly think its awesome because it verifies that an increase in you tube hits confirms that they are still airing the comercials which is what I thought the other day and is now confirmed.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing.
The video on the web site reflects the 9.99 price plus the you tube hits are still going up so I'm certian they are airing it. I would hope that they arn't doing this because of having to many in stock though. If they wanted to get rid of them they should just air more comercials, full blast baby :) Also I have dreams of a GIANT warehouse full of squeegees and G-spouts. But its only half full because I'm subconsciously waiting for two more products.
This could be a good thing or a bad thing. Could be bad because we now have to sell twice as many to make the same $$. But if we sell 150% more because the price is 50% off than it would be worth it. I bet they are probably running some more comercials to gauge interest.
Yeah, well he did say he was doing his business thing. Also it is kinda exhausting having to endlessly and futilely defend a stock on these boards.
Thanks! Nice charts.
How's the spider looking for next week?
I guess "Suckered" was the wrong term for me to use. I havn't given skymark a dime and I bought on my own accord. The longs here are buying at these levels and are certianly not selling! If you are short you should of covered yesterday. I'm guessing the ask price was more than the price your borrowed your shares at? You might want to cut your losses Monday as I wouldn't be surprised if we get some more news.
I had an order in at .17 all day today. I don't know how it didn't get filled when this dropped down to .16 but I had to slap the ask at .21 around 1:30 to fill that order maybe because it was only for 430 shares. Either way looks like selling at these levels is drying up and any major news / big volume and this thing should pop!
Thats how I got suckered in as well. All thought the company I was in ( I transfered all of that position over to TSHO last year) has since went down 50% then did a reverse split and then whent down another 50% So either way I wouldn't of been sitting to pretty. Except that TSHO ran 140% from my initial postion and if I new a little bit more about trading at the time I probably would of taken some profits.
Great PR! I think I saw the word Retail mentioned like 4 times!
A helpfull link to help identify a companys fundamentals.
http://www.investopedia.com/university/fundamentalanalysis/default.asp
Good post and your right in some aspects. But you got me thinking what are fundamentals? Everyone tosses that word around but what exactly does that entail? I found a link that gives a well rounded idea of what fundamentals are and what makes a company fundamentally "good"
http://www.investopedia.com/university/fundamentalanalysis/default.asp
From a qualitative aspect regarding the comapany and industry. I would say that TSHO has an edge. We have a business plan that is simple, is being implemented and in theory should be Lucrative.
What we are lacking is the financial strength. ( Which I hope is soon to follow) I didn't read all of this link as im at work right now. But there seems to be some valuable information there. Also I don't think that the U/S has flopped and when you say, "We all know how well that sold" well... we don't all we know is that Ceasri and TSHO think it will do better coupled with a retail agreement. And with Lunel's track record for following through on what he says I wouldn't be surprised if we hear something about a retail agreement soon. But at this point we just need to wait and see.
you shouldn't judge companies solely on their average volume.
"If the company's fundamentals are strong, you should not rule out the possibility of purchasing any stock of the company, but you must do a thorough research before making any final decisions."
http://www.greekshares.com/volume.php
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Yeah it did take about two weeks to release test info on the squeeg. But still last PR dated 6/11 Coming up on two months now. We should be hearing something soon.
Ok cool, thanks!
Yeah I'm waiting on tsho's volume to pick back up. But if it runs 100% or so like if they release the next product info or whatever. Than I might sell 25% and hope for a pull back.
Dang, that's awesome! I was hoping we would get some news today. Oh well maybe later this week. They're probably crunching our g-spout #'s
Your right it is 20% of the trade but It's 2% of your total portfolio. If your portfolio consists of 60,000 and you only trade with 6k of it (10%) than your 20% loss would be 2% of your entire portfolio. Not that I have 60k in my acct tho. I actually found this on line and thought it was a good example of money managment. I've never used stops before cause I'm usually long on a trade. But I'm thinking about swing trading 25% of my position on TSHO.
