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If you can have 22 some mil shares, then there are tens of handreds share holders hold the samilar amount of shares. It is not surprise that there are tens bil shares out there for sale. Even MMs should have 100 times more shares than you. No wonder it did not move the pps with such big volume. JMO
Yes, it seems very odds that the pps still same with bi shares traded today. But who know how many shares are needed to move the pps and how many shares are out there. It always makes me wonder how and where those countless shares in MMs' hand come from. God bless Q longs.
The more they hire, the more share dump to satisfy the operational need. Something happened on the back scene for the studio deal, otherwise the pps can't keep downing.
have been on this board for quite over years, where the future pps will ultimately depend on the share structure. The current OS count is only eatimated from the previous numerous prs by somwone which no official annocement from Frank. FK keeps saying x% of whatever buy back, retire, convert... but never provide the number whatever. That is only thing does do make a lot of investers comfortable. When the pps waw 0.028, I was here. at that time the OS is around 7.5 bi with 15 bi AS. Since the time they annonced OS is around 15 bi with 50 bi AS, the pps keeps coming down to where we are right now. Noone knows how much those ASs have been put into the market now or will beput. This huge uncertainty keeps large investors away from buying. All the current share holders who are interested in qbid already put their money in it with their limit of affordibility. Without vast investers and buyers buying, the pps will go nowhere. What you can do is only to watch qbid being manipulated by whoever (FRrank or MMs..... JMHO
I do not believe it is shorting issue either. The key is how much O/S in the market. Why it is so hard for FK FK to provide the number and only mention 53% of the fk number will be converted to....... Please don't blame any one and anything except FK FK worthy of being blamed for countless unmet timeline, the advertisors/big carriers overwhelmingly knocking the door, black hole of O/S, countless promising as going to new exchange, audit, stock buyback and retirement, delayed lunching dates, number of subscribers and so on ...... All of these no one know the exact outcomes. Yes no doubt there are some slow progresses but far less enough to keep the pace with the need of the Q-TV in the market. Think about it how much the O/S back to the time the pps reached 0.28? about 7 bil. How much the O/S now, no one knows except the FK FK. See where the problems are. JMO
Audit is ongoing for years, really have no clue to see the end!
Well it is still very possible for pps drop below 15 with news. Good luck all!
Another thing is I don't believe MMs covering short almost everyday for so long time. How could that happen? there are a lot of big dumps leading to the drop of pps which indicate dilutions. JMO.
I believe it is due to dilution. That why it is so hard for FK to disclose the financial audit results. It has been a long time for them not to update the O/S or A/S. Make sense! sigh!!
The 6 bilion O/S owned by .... has been qualified to put into the market. So the floating is no longer 4-9 bil but around 15 bil. That may be the reason for this low price. JMO
do not foget it is carried in TW only in maine needless to say VOD maybe. How big? No wonder it is still going ......I pray not seeing below 0.001. jmo
Shorting is not the convincible reason for stock at this price. The company performence and huge O/S are the problems. No idea what fk is doing. JMO
mm might know the dilution is going on or coming. JMO
It is hard for me to understand how much can be made by shorting this cheap stock. Is it worthwhile to short? At same time when do shorting, it is also vary risky if it is flying.
Congratulations! Did not see any hopes after having been here over a year! Really hard to wait year after year with the similar pr recycled.
This type post have been posted again and again for years. Would you please find new staff to post?
Day dream!
Agreed! They even said the audir years ago. Right now, it is still the topic. When can be this over? might be never. JMO
Will 16 or even 15 catch our eyes? Guess BT can wait to see it.
Allll I want is to retire ASAP.
It is hard to believe that the new buy-back is begining whereas the old one has not finished yet. The bottom line is the credibility of Frank. The dropping of pps just reflected the no confidence on FK. Big T may be right that 16 is not far away. JMO
Anyone knew anything about FK's talk in CA some university at june 1?
Congradulations for only 50% down. Mine down 75% and still waiting.
Agreed! BT please provide evidence to support your number to convince people. otherwise you are ......, and furious attacks will follow.
that means the results of the survey are reliable. Myself provided the acurate infomation regarding t othe shares. I trust the survey. Only 72 bi shares could explain where the pps is currently. See, everything heppened with reasons. Do not blame MMs, daytraders, swingers,pumpers and dumpers. The botomline is the company itself. JMO
Will anyone tell me why the 9 mil block's trade is special since people keep mentioning it? TIA.
Well Well Well.. any time BT sounds positive about this puppy, it makes most feel good.
Please do not expect huge up movement of the pps with this kind perspective news. Only pray for no pps dropping.
dkgross, I absolutely agree with you. Not mention that there are over 30 bil AS ready to go anytime (without inform share holders). It is ultimately the company not MMs to have a big impact on the pps. If Co. has revenue, less share count, and other carriers...., no one even MMs could stop qbid flying.
I am talking about QBID's value. The share counts will be different depending upon whether the two are same or not.
Well there is always a hope that tomorrow will be better. Who knows?
Whether qtn and qbid are same or not, it ultimately comes down to the OS numbers to assess the company's value.
As matter of fact, it is the os that makes me feel unconfortable as a investor. The Co. to me is doing good and has made great progresses compared to the same time of last year. Again the pps kept dropping. The only explaination that sounds reasonable to dump of shares. Realy hope it is not the case but no one could prove!
First of all. I believe whoever took the survey is sincere, trustworthy and qbid supporter. Secondly, you may never know what exactly the OS is from FK. See that is the problem. Maybe the os is too big to make them provide the count. Otherwise I can't think of other reasons to hold them to release the number. I can't believe they do not have a roughly estimate of the numbers that means you keep printing shares without records. Hard to believe. JMO
Hi skunksyard, please keep talking. I enjoy whatever you talked. Wish Q well. Wish tomorrow be a better day for Q!
Am I the only audiance here to listen SK's talk? Huh...
Hi skunksyard, it seems you are performing one person's show. I wonder whether other people are interested in all those information anymore. Go back and have a good night and good rest. c u tomorrow.
It seems more and more people lost their interested in QBID. Very sad. Who will take the blame? .......
FK never learn when to pr.At breaking point, pr is so important, critical snf much needed. Well no pr, no future. Will be back to starting point soon.sigh!!!
Another cycle where people emotionaly exhausted.