Thank you Greenback

All it will take is a settlement with META and the stock soars. You don't continue talks for a second day unless there is a serious settlement discussion.

Do you have access to these documents.

I will say this about a lawsuit with Apple. They could pay $10billion and it would not be material to the financial statements. They have $400 billion a year in revenues and profits of $100 billion a year. The company has unlimited funds to fight VPLM. However, at some point it is better to settle that spend money fighting and then settle later.

If you look at their 10K it indicates they settle several lawsuits in 2021 but nothing is material to the financial statements. This is a bigger suit than those companies but it shows Apple is willing to settle. It would actually be a great scenario if Apple just bought the company and controlled the patents themselves.

$102 billion for Apple alone

I was wondering what the potential damages were. I assume that would be with treble damages. But I haven’t read the document. Add in the others and it would likely be $200 billion. I would settle tomorrow for $10 billion.

Netlist just was awarded $300 million from Samsung

The patent infringement lawsuit will likely have an impact on VPLM. I would bet that our share price reacts to their award. Similar suit. The difference is I am betting our suit never goes to trial.

However, an award in that suit will increase the odds of a settlement by the companies with VPLM. Next week should be a good week.

So let’s read this carefully. There was a joint motion to delay. Made in agreement by the plaintiff and the defendant. Then the Defendant today said they didn’t want the stay and the judge agreed the stay was not required and Moot. So the judge did not find in anyone’s favor. He just agreed the stay is not required.

That decision seems to be neutral to me.

This company will be fine.

The July trial is likely only affected if the Alice in California is settled prior to the trial date. Hopefully it is settled in VPLM's favor. I have not read the America Invents Act. Sounds like that Act, Thanks Obama, makes it more difficult to defend your patents. In California the courts are more likely to find in the favor of the defendants on the Alice. But, I think it is likely that the company has other ways to approach this even if the Alice is not in our favor. Let's hope they can get this settled this year. The other parties throw a lot of work towards the company related to the trial. It is obvious that we they are just trying to stall as long as possible an the VPLM manpower is limited.

But these guys know the impact of a loss and will settle just before a trial. Let's hope we get a resolution in June.

The downward movement might have seen capitulation.

There is a big block sold of 800,000+ shares at $.032 as a low. Now it's heading up. Hopefully the seller has gotten rid of all the shares they were wanting to sell and the price can start moving higher again.

This downward slide could be due to the company raising cash. If they sold shares to raise say $500,000 the buyers could have been unloading some of their shares prior to buying the new shares. Those buyers are not in the mix to buy at market prices. But the company is not selling that many shares so any weakness will end soon.

The trial is not far away. As it gets closer we are going to see a higher share price. A settlement moves the stock to $.10 - $0.25 a share minimum. A good settlement could move the share price even higher. A trial with a win sends the stock to $.25 - $0.50 minimum. A delay keeps the shares near the current level. A loss is the only thing moving the share price lower. I would assume the odds of a loss in court are low. Neither party wants to hold a trial. I would put the odds of a settlement at 70%, a delay in the trial at 20%, A win at 5% and a loss at 5%. The odds of a win at trial are low because the defendants will not go to trial if they believe they are going to lose. That would be the worst case scenario for those companies.

The current share price is getting to a gift level. We are looking at only a little more than 3 months to the trial. It is getting close to crunch time.

Sort of exciting if you ask me. I have enough shares to make a real impact on my future. I am sure other are the same. Praying for good news soon. I would love that surprise Deerballs talks about to happen.

I have no clue where this suit ends.

But, I think VPLM should likely win and have a massive settlement based on the patents being infringed. We all know the justice system is not always fair. Many times it depends on the judges and the jury. Are they fair and does one party have so many resources that they can either end it by making the suit too expensive for the other party to continue the pursuit of justice. I think we are fortunate that the case ended up under judge Albright. From everything I have read he is a no nonsense judge that forces the case forward. If this was in another court the defendants could get the trial pushed back years forcing this tiny company to go under. The best course of action for the big companies would have been to buy VPLM at the beginning but they thought they could get away with the infringement. They may get away with it still, but it looks like VPLM is going to get their day in court and that likely scares the hell out of these companies.

The trial is still set for July. We are now entering April and as the trial date gets closer the pressure on the defendants will grow. I guess based on comments the discovery is nearly complete and the 2 sides should know how strong of a case VPLM has based on that discovery. The big companies know they infringed. They are just looking for a way to limit their exposure. But the longer this drags on the higher the potential jury award will grow. It would likely end with treble damages as they were made aware of the infringement many years ago.

