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why buy at 0005 when it appears 0004 is just around the corner..? but some say it can turn around..first saw this at 0008... amazing, if we could only play the downside.... imo always.eom
let me get this right, this company has a DHS PO for $25 million and its only trading at just over a penny? am i reading that correctly? whats wrong here... ive made several small purchases and at or near the bid. what does that say when the ask is much higher. wont be buying anymore of this one either.. the pps is too unstable and the mm's appear to be grabbing just about any buy order presented to them thats within the bid/ask range posted.. glta
thought i saw 27 mill volume now.. not that it means anything. glta... eom
OT- sort of- the money from the housing market appears to already be entering the stock market. have you seen the dow? eom
dont they need volume to sell into? how do they get volume if they scare people off by showing an unstable pps? these guys can run this up as easily as they can bring it down... it pays to sit on the sidelines....thought i got a deal on a small buy at 0007, but no way im buying any more...
lifegear,
this is what i think people are basing the "sold out" statements on..i dont think the link is live so you may have to cut and paste.
http://cms.stingmiami2006.com/index.php?sc=13
thanks rocket for the opinion,
it seems to me that evaluation really means nothing in this venue. they tend to run, if they run, to where ever the mm's want it to... am i being cynical? sure wish these pennies would trade based on interest and on buyers vs sellers, like the larger cap stocks at least appear to trade..i used to be able to tell with great accuracy where a penny would run to back when that 3 spike format was the norm, but now many charts are painted and the 3 spike norm is no longer. these stocks tend to move now on a "got ya" principal that is managed by the mm's and the people they send out to these boards to encite an irrational exhuberance or a total bummer. glty and to all and all in my opinion.......
so rocketstocks,
what targets have you posted for this one....eom and glta
florida, ?
so if further dilution becomes necessary, would it be done on a descending pps or after the pps has risen? is that the unknown? i just dont see the volume being enough at this pps to warrant any further dilution if thats what is occuring. glta... and all in my opinion...
are you saying that people can sell at 0004? isnt that what the bid price represents?
last friday on other ihub boards, i saw several people posting that 0007s were gone. when i saw that i thought they were possibly implying that the next price we would see printing would be 0008's... silly me, it must have meant 0006 were next...at least today. so often i see people post things and then i look at the actual stock details and say what the heck are they talking about? ..id like to buy more but im so tired of watching my money lose value. everywhere these days..glta but im staying in cash till i see some things turn around in the general penny market..i wonder if the upcoming elections are affecting peoples investment decisions? somethings different this year in the penny market.
is cornell the financer for this stock?eom
Do you or does anyone know the capacity for this event?
OT thanks vz...eom
lifegear OT ?
do you know anything about qbit? saw it being posted on the momo board... wow, what a dive from its high several days ago... and their website is "like really cosmic man". 6 big down days in a row. interesting and scary at the same time. wonder if the hypers sold into their own hype today. some post they were in it at the lows of the day but makes you wonder if they sold in the rise up to the HOD as that part is usually never stated. sure didnt move much for a stock that some say has billions left to sell since the split...some bitter posters on that board..all in my opinion....
ok, i have the basic free service on ihub. all my repsonses have been public. i cant pm with the free service i get on ihub.. do you get a doorbell sound or something like that when someone repsonds?
Life, OT - is that was caused the big spike late last year? Im for anything that levels the playing field... glty
life, let me clarify. in the past i have not received a "cash" dividend on any penny stock that ive owned (to the best of my knowledge), only a stock dividend. i do own stocks in the large cap market though that have cash dividends that i re-invest in the same stock for the compound long term value... and when i say long term i mean years as they are part of my retirement accounts...
life,
ive never had a cash dividend before. at least not on a penny stock...
OT - no,
but the typical (and i stress typical) ruse ive seen with dividends and is you must hold the stock till a certain date to be eligible and then next day(s) the stock falls in pps. so together with the shares and reduced price, you are underwater. i typically see people saying they sold their dividend shares sometimes ( while supposedly still maintaining their bases shares) and i wonder how they do that because i always thought shares were sold in the order they were added to the account. dividend shares would be the last ones added to that account. i would like to see trading occur like it did a few years ago where dividends were rare and momo was the typical gage... all in my opinion...and glta
OT-lifegear, every stock that ive owned that issued a dividend always ended up with a pps less than the pps i bought in and the dividend was hardly enough to cover the loss in value that never recovered... when i called my brokerage to voice my opinion on this subject, they acted like i was the only person who has mentioned the problem of nss and that they would never be involved with such activities because they are illegal... so, someone has to be looking the other way for this kind of activity to continue. the last two years have been exceptionally blatant.glty and all
Hope springs eternal. Go INXR! glta eom
If they just dumped 500 million shares onto the market, why should there be a pulse... didnt the people who pumped this and the people they pumped it for, make their cash? sometimes i think there are people out there who get calls from "special people", people with an agenda, that tell them to pimp a certain stock, "we got some shares to dump for our client" or something like that....of course its all in my opinion, but it sure seems like that...
i noticed this stock on other boards. any explanation for the sudden drop in pps today... trading at .0075?
