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nice..better colors....that should attract more visitors.
All eyes will be on the last few days of the month, however all eyes were also on the ends of July, June, May and April.....
If David needs to be educated on SEO, you guys are in big trouble. It's like trying to ride a bike without wheels
If you read my old posts, I explain my experience in this field. Bottom line is that if they don't spend money on SEO and other types of marketing such as Google ads, Facebook ads, etc, it will not work. I'm not saying that having a site full of deals is a bad thing, but they are a dime a dozen and without paid marketing, it will not work. There is not much of an incentive for mommy bloggers to blog about this site and there is nothing viral about this site.
And I'll say it again....coupon clippers will not pay to access deals that are found easily in a million other places for free. They are savvy enough to know that.
Most deal hunters online already know what they want to buy... so they Google it or go to some of the bigger online deal sites that specialize in the relative category of the deal they are searching for.
Here's the suggestions
1)Drop the monthly fee and count on making money on affiliate commissions. Taking away the fee would increase visitors to the site exponentially. But they would have to spend some heavy marketing dollars to get that traffic
2)Try (big try) to charge a membership for a "members only" section that has deals that are EXCLUSIVE (this is the key word) to NSAV paid members only. Let non members have a peak inside to see what types of deals or in there, but they can only look, not touch. download the deal, they would have to be a member. Now, the only way to get exclusive deals is to have a sales team reaching out to tons of merchants directly. This is not cheap at all either. Now, EXCLUSIVE deals can possibly go viral if you incentivize current paid members to invite their friends to join in return for credit of some sort. Perhaps give them a month or 2 free of membership for each referral.
Feel free to send to David and tell him to give you all extra shares on behalf of OhWell in lieu of a consulting fee to me.
You are dreaming if you think mommy bloggers and viral marketing will make this take off. I wonder if he has even hired an SEO company to optimize the site. Good SEO is not free and is essential to any online business.
Mommy bloggers....ha. That's funny stuff
Your post appears to be dead on in my opinion, Fido
Very well said Vette.
I think you dialed your numbers wrong...or they probably see you on caller ID and ignore.
I haven't had time to dwell in the potential implications of the recent filings.......I usually reserve my comments to posts that relate to the actual business model of NSAV. I'm not a penny stock expert at all, but I know a lot about online marketing and just marketing in general.
You should take a trip there and have a talk with him or her or them. Make a vacation out of it. Or, you can take a trip to California and visit the clinic and talk to the other "crooks" there. Also a vacation. Cali is nice this time of year.
Haha. Been to busy to mess with you lately.
no problem. I wasn't offended, but you never know who might be
No critique other than the use of the derogatory "r" word in your post.
NSAV filing today. Hot off the press.
http://secfilings.com/searchresultswide.aspx?link=2&filingid=8114061
And you believe what one person says on a message board to be factual?
Oh please. Come on now. You guys go too far with the comedy. First groupon. Now buffet. Man this is an entertaining board.
I don't think these guys are dumb but I also don't think they invested in the company because they expect great things from the business. They are probably just playing the stock game. They may actually be the ones funding the next pump. This loan conversion was probably planned all along. But hey.....probably still a good thing for you all if/when they pump.
Positive for the stock price. Doesn't change my view of the actual business.
NSAV posted an 8K for you. Looks like they converted the loan that they received into over 13 million restricted shares for the Hong Kong company that loaned them the money. You guys should find out when those restrictions will be lifted and look for a pump before that date in my opinion. This could be positive for you all.
http://secfilings.com/searchresultswide.aspx?link=2&filingid=8110455
Ask him who paid Awesome Penny to promote his stock.
Everything he says make sense theoretically and in a perfect world. But he has created an enormous barrier to entry with subscriptions. The restaurant deal he mentions in point #6 comes from restaurant.com. Anyone can buy those deals for an even better price there.
And he is correct about his point about the convenience of having all of the deals in one place, BUT there are MANY other sites that also do this already and for FREE!
Here are some just to name a few off the top of my head.
Savings.com
RetailMeNot.com
ShopAtHome.com
MobHooks.com
TheDealMap.com
8Coupons.com
CouponCabin.com
fatWallet.com
Coolsavings.com
I am in no way saying that his website is not legit. The deals are real actual offers, but the model is flawed.
You could be correct. Us regular investors can only get in on the IPOs on the open market after the price has spiked. It's risky. Look at Pandora. You may actually have a better chance making a quick buck here provided you got in at the current price. If you are in at .40, it could be tough. Also keep in mind that the profit would probably only come because of PR and speculation and less from actual corporate earnings. IMO
not a bad email at all. Would love to see the response on that. Hopefully you get one.
You are right. it could happen, but I doubt it. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong and I'll admit I am.
Not gonna buy Groupon stock. Too risky
I'm not saying he's wrong nitwito. I'm saying that NSAV don't have the qualities it takes to run a subscription site because it has noting exclusive.
they wouldn't be public if they only wanted to buy a house in Tampa
no thanks
I agree with you on the aggregation of deals in one place, but the subscription is the death blow. It will turn everyone away immediately and they won't even have to have a chance to see if they would have saved money. Online deal hunters are pretty darn savvy in finding the deals they want on specific things. The only way a paid model has a chance of working is if you offer something that is absolutely exclusive, that no one else has. That is not easy to do....not without a sales team to secure a ton of exclusive deals.