Look out Mike Wadham here comes fossil2! LOL OK so its not on fox but at least it's an at home video demonstrating that the products works!
Cooking with the G-Spout!
Wait not walmart, walgreens. But I'm sure walmart has them too.
Cool article! I've seen those isles at Wal-Mart before. It takes discipline not to buy some of those gadgets. Like the power washer that attaches to your garden hose! lol I could see TSHO's products fitting in there quite nicely.
Taking the emotion out of trading. What does this mean? When a trade goes against you its best to minimize losses. Maintain your composure. A lot of traders, when they loose money, start trading like a drunk high on revenge trying to make the money they lost back. This emotion is very simular to gambling. If a trade is not going your way exit the position ( see stop losses from the previous post ) re-evaluate the market and look for a new re-entery point or find a new trade but be sure to maintain your composiour.
Taking the emotion out of trading dosn't only apply to losses but to gains as well. When your stock is rallying and your feeling on top of the world. Your mind is clouded with the high of indestructibility. The next time you feel this emotion take note of it and try to control it. If you ever watch a professional poker tournament on TV you will see a player take down an extreamly large pot and rake the chips in there direction with not even so much as a smile. There are the occasional emotional blow ups but keeping your composure ultimatly leads to future sucess.
STOP LOSS ORDERS: HOW SHOULD THEY BE SET?
One of the most difficult arts in swing trading is setting the stop loss order. Put the stop loss too close to your entry price and you are liable to exit the trade due to random market fluctuations. Place it too far away, however, and if you are wrong on the trade, then a small loss could turn into a painfully large one.
A stop loss is an order placed with your broker that will automatically close your trade when the stock you are trading reaches a predetermined price. When the stop level is reached, your stop becomes a market order and the shares you hold are liquidated. Most brokers will allow two types of stops – "good until cancelled" (GTC) and "good for the day." (Please note that, in practice, many "good until cancelled" stops will need to be reinstated at the beginning of each new trading month. This of course will depend upon which broker you use.)
Although most traders advocate placing stops, it is worth noting that this practice has its skeptics. Long-term, fundamentally oriented investors will tell you that when a stock goes lower, it doesn't necessarily mean you should sell. In fact, if the fundamental story that motivated the purchase remains intact, it might actually signal a buying opportunity instead. Critics of stops will point out several disadvantages of the stop loss order. By placing the stop you are guaranteeing that, should your trade move in the wrong direction, you will end up selling at lower prices, not higher. If you are unsure about the position, then why not just bite the bullet and sell instead of waiting for a decline to take you out of the trade?
The skeptics will also argue that in setting stops you are vulnerable to their being "run." Most traders have probably had the experience of setting a stop loss, seeing the stock price retreat to that level, or just below, and then go zooming into the stratosphere. What might have been a profitable trade instead turns into a loss. Given that stop loss orders tend to congregate at key points, when one stop is touched, others are set off (like dominos). Because the stop becomes a market order when hit, you also may be forced to exit your trade at a lower price than your stop was set at. That is particularly true with thinly trading stocks.
So, with all of these disadvantages in mind, why would traders ever want to set stops at all? Well, almost all trading experts will tell you that stop losses are an important part of trading discipline, as they can prevent a small loss from becoming a disastrously large one. What's more, by diligently setting stop losses whenever you enter a trade, you end up making this important decision at the point in time when you are most objective about what is really happening with the stock.
During instances when I cannot monitor an open trading position, I will also always make sure to set a stop. That is certainly true if I travel and am away from the market for more than a day. But it is also the case intra-day when I can't watch an open position even for a few hours in real time. Unexpected news can come out of the blue and dramatically affect a stock's price. There is also an important saying I try to practice -- "The first loss is the best loss." In other words, when a position is going against you, it is best to cut your losses immediately. Again, if you set your stop loss when you enter a position, then that is when you are most objective. By doing so, you save yourself the emotional difficulty of deciding when to "cry uncle" if the stock is going against you.
