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Just opened my Christmas present from my wife...
A new DMP-X20!!!!
Of note to all the side of the box says Operating System/Firmware: MicroOs;re-programmable*
*visit www.gateway.com for the latest operating system and firmware upgrades.
Now that is funny...
talk about living in the past.
Med.rare...
This is the question and answer period...
http://www.edigerati.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=47
imho the dilution has been factored in for about 6 months (check some old cassie posts it might be longer)
Any short term down movements will be offset in the short term by new business.
A year from now it's the new or lack of that will drive this baby.
Court Says Net Music Subpoenas Not Authorized
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - In a surprise setback for the recording industry, a U.S. appeals court said on Friday its methods for tracking down those who copy its music over the Internet are not authorized by law.
The Recording Industry Association of America (news - web sites), a trade group, has sought to force Verizon Communications and other Internet service providers to reveal the names of customers it suspects may be copying music without permission.
The recording industry says the widespread copying of music over the Internet is partially to blame for falling CD sales.
Verizon has argued that existing copyright law does not give the recording industry such authority and its customers' privacy was being violated.
A lower court earlier this year upheld the recording industry's tactics, which have served as the basis for hundreds of lawsuits filed against individual Internet users.
But in a strongly worded ruling, the appeals court sided with Verizon, saying a 1998 copyright law does not give copyright holders the ability to subpoena customer names from Internet providers without filing a formal lawsuit.
"In sum, we agree with Verizon that (the law) does not by its terms authorize the subpoenas issued here," Chief Judge Douglas Ginsburg wrote.
Neither Verizon nor the RIAA was immediately available for comment.
The strength is how it's moved up since you and others (like heybrad) sold a boat load at much lower prices.
Do you really need to use words like abortion to make a point?
Strong arguments imho don't need such foul language.
Good luck finding one.
I hope I am not the only one that tosed you.
Breaking News!! Federal appeals court on Friday rejected efforts by recording industry to compel nation's Internet providers to identify subscribers accused of illegally distributing music online..
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20031219/D7VHHMDO0.html
Dutch Court Throws Out Attempt to Control Kazaa
2 hours, 7 minutes ago Add Technology - Internet Report to My Yahoo!
By Marcel Michelson and Bernhard Warner
AMSTERDAM/LONDON (Reuters) - The Dutch supreme court on Friday threw out an attempt by a music copyright agency to put controls on popular Internet file-swapping software system Kazaa, a ruling the music industry attacked as flawed.
The decision is a fresh blow to the media industry, which has fought to shut down file-sharing networks they say have created a massive black-market trade in free music, films and video games on the Internet.
"The victory by Kazaa creates an important precedent for the legality of peer-to-peer software, both in the European Union (news - web sites) as elsewhere," Kazaa's lawyers Bird & Bird said in a statement.
The decision by the Dutch court, the highest European body yet to rule on file-sharing software, means that the developers of the software cannot be held liable for how individuals use it. It does not address issues over individuals' use of such networks.
The International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI), the music trade group representing independent and major music labels including Warner Music, Sony Music, BMG, EMI and Universal Music, criticized the ruling as "one-sided" and vowed to continue its legal crusade elsewhere.
"Today's ruling on Kazaa by the Dutch Supreme Court is a flawed judgment, but still leaves no doubt that the vast majority of people who are using file-swapping services like Kazaa are acting illegally -- whatever country they are in," the group said in a statement.
TARGETING INDIVIDUAL KAZAA USERS
The music industry in the United States, feeling the pinch of successive years of declining CD sales, has begun suing individual downloaders, many of whom are Kazaa users. The IFPI has said a similar legal campaign could be launched in Europe.
The Supreme Court rejected demands by Buma Stemra, the Dutch royalties collection society, that distribution of Kazaa cease and that future versions be modified so that copyrighted materials cannot be exchanged over the network, lawyers representing Kazaa said.
Kazaa and other new breed peer-to-peer networks have argued they have no centralised servers and therefore cannot control what is exchanged by their users, a defense the IFPI and other media organizations challenge.
The IFPI maintained Kazaa could be modified to filter out copyrighted works. They also demanded the company warn Kazaa users that unauthorized distribution of such materials was illegal.
The supreme court upheld a March 2002 ruling in which an appeals court ruled in favor of Fasttrack, the Amsterdam-based firm that developed Kazaa. Fasttrack later sold the technology to Sharman Networks Ltd of Australia.
The media industry has launched a similar suit in the United States against Sharman, which many see as the crucial legal showdown for determining the legal future of file-sharing.