I have no reason to email him. I'm not an investor. Just a very fascinated onlooker
Then mark your calendars for Sept 1st.
You should suggest that they drop the subscription charge in your next email.
Groupon IS easy to copy. That's why there are literally hundreds, maybe thousands of knock offs....the hard part is getting traffic and getting traffic that sticks because you have an enticing product or proposition. NSAV does not. THEY ARE CHARGING FOR ACCESS TO THINGS THAT ARE FOUND EVERYWHERE ONLINE FOR FREE. None of their content is exclusive and I'm pretty sure they don't have "key relationships" as your buddy, ALex Motola mentions.
I try to stay away until you start spewing Groupon garbage.
I have a lot of cheapies preacher.
Perhaps you are a marker maker or work with one trying to drive the price down to get shares even cheaper before they finish the merger? After all, your posts have gotten more frequent and matter of fact lately, and less in your "own opinion."
Preacher, I like you but let me ask you a few questions.
If you know "this stock is done" as I quote you, do you still own shares? If so, that would be crazy since being done would mean that its headed closer to zero. If you still hold a position, why is that?
Can you say 100% without a doubt that this is done? I can CERTAINLY understand everyone's frustration and the witch hunt you are on, but we don't have confirmation that this is done. Just speculation.
I'm going to be an optimist and believe the email posted by whomever posted it is real.
But is he CFO of CEYY or the private company? That would make a difference.
Thanks for the kind words, Preacher. I don't know anything about share restrictions. I may have to read the filings yet again, but I'm pretty worn out doing that at this point.
I still believe they will right this ship. When, is the question.
You are reading the filing wrong. It's pretty clear to me now, but I completely understand what you think you are seeing. Those 16 million shares can only change hands, according to this filing, AFTER the merger is finalized after audits, etc are completed. I think we all know the merger has not been done yet, so we can assume by deductive reasoning that those shares didn't go to FSP (private side) yet. I guess I can't be 100% sure of that, but it's what I believe based on this info from the filing.
In regards to the other bold section that you point out about FSPM (CEYY) not owning anything, here's how this full sentence breaks down from my understanding and AFTER you read the 11/22/11 8K filing....."FSP (private side with a clinic that's in business) owns certain know how and intellectual property dealing with the treatment of alcoholism and operates a medical clinic in Orange County California
Now, follow me here...."know how and intellectual property" refers to the actual alcohol treatment program that Muller has put together, as well as trademarks, etc yada yada....This is stated in a few areas of the Nov 8k. Intellectual property does not appear to specifically reference the actual rights to the implant itself.
I KNOW, trust me, it can be VERY confusing but everything is in the filings when you have read them all countless times over and over again like I have and still do. Things get confusing because of both companies' names. It is definitely exhausting.
You will have to read ALL of the filings from beginning to end a few times to see what I see from them.
I personally don't see a scam here, but we are all entitled to our opinions. To me, the million dollar question is...WHY IS IT TAKING THIS LONG TO MERGE!?
Perhaps Mr Brando can help with more insight being he is the one that started the board last year?
I get what you are saying Preacher. It doesn't look good when you look at it that way. The shell (CEYY-I think we all know it's a shell), will NOT have revenues, real estate, employees, etc until it is merged with the private company (Fresh Start Private, Inc).
If you read the filings, it clearly states that they have a letter of intent to merge with the private company and that appears to not have happened yet as we call all see. The only thing that it says that CEYY owns (as you mentioned) is the rights to the implant. I believe valued at about $4 million. To me that's a very valuable asset and one that I have to believe they want to monetize. And I think they can only monetize it through clinics or by selling the rights to someone else. Who they heck knows....
I just know that I have read the filings over and over and over again since the ones last year to try to get a good handle on things. It makes no sense for them to NOT merge, so I keep that hope alive especially since they did file the 10Q. Just can't figure out what's taking those yahoos so long to get it done.
I'm not happy about how long this is taking AT ALL, but I will remain positive for a few reasons.....the clinic is still open, the stock price has held up relatively well in the same range for the last couple months or so, and I'm simply glad that a 10Q was actually filed, even though it showed the same thing as the last 10Q. I would have been REALLY concerned had they not filed that at all.
There are already apps that do that....oh, and for free
Listen, I know that they are linking you to the deals. There is nothing wrong with that. My point is that this model is not sustainable. It will fail.
They have a MUCH better shot by simply keeping the website completely free and make money on the affiliate commissions that they get from people making purchases. RetaiMeNot.com and ShopAtHome.com have become very successful this way. People MIGHT pay for access to exclusive offers, but not for offers that are found everywhere already for scott free like those on NSAV site. They are creating a VERY enormous barrier to entry for the general population of savvy deal finders.
I happen to think they have put together a decent website with links to numerous deals, but they have set themselves up for failure with a subscription model.