Let's hope there is a fair settlement prior to the trial and if this goes to trial let us hope that Judge Albright help the jury understand the situation and the jury is not afraid to award the damages that are appropriate. If you are on a jury it is hard to award a company billions of dollars. Those numbers are massive. But, on the other hand, jurors like to punish big companies for their wrong doing.

There is only 3 1/2 months to the trial. The companies are throwing out ways to move the trial back but they don't seem to have worked. Now the judge and the partie3s involved will likely be meeting behind the scenes in settlement discussions. An announcement could be reached any day. But one thing is sure, if there is a settlement it will be a good one for VPLM. I don't see these guys settling for a fraction of the true value. They have been fighting for more many years. You don't get this close and then go away cheap.

I would imagine that the share price will trend upward over the next several months. If they settle it will provide the funds needed to proceed with all the other fights coming in years ahead. The share price will rise to at least $.25 and likely more. I hope they can wrap it up early.

That sounds like a good surprise

I can only think of one reason someone would be gathering shares. They are attempting to buy the company.

Would love you guys to say more

Can you tell us what you are hearing about April? Are you expecting a development in the trial? A settlement? A buyout? Specifics would be helpful. Several people are saying April is going to bring a surprise but I have no idea what the event is that is anticipated.

I am hoping this is an accurate statement. Would be nice to see a price in the teens or higher. A move to $.25 - $50 and it gets me in a much better position for my retirement.

What is the next potential catalyst?

I had assumed the trial was the next catalyst. I know that VPLM is attempting to get the judge to change his decision from the marksman trial. If he does I assume we get that news. But if not that news or an actual settlement, I would assume we are waiting until June or July to see a rally. But I would assume as the trial gets close the share price will move higher on anticipation of a settlement or a positive outcome at the trial. 4 months to the trial date. That is not long compared to the time most here have waited.

It won't be at this price very long.

My guess is within a few weeks the share price will begin to increase. There is a lot f interest in this company. I talked to Rich for the first time recently. He didn't seem tired of the fight. I specifically discussed Judge Albright and he indicated it was unlikely the trial would be delayed further.

Based on that discussion and others it sounds to me like it is very likely a settlement will be reached prior to the trial. Of course that can happen the day of the trial. Personally I doubt it goes that long. I don't see Verizon and T-Mobile wanting to hope for a settlement the day of the trial. That could end badly for them as no settlement means they are forced to have a trial and be found guilty with huge settlements.

I am not flush with shares. i would love to have more but I have enough that it only takes $,50 - $1 to make me happy. No promises from anyone but the downside risk vs reward is massive. I know they are going to the judge to get the last decision changed. I don't believe it ends completely in VPLMs favor but will be a win when they get the judge to change his decision.

The last thing is raising the cash to get through July. That should not take a lot. If they can settle prior to the trial the company will be flush with cash and be able to take the other suits to the end. It will also put pressure on the others to settle. This isn't likely to be a move from $.05 to $2 in one day but every settlement moves it higher. Hopefully a move to $.50 to a dollar with the settlement.

WTF is happening to the stock.

Is there a reason for the drop of down another 9% today. There is no news and maybe that is the issue. Until they get close to a deal the share price may struggle. I have the shares I wanted and I guess that will need to do. I will now just sit back and wait for something positive to happen.

The conference is likely a non event. The parties are forced to attend but there is nothing to indicate a resolution will be reached. I believe the judge meets with the parties ahead of the conference. The best outcome is if the facts have been reviewed by the judge and he can tell META or AMZN or the others that based on the facts it appears they will lose when they go to trial. That it would be in their best interest to settle prior to the trial.

If META goes into the conference knowing that the facts are leaning in VPLM's favor there would be a high likelihood that a settlement could be reached. But as many already know it is unlikely a settlement is reached by AMZN until the trial is close. My guess is June at the earliest. META seems to be at an earlier stage. I don't understand the reason for a settlement conference now. Maybe META and the judge feel strongly that their case is weak and META wants to have the conference. That would be the best case scenario. If META wants to settle and the 2 parties are forced to negotiate in a room for the entire day there could be some real progress made.