A key question for swing traders is exactly where to place a stop loss. In other words, how far should you place the stop below your purchase price? Many traders will tell you to set a predetermined "maximum acceptable loss" amount based on your personal account rather than technical analysis of the stock in question. One line of thinking says that you should not lose more than -2% of your equity on any one trade. If you have $60,000 in stock market capital, then that would mean the maximum loss you would accept on any one trade is $1,200. If you risked $6,000 by buying 600 shares of a $10 stock, then you would limit your risk to no more than $1,200. In that case you would set your stop loss at $8 and would have $4,800 left if you exited the position at the maximum loss allowed.
Another method of setting stop losses is to predetermine an arbitrary percentage of your purchase price you are willing to lose. One well-known figure -- suggested by William O'Neil, publisher of Investor's Business Daily -- states that you should never lose more than -8% of your position on any given trade. In the case of the above example, you would set your stop loss at $9.20, or 8% below $10. For swing trading, I have found that -8% losses are unacceptably high. As such, almost all recent trades I've suggested in my Swing Trader newsletter have stop losses between approximately 4 and 6%.
Although predetermined amounts are useful for preventing unacceptably large drawdowns in your account balance, they unfortunately have nothing to do with the stock's behavior itself. The market doesn't know at what price you bought the stock or what your overall account balance is, nor does it care. As such, stop losses that are set as arbitrary amounts leave traders vulnerable to being kicked out of a position for no reason other than normal market volatility.
What then is the answer to how to set stop losses? My answer is that very careful technical analysis of both the hourly and daily charts are needed to determine the level at which a trade is not acting "as it should" if it is going to be profitable. I will develop this thought in detail next week.
COMBINING THE DAILY AND HOURLY CHARTS IN SETTING THE STOP LOSS
One of the most difficult arts in swing trading is setting the stop loss order. Put the stop loss too close to your entry point and you are liable to exit the trade because of random fluctuations. Place it too far away, however, and if you are wrong on the trade, then a small loss could turn into a painfully large one.
What then is an appropriate method? I believe stop losses should be set by combining analysis of both the daily and the hourly chart. The daily chart will typically reveal the stock's Intermediate trend -- the trend lasting one month or more. The hourly chart, on the other hand, will show the Minor trend -- the trend lasting five to fifteen days and sometimes longer. While it can be tempting to use only the daily chart when setting the stop loss, the swing trader should carefully look at the hourly chart for short-term trendlines, support, resistance and indicator information. A final decision should be made by integrating information from both timeframes.
An examination of the hourly chart gives me information not clearly available on the daily. For starters, I can now observe that both hourly MACD and CCI are demonstrating bearish divergence -- a clear warning that the stock is losing steam. Further the stock has been rallying, but volume has been declining. That represents bearish volume divergence and is yet another signal that buyers are not eager to pay higher prices as the stock rallies.
In setting stop losses, it's essential to combining the daily and hourly chart messages. If you have not been following this practice in your swing trading, then now may be the time to start.
Market Risk and Investment Strategy
Any investment process must recognize the importance of risk. The best way to
appreciate the concept of risk is to compare it to the idea of probability. What is the
probability of making money? Or … losing money? If the probability is low, risk is high.
On the other hand, if the probability of making money is high, risk is low. Investors should
invest more money when risk is low because the probability of making money is high. This
is the time to be aggressive. On the other hand, when the risk is high, the odds of making
money are low. When the odds of making money on a specific asset are low, sell the asset.
Become defensive. Raise cash if you do not know what to do. Risk shapes a good
investment strategy.
As the environment changes, risk changes. In our game of investing, the other
players are the investors. The board, or table, is the market. Poker players know the
probability of winning changes as the game evolves. Realize the investment game is
dynamic, like poker or any other game of strategy. As the game is played, the odds change.
For instance, the odds of winning in team sports change depending on shifts in morale,
injuries, and how the other team plays.
