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Jet... if we gave up on everything because it had not happened... we would be a pitiful lot
Cole.. your 20/20 hindsight relating to the future of a different set of variables is priceless.. a common refrain in some meeting places is.. "Thanks for sharing". or maybe.. we ought to all throw in the towel . there is no hope.
Jet........ u said:."TAO and their partnership with U of S have never produced a design that has been produced and successfully sold"...... so? neither has any one else... really ... what is your point? 1. a thinly veiled disparagement of anything related to gtem , a company that lied to you... and stole your highly speculative investment in a penny stock(that any respectable advisor would have warned against)? ... 2.a consortium of german university types that attempted to create something of value "ie...heavylifter" , which never made it out of the gate but in your opinion was merely a sham rum by intellectual germans that never meant to do any thing constructive except screw people. or 3. That a quality member of the militaryindustrialcomplex like LM , given at least 50 million to create what Tao has been trying to build, has really produced what we long for... but they are waiting for just the right time to reveal it..? keepin it secret and all...so they can maybe get even more taxpayer dollars to do the finishing touches.... ?
just curious
Cygnus you said "Things change,but always stay the same with this company" . ...... Is it not true that your previous statement "This is NOT a fact but a hope on your part.".... applies to you and your assertation about change.. as well.....? since always implies future and we all know that all we know 4 sure about the future is each of us will meet our own self-(ish ?) end.
probably the same reason that many of us did... seemed like a great idea, had a shuttle commander endorsing it, as well as a boatload of other notables joining the ranks... and you thought even after two or three years without seeing one scrap of real substantial evidence that something was produced or sold by Tim Huff...that there was still an outside chance he was being honest with you and there was gold at the end of the rainbow.,and that the stockprice at between 2.50 and 4.00 was realistic. ....Most of us knew reverse splits suck,penny stocks can be dangerous play grounds,and that people in stock chatrooms wouldnt just outright lie to others so they could take their money on the way down...and again on the way up...... It probably did not help much that there was this whole other privledged money people who sat around all day long selling shares they did not have and then writing their revelations on internet rags to capitalize on their short selling skills.. knowledge is power. we all know that now. trial by fire
If we repeat the same song and dance again.. 1.then we have probably learned something valuable from our visit to the world of evildoers and have a better sense of what to look for behind the curtain. 2.We are individuals who like highstakes highrisk games and are just too old to do some of the crazysht we used to and think that our odds might be better this time around when we go back to the big money playground that crashed around us 6 months ago and ...3. u fill in the blank......
or not
good point Jet.. thanks..I should have brought it up..
forgot. Duly noted.. but in all honesty i wasnt really thinking about heavy cargo lifters.<<<no where near the worldwide potential good that a near space communication platform might generate.
the rest of your commentary is a common refrain here though... it has not been done.it has not been done.
K.. i get it.......but i am here ... because i believe.. I T W I L L G E T D O N E. simple. snsr...? lm... ? fillinthebl...nks? i dunno.
we shall see
oh.. and another thing.. what do you believe the chances are that tim huff was using Tao as opposed to being in cahoots.. I mean he was almost as good as billy mays...
you have a very special talent Cole... the way you drug Tao into your diatribe of uglyawfuldecietfuldisaster ....you know... your guilt by association thing.
Contaminants are in the air sky land.... when they infect us,some of us die,some live and develop a resistance and become stronger, and others.... are just maimed for life.
Unlike you Cole,I happen to have reserved my judgement about Snsr... because their is not yet enough information on the STS. I think that ,and the sec investigation ,is why the stock has remained at 5-15 cents for what....24 months..? That is the difference between you and me. I reserve judgement and you want to jump to conclusions that can only be known in the future...And it also seems that you think everyone else should parrot your opinions,perhaps because you got burned badly by Tim,Joe,Sanfros,the prime minister of italy,the freind of the honarable henry kissinger.. and perhaps a whole other host of other evildoers ,as well as pennystocks in general.