As someone said earlier if META or one of the others bought the company and the patents that go with it they could get an advantage on their competition. Let's hope someone at one of these companies determines the patents are defendable and decides they want to buy the patents soon. I have no expectations of $5 or $10 a share. I would be fine with $.05 to $2 a share. Someone buys at that price and I would be thrilled.

A purchase tomorrow would be fine with me.

I read up on settlement conferences last night

A settlement conference doesn't mean a lot. It is obviously nice to make the 2 parties sit down and hopefully the the judge handling the conference help push the parties to agreement. Having everyone in the room for the day is useful if they come ready to negotiate. But something tells me META will bring a team of lawyers to refute everything and at the end of the day nothing will be decided. I hope the heck i am wrong. Best thing that could happen is someone to settle.

Is there a settlement conference with judge Albright prior to the trial? You would think this would be a perfect time to hold a settlement conference. Have Judge Albright in attendance for a lest part of it so he could offer his thoughts and basically threaten both sides saying if we go to trial and AMZN is found guilty he will award treble damages at the highest amount. This should have been settled a long time ago. AMZN felt they could push the little guy around.

Thank you

When will we get more news

The last news was on Jan 30th. Nothing has happened since that time. There was a Markman hearing but nothing was published. Likely because the company is attempting to get the judge to change his opinion on the one item AMZN won. Are there any hearings or comments that are expected in the near future?

I have a friend that is a lawyer that I just talked to about VIOP.

He is going to look at the docket information and give me his opinions. He is not a patent attorney but I trust his opinion. If I get any relevant information I will pass it along.

After I buy or sell LOL

Deer, Not saying that the end won't be good.

I still think it will do very well. I think it is likely that settle for a decent amount. I just think the more I see what is happening that the settlement won't come in the next month or 2. It seems like the big guys are going to continue to fight. Who knows how long. If they could settle for a few hundred million the big boys would settle. the problem is that the settlement will be in the billions for each company. That will be a material event for all the companies.

As such it seems they are going to draw this out as long as possible. They will continue to delay and look for reasons to dismiss. the judge will likely find against all of them. I hope the trial actually happens in July. something tells me that in May or June there will be a request to postpone by AMZN. No idea what the reason will be but I am betting they know the reason they will request a delay to push it back to late in the year or even 2024. they are waiting until the end so the judge has to delay the trial as long as possible. Hopefully Judge Albright says no. Make no mistake. AMZN has unlimited funds and our only hope is that judge Albright forces this to happen. I actually think he will force it to happen. but I am betting it gets pushed at least until Sept and maybe later. Trust me I hope I am wrong.

But we all know that after this is done the company will not get the funds. AMZN will appeal to another court. I don't know how that process will work. I am sure that the appeal will likely take a long period of time as well. My real hope is that the award at trial happens and that the award to VPLM is treble damages and tens of billions. That is likely the best chance that AMZN and the others would settle for a % of the amount. If AMZN loses and it is treble damages at $10B or more the odds are both parties would be willing to end the suit for a settlement of $3-5B. I think VPLM shareholders would be happy with that and AMZN would not want to see the award get worse over time.

The best thing would be award VPLM the money and force AMZN to change its source code as to not violate the patent. If the court force this it would force AMZN to settle immediately.

As for VPLM sucking recently. I am talking the share price is falling back. I look forward to a reversal but I am not sure what cause that to happen. The positive is that the filing of the sale normally signals they are done selling stock. So maybe it ends downward pressure on the stock. If Emil and his wife were selling up to 17M shares in the second half of February it explains a lot of the weakness. If he is done selling the shares on the ask should begin to lessen and maybe buyers can force the share price higher again.

My fear is that people see Emil sold shares and fear this indicates thing are not going as well as hoped and sell some shares. I know it is a small number in the grand scheme of things. But I will tell you I have seen sales of stock by CFO and CEOs in prior investments that we blew off later to realize it should have been looked at as a sign.

I don't see that as a problem right now. People need money to live and maybe they have a need for some cash. Hope that is the situation here. . .

The filing looks like she sold 17 million shares to me for almost $500,000. That is not a small sale.

I believe good will happen but right now this stock is sucking.

They need to get something to start supporting the stock. There is nothing on the docket for the near future. Maybe it comes soon but I think until something is released weakness is likely in the cards. I hope I am wrong but I wanted to flip some of this investment for a short term trade and get it back in. I hate selling at a loss but I may need to do that.