Kazaa has become the undisputed king of file-sharing networks. In October, Kazaa registered over 17.5 million European and American users, according to Internet measurement firm Nielsen//NetRatings.
In the Netherlands alone there are 3.6 million users.
"This is a historic victory for the Internet and consumers," Niklas Zennstroem and Janus Friis, the founders of Kazaa, were quoted in the lawyer's statement as saying.
I hope the bottom is at my next buy. LOL
imho the traders will start showing back up in about a week.
imho they won't find many longs ready to part with our new found shares.
It used to be (this year) several million dollars in one year was all this company could do.
Let alone all from one customer alone.
Looks like in a few years the bashers will have to recall back a few years for their ammo.
LOL
I have to admit I am more excited about the long term potential of e.Digital then I ever have been.
Imho the Hard drive MP3 auto market and the quality inexpensive IFE markets are in my opinion two largest markets waiting to be had in the Hand Held arena.
Our Ohter Video/Audio CE hand held potential is large also and it looks like we are well positioned to get revenue from a wide range of products.
Today you can find MicroOs in B & O, APS Digeplayer and the Gateway Hard Drive DAP.
a year from now...
1. APS (imho 4+ airlines)
2. B & O continued maybe add a hard drive player and cornice player
3. Gateway (more than one well selling product imho)
4. F-10 Auto Hard Drive Player
5. New Audio Video Platform due Spring 04
6. Audio/Video Platform 7 in screen due Fall 04
7. Worlds largest flash based MP3 maker new MP3 players (could be many new players)
8. New Cornice based audio player in the markets.
... and many more we only wish for ie core tech in who knows what...
And for the first time in the history of e.digital management goes on record as saying at the current time we do not see the company needing new funds over the next twelve months.
What is not to like?
So the next Qtr will show growth.of..100%+ (not bad)eom
Only when you were one.eom
Public companies could post a PR at anytime, any day, any hour.
None of us have a clue as to when the next PR may hit.
Today during the call we may get revenue projections that have factored in revenue from customers that will be mentioned in future PRs.
Or not
Or something else
Or nothing
or a lot
stand by
If you are going to follow and post about a company it would help to keep up on PRs released to the public don't you think?
Yahoo posted it at 5:11om today, hours before your statement.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?d=t&s=EDIG.OB
Sounds like every thing you need in a Hard Drive Player
And unlike the iPod it is not limited to the unpopular ACC for paid downloads but it supports the WMA format that most other players are adopting going forward.
Memories of the Lotus 123 vs Excel battle years ago.
imho Microsoft wins every time
and at some point the iPod/Acc advantage will lose
Gateway DMP-X20 20GB Jukebox Player
20GB* holds up to 8,000 .wma songs
FM tuner/voice recorder/storage
2.5" backlit LCD display
High-speed USB 2.
Mfr. Part #: DMP-X20
Item #: 7004768
IN-STOCK: Usually ships in 2-3 days
http://accessories.gateway.com/AccessoryStore/Consumer+Electronics_381930/Audio_381931/MP3+Players_3....
Wall St Week Ahead-Stocks to rally on Saddam's capture
Reuters, 12.14.03, 10:01 AM ET
By Bill Rigby and William Kemble-Diaz
NEW YORK/LONDON, Dec 14 Reuters) - U.S. stocks look ready to rally when the market opens on Monday after the capture of former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.
In fact, analysts believe Saddam's capture will give a general boost to equities around the globe, as well as to the U.S. dollar and U.S. Treasuries.
"It's broadly positive for equity markets," said Hilary Cook, director of investment strategy at Barclays Stockbrokers. "Concerns over the situation in Iraq have weighed on sentiment and help explain why shares haven't rallied by as much as they could have in the face of some pretty positive economic data."
So U.S. troops' capture of Saddam, who was found hiding in a hole near his home town of Tikrit, could give the blue-chip Dow Jones industrial average <.DJI> reason to extend last week's gains above the psychologically sensitive 10,000 mark.
London's FTSE-100 index <.FTSE> and the FTSE Eurotop 300 index <.FTEU3> of pan-European blue chips also could get a lift from the news of the Iraqi dictator's capture.
"U.S. and UK markets could have the most to gain because war is expensive," Cook said, referring to investor concerns that occupying American and British forces might get bogged down by a worsening security situation in Iraq after Saddam Hussein's regime was toppled this spring.
Spirits also should be lifted by the Dow holding onto its five-figure finish and the prospect of closing out the market's first winning year since 1999.
But some may think it's time to sell as valuations peak.
