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Talking with-buddies-I-asked have you ever heard of LM?
Only one said yes, my friend who told me about LQMT originally.
Lets say the price point is more expensive than existing materials, the general public has never heard of LM. So does Apple care about using a more expensive case when no one has ever heard of the technology? My guess is no especially since electronics competitors cannot use LM per the agreement between LQMT and APPL.
This could be the reason why we haven't seen an LM apple case.
Does anyone know-the-cost-of an LQMT i5s/i6 case?
Is it possible that to fabricate a case made of LM... is too expensive vs. existing materials.
When you consider the volume needed a small price difference can be a huge price point barrier.
Surfint, not sure what the arrangement is between the 3 LEGALLY or what the outcome would be if they did go to court over using LM.
I have to public reply since I do not have a premium account...
there was a hint that the iWatch is more than just a standard watch ... A computer. Appl has an exclusive right to use LM with electronics.
Swatch as everyone knows is the global leader in time pieces and they are upset about apples entry into the market. I thought it was interesting that LQMT was mentioned and that both companies have a deal with LM... No telling what might come out especially in a public media fist-fight!
I am also surprised that LM is holding at .08. For a company that has been operating as long as they have with no real customers and skirting by on apples coat tails financially; truthfully the stock should be worthless. BUT there is Still a lot of investor enthusiasm for it even though they've been operating on negative dollars and rumor.
Like I said before I got out before the i5 conference because I did not believe the LQMT hype. I've bought back in just above .08 but not heavily...
If-true-it-could reveal that LQMT will be used in the iWatch
a fight like this in the media could be very good for LQMT and possibly could make it the star it should be!!!!
Something is brewing here... I understand why the CEO of swatch would be on Bloomberg playing down the iWatch (protecting sale turff) but to mention their agreement about LQMT implies, maybe Apple is ready to use LQMT!!!
"The Swiss company said in 2011 it obtained a license to use alloys made by Liquidmetal Technologies Inc. (LQMT) in watches, gaining access to metal that’s moldable like plastic". "Apple, based in Cupertino, California, also made a patent- licensing agreement with Liquidmetal".
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/03/06/swatch-ceo-disparages-iwatch-microsoft-could-re-enter-the-smartwatch-market/
Could-an-LQMT fight between Swatch & Apple be-coming!!!
"The Swiss company said in 2011 it obtained a license to use alloys made by Liquidmetal Technologies Inc. (LQMT) in watches, gaining access to metal that’s moldable like plastic". "Apple, based in Cupertino, California, also made a patent- licensing agreement with Liquidmetal".
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/03/06/swatch-ceo-disparages-iwatch-microsoft-could-re-enter-the-smartwatch-market/
Swatch-Apple & LQMT Swatch CEO disparages iWatch
Oh Boy this could get very interesting!!! link below...
Some quotes from article:
"Swatch has had contact with Apple over many years about materials for products and so-called energy harvesting technology that would generate energy from physical movement, Hayek said today".
"The Swiss company said in 2011 it obtained a license to use alloys made by Liquidmetal Technologies Inc. (LQMT) in watches, gaining access to metal that’s moldable like plastic".
"Apple, based in Cupertino, California, also made a patent- licensing agreement with Liquidmetal".
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2013/03/06/swatch-ceo-disparages-iwatch-microsoft-could-re-enter-the-smartwatch-market/
Nasdaq gurus report on LQMT some of-the-best-in the industry say overall LQMT needs sales. ... In order for this penny to fly! (Link below)
Hopefully other than speculation about patients and prototypes, which I must admit does Not do anything as far as stock performance or else the stock would be at $5.00, LQMT must announce signed contracts.
http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/lqmt/guru-analysis#.UTx6Jfq9Kc2
The sales company LQMT hired to sell has
Anyone heard any news from them?
Sandy, if this is-true and LQMT-can then WOW!
This is just what they need to prove that they will finally be profitable -REVENUE.