Is there any reason for investors to buy now? The trial is not until July and it seems that it is now unlikely that a settlement is going to happen until closer to that date. So I am forced to sell at a loss. I was hoping to sell closer to $.20 on continued buying. Had the judge sided with the company at the Markman hearing the shares may have continued moving higher. Maybe the company will be successful in changing the judges decision. Not sure what their argument will be.

But without some sort of catalyst to move this stock it seems to be stuck in the mud and sinking daily. Something needs to change for this trend to change. It could move to $.02 based on the current trend. Again I hope I am wrong.

Is this Markman hearing one of ours?


https://www.txwd.uscourts.gov/judges-information/judges-calendars/?#/waco/alan-albright/2023-03-28-to-2023-04-28/

Tuesday, March 28, 2023, Waco District Courtroom #1

9:30 AM MARKMAN HEARING

WA:22-CV-00259
35:271 PATENT INFRINGEMENT
Marble VOIP Partners LLCPlaintiff
ATTY: Joseph M. Abraham
(737) 234-0201
ATTY: Christopher J. Belter RET
(716) 566-5400
ATTY: Michael Barresi RET
(716) 566-5400
ATTY: Michael A. Siem RET
(646) 292-8762
Versus
Mitel (Delaware), Inc.Defendant
ATTY: David M. Hoffman RET
(512) 226-8154
ATTY: Timothy W. Riffe RET
202-783-5070
ATTY: Brian J. Livedalen RET
(202) 783-5070
Mitel Networks, Inc.Defendant
ATTY: Timothy W. Riffe RET
202-783-5070
ATTY: Brian J. Livedalen RET
(202) 783-5070
ATTY: David M. Hoffman RET
(512) 226-8154
Mitel U.S. Holdings, Inc.Defendant
ATTY: Brian J. Livedalen RET
(202) 783-5070
ATTY: David M. Hoffman RET
(512) 226-8154
ATTY: Timothy W. Riffe RET
202-783-5070
RingCentral, Inc.Defendant
ATTY: David S. Bloch RET
(415) 590-5110
ATTY: L. Scott Oliver RET
(650) 328-8500
ATTY: Samuel C. Means RET
(312) 456-8400
ATTY: Dwayne L. Mason
713-374-3601
ATTY: Robert A. Hill RET
(602) 445-8412
Thursday, March 30, 2023, Waco District Courtroom #1

9:00 AM FINAL PRETRIAL CONFERENCE - IN PERSON

WA:21-CV-00802
28:1331 Fed. Question: Railway Labor Act
Trenton CockrellPlaintiff
ATTY: Steven L. Groves RET
(314) 696-2300
ATTY: Jeffrey N. Todd
832-243-4953
ATTY: Clint E. McGuire RET
(281) 286-9100
ATTY: Stephanie A. Black RET
(314) 696-2300
Versus
BNSF Railway CompanyDefendant
ATTY: Victoria Lynn Rhodes
(817) 918-2304
ATTY: Susan J. Travis
817-918-2300

Based on past how long to get a decision on the delay?

I assume this is something has happened quite often. How long does it typically take the judge to rule on the request to delay?

What has happened in the samsung case?

VPLM is like every other stock I own.

It falls really fast and the move up is always slow. I would love a quick settlement to move everything forward. One settlement and the company has the funds to see everything through to the end and the other defendants will be under great pressure to settle as well. I am sure that they all hope to end VPLM prior to getting to trial. At this point I imagine AMZN is considering a settlement to eliminate the option of trial. A loss could result in a huge amount owed to VPLM. A settlement could be for $500M to a few billion. My guess is that AMZN doesn't want to be the first trial and is looking for any reason possible to delay the trial further. Hopefully the judge is ensuring that this doesn't happen.

someone said IR indicated the execs are getting tired of the fight. I am sure they are, but they are nearing the end. Keep fighting until you get what you deserve. If you received the patents you deserve not to have others use your patent. I just want the judge to keep this on schedule. At this point I doubt AMZN has much left in the quiver. The July trial date should remain in July. My biggest question is the source code. Did AMZN deliver the source code requested. If AMZN stalls the delivery of the source code it will require that the trial date is moved to give VPLM the time needed to go through the source code.

Something needs to be done about the court process for patents. There is absolutely no reason this should take 10 years to resolve. And it is not done yet. Even a positive result at trial will be appealed and take additional time. The defendants have too resources to fight against the little guy. But, hopefully the fight is over and Emil and the others can move on with their life and career.

