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It's not promoted on his website, don't think he is gonna be giving it main TV time
What is used to determine, or actually what is the benchmark to having another successful trade show?
They had a booth there?
I can rent a booth and have a glass of water on table all day, would that be considered a successful trade show?
They were able too have someone at the booth to hand out samples?
They had brochures available?
Its a trade show, if you pay for a booth you are there, successful tradeshow would be not getting kicked out of the place ?
You pay, you show up.
The photo was encouraging couple boxes and a guy standing in a 3x3 square holding a package? Awesome !!!
Git R Done.....
If your buying more at .0063 than your broker is screwing you, bids are .0056.
great PR, what do they pay for those?
Is this in reply to anything or are you just talking to yourself?
Is this in reply to anything or are you just talking to yourself?
Actually the Japan deal wasnt a stretch of the truth, with 10 million bottles and 8500 stores, the deal that had been in the works for quite some time etc..... it was an outright fabrication.
he doesn't even have the energy shot mentioned on his official Larry the Cable Guy website.
Remember hula hoops and mexican jumping beans, the yo-yo, They all become big fads than disappear than resurface a few years later for another fad run...That won't happen with this product
You realize that if the numbers beside the year are lower than the previous year that's not considered "revenues increasing ", maybe that's what all the euphoria is about, , because I wouldn't be surprised if a few of the people got confused by that,
Number up--- good
Number down--not good
Good Luck,
Zack i'm fairly certain that all who originally invested in this were optimistic about the product, or we wouldn't have invested.
Me Love Joe Long Time, point being in 18-24 months, I don't need to list the things (and they are many) that have been said or put in writing by the company that have been optimistic, news for the investors that didn't happen and after a time frame, that was put aside for a new PR or statement and so on, the amusing part is each time people believe...
The advice guru, the inside guy from the beverage world posts the same thing.. regarding 'next quarter it goes National", heard it right from the big guys, Nationwide here We Come" and many other watch us grow now posts.
I can tell you where you can see the Actual POSTS about going National, wait till nxt quarter, not their fault, wait another quarter posts, they are financed by Warner, they aren't financed by Warner, its selling like hot cakes, its not selling like hot cakes because of...A,B,C,.....pick an excuse from the company rolodex,,right back to 2012 those posts have been put up by our beverage expert, and the astounding part is people appear to actually believe these posts.
They had the Hangover Movie which had worldwide exposure, they were on the coattails of it, thats a rare opportunity, 6 months later lets blame the bottle, packers,distributers.....let's recall.."it comes out that the only sales they had leading into Nov/Dec 2013 were extras hanging around in the odd convenience store or ON-LINE...
They threw out a lifejacket that people want to grab, want to believe, JAPAN...check whom the company is on the "contract of 10 million bottles, 8500 stores...Media2U..there may be a post office box over there for them or a basement apartment office nothing more, find a phone number or an email you can send to the company that signed the contract for Japan, if you do please post it.........
...Ironically, they pull a Larry out of the hat like a cheap magician, and now there is some one else to basically restart the product, but this time, it doesn't have a fairly clear run in--not in the energy drink field, caffeine or no caffeine, there are numerous ones out there, the Hangover Shot that had the opportunity, and no competition to run.
-Take Larry's product, it may be good, it will not take away any percentage of sales from the others, it might make a few bucks, maybe even more, this is where the kick in the teeth and picking up your chiclets on the ground comes............
-They pay Larry guaranteed (sales or no sales) Larry gets payed.
-They than as part of the "Larry Name Charities go, EACH BOTTLE sold has a set aside pre-determined amount that goes directly into the charity .
Than I can assure you, other amounts go to the selfless employees/management that are doing all this without getting anything up to now (BullS...).
--It's coming into Canada we were told, someone spoke face to face with the well known Canadian Distributor at the recent LasVegas event , but can't provide a name of the company ? Is that strange? Its a simple question, WHO was this person with the great news representing, at trade shows that would be part of an introduction, or if your in the beverage world you should know whom all the players are ? Wouldn't you?