"I would love to see some consolidation in the market," said Sandy Lincoln of Wayne Hummer Asset Management in Chicago, who manages about about $1.2 billion of assets for wealthy individuals and institutions. "It's a perverse wish -- but some of these valuations, particularly on the tech side, seem hard to fathom."
Stocks like the world's biggest chip maker Intel Corp. (nasdaq: INTC - news - people) and Internet high-flyers Yahoo Inc. (nasdaq: INTC - news - people) and eBay Inc. (nasdaq: INTC - news - people) have led the market higher over the past nine months or so. But some investors worry that stock-price growth is getting ahead of profit growth, like in the ill-fated tech bubble of 2000.
This week could be the crunch time to decide whether to sell before the end of the tax year, or hang on in the hope of more gains.
"Valuing the market, based on historical reported earnings, makes it look very expensive," said Gordon Fowler, chief investment officer of Glenmede Trust Co. in his weekly outlook. "Valuing it, based on projected operating earnings, makes it look reasonably priced.
"The truth lies somewhere in between."
TEMPERING HOPE WITH CAUTION
Further huge gains may not follow like the first time the Dow broke 10,000. Back in late March 1999, when the Dow first held above 10,000, the index took barely two months to add another 1,000 points and top 11,000.
This time around, investors are a bit more cautious after weathering more than three years of a bear market.
Now that the Dow has cleared the 10,000 hurdle again, few seem to expect it to make a run up to 11,000 again any time soon. But there's no sign investors are ready to bail out of stocks, either.
"There's a lot of momentum in this market," Lincoln said. "Clients have been wanting to get on this bandwagon, and really reluctant to get off it."
Last week, stocks gained, pushing the Dow safely above the 10,000 mark and the Standard & Poor's 500 to an 18-month high, thanks to broadly good economic signs and the U.S. Federal Reserve commenting that inflation is not a problem, suggesting that it won't raise rates for some time to come.
The blue-chip Dow Jones industrial average <.DJI> ended the week up 1.82 percent at 10,042.16, its highest closing level since May 24, 2002. The broader Standard & Poor's 500 Index <.SPX> rose 1.19 percent for the week, to 1,074.14, its highest close since May 28, 2002.
The technology-focused Nasdaq Composite Index <.IXIC> was up 0.57 percent for the week, to 1,949, below the 2,000 level it broke through briefly the previous week.
For the year, the Dow is now up 20 percent, the S&P 500 up 22 percent, and the Nasdaq up 46 percent.
This week investors will focus on Tuesday's Consumer Price Index, due at 8:30 a.m. (1330 GMT), for the latest read on inflation. Economists expect a very modest 0.1 percent rise for November, according to a Reuters poll. Anything greater would be an unwelcome surprise after the Fed minutes from its rate-setting committee's October meeting, released on Thursday, showed the Fed considered inflation under wraps through 2004 and possibly beyond.
Housing starts and industrial production figures are also due Tuesday, with weekly initial jobless claims on Thursday.
Earnings reports this week include tech bellwether Oracle Corp. (nasdaq: ORCL - news - people) on Monday and Wall Street heavyweights Goldman Sachs (nyse: ORCL - news - people) and Morgan Stanley (nyse: ORCL - news - people) on Thursday. (Wall St Week Ahead runs weekly. Comments or questions on this column can be e-mailed to bill.rigby(at)reuters.com.)
Copyright 2003, Reuters News Service
2004 Will Be the U.S.'S Best Year Economically in Last 20 Years, The Conference Board Reports in a Revised Forecast
Thursday December 11, 11:01 am ET
NEW YORK, Dec. 11 /PRNewswire/ -- Revising its year-end economic forecast sharply upward, The Conference Board today projected that real GDP growth will hit 5.7% next year, making 2004 the best year economically in the last 20 years.
The forecast, by Conference Board Chief Economist Gail Fosler, expects worker productivity, which set a 20-year record in the third quarter, to rise at a healthy 3.6% next year. That would follow a gain of 4.3% this year.
The economic forecast is prepared for more than 2,500 corporate members of The Conference Board's global business network, based in 66 nations.
KEY BAROMETERS FLASHING GROWTH
"Growing business spending and continued strength in consumer spending are generating growth throughout the U.S. economy," says Fosler. "This burgeoning strength is reflected in The Conference Board's widely-watched Leading Economic Indicators, the Consumer Confidence Index and the Help-Wanted Advertising Index. While the labor market, a critical factor in sustaining growth, is growing slowly, a pick-up in hiring may already have begun."
Real consumer spending, which continues to fuel growth, will increase at a 4.7% pace next year, up from about 3.2% this year. Another gain of 4.3% is projected for 2005.