DB Thank you for you comment to me.

i don't have a premium subscription at this time. I may change that at some point but I hope you are right in your thoughts on the future. I continue to believe a settlement will be reached that will reward investors. If true this recent drop is an opportunity for investors.

It has fallen a ton today. Hopefully capitulation

This is a company with nothing to sell so it only trades based on speculation and rumor. Obviously anyone playing this for a short term trade has sold and likely there was a trader that bought in low and sold for a decent profit. Hopefully they sold it all today and are not going to push it lower. Am I mad at this. Hell yes. but I am mad at myself. I listened to people I know thinking that this could actually see a settlement. I bought before the one recent markman hearing the=at didn't have a positive result. Maybe the company will have something positive to say in the near future but right now they are staying completely quiet and that is never a good thing for a share price. A company thins size only runs higher for 2 reasons. 1) rumors move it up thinking that something positive is developing or 2) actual positive developments have happened the fundamentally change the picture. In this case it appears the first situation is likely. As such the run began in the .02s and .03s and it had a nive run only to fall like a rock right back to where it started.

I am praying that behind the scenes there is still something positive happening.

More that likely this means nothing will happen for a while.

Nope it's not from settlement discussions

If it was settlement discussions that would be something rumored through leaks from the company. At least that is my guess and the share price would be increasing. Most likely this is either a low balled settlement offer that is just stupid low or the big boys have a strategy to delay the proceedings further. Not sure what is happening but as the share price falls it doesn't create confidence in the near term settlement possibilities.

that is why I bought. I heard a lot of discussion and it is still possible that a settlement could be reached at any time. I would even take a $.50 per share outcome for a short term trade. The one thing that is a killer is waiting for years for this to end. Let's hope investors hear good news soon.

I don't think the share price will find support easily. Hope I am wrong.

I got in at the wrong moment in time but hopefully this works out in the end. I think VPLM has a strong case and the risk reward is still very positive. However, I don't see anything right now that will be a near term support for the share price. VPLM is a stock that trades on rumors and potential settlement talk. With years of little progress it appeared real movement forward was happening. But the next event on the calendar is the trial in July. I am sure other things will happen prior to a trial. At this point I don't know what those are. After the loss at the recent Marksman hearing, and I know some will call it a win, I think they lost some momentum. I read they are trying to change the judges decision. Maybe they have an argument to get that done. We will hear if that happens. But the fact the company didn't issue a statement and add it to the company webpage tells me that the results are not what VPLM hoped to see as an outcome. I would love the company to provide some sort of statement regarding this matter.

I have heard from a couple people that the IR guy did indicated the executives were getting tired of fighting. This is not something you want to hear from IR and hopefully Emil is telling him not to say that in the future. That was a poor choice of words for an IR guy. IF management is tired it doesn't show faith that they are getting close to the end. If they have been fighting for 10 years and they were getting close to the end you would like to hear IR say its been a long fight but there is a lot of excitement within the company as they feel the hard work is nearing an end. They are tired from the fight but are planning to see this to an end and anticipate a positive result from this long and difficult battle. A message like this would be what you want to hear.

I am sure the fight has been difficult. I am also sure that Emil and team would love to see a decent settlement happen so everyone can be rewarded and move on with their life. I listened to Emil speak from a few years ago and he said he just wanted crumbs. For the Amazon's of this world it is crumbs. Amazon probably is spending many millions in legal fees on this matter and could have potentially settled and saved a ton. The settlement amount increases the longer it takes and the closer they get to a trial. Unfortunately these big companies tend to drag these things out hoping companies tire and give up protecting their patents. Companies either settle for a fraction of the value of the patent or run out of money to continue the fight. That is not going to happen here. It has been a long fight and it seems obvious that VPLM will not stop until they get a decent settlement or get to trial. I just want to know what else these companies can do to delay the July trial. I am calling IR to discuss this. I have several questions I hope to get addresed.

The one other thing I would like to hear more about is our patent attorney. I have heard many say is a very talented and successful lawyer. But recently I was told that one of the investors here listened to a public hearing and did not come away impressed. Are there others here that have watched our legal team in action and are you impressed with their knowledge and ability in a courtroom? Some lawyers are great with research and moving cases forward but are not amazing in a courtroom setting. Has anyone here seen our team in action and do they stand up well to a team from Amazon and other huge tech companies on the defense side.