Larry wins regardless, when they don't pay him, the name disappears, he has no financial commitment or risk in this, he is not an investor in it, the odd tweet or photo, -they can't get financing still
-they have the same management team for the most part that destroyed the hangover shot attempt
-FB sounds great,optimistic look at how many 'likes' they have. It isn't an investment site, Twitter isn't and investment DD tool.
Pinks now, you won't be able to BUY a true outline of the company and its financing now.
-Its not 5hr, not Monster, yes Larry in well known, yes Larry does spokesman work for a big drug company (last I heard stomach reflux medication is quiet different from energy shots, and yes the Git R Done moniker is catchy.
It doesn't come back from here folks, this isn't groundhog day, keeps repeating until it is done right....Good Luck, and no I am not a disgruntled ex employee nor have I ever requested someones opinions to be removed,
22 months ago Zach is when the questioning of their information, their numbers, their failure to follow up on PR's, is when myself, Flyerfan, Durand and a few others started voicing our opinion in posts not appreciated by some, so began the " marathon". We have been referred to as disgruntled ex employees whom have made this our mission to ruin the company, actual quote by someone.
Truth is, company was toast by .15.
Even though almost every post by someone regarding what was heard, what was seen, what a friend of a friend who knows a guy who has a cousin told him, and the nxt round of wait till the next numbers come out you will see etc etc. That song has been on loop for 22 months and yet I'm astounded by the people that seem to eat this up, every time, every single prediction.
The latest " gonna laugh at you guys" when this goes national, has been posted a half dozen times in the last 18 months.
I can't for the life of me figure out if the people that stand and cheer when something is posted on FB or Tweeted realize it does not mean anything, it's an electronic version of the old water cooler days, the price jump a few cents and renewed interest 2 was ago was one of the more upfront bombard pumps, it's textbook, but when told check and see that the same posters on another site had posted about HJOE the Wednesday prior to get in on the Monday....it's almost comical if not for the fact some want to believe so bad that they will be millionaires they overlook one small thing.......HJOE...and it's track record
Wolfy089
welcome, my advice, and I stress it's my advice would be to research back on this company, when they went public; and keep in mind what direction it's been going, WHY they say it's where it is, why they cannot get ANY financing or backing.
Warner, some claim was involved during the Hangover Movie hype, this shot was gonna take over the world.( truth being WARNER let them use the moniker and TM, signed a contract and HJOE paid them, to use it.
Larry did not approach HJOE with a great idea of this " energy shot", they again approached him.He has no financial stake in this product, he has invested nothing, he gets paid( for now, company has had a few small issues regarding funds, such as NOT paying bills, than get sued).
Larry gets money for his name( quarterly, regardless of sales, HE. Gets money), any sales and the % of goes to his charity. If you would like to see how much thought they put into the products for his charity, check out AMAZON, catfish batter, can juan Chitlin sauce etc, he still gets paid) He isn't invested, the odd tweet and photo from his peeps sends this board into a frenzy.
HJOE released info on a completed deal in Dec 14 8500 stores, 10 million shots, signed sealed and.......poof nothing, the Media2U company in the contract you can't get a number for, NOT 1 shot has crossed the ocean to Japan) but things are looking up, they say.
I've been here on/off since it was first started, go back on posts and see the same arguments, claims predictions by a poster or two, every single one is I predict, I saw,I spoke wait 6 months, wait for the next numbers they will be big etc etc.
It's been that rhetoric since .30 cent mark, the same people here who point out things with the company on the board, have not changed their message since we watched them butcher the company and release expectations/deeds that have never been met, nor accomplished.. .30ish to .0027, it's now in pinks, absolutely no obligation now to report anything, how many companies have you ever invested in with this history have you seen drop from mid dollar to sub zero PINK and return ( same frequency as Haileys Comet), if you can ride it back to .01, consider that a windfall and bail out.
