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BTW, Mr. 0, you have lost your touch, you are getting old, and you are lacking knowledge...your comments are non-sensical. You need to spend some more time with the fish...that way, you need to be quiet.
Gents: Come'on. The fact that they may wait to file their response until Aug. 25th. is just plain lack of tenacity. The fact that they believe that this is OK to go on for a year or more is just an indication that they don't care about the share price or loyal shareholders. They should be calling NOK outside NOW. 10 years...of Ericy and now they look at NOK as no big deal. They haven't said "BOO" since NOK pounded them. I am glad all you believe that you heard some sort of resolve in HG statement, but it doesn't mean jack until the money hits the bank account...we all learned that just a short time ago. They got "no juice" because they don't care. They make plenty of money and pulled plenty of profit from their F4s. Unbelievable!?!? Other than that little tirade...I am glad to see they had a good quarter, and the revenue stream is stabilizing and growing. But man, I am ready for them to kick the pee out of NOK. It's time....
mschere...don't care how you feel about me. All the good information and good vibrations you provide regarding IDCC doesn't really mean much when their "best and biggest" ally will not pay the bill. That sucks in my opinion. You call me long and stupid...please tell me when we will see $25 again. I cannot believe you are not po'd about this. I hope you are genuine, because if you are, I give you alot of credit...and you are certainly a much better person than I will ever be. You must have some other insight, that gives you the faith to keep on believing in this company...because I am at the end. BTW, I am insignificant...I never pretended to be anything more.
Loch, DWS, L2V and all the others...I can't wait to see you guys take advantage of this buying opportunity tomorrow and for the next several months...I mean, won't it be the last time we see the share price in the teens. With all the buying tomorrow we should be over $20 in no time. Let me know how you feel when the F4s come out. I'm waiting for the day when you guys can scream at me that "you told me so"...believe it or not I'll be richer when that days comes.
Loch...are you somehow seeing a different reality than I am?? I haven't said "I told you so to anyone," although you deserve it. Don't blame it on Nokia or me, it was IDCC all the way.
Art...that really doesn't hurt my feelings...in fact you could probably kick the snot out of me and I wouldn't really care. Don't be a po'd at me. I didn't screw this up.
Looking forward to Infineon and all the other licensees coming on board in 2010 after arbitration, lawsuit and settlement for pennies on the dollar.
IDCC can't close a deal. Another year at least or perhaps 10 like Ericy.
ZIPLOC...don't count on a CC...this company has been one huge disappointment after another...they never, ever support their share price...They don't care. Upper management are all multi-millionaires...if they were to leave IDCC tomorrow they wouldn't have to work...so please tell me why they would care to waste their time to talk about it. There pockets and bank accounts are bursting at the seams.
Some Shills are here and I hope the friends of management are there to support the share price for the rest of the week....I think the "watershed" event just occurred...Nokia pee'd all over us. I wonder when it is all said and done will Nokia be a company of "integrity" also.
Gents: If NOK has made this payment to IDCC, I think we would have seen it in the share price. With the rumor flying around that it might have happened, I am pretty sure if it has, then the volume would be much greater and the share price would have at least appreciated to the mid 27 level (at least).
I am not seeing any evidence in the action on this stock. Hasn't happened yet.
Hey bulldozer, you just said that Tucker promised to hold your coat at the Houston 100...I don't think Tucker is going to be holding your coat...He might be holding your hearing aid and cane, because by the time this baby reaches a 100, we all may be 100. Just had to throw that in...IDCC--just a whole lotta "no progress".
I wonder why the Nokia thing could be taking so long...did Nokia say...yeah, yeah, sure will talk to you after the trial with Ericy, he he he. Did IDCC say, uh OK. Over 120 days to do what??? This should have been lined up and ready to go. Oh and the licensees just keep on signing up. I can't keep up with the names....are those IDCC representatives still in the air, heading toward their destinations? Oh, wait, its the indemnifier?? I think the indemnifier is the same guy from the Harry Potter books, you know, "He who must not be named"
Loch...I guess those that don't ask question, never get any answers...and, actually, those that even ask questions, don't get any answers either. So be it...nuff said. I truly wish you the best, and great fortune, specifically with IDCC.
