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Half a mill in the rear view window.
That's a good point Bucks.
This is literally right on the heals of that agreement, assuming that the agreement was reached not long before the announcement.
Okay, this appears to be just a morsel. We'll see how it plays.
They've basically taken the occasion of things getting started with Host "on the ground" to put out a little bit of juice.
The announcement is just that "we've begun installing our system on a Host property."
Anything to see here?
We'll see.
Where? Link?
Nice eye!
Burn out. Emotions fried.
I think a lot of folks get the feeling that we're either gonna be in purgatory for a while here, or our climb is going to begin soon. But either way, burn out's the thing right at the moment.
That said, it's worth keeping in mind that we were told at the time of the CC that more news would be forthcoming very shortly, which news has not, er... forthingly come yet.
And it's Wednesday. And a few folks around here have claimed that TIVU tends to put out their PR's on Wed's.
Who knows? We might get a surprise bump today or tomorrow.
But for the moment, I think everybody's bracing themselves for a boring few weeks.
Just my thoughts.
Many thanks A1.
Wow, nevermind. lol
I THOUGHT I found some instruction, but really what I found was a smug, self-absorbed, fake-tanned chump explaining to me that I am mistaken in thinking I need to understand the L2.
Think I'm joking?
http://www.ehow.com/video_4984686_use-level-ii-stock-quotes.html
Okay I just found some instruction online, thanks!
Sorry 'bout that. Link fixed.
Can anyone help me understand what this color-coding on the Level 2 at http://pennystockgurus.blogspot.com is all about?
Note: The L2 there is just a little widget on the right hand side some ways down the page.
Good Morning everyone.
I still have that good feeling after yesterday. It's not worth much, and I'm ready to be wrong here. But yesterday was reassuringly stable after that storm we just had. Some have suggested the convertibles are likely near finished. And though I understand the process very little, that seems plausible to me insofar as we just saw some extremely low prices. Maybe the storm has really passed!
We'll see how today goes.
It really is funny how much I've grown to anticipate the morning bell ever since starting to invest.
26 minutes.
Wait, I don't understand. By "doesn't justify," do you mean that the OS is too small for the sort of thing that went on yesterday, and that you're therefore concluding that there are significant convertibles out and about?
Same as it ever was, right Aitrius?
(i.e. same as the other day)
And that's good news, no?
After all, if more aren't being cashed in at these prices, then... Dare we think... No, I won't.
I hope he's right! Let's run this thing into the ground!
=)
Business prospects too strong to worry about that, no? It's all buying opportunity as far as I'm concerned.
**This post contains forward-looking statements that Nic is not accountable for. Also, Nic is untrained, untutored, and about as unlearned in these matters as a fellow could be. Never invest money you're not prepared to lose... like Nic does. That moron.
oops, misread.
Almost half a mill now.
AH! Thanks SD.
(Now I just have to learn how to read/interpret this thing.)
In other news... Hey! We just broke half a million in volume.
Anybody think we'll get over a mill today? I would have doubted it an hour ago. But Looks like a few folks are stocking up.
Might taper off now that we're back up in the .03's though.
I've found today strangely encouraging. I say 'strangely' because I can't give a principle reason for it; I don't understand enough to do so. But things seemed real stable today.
SD, I'm not sure where on that page I'm supposed to find the L2 you're talking about. It looks like just a blog to me.
Thanks SD!
Whoa! What's going on here? Looks like more bites. Smart. Man I wish I had funds right now. Those .02's would be great.
Oh I guess not. Dang. Well that was a waste of 2 of my 15 posts per day.
So do I get L2 with the $8.99/month deal?
Seems like I need to start learning what you guys are doing with that info.
I suppose that's possible. I'd even buy here (.0249) right now if I could though. I'm happy to get any of these pickins down below my entry, which averages around .037
Seems way less volatile today. Perhaps we're seeing the end of the flipper/cc panic.
Bucks seemed awfully sure we have no bottom floor here. I guess I'm okay either way. I'm positioned to kill if this thing takes off, and if it continues to stagnate, well, then, I'll just polish my rifle a bit (hat tip to A1).
I say bottom it out. I don't care. I want this thing under a penny, and then I'm gonna cop like twice the shares I already have.
Of course it will probably recover by the time I have funds. But here's hoping it doesn't.
I say bring it.
YEAH!!! UP .003!!!!!
(good lord I'm so desperate.)