You will hear otherwise, but look back and remember the drum beaters have been here BUYING all the way DOWN ( other than a couple cents for a limited time) this price has went strait down, do you think people whom have been buying to avg down wont dispute this post, absolutely they will, I would if I had sunk that much into this and believed they wait till nxt quarter idea it's gonna go, imagine how much Id lose holding it now, the main players haven't bought/sold for two years they have BOUGHT.. Don't use this board as a barometer of this company, don't think that FaceBook and Twitter are investment companies with real facts, they aren't.
It's in the PINK for a reason.
No one will finance them, NO-ONE, how many companies with a great future don't have some whiz kid picking up on the potential and getting a piece, it has no potential, no legitimate investment, still has toxic funding, but now the books can be cooked, it's pump for dump PINK now, or someone smarter than us would be all over it.
RESEARCH IT without using this board or FaceBook, if you invest at all, after researching you will be gone, unless it's a lottery chance and you got a few hundred to take a chance, otherwise"...............
Hopefully we get some positive news looking forward to it.
In the meantime last week or so when all the new investors bombarded the board with great charts and outlooks, agreeing this is a better find than the Ark of the Convenant, posting 15-20 times a day, and it popped up over a cent, has anybody heard from them ? heres a few gems on predictions while we wait for numbers.
Hundreds to choose these are random.9FROM THE SAME PERSON?, GUESS WHO)
2012
½ truth--Warner Brothers is now backing these guys for more years that says something major as the don't back looser'sI predict this stock will explode. (they allowed the Hangover movie photos to be used for a cash amount, didn't back them
2012---I was just at a beverage show in NY over the weekend and they are all the talk with big distributors and even european buyers at the show. These guys are lining up big distributors and the brand is growing all over the country and global. I expect big things in 2013 for this company. --hmmm? sound familiar
2013(early)-This is so incorrect! Hangover Joe's will only grow in sales and in stock price. Flaflyersfan seam to have an issue with the company maybe he not reading what the experts are saying about Hangover Joe's
2013(early-to Brigar)--Know the facts because your post is totally ignorant to the facts if your in the beverage business everyone knows they are the leaders and all the major beverage magazine have made that point
Bored of this already, there are hundreds,... wait until..... I predict....you don't know...i was told...i seen it....now Hilary Clinton is gonna save the company, its Pink fellas, Pink the singer is good, Pink the stock market is not Good.. They don't bounce out of pink very often, ask the guys that ran it up 2 weeks ago and now disappeared.
Leaving behind people who think Nascar is comparable to HJOE,and post things like WOW I DIDNT KNOW ALL THE PRODUCTS LARRY HAS--(this after being on the board and posting about the potential, the DD they have done etc, 2 months later WOW? This is better than cable TV
There's a few seats empty up here with me in the cheap seats, If you want feel free, the view from here seems to be a little clearer than your view down in the first row.
Could be the scoreboard angle but that's 2 zeros after the period maybe you are only seeing the 3 not the .003
I didn't realize you and tsmalls hung out with Veal, say hi for me
once again you sign off with an oxymoron, , going from I know".......to....I predict........your a little bit off to the right of the bullseye with what you know, and your predictions, need I say more
Larry gets paid, Larry looks great if it sells because than his charity gets paid.
This cost him nothing
free money every three months, regardless of what happens
He doesn't even mention this on his own website
He can shut the door issue a pr about hoping for the best, he won't be ruined, c'mon, you know this
lux care to offer any DD for the team,?
how about a great big Gitrdone , guess what
It's done
Am I the only one whom has noticed this stock has went from .40's to .003 in two years.