While the U.S. economy is expected to generate more than one million new jobs next year, the unemployment rate will edge down only slightly, averaging 5.6% in 2004.
The Conference Board forecast notes that as the U.S. economy bounces back, so is Europe, although growth will be subdued compared to most other major parts of the world. "For all the concern about a weak dollar," says Fosler, "the dollar will be worth more than the euro by the end of the year."
Real capital spending, which will rise by only 2.7% this year, will climb 11.7% next year and another 8.6% in 2005. Pre-tax corporate operating profits will top $1 trillion next year, up from a projected $928 billion this year. Another trillion-dollar-plus gain in profits is expected in 2005.
The continued recovery in business profits, which was a key ingredient in funding new investment (crucial in making 2004 a strong growth year), depends on price relief. Business profits will benefit from both improved volume and recovering profit margins in 2004, as inflation creeps back toward 3% by the end of the year.
Source: Revised Conference Board Economic Forecast
December 2003
Coke to Launch UK Music Download Service Next Month
24 minutes ago Add Technology - Reuters to My Yahoo!
LONDON (Reuters) - Coca-Cola (NYSE:KO - news) is launching an Internet music download service in Britain next month, the first consumer brand to jump into Europe's crowded Internet music market, the company said on Monday.
The soft drinks giant said that in January it will begin selling music downloads from a catalog of 250,000 songs supplied from each of the five major music labels.
The artists range from Eminem (news - web sites) to Elvis, delivered through a partnership with UK-based music download specialists OD2. The companies did not announce the pricing plan for downloads.
The European market for legal music downloads, though small at the moment, has attracted intense interest from major media companies and retailers ranging from Virgin Megastores to Time Warner's (NYSE:TWX - news) AOL unit.
Still, the industry-sanctioned sites are running well behind the free file-sharing services run by Kazaa and iMesh.
Coke, which has huge brand appeal and a massive marketing budget, is expected to bring some much-needed publicity to the subscription download services.
Coke, a sponsor for the official UK music chart, will also become the sponsor of the forthcoming official download chart. The new download site will be at www.Mycokemusic.com. The download service is for the UK market only, the company said. Coca-Cola's marketing approach has less to do with selling drinks directly than to associate itself with an attractive lifestyle, particularly to young, tech-savvy consumers.
Coke's main rival, PepsiCo Inc. (NYSE:PEP - news), will join forces with Apple Computer Inc. (Nasdaq:AAPL - news) iTunes download service in a 100-million-song "under-the-cap" giveaway beginning in February. The Apple service is not available in Europe.
They couldn't find anyone to give them cash, so they were taken out by one of their customers.
imho a brush off is the least you should get.eom
41 more sued over music downloads
WASHINGTON (AP) --The recording industry has filed 41 more lawsuits against computer users in at least 11 U.S. states it said were caught illegally distributing songs over the Internet, continuing its aggressive campaign against online music piracy.
The latest copyright suits this week bring to 382 filed since the Washington-based Recording Industry Association of America announced its legal campaign nearly six months ago.
The group's president, Cary Sherman, said the group has no plans to cut back, even as media coverage over the continuing lawsuits wanes.
"People who engage in illegal file-sharing should be aware, whether or not they hear about it this month, that doesn't mean the enforcement program has been reduced in any way," Sherman said. "If anything it will be increased."
The recording industry is monitoring popular Internet services where computer users can download song files, searching for people illegally distributing the largest music collections. Court-issued subpoenas compel Internet providers to identify their customers linked to the online accounts used to download songs.
Among the RIAA's recent targets is retiree Ernest Brenot, 79, of Ridgefield, Washington, who wrote in a handwritten note to a federal judge that he does not own a computer nor can he operate one.
Brenot was accused of illegally offering for download 774 songs by artists including Vanilla Ice, U2, Creed, Linkin Park and Guns N' Roses.
Brenot's wife, Dorothy, said she and her husband were stunned by the claims, offended at the suggestion they listened to such music. Brenot was targeted in the previous round of 80 suits the recording organization filed late in October.
Brenot and her husband said their son-in-law briefly added Internet service to their own cable television account while living with the couple because Comcast Cable Communications Inc. said it would add a surcharge to send separate bills to the same mailing address.
"There's a mistake in this case," Dorothy Brenot said. "We're innocent in all of this, but I don't know how we're going to prove it."
The 41 most recent suits were filed against Internet users in Massachusetts, Colorado, Arizona, Connecticut, New Jersey, Wisconsin, Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, Illinois and Washington.
The recording industry also said Wednesday that it has reached financial settlements against at least 220 computer users. Defense lawyers familiar with some of the cases have said penalties ranged from $2,500 to $7,500 each.