Forbes: Apple patient slap bracelet can LQMT-do-this?
Can liquid metal perform in this manner?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2013/02/21/the-iwatch-as-snap-bracelet-apple-just-got-the-patent/
Sandy, this will-come as-a-shock to both of us.
But I'm a born sucker for love ... LQMT.
LQMT, is like a great love-affair. In-the-beginning,
It is a goddess. A holy cause. But... every love affair has a terrible enemy: time. We see LQMT as it is. It is not a goddess, It was never pure, never saintly, never perfect. And we run away, find another love, another cause. Quick, sordid affairs. Lust, but no love. Passion, but no compassion. Without love, without a cause, we are... nothing! ... We stay because we believe. We leave because we are disillusioned. We come back because we are lost. We lose because we are committed.
Now they're talking about NON-Liquid-parts ...huh?
Are they giving up their core business?
Wait-and-hope, since-2003 have they ever turned a profit?
What has got you so convinced that LQMT is going to make you a tidy profit?
Everyone on this board should call LQMT and-ASK!
WHERE ARE THE PROFITS? WHERE's THE BEEF!
Difficult to understand how prototypes equate-to investor-confidence
Did Tom's CC comments about shipping more evaluation prototypes to potential customers cause the stock to rise to .15 and above as predicted by some? He said it with such confidence (or did he). The answer is no, it did not.
When the i5 Apple public conference announcement made it clear that APPL had no intention or commitment to use LQMT for its i5 case what happened to the stock price? Has everyone simply forgotten this lesson? ...
the've been shipping prototypes forever and I believe the only reason LQMT is still operating is because APPL reinvested once again in LQMT.
Instead of boasting about prototypes Tom how about boasting about signed contracts and revenue!
05-2003 LQMT was-at-a-high of $6.50 since then
LQMT has been Generally in steady decline.
Since 07, the last 6 years, LQMT has bounced around in the low end of the dollar range mostly on the floor of that range. Aside from all of the legal issues and management issues it implies one key factor... Investor confidence given little or no revenue.
I don't believe in miracles or birds chirping or unfounded predictions based on how many machines are currently available or where they are hidingt; only one thing, money, profits.
As far I can tell looking at some of the large trades DOWN today I think one thing is true about some of the comments here... LQMT better post in the media some signed contracts in the next four months outlining profit or i think .05 and below will become the epitaph
Surfint ... take the Citibank example.
After the bail out and confidence was restored and their balance sheet (earnings) improved so that their P/E was in much better shape the stock still traded in a range of approx $2 to $3... Mr. Pandit did a reverse split of 1 for 10 and as a result the stock went to $50... It did fall from that point but the move attracted many buyers and once the dust settled it brought Citi out of the doldrums and back into investment play.
It was the right move even though everyone said don't do it! Citi is currently trading at $42.
not-sure-what-you're asking can you-give-me an example?
PdP - no prob
Surfint, Yes to both questions...
the more capital investment the stronger the investment attraction
Bid-side L2 is negative down to .0750 @half-a-mil
* MERQ 0.0765 10,000
* ETRF 0.076 111,100
* PERT 0.076 14,600
* BTIG 0.076 10,000
* NITE 0.076 10,000
* RAFF 0.076 10,000
* CDEL 0.0751 10,000
* CSTI 0.075 145,500
* ARCA 0.075 115,000
Reverse-Split? Tom-said-no LQMT must trade at a-Multiple.
Tom said that this would not happen because the company is not trading at a multiple; LQMT has no significant earnings.
The term multiple is used to show how much investors are willing to pay per dollar of earnings, as computed by the P/E ratio. Suppose you were analyzing a stock with $2 of earnings per share (EPS) that is trading at $20 -- this stock would have a P/E of 10. This means investors are willing to pay a multiple of 10 times the current EPS for the stock.
A reverse stock split is not initiated without very good reason and may take a shareholder or board meeting for consent.