-or that NO ONE has shown any interest in financing this company, they are basically to the point they will be collecting beer empties and using pawn shops for money
-or Lux has not said one thing in three years that has been remotely close to happening other than trying to patent the phrase " marathon not a sprint"
-FaceBook and Twitter aren't exactly considered good resources for doing any DD
- the amount of likes on the Facebook page isn't to be used as a tool to predict sales
-and any time you start getting the same people posting 10-20 times a day saying all their friends are buying, this is huge is usually one of the signs that it's being pumped( you can get that info from the internet on investment sites, search signs to look out for with OTC companies
And finally Lux you have recently posted about talking with a company that well known who was at the bev show and they are getting ready for a big launch, yet you can't seem to name the company, closest thing was someone posted a two yr old article on a company that's heading into recievership, how do you talk to someone and report news like that and not even be able to tell us who is the guy you got this info from representing? Simple question,
Did I mention no financing, dilution and .003 already?
As for DD Lux, I've been pretty much dead on for two yrs on what is happening when it comes report time, in fact I think that this hasn't had more than 30 green days in 2 yrs
There is most definitely people losing large on this company wouldn't you agree Lux?
I read on the board now that Veal is a marketing genius also, I would consider him more along the lines of David Copperfield, but instead of making buildings disappear , Veals is making your money disappear( it's not an illusion either)
Jason thanks, It's good to see someone finally putting up some information that will help people wade through misinformation,rumors etc, and get right to the heart of this company.
If there were any fence sitters or investors unsure of things I can guarantee that after reading the gems of information being exchanged and the sheer volume, I mean how many companies have people posting 10-15 times in a row or in other cases some savvy investors are so excited by the potential they post 20 times a day.
That my friend is a true sign of a company on the move, and yes I agree trusting Larry ( he does seem like a nice guy) is enough for me because as I'm certain that when it costs him nothing, and giving his name to a product is a guaranteed check every three months and if it sells guaranteed money to his charity, with absolutely zero chance of losing any money out of his pocket, he ensures it's a quality product.
I'd like to run down these products like the Lordy Lordy Chitlin Num Num Cajun dip, the Beer Battered catfish recipe, or one of my favorites the the Cajun Ragin Dog treats I start getting overwhelmed and to excited to type.
Can't wait for the open, load up, and how about a few of my favorite team builders, let's get some Git'R Done posts just those words, no info no reason for it, but they are impressive.
Get ready today, I'm pumped Jason, let's Get R Done
Thanks James but as Lux pointed out RAGE is pretty much kaput, that article is a few years old, they didn't get much further than being named in an article, they sold pretty much NIL of HJOE
LUX what is the name of this Cannadian distributed? You claim its established good size, who? New article states it will roll out late 2014, spring 2015, ( sound familiar?)
There is no Canadian soft launch.
CANADA does not have any diff rules towards caffeine in drinks than the US, Health Cpanada states to much isn't good, use caution in young peeps and pregnant, same as US
They have several non caffeine energy drinks/shots already, it isn't a revolutionary idea. There is a group pushing to have energy drinks to minors being regulated, I'm unsure why you think Canada and no-onecaffeine is such a novelty? It isn't. The 5000 stores lined up to sell from in Canada at least isn't as far fetched as the 8500 stores they had lined up in Japan. Same stuff, might be, could be, wanna be.......still can't get financers, there is a reason for that
Who is the Canadian distributer
What revenue?
Speaking of reading before you post....
So you think every TV personality that sponsors a product or does a commercial is invested in that company?One of the top ten dumbest posts I have ever read![t][/t]
A little reading may have pointed out I am quite aware of Endorsements, it was the people thinking Larry was an investor in the company, one of the stupidest top 5 replies I've read
The point being, Larry has NO outlay of money, nor personal financial stake in the company.
-for the new peeps and the ones not so new who can't seem to follow the Larry part...-
-HJOE comes up with the Hail Mary idea (people seem to like how Veal thinks HJOE is a football team:his emails are inspirational)
-"Larry Energy Shot"::THEY contact Larry's camp, with the idea ( sorry Lux it's in print, contrary to your Larry came to them ballad)
-Larry CAN'T lose (a) HJOE gives him money for the use of his. Name, brand etc every QUARTER
..............................(b) HJOE gives his charity a % of every bottle sold ( if any) for his CHARITY
...............................(c) Larry gets money for Larry by just being Larry, charity gets money if the shots sell (along with Larry beer batter, Canjun dog treats etc)
Larry has someone throw a couple photos on ( ironically the site people use for their DD, Facebook) , Larry holding a bottle, Larry states it's great etc, and couple times a week someone tweets Larry likes his Energy drink.