As for Kauaui Girl and others expecting a huge settlement, her number of $28, I would not anticipate anything close to this. VPLM does not want a trial any more than the defendants do. I would expect a settlement that results in $.50- $3 in total value per share. That would be a number that the big boys could potential live with and would be a good reward for LT shareholders awaiting a settlement. If you have a million shares you bought for $10-$20K and get a settlement of $1M you have to be happy. Even a settlement that results in you receiving $100-$250K is a great outcome. It is possible if the defendants feel they have a strong enough case they will go to trial but I would anticipate a settlement some time prior to that trail. I just hope the judge keeps the date July. But the settlement likely happens in June or July. It doesn't often happen too far in advance of a trial. But the judge will be pushing hard to get a settlement so the trial does not happen. Hope he is successful in his efforts. I think the best way to force a settlement is to tell the defendants they are not going to be successful in moving the venue and he is not moving the trial date. Plus he can tell the defendants that he is growing very tired of their games and they are not making the court happy with their actions. no defendant wants to go to trial with a judge that is not impartial and if they continue stalling Judge Albright is not going to be a happy camper in July.

I feel sorry for those here for the last 10 years. The wait is always hard. Hopefully it is just about over.

Looks like I bought at the wrong time.

My first buys were $.054. Still have a slight gain on those 140,000 shares but the additional 100,000 shares are at around .09. should have anticipated a pull back and held off on the purchase. But if this ends well it will be profitable either way.

What was the date of the Case Management Conference (CMC) you posted?
Per the document the defendant was required to turn over software 7 weeks after the CMC. I have not been hear very long so I don't understand the dates. I am sorry for asking questions regarding this but I am sure others would be interested as well. this is the section that I assume would require the source code 7 weeks after the CMC. Based on this and the Markman hearing already happening would we not assume the source code would have been turned over already?

7 weeks after CMC Defendant serves preliminary invalidity contentions in the form of (1) a chart setting forth where in the prior art references each element of the asserted claim(s) are found, (2) an identification of any limitations the Defendant contends are indefinite or lack written description under section 112, and (3) an identification of any claims the Defendant contends are directed to ineligible subject matter under section 101. Defendant shall also produce (1) all prior art referenced in the invalidity contentions, (2) technical documents, including software where applicable, sufficient to show the operation of the accused product(s), and (3) summary, annual sales information for the accused product(s) for the two years preceding the filing of the Complaint, unless the parties agree to some other timeframe.

Slow drip lower. Need a good rumor of a settlement.

Someone needs to get a good rumor out there of a settlement. There is only 4 to 5 months to the trial. I assume as that gets closer the share price will start to strengthen. This is likely just a sell on lack of near term news.

I am still wondering about the source code. Can anyone explain this process. How do the lawyers put pressure on AMZN to get that source code.
If they don't press the issue AMZN will just ignore the request. Will Judge Albright need to demand it is turned over immediately? If AMZN delays the source code too long it may require a trial delay requested by VPLM. They need time to review the code. If they push for the code now it would put the pressure needed to get a settlement from AMZN. A settlement with AMZN is huge for VPLM and immaterial to their financials. The potential from a trial is much higher so rather than turn over code they may decide to end it. We can only hope those discussions are currently underway.

Just a few personal opinions

Is there a time frame for the source code?

I am sure the company does not want to turn over source code. Did the court indicate they are required to turn it over by a specific date?

Can you provide some details on the BS legal maneuver? Is that type of B/S possible now?

I want to retire in the near future and just spend time in my backyard on my BBQ grill

These lawyers are peeing on my grill. Let's get this resolved.

Volume is decreasing what is the next event

Is anything scheduled for the near future? Also it appears that the company is not planning to put anything on their website concerning the last Markman hearing. I wan hoping the company would have some comments about the outcome.

I assume volume will stay lower until we get closer to something significant happening. Not sure when that would take place.

Agree on the broader market. It is likely to see a major pull back in the coming months. A decrease in corporate profits is likely in coming quarters. Many investors are not pricing this in assuming that we have a mild recession at worst. That is unlikely. The Fed will continue to tighten until they get the market to correct and the economy slows to a point where employment is affected.

The best thing about VPLM is that it is not dependent of the market in any way. A positive verdict results in a huge increase in share price. Then investors can take the money and invest in other beaten down stock. Could be great timing for investors in VPLM. I would think selling in June or July could allow investors to reinvest while the stock market is at a low point.