Bid .54 Ask .545 up early.eom
Looks like something is up.eom
It must be hard for you to admit you have a poor memory.
For your sake (and ours) I hope it improves.
The fact that a small revenue stream is not mentioned in the 10-Q but is in the 10-K is normal.
The fact that you use it to claim e.Digital no longer gets revenue from B and O is poor DD (or bashing)
Didn't you just yesterday finish responses to your DD telling us that Gateway is not using e.Digital?
Still want to claim that?
You say I think EDIG saw less than $25k from both these deals combined
From the March 31, 2003 10K they had so far $55,625 of lic revenues and NRE fees of $75,000 (of which $36K was deferred hitting the income statement in later Qtrs)or at the least $130K from one of the deals.
Nothing has been said about giving anything away, and my conversations with the company confirm that.
From the 10K...
"In July 2001, we signed a royalty-bearing licensing agreement with Bang & Olufsen Multimedia A/S ("Bang & Olufsen"), a premier European electronics, telephony and audio/video manufacturer. Under this licensing agreement, we customized and provided Bang & Olufsen a MicroOS-based custom product platform for use in their branded music product line. To date, we have received $75,000 under this agreement with respect to NRE fees only, of which $36,292 has been deferred as of March 31, 2003. The first product developed under our licensing agreement (the BeoSound 2 digital audio player) became available to consumers in the United States and Canada in late June 2002, and in European markets a few weeks later. In December 2002, Bang & Olufsen added BeoSound 2 for the Macintosh to their product line. This was also developed in collaboration with our engineering team. Bang & Olufsen sells their branded products through exclusive retail stores worldwide. To date, we have received $55,625 of licensing revenues and have recognized a total of $55,625 of revenues under this agreement.
yes.eom
Remember the First Thanksgiving...
They Gave Thanks for their Safe Arrival in the New World
The first Thanksgiving occurred when Captain John Woodlief led the newly arrived English colonists to a grassy slope along the James River and instructed them to drop to their knees and pray in thanks for a safe arrival to the New World. On this day, Dec. 4, 1619 (one year and 17 days prior to the landing of the Pilgrims in Massachusetts), these 38 men from Berkeley Parish in England were given the instructions:
"Wee ordaine that the day of our ships arrivall at the place assigned for plantacon in the land of Virginia shall be yearly and perpetually keept holy as a day of Thanksgiving to Almighty God."
http://www.virginia.org/site/features.asp?FeatureID=50
Remember all, be sure to get your facts right. Just because everyone else thinks something does not mean they know what they are talking about!!!!
Don't be so hard on him, he just spent the past 20 min doing research and it's the best he could come up with to support is off base assertion.
If anyone ever said "those units" were designed by e.Digital.
When e.Digital re-branded those units they never said they designed them.
You should really follow this stuff closer if you are going to spend so much time posting.
You seemed much smarter when I met you my friend.
Are you really spending your free time posting poor research links regarding products never described to have e.Digital tech inside, in an attempt to prove Gateway is not using e.Digital inside?
Man even Cassie knows better than that.
Hope you find something well worth your time to do over the Holidays.
EDIG 0.53 +0.02 0.51 0.53 85,100 11:58:36
Re: Economy...
Let's hope these statements from the Fed bode well for Airlines and Consumer Electronics...
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=71000001&refer=home&sid=aXuXEm5y10Uo
The Philadelphia Fed's survey also projected that the economy will expand 4.3 percent for all of next year, the fastest since 1998. In a separate survey, the National Association for Business Economics said that its panel of 28 economists forecast 4.5 percent growth in 2004, the fastest since 1984.
imho the reason the drop is small is because of...
“This funding strengthens our financial position, providing an essential ingredient necessary for closing significant new OEM business,” said Fred Falk, chief executive officer and president of e.Digital Corporation. “We will provide greater detail on the timing and importance of this financing at our December 4, 2003 shareholders meeting.”
It would be nice if our new found volume had something to do with this...
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/techinvestor/2003-11-17-msft-sings_x.htm
I can't post a link, but if you are building a Gateway Media Center PC on page 3 it gives you the option of adding the DMP-X20.
Sweet
Congratulations to all Longs
You stuck it out...
when the Music Companies dragged their feet
when money ran out and shares had to be issued at low prices
when our former President bet the house on unsigned Consumer Electronic deals
when bashers constantly harped on the past
when other longs bailed below current prices (you know who you are)
imho As the next few weeks unfold your ability to weather the storm will reward you very much.
imho you deserve it...
and so do I