thanks dragon, maybe people should let the interest in the release of the 211 go and be more excited about product releases...if not only for sanity.... glta... im trying to stay positive... thanks again.. nwsun
to anyone -I have a question. if we saw 500,000,000 million shares added to the AS since the last run, does that mean the company got the funds to keep them going for a period of time (could be there paychecks for all i know) and current shareholders are going to have to wait for the next dilution promotion, based on some event as the release of the pending 211 was used in the last run up, to see any gain in pps value? is that how this works. im just trying to understand what i am married to... is that what all those shares at 0002 before the run to 0008 were for?. can a company play a shorted position? its apparent that mm's and companies can work in tandem. can mm's and the company be the same players? when i see people making posts that are encouraging people to be here for some future event, are they working for the company in some advocacy type relationship to ensure all newly released shares are gobbled up? im just asking curious questions as i do see a relationship often times in many of these penny stocks in my opinion. if the company got the money they needed to do whatever it was they wanted it for, we could be at the is level for quite a while-- yes, no, maybe, if, ?????... can someone enlighten me. because it looks to me that there are people who are given a task. that is to run something up so something like a 500,000,000 share conversion (dump, dilution, whatever once wants to call it) can occur. who decides what the maximum pps will be in a run up? im just trying to understand this game,,, and im asking these questions very politely as i see this as a learning experience... glta
I might buy consider buying some on monday. is 0004 still a possible entry point?
Han, i must say, you thoroughly confuse me. in one breath you say you cut your losses and wish the best to those still holding and then you say you want to buy at 0001? i guess one can still own and cut losses...
I think and thats the same as my opinion, the key to what happened to this stock lies in the accum/dist chart that was removed when someone pointed out the sharply descending line. i thought that was a suspicious action and obviously something somebody(s) didnt want getting in the way...
Who funded that study, Budweiser or Pabst? eom
i hope so, i need a golden play..glta
ive had the same thing happen on another stock (cpco) almost 2 months ago. when i called into buy it, the original person didnt know any reason why it would be on hold, then he went to another person after putting me on hold, and the sale was posted. i wonder whats up with atd? who are they protecting?
think i'll pass. but good luck to you..
why do you that that is? glty...
Is this stock on a special status. tried to buy some thru ameritrade online and said i had to call a broker...
han, OT -
all the dd in the world isnt going to save us from an organized effort to swindle unsuspecting buyers. when i think of how many stocks ive owned that had great futures and pr's and became huge losses in my portfolio, it makes me sick. and im not alone... this is about letting buyers and sellers make the market with real shares, not naked shorts and hidden agendas..all in my opinion. glty
han, i find interesting the cavalier attitude of some who were so big on this stock and how they had such promising info in the past as the stock made its one day spike and then downfall from there. i wonder if they made their bucks and moved on and make an occasional comment to save face and credibility as they are stll big on other stocks they own. i would like to believe not, but reality says differently. i wonder if some people who claim to be longs actually shorted this and then encouraged new money to buy as they sold. its not too far out to wonder that. that is why i would like to see legislation requiring posters on public boards like ihub and rb, require each of us to say if we own the stock, are long or have shorted their position, if they are off shore, are a broker, or an employee or representative of mm's--- minimally. this would even the playing field. in fact im going to pursue this with the sec and see how the rules were changed for the tv pundits. all in my opinion... what i have suggested is similar to what tv pundits must say when they pimp a stock on the money channels... i think it should apply here... brecause quite frankly, im totally disgusted with the ethics i see on these boards. if someone knocked on your door and did the con jobs that we see on these boards, there would be a news story on the local evening news and a request by the police to get a description of the suspects. it would be referred to the bunko squad and people would be prosecuted when caught...glty
kramrer, call your brokerage and ask them if a person can close out thier position for a 0$ loss ( for tax write offs) and see if they will do it and let me know and if they say its possible, im just going on what i was told when i asked last year end for 05 tax season. havent tried for this year as were not at the end of the year.
rheddle, i had a conversation with
a supervisor at the brokerage we are talking about, yesterday. some topics came up like you just noted . the guy just sat their quiet and acted like i was making him aware of something for the 1st time and i was the only person that ever called him about such things. i asked him politley to give me a break and he should be more aware of things in his industry that are strong perception in the publics mind. and that even 60 minutes has done a show on naked short sellers. he said what i was implying is happening is illegal and they operate within the law. the penny market has definitley changed in the last 2 years and not for the benefit of us, the people whose money they seem to be lifting from our wallets. i firmly believe and this is just my opinion, that mm's and or their helpers get on these boards and push stocks that are really targeted to be shorted... i figure i'm now on some list for telling that supervisor that something is terribly wrong with the penny market place... this same brokerage has sold my name to bogus companies, like "investment traders trends" (look them up if you can i vouldnt find anything onthe internet)that would send me a mailer telling me about a hot stock that was going to take off. ive saved the mailings. i know this bogus company got my name from my brokerage because of how it is labeled. my name only shows up that way from this company so it was easy to know where the bogus company got my name. whether the company endorsed selling it or if it was a rogue employee that made the file and sold it, i dont know. glty
dragon, there's lots of penny stocks running these days. i wished i would have jumped on awyb yesterday when it was 08 at the time i thought about it... dang...