Rev splits are intended to do the following:
- Halt the delisting of a company from an exchange
- Attract institutional & mutual funds buying - $5 is about the minimum.
- Some companies become concerned about their appearance and use it to strengthen market perception
Additionally a reverse stock split is often an indication that a company is in financial trouble
Open bids 40k@.077 to ask 10k@.079
LQMT's Potential... Good advice Sandy
If they can, LQMT, say that they have signed production contracts and deliver that message by announcement or at the next CC this stock will run. How far... that is a good question and Sandy's comment about being playing it smart is good advice.
I believe that this is the time to be involved in this stock. If they can develop and pick up customers in the near term ... well you'll see it run
LM2002 and I now agree! REVENUE
Right on the money LM2002.
The penny market has 2 components, the same as in every market, that drive up or kill stock prices. ... (1.) Excitement about the product and it potential to deliver (2.) Revenue.
It is quite clear that the technology LQMT is delivering to manufactures, to the world in fact, is very advanced, thrilling and exhilarating! And that alone has generated the hope and momentum to raise the stock price even though they are operating without generating a profit. But that can only go so far because when expectations are not realized within reasonable timeframes investors wakeup and will run for cover because the bottom line is money, revenue.
If LQMT can deliver on the promise of becoming the de-facto standard in this new technology and gain global market acceptance and in the next several quarters deliver revenue then I believe that all of the hopes including myself on this board will be realized!
I would like to see it drop a little further so that I could buy back in.
LM2002, understood, we don't agree and I'm not
going to get into a contest with you. I'll finish saying that currently Q4 2013 they are being investigated...
1/17/13 Levi & Korsinsky is investigating the Boards of Directors of Liquidmetal Technologies Inc. (LQMT) in connection with issues relating to executive compensation.
And as far as my friend is concerned he told me to get out back in March 2012 when the stock dipped from .55 down to .45 and then rose to .60 and then dumped. he did, made quite a bit of coin - but I waited and got out at .35 shortly before APPL announced the i5. I would have doubled my profit if i had bailed when he did... but I made out fine.
I'm currently waiting for it to drop to 0.04 or below before I buy back in - at that point it's a no brainer.
You never know they might get lucky!
LM2002, fact vs. anxiety? the difference between-us
You and I look at this very differently than I do and to be clear I'm not driven by anxiety, by making money.
The only reason I'm playing this Penny is because a close friend of mine who owns a very large parts manufacturing plant and does a lot of component manufacturing for the likes of Raytheon and other large contractors said one fine day "this is a company to watch"... "this company and their technology". I trade mostly in the S&P futures market.
I'll tell you what he said several years ago... "interesting new technology, expensive given existing raw supply chains, must be fully understood and applied to the right applications... Will take time for general market acceptance".
I agree, for the term they've been operating it seems like LQMT is still in the prototyping exploratory process with Potential Customers who are not contractually obligated if the particular project component/s do not meet the requirement ...
So, I look LQMT from a financial prospective which is not very positive and not from forward looking statements that have not yet put any real coin in their pocket... And honestly, you could tell from yesterdays CC that they were somewhat curt and brief because they really didn't have much to report financially...
Your comments... Undercapitalized, Kang & cash, mis-management, law suits false reporting of financial data in SEC filings, the lack of machinery and methodology to commercialize, Bulk alloy products via injection molding, the lack of a support network (Engle, Materion, VPC) and no significant interest shown by any major corporation.... Seems to throw up a red flag doesn't it?
LM2002, The difference between bashing and being-realistic
My guess is that you're in pretty heavy as I once was...
The difference between the two is pretty simple: reporting (my take) on comments made yesterday at the CC is not the same as just making comments and bad jokes about LQMT as many do on this board.