An in-depth knowledge of the rules of the game helps to determine the risk of the
game and establish the chances of winning with a given set of strategies. Strategy
improves the odds of winning. As the game changes, we continually evaluate how risk has
changed and devise a new strategy. Poker offers a good analogy. Players do not bet the
same amount each time. They begin with a small bet because they do not know how their
hand will develop. They increase their bet only if their hand looks promising. Depending
on what the other players do, they raise their bet only if the odds of winning increase. If
the odds turn against them and the risk of losing becomes high, they fold their hand.
Investing your money offers similar challenges. Like it or not, we all participate
in the investment game. The economy and financial markets is the table upon which the
game is played. Investors continually change the risk/reward profile of each market by
getting new cards, raising their bets or dropping from the game. We need to adapt our
investment strategy and change the size of our bet (investment). Because risk changes
during the game, we change our bet accordingly. Adapting your portfolio to the changing
risk is the only tool under your control to avoid serious losses as in 2000. The major
advantage in lowering the risk, thus lowering the volatility of your portfolio, is to make
your returns more predictable.
When inflation rises, risk increases because the Fed shifts to a restrictive monetary
policy and stocks decline. When inflation declines, the risk in the financial markets is low.
Bond prices start going up, followed by a rising stock market. By looking at economic
indicators (like inflation), investors can assess the direction of risk and develop their
investment strategy.
Setting Realistic Objectives
In the last part of the 1990’s, the stock market rolled ahead accompanied by a redhot
economy and stimulated by excess liquidity from the Federal Reserve System. This
occurred at a time when Mr. Greenspan talked about ‘irrational exuberance’ and the Fed
was injecting liquidity into the banking system at rates between 7% and 15%. The Fed’s
actions ignored the average growth rate in liquidity since 1955 was close to 6%.
The excessive liquidity created a booming economy and a soaring stock market.
The main feature of the market in last part of the 1990’s was an enormous creation of debt.
The belief that 20-25% a year returns in the stock market was normal justified many
accounting irregularities. At that time, day traders used computers to trade online and
make thousands of dollars. Sadly, it was not their skills that made them rich, but a soaring
stock market. Traders believe their profits were generated by their skills. People speculated
with their retirement plans. Just throw the dart at the page of the stock market. It was
impossible to make a mistake. Everything was going up.
During those times, I spoke around the country about setting realistic objectives.
Many investors in the audience just smiled. The smiles of disbelief are hard to forget. My
presentations focused on prudent careful investing. Why should people be prudent and
careful if they can make 20-30% a year with some stocks doubling in a month? After
2000, stock prices suffered tremendous losses of 50-70%. This meant that losses could only
be regained if the remaining capital would double or triple.
If investors make 15% in the 1st year; then make 15% in the 2nd year; then make
15% in the 3rd year; but for some unexpected reasons they lose 15 % in the 4th year, the
return over those 4 years is slightly higher than 6%. All the efforts to make money in those
3 years are totally wiped out by just one loss of 15% in the 4th year. Look at it this way. If
you lose 50% of your money, you have to make 100% to come back and break even. If the
market provides 7-8% a year on average, it will take roughly 9–10 years before you break
even. Thus, the paramount strategy is to protect a portfolio against price drops. Any
decision to buy or sell must be geared to preserve your capital.
After 2000, investors realized some of their mistakes and the need to be prudent
with their money. This issue is important. When we set realistic objectives, we fight two
major emotional extremes: one is greed and one is despair. Around 2002, after a 70%
decline in the market, some people felt despair. Many decided to simply forget about their
investments. Further, they rationalized that investing was either not for them or they would
eventually recover. Instead, the savvy investor targets the golden median between greed
and despair. I call the golden median being realistic.
True but I feel that the higher the price closes and then if news is released either after hours or before open monday. Any shorts that haven't covered will start covering at the current price and they will get burned a little more and help bring the price up more. But yeah news, figues and volume would be nice.
Thanks for checking out the board. I'm glad you liked it. I've been doing alot of reading lately trying to figue this whole investing thing out. Then I found out that Ihub lets free members create forums!
Nice up tick! how bout a strong close and some after hours news!