I guess I am unsure why you are telling me that.
But alright.
It's hardly personal D.
Making a joke - out of frustration - about another's optimism.
That's not 'personal' in any untoward sense.
Optimism from A1! Whod'a thunk?
DMO, Do we (any among us) have any idea when to expect the audited 10K (I assume this is some kind of regulatory form the company has to fill out and make known to public)?
If I understood you right, that is really the ONLY way we're gonna know how many convertibles are out there.
But since you posted, someone else has suggested that we "ought" not to be in the dark about this. I.e. That TIVU is not being "black and white" (i.e. plain-dealing) by not having this info out there. Your thoughts?
That's a confusing/frustrating claim. I thought that what everyone in here had been praising TIVUS about was their forthrightness and transparency.
How is that supposed to be reconciled with the claim that they won't put their convertible info in "black and white."
I'm operating at a huge disadvantage here, as I'm only just now beginning to understand what convertibles are. And thus I also don't know what it is 'standard' to expect a company to reveal about them.
Is it shady that we are being forced to 'guess' how many are out there and how they're moving? Or is that standard procedure?
I do not understand.
Atrius and DMO,
Thanks SO much for the informative answers. I'm going to be spending a good portion of the remainder of the day trying to better understand them.
In the mean time...
WHAT THE $&$*@*@%&!!!!!!??????
For the same reason that it's advantageous for you to buy at the lowest possible price.
I think we're supposed to think of it as a sort of "potential" share of stock, wherein it is up to the holder when to "actualize" it. Thus they'd want to do so for the same reason you want to buy at a low price. More shares.
Wait, but then where do I find a reliable source for the "outstanding shares" figure? Because Atrius just said something in the realm of 53,000,000... but my Scottrade stats say 20,000,000. What gives?
Ah, okay. So until the convertibles are done, a dipping PPS is dangerous precisely because it invites more converting. Is that it?
And yet we want the convertibles to convert precisely so that's not an issue any more. I.e. Because if they don't, then each run will get diluted and die out when the convertibles react to the prospect of not seeing a low price anymore. So we're basically wanting them to "just get it over with" now, right?
At these prices, why hasn't EVERYONE converted yet? If I'm at all on the right track, then that's what I can't understand.
So Aitrius quoting that figure meant that he took the fact that the number of shares hadn't changed to be evidence that no conversions have happened in a week. And he takes THAT as evidence that they're (hopefully) subsiding. right?
Aitrius,
Can you help me understand the relevance of the "outstanding shares" figure to the issue of "convertables." I assume that there is some relevance based on you having mentioned the former in a discussion of the latter.
I have tried to figure out what "convertables" are and why they occupy so much of the discussion here, but I'm still quite confused.
As best I can understand it, they are a different kind of stock than what most all of us are holding, but I do not understand the relation, nor the grounds for thinking they will be "finished" soon, nor even what they're supposed to be "finished" doing.
Given all of that uncertainty, it's very hard to tell where the line between optimism and realism is on this issue.
I've gone the Wikipedia route already, but was not able to do much there besides deepen my confusion.
Any help would be appreciated.
I agree. I'm actually hoping it stays this supressed for a while, a month even. I want to add more, but have exhausted the funds for a bit. Couple more weeks and I'm going to increase my position if we're still down in <.05 territory.
Here's to another day of incessant, reload-button-pressing mediocrity tomorrow ladies and gentlemen.
We'll look back and laugh, they say.
I'm looking forward to looking back.
I feel like I have to go with the first option, in order to give both Char and Steve the benefit of the doubt. Otherwise I can only give it to one of them.
No ill intended Char.
(Sigh)
Nice PR.
Now what shall we say? Here are a few options.
- Char misunderstood
- Char's misleading
- Steve misspoke
- Steve's misleading
- There's yet a PR coming 30 minutes before bell.
Par for the course.
Most.... boring... stock... ever.
Sounds like wisdom to me, high or not.
Besides, it's a tad bit late to argue that this was not the right move.
"Always double down on 11."
"I'm just saying not ALWAYS."
"Always."
-Swingers
I'm high on it too man.
But it is sure as heck a mind-bender for me. The sort of potential people are talking about here would - given my position - alter my life in an unthinkable way.
And I mean unthinkable literally. I've never been able to realistically imagine myself having attained the sort of thing we're talking about here.
So despite the enjoyment of the imagining process, it's also tinged with fear of letdown.