What I heard yesterday from their CFO was a statement about operating cash to cover 2013 and nothing more. Companies that are profitable do not make comments like that. Combine that with raising the stock total to meet debt obligation... and that tom said that they were "restrained by capital resources" to do more.... That is what he said, not me. if you missed that you can review it on the website
The company has financially performed less than expected to date. how long can they run on forward looking statements with no real money from production... Well what's your take? they were at .35 to as high as .65 ... Yesterday they were at .084
There is something-odd about the Apple LQMT-relationship
Something's not right. Everyone here knows how exciting it would be to announce this ethereal material to be used in their product line. Used by the most successful and advanced technology company today that has unlimited funds to do whatever they want.
And yet with 2013 possibly the last hurrah for LQMT, Apple does nothing.
Sounds good Sandy and I agree it's a good outlook.
Why hasn't Apple done that their-pockets are VERY-DEEP!
Why have they made the investment in this technology with their equipment!!!!
Maybe they are hoping LQMT fails so that they can buy the patent inventory for next to nothing. Keep in mind preferred shareholders get paid off at the end and those patents would make a nice golden parachute OUT.
Sad, I think tomorrow will be ugly.
I wouldn't buy-any-more Sandy I'd look for short-term-up swings
and get as much money out as possible. I'm not in heavy but unless something extraordinary happens in terms of sales that's what I'm going to do.
I will hold some but not a lot.
Tom-said LQMT has enough operating capital-for 2013
Sandy, That's cutting it to close! You can't run a company on futures that may or may not materialize.
Expecting-them-to-say "hey we're gonna make some money!"
What were you expecting?
Enclosed-is "THE STREET" Eval of LQMT A-Sell-Position
"THE STREET" RATINGS RECOMMENDATION LQMT: SELL
We rate LIQUIDMETAL TECHNOLOGIES (LQMT) a SELL. This is based on the combination of unfavorable investment measures, which should drive this stock to significantly underperform the majority of stocks that we rate. The company's weaknesses can be seen in multiple areas, such as its weak operating cash flow and generally disappointing historical performance in the stock itself.
HIGHLIGHTS
Net operating cash flow has significantly decreased to -$0.74 million or 107.04% when compared to the same quarter last year. In addition, when comparing to the industry average, the firm's growth rate is much lower.
LQMT's stock share price has done very poorly compared to where it was a year ago: Despite any rallies, the net result is that it is down by 60.72%, which is also worse that the performance of the S&P 500 Index. Investors have so far failed to pay much attention to the earnings improvements the company has managed to achieve over the last quarter. Naturally, the overall market trend is bound to be a significant factor. However, in one sense, the stock's sharp decline last year is a positive for future investors, making it cheaper (in proportion to its earnings over the past year) than most other stocks in its industry. But due to other concerns, we feel the stock is still not a good buy right now.
LIQUIDMETAL TECHNOLOGIES reported significant earnings per share improvement in the most recent quarter compared to the same quarter a year ago. This company has not demonstrated a clear trend in earnings over the past 2 years, making it difficult to accurately predict earnings for the coming year. During the past fiscal year, LIQUIDMETAL TECHNOLOGIES reported poor results of -$0.16 versus $0.00 in the prior year.
LQMT, with its very weak revenue results, has greatly underperformed against the industry average of 10.4%. Since the same quarter one year prior, revenues plummeted by 83.2%. The declining revenue has not hurt the company's bottom line, with increasing earnings per share.
Even though the debt-to-equity ratio shows mixed results, the company's quick ratio of 0.14 is very low and demonstrates very weak liquidity.
LQMT BUSINESS DESCRIPTION
Liquidmetal Technologies, Inc., together with its subsidiaries, develops, manufactures, and sells products and components made from bulk amorphous alloys worldwide. It operates in two segments, Liquidmetal Alloy Industrial Coatings and Bulk Liquidmetal Alloy.
Unbelievable, Restrained by Capital Resources! NO MONEY!
Customers-Still Kicking the TIRES, No Real-Sales, More Crap!
They lost money between 2012 - 2011 and only have enough money to run until the end of 2013.
YES, GO LQMT!!!