Thank you Butters. Often investors on these boards have interactions with executives at the company or have expertise in patent law. I am just trying to determine who are the posters that are the most knowledgeable. I have a lot of logic on my side but I don't know what I don't know.

I have seen people post that success in the Markman hearings is a good indication of success in the patent trial. That is good to read but I don't know where that stat comes from. I know everyone hear is looking at the bull side and I believe that they are likely infringing on the patents. But as you and I know these companies don't settle easily.

I am just curious how these companies plan to argue their case. What is the likelihood they can convince a jury that the patents are not valid? Not saying the trial will end with VPLM losing. I think they will likely win based on what I read. But I am definitely not getting the entire story and I have no knowledge in patent law.

What I do know is that if VPLM has patents that are being violated the legal system needs to push these companies. Patents are granted to companies and people for a reason. Just because a company is huge and has unlimited resources doesn't mean they should be allowed to violate the patent. I look forward to the trial. I only have 250,000 shares, if there is a settlement it would be for a significant amount I would be happy with $1. Very happy. But a success in the trial could result in a much larger settlement down the road. It would be amazing to get a $5 or more award from all the companies. If they had licensed the technology what would the companies have been forced to pay? This has the potential for a massive award.

I do feel confident in the future but why are people saying there is a surprise coming?

Do people on this board have inside contacts that feed them information or are these comments just gut feelings? I would love to believe something big is really close. History indicates that these big companies just continue fighting and don't give up easily.

Can someone with legal experience or better yet patent law knowledge help me:
What else can the defendants do to either push the trial out or help their case?
Is there anything else in the arsenal prior to going to trail?
Based on the facts do you believe AMZN feels they can win a trial?

At this point you would think the attorneys would be having a serious conversation about the odds of winning the trial. When the attorneys tell the defendants they have a 10%-20% chance of winning the trial serious settlement talks will begin. Hopefully AMZN and others are at that point now. If the trial ends in VPLM's favor the result will be damages that could be trebled. These companies are not going to want to take that risk.

Protecting patents should be a more timely and fair process

Moving these cases through the court system is not a fair system as it sits today. Most companies would have ended the fight already because they don't have the resourses to continue fighting. VPLM seems to be the exception, knowing their patents are strong and they will see this through to the end. If they lose it won't be because the patents are not valid. The resourses available to the defendants is massive and in many cases defendants are able to push these cases out until the plaintiff can no longer continue. This won't be the case with VPLM.

The board is willing to see this through to the end. The company managed to get this in the right court in WACO Texas with Judge Albright. Judge Albright seems to be a knowledgeable, no nonsense judge that is going to push this forward and will likely punish the big tech companies that continue filings attempting end this or move the venue. VPLM also has found a very competent patent attorney who will not make mistakes that strengthen the defendants case. The defendants will realize at some point soon that their tactics are not going to work and if they allow the trial to happen in July VPLM will likely win and based on what I have read it is likely they will treble the damages. It is pretty obvious the defendants all know they have been violating the patents and ignored this for years.

If VPLM wins the defendants can appeal and can push out the settlement further. Appeals will fail, and a win will increase the VPLM share price allowing the company to raise funds to continued the fight. At some point I would imagine the defendant's lawyers will likely provide guidance to the defendants that the trial will likely end with a VPLM win. Going to trial will end poorly for the defendants and result in a settlement that is far higher than a settlement today. The prudent thing is to settle the case now. The longer they wait to settle the more likely the settlement amount will increase. As the trial gets closer the pressure for a settlement grows for the defendants. VPLM will see the trial as their opportunity to get a jury to punish big tech that has been taking advantage of little guys for years. A jury loves to push the big company that has broken rules.

Filing by defendants' Title says
"Defendants opposed motion to stay case pending IPRS

I see this on Stocktwits.

anyone care to pull that document and weigh in. I don't have an account and even if I did I don't have the knowledge to determine if the motion is possible or not. There is a post saying this is concerning case 668 for patents 234 and 721.

Like I said I am knew and have little knowledge on these patents. Hopefully someone knowledgeable will read it and provide an opinion. As always the big companies will just continue to throw everything they can to the judge and see what sticks. Unlimited resources. I don't know how ling it will take for Judge Albright to rul on the motion. Hope it is fast and in VPLM's favor.

Find it funny that yo say don't post your opinion and immediately give your opinion. LOL

It doesn't matter. I just want to see a settlement or trial award that is significantly higher than the current price. How high will it move is all a huge swag.