Mschere/lochnroll...I could care less about the insider sales...that is not the issue. The issue is the shareprice while being up 150 percent since last year is only temporary, if there is an issue with NOK/SAM. It is the business fundamentals...if they can't collect money's due in full, that is a huge business problem. If NOK/SAM balk what then?
What would be the share price today if IDCC/Ericy settled for 150 million? and build upon that if NOK/SAM have paid already? and if Ericy signed for 3G? All of it builds upon one another?
None of the above has happened? Hence the shareprice is still just temporary? It's not the shareprice, it's the business!!
I am awaiting your thunder.
Lochnroll...believe it or not I am a long term shareholder...I would like to see some confirmation that they are achieving some business objectives...signing licensing deals is one thing, collecting is another. NOK/SAM is the key, now...I am just wondering what next? Recent history: Lost to Samsung in arbitration, Ericy settles after 10 years for less than 60 million (when even the most conservative of posters was expecting at least 150 million) because of some mandate, NOK/SAM haven't paid yet, there is an indemnifier, Ericy has "integrity" but there is no 3G license after a paltry settlement.
We know where the shareprice is...what about the business??? You have to expect these questions to be asked?? Do you know something that the rest of us don't?
Don't get angry with us for asking some questions or that we never seem to get the answers. Looking forward to your angry retort.
VTEM...I can identify with your post. I can give a hoot about the whole options discussion. I want results...and there is always a "oh, wait, we are not there yet, there is just one teency, weency little barrier, and then the hockey stick cometh"...over 10 years for Ericy and they settle for piddly because of a mandate, now we here about an indemnifier, and still no real deals. Oh yeah, guess what, once NOK settles we will be all set...you know the watershed event...oh wait, wasn't that the Ericy settlement.
IMO:Stock price is heating up...I am not saying there is going to be a blast off...it is noticeably on its way up and someone is taking their time buying. I wonder where all the buying came from today w/800K+ shares???? hmmmm
Bulldozer...another thought...don't you get the impression that there is alot of stuff hanging in the air with IDCC...and for some reason it never settles. I believe that there are a lot of items that are resolved, like NOK and SAM, and many other licensees, but they are deliberately being held back/managed in some fashion.
Did you catch teecee's post the other day about mgmt doing their insider sells to, in a way, manage/control the stock price. I am sure teecee meant it half kidding, but it makes sense.
IDCC is sandbagging, with even more than we can fathom...why??
Osoesq...thanks for the message...I agree w/you on the weird post thing...we shall see...and hopefully soon.
Bulldozer...nice post, nuff said. It is in IDCC's court...when will they produce?
OT: Ellismd...you read my message from last night about the sandbagging comment and how I thought that the NOK deal was done...why do think that post was deleted by the thought police???
Revlis...if this prognostication is as good as your Sharp vision...then I am with you. Best to you.
Hey Art...my apologies for attempting to ground some expectations into some sense of REALITY. My logic is thus: don't talk about revenue from NOK unless it is a done deal, as in it is "signed"...if it is a done deal then announce it formally.
mshere...I just want this to be real and done. I believe it is misleading to talk like this when the agreement(money) could be a year away. The exurberance on this board is based on HG statements, and hence several individuals believe the NOK deal is done and will be announced at the latest on July 15th. I HOPE SO!!! But if it isn't, then HG should keep his mouth shut. Talking about revenues that are not finalized in writing is wrong, especially from IDCC management.
Gents: This HG interview can only be viewed as "pump" or irresponsible until they back it up with something real. Please don't get over-exuberant over this article. I want the day to come soon also, and lets hope HG is letting us know that it is coming. If it does not come on 7/31 or before...I would consider his statements as pure "pump". If there is nothing signed to ensure that this figure is real, then he shouldn't be talking about it, at all. Remember, IDCC only announces when the money is in the bank. What is HG doing???