Hard as it for you to see it... I and many others have chunked out some not too inconsiderable change to a new outfit called Tao.From what i can tell they have been working on prototypes for years without much more then the sweat of graduate students and perhaps a few grants .. Perhaps this is suggestive that they were really interested in their Work,because they sure dont seem to have gotten wealthy from it.
Will i put any more into snsr.. it depends on what i can see... no longer will i rely on what i hear..... especially in chatrooms.2manycrazes
got to hand it to you coast.. You have a grip on due diligence. just the facts. current events..; many of us sincerely appreciate your work.
jf... i prefer to not not to vocalize my opinions/judgements of other humans . i do however have a right to believe what i do. I am merely attempting to give a slightly alternative perspective to Fox news
btw Cole .. what pertinent factual relevance does tim huff now have with Tao.. or is this where i am supposed to believe that you have some inside directive
Posted by: ColeThornton Date: Saturday, July 11, 2009 6:04:13 PM
In reply to: dabug who wrote msg# 115771 Post # of 115781
dabug, this is what you don't get...
"i still believe his ideas were just fine..."
Tim Huffs ideas about the Russian deal were a...
complete failure!
Tim Huffs ideas about MagicMoney were a...
complete failure!
Tim Huffs ideas about Centerline were a...
complete failure!
Tim Huffs ideas about HotZone were a...
complete failure!
Tim Huffs ideas about the Super Hub were a...
complete failure!
Tim Huffs ideas about using NASA were a...
complete failure!
Tim Huffs ideas about the S1 were a...
complete failure!
Tim Huffs ideas about the S2A were a...
complete failure!
Tim Huffs ideas about using TAO were a...
complete failure!
Tim Huffs ideas about shares for collateral...
were criminal!
..... kinda like bobo bolinski in the zap comix of the 1960s... keeponkeepinon Cole
jmo... but i think you are missing out on life... it is your choice.
lol.... Cole... you are just off base... those were the promises that you believed in...This is not about you.... and your expectations... I am truly sorry. All i and many others believed in was the idea that there was something other than a gazillion dollar satellite with a serious time lag info transmitting capability ,that could be produced cheaply and might free some of the less fortunate of us from the corporate monopoly that dictates how we communicate and how much we pay for the privledge
Jet... do me a favor... for your edification... where i have ever babbled " ON about how GREAT it is that the ANGELS ..... "as you say. In fact .... has any one 1.... come here in the last year... and promoted with the varicity that you suggest... " about how GREAT it is that the ANGELS ...." ?
if they did... i would be inclined to call them on it... just like you..... thing is, i can not recall any.... and if you can.... well... it does not matter to me... but i am sure there might be others who care.
k... i have a question off topic... has any one else noticed the excess bs flash video content that shows up when using IE on IHUB..... ? if you know a remedy... i would appreciate knowing
thanks for your clarification
sorry to dissapoint you Cole: i still believe his ideas were just fine... Hey.. it did not work out for any of us.. I am over it.. it did not work out the way i wanted it to.. K.. im'e glad you got out at 3 bux.I hope you are supremely happy.
as for me ... I am lookin forward just like i have been for solar stocks, wind energy stocks, stem cell stocks... I invest in what i believe in... What is your du jour?
"how can anyone possibly say that people weren't getting paid" ... scuse me for interjecting Jet/mide... i don't think that was the supposition... they were getting paid... in shares.... the question then might be how many shares can be sold before they have to be reported... do you know?... i am also curious how and why this is germane to the future of snsr..... seeing as how they are still here, much to the chagrin of a few, and the product and its potential have yet to be revealed.. If it works and is sold.. these taxes will be remedied.