Is no one po'd about the "days" left for resolution of NOK...so if we knew it was going to take till 4th Q to resolve (minimum of 180+ days, which in normal speak is 6 months, 2 quarters, 1/2 year, why settle Ericy @ 60 days before trial for pennies on the dollar??? Was it for Rimm, Sharp or some japanese no-name?
Hey Sail...my feeling is that it is now closer than it was before. How is that for a Yogi-ism. In any case, IMO, I am thinking before the end of June...yeah, my crystal ball isn't working well either...but...
OT: dws...have you ever ran a marathon...I haven't...I run though...I hear the 18th mile is the approximate distance that runners can hit the wall. Just wondering what your experience is with running. In regards to IDCC...I know people get pissed when I post about the "days" things, but I still don't get the logic of when they settled with Ericy.
Rayfer...I was thinking the same thing...sometimes it is just amazing to see the difference in personality.
Hey Sail...come on man...don't get all p o 'd at me. Within that statement he mentioned "days" and not weeks, not months, not years, and not decades...a specific number of days...when I think of days I think of 90 at the most...then you start talking months, quarters. "Not a terribly long period of time"...come on....this shit should have been lined up and ready to go. They settled for shit w/Ericy two months before trial for what reason???? No Ericy 3G, no Nokia money, no samsung money. Mandated to settle for what? Indemnified by who? Why settle in the middle of March? I don't see any difference between settling in March or right before trial in May. Oh, thats right, they settled to make some 1st Q numbers look better
sjratty...actually their projected NOK/SAM numbers are all over the Annual Report, also. If they only wanted the settlement to go over better, then I think they would have let those numbers drop from sight and never be heard again. But guess what, they even published in big, bold fashion. So...what's the hold up you ask???
The point being: for a relatively conservative management team who never state anything in public unless it is a sure thing...why would "days" come out...instead of months. If it was going to take three months, why not just say "months".
Likewise if we are expecting that management would never state the dollar amount for Nokia/Samsung publically, unless they were really, really sure about it...I think we are kidding ourselves.
If Nok was wrapped up, it would have been a matter of days...as in less than 30 days....not over 3 months. "Days" was very misleading.
"Horsetrading"-- I don't understand the need for negotiations after it has been agreed upon and stated what they owe us from an approximate standpoint (give or take a few million). If they don't like our 3G rates then just pay us what you owe us and we'll be on our way. Nokia will come back...walk away IDCC-- with the dollars.
A matter of "days"....now that was misleading. Days...my ass.
Teecee...I don't even believe that it is consistently one person posting under GeJim's ID. He tends to come off as a bit schizophrenic over a period of days. Maybe his CFO gets on an posts every once in a while...who knows...but you are correct...over a period of time he has lost credibility specifically in regards to IDCC as a stock.
Alley...it was quite noticeable when you are gone. You need to keep posting to keep the positive outlook going on this board. Your obstention from posting your views (mainly TA) have let other less productive subjects dominate the board. Even though you had to leave because of the clutter, your leaving also perpetuated a lot of the clutter, because you weren't here to stem the tide. Not blaming you at all....it is just my observation.
Days?!? The simple fact that "days" was stated and we are now
3 months later, leads to me to believe that we were mislead...or we would have heard something by now...positive or negative. And no, I don't have options of any kind.
Revlis...I know that TC/FM project the 3Q money and that they don't expect arbitration. But my point regarding the shareprice is that until that point in time and mschere's projected numbers become reality, why would we go anywhere above $25-$27 range??? There will be no reason for shorts to cover and no reason for additional coverage. If everybody is waiting to see if IDCC actually gets paid, we should be at a standstill. That is why I stated "share price go no where"
It is a pisser about how you were right about the sharp renewel before the ASM and we saw a momentary blip, but no lasting share price benefit.
Revlis...I agree...it is amazing to see the way in which KOP does not leak.
I just got involved with the board banter in relation to when the NOK/SAM things will be settled.
I hope when and if they do announce the payments have been made that we do shake the shackles that have been put on the shareprice.
I just think we have a longer time to wait. Mickey's rumor will come true...it is just the question of when??