Cole.. when you say... "You're right dabug we think differently" i count my blessings ... i remember quite a few times when life did not live up to My expectations..the pain of wallowing in the past. have fun... im'e moving on. I like the challenge over stasis anyday
Cygnus.... you said :"They have nothing but a HOT AIR in a ENVELOPE?..............LOL "
and you probably expect your listening audience to accept that you" the black hole " have more to offer. ....?
seriously....
i would love to hear what exactly you know about the current patented technology that comprises the new STS... just the facts .... not your opinion.
that is now past history Cole.. and that also seems to be your comfort zone.. enjoy
Cole you said "You won't see it here" a conjunction of will not. that is.... in the future. sigh . Still trying to prove something to somebody because of what you have selectively read or heard and distilled through an emotional matrix of passed dashed hopes.
just mo.
i am working in the present now. my choice. and i will not burden you with any of my suppositions about the future because i probably cant predict any better than you
btw Cole ... thanks much for your unsolicited evaluation of my sense "i didn't think you would, dabug, because it makes too much sense to make sure insiders are investing in the company too." <<<< was that a dig? The thing is i am content to wait till the thing flies before i expect to see any insider investments... not too hard to figure
bottom line. do not think alike..you and me
an emotional component might be at work
Cole, you said "you really think Jon Leinwand has put more cash into GlobeTel/Sanswire than Jobs and Gates did in their companies... "
nope... did not even consider that line of thought.... nice diversionary non-sequitur reponse tho. lol
i am sure that is what steve jobs and bill gates did.. put up there own money.. and no shares for either of them... you know... working out of their garages and all. thats how most publically traded companies get started companies get started. The inventor puts up his money and lets everyone else buys shares from somebody other than him/her. But now you will do what you do so well... probably say " not another comparison to microsoft..." tick tick
lol... ""targeting" innocent folks" ... i would imagine that because these people have more money than most that: 1. they have been around the block a few times , and that being the case, then 2. they are not as innocent as you proclaim.. justanopinion. Perhaps they are quite a bit more savvy than you or i ... when we used to be innocent..
please Cole... emphasize "former" ceo... or should we all give up...now... you don't know ... surprise... otherwise you would produce something relevant... you know...like current events. something meaty... the coups de gras . stick it to Tao ..stick it to JL... without that... its just hotair
Jet.... it is the reason companies go public.....It is how the government works.... it is how you and i get a loan...."other peoples money"... sometimes it works.... sometimes the other people get screwed.. why don't we all give up.
Remember when you fell off the bike.. the first time out... ??? Why did you get back on? because the bike screwed you? i don't think so. Because you had faith that the next time... it would be different.
You have nothing tangible that proves you know any more about the future than I.
Hey... we all have 20/20 hindsight... big woop.
probably not.......
cjzak .......you said " So does this mean they (SB) will be doing the whole thing themselves with the agreement of the carriers, thereby sidestepping a patent infringement? I guess I'm not quite sure of the picture here. Cj"... since i am not a premium member of ihub.. i can only answer you here... and the answer is.. anytime :)
do you think the taliban and mexican drug lords have ready access to these targeting/designator technologies?
jeez Cole.... now... i am 100% sure.... that you really dont get it. you really try so hard to make this globetel thing about you. I ,and many others have moved on.. looking forward .. you know... to the future... the unknown .What did i do....? hit a nerve....? put a smile on your face.. There are plenty of battles out there.. some will be won, some not. Its life. Your input will not effect my choices as it relates to Snsr. I see it as a new beginning. Sorry you have such a hard time dealing with it. You misjudged the future once and you like I will misjudge it again. Its no big deal. I learned to take responsibility for my actions. You seem to still be struggling to prove something. Sorry... it doesnt work for me. If you could predict the future with 100% accuracy each and every time... i am fairly certain that you would not be devoting so much of your talent and time in anonymous chatrooms discussing your opinions on pennystocks.
perhaps coastie .. there is a difference this time around ... this time... we are not looking at Vern w/ a piece of scrap held high.... do You have... The reliable crystal ball...?
nice ... glad you caught it too
the art and science of future prediction ... place your bets ?
sorry Cole... at this point in time I and others are patiently watching and waiting ... waiting to see a truth other than the illogical inductive truth that you espouse
Cole.... they are not trying to please you.
One of the advantages as i have come to understand it , is that the snsr platform is that it is available for rapid deployment .Further,I believe there is a relatively favorable cost basis in its deployment compared to high tech drones. Is it not possible that the military might consider it disposable once it has accomplished its primary mission?...