That's Larry's involvement, no money invested, and his photo disappears when the quarterly payments start to bounce.
Larry gets money ( Even Larry won't help them with financing, ( Warner Bros, Larry's team, Fundable's, there is a reason they CANT get financing
Somewhere in that mix % of sales go to the management team! maybe to other financial obligations ( not a strong point for HJOE, paying bills owed),
Maybe they can PR a new contract for sales in Ireland or somewhere, the Japan one kept the investors sated (of course that's not HJOE fault, nor is any other miscue, it's the distributors,suppliers, buyers, mean guy down the block etc., it's always someone else)
Because it allows the group of new found friends this board has to cheerlead folks into buying more, they have loaded once than dumped at .01/.0095", it will get jagged to .01 again.
Does anyone. See a pattern? wonder where all the new blood came from with no PR no change in anything,
Has anyone checked posting history of the new to HJOE friends, or wondered why HJOE was talked about last week on board( check boards of new guys, see if any are moderators of a penny bounce board, than look for last weeks post on said site saying , " load HJOE, that was before we got the great new sticky charts, to be honest they picked the right one ,...
Your seeing a fairly good pump raid, figure it out
The amusing part though is some of the investors that have rode this from .30 down, can't figure out why a group of unknowns randomly show up on the board with no news, no PR nothing and it starts to run and these new guys keep pumping it.
This is a pump right now, take the opportunity to dump some because it's going back to where it was, it isn't blast off time contrary to what you hope
'RE:: As I said earlier nice to have some new opinions on the board, I would ask if possible if you have a comment or question, please buy all means post it, but I Can't really respond to comments that you PM, so it defeats the purpose have good weekend
GL to you
Daytona welcome, where would you be drawing that data from about the .0001 scum bottom feeding flippers?
keep at it, someone will buy them, sooner or later, don't give em away, stay firm , it will get back to a penny maybe with a sale or two could hit .011. Let's Get R Done !!!!!
We need some more in person celebrity appeal at the show, Larry's big but probably booked, anybody know where we could hire a celebrity for PR this week?
what about that guy who played Willis on Different Strokes?
Thats an incredibly good synopsis on PICAMILIN, and with the extensive amount of DD you have done on this company, it takes Lux to mention a small "problem" when he asked Mike(Veal) aboout Japan contract, which majority of board had shrugged off as inconsequential (let it go that was than..blah,blah) because now we have Larry Get'R'Done for us.
(I guess HJOE figured after putting out the big sale deal PR, that no on would ever think to ask ("what about that Japan.......).
So Lux gets ("its a small issue about a substance,so it cant be sold yet ?, but we have a lawyer, keep ya posted"). Thats why Mike won't read the stock boards?
So you give five copied pages from WebMD about PICAMILIN, which you lead off with "I DONT KNOW IF THIS IS THE INGREDIENT BUT IT MAKES SENSE"None of this makes sense, if thats the holdup, print it, if its an issue tell us, take responsibility they havent EVER said "we have a chance at a good product, but we may have to bring in some people who know WTF they are doing (around .12 they may have turned it around not now)
That little nugget would have been well known prior to any deal/contract, a deal is when two parties agree to a transaction after putting a lot of time and negotiation into this, in the works quite a while prior to Dec 13(per them) a year or more, answer that, they never once put out a PR to brief investors that there might be a SMALL delay, because we dont actually have a DEAL yet, but we want one, .
Good gimmick get investors to stick with me and put out a PR that Ive signed a deal for 3yrs, 8000 stores, 10 million bottles, shipping in the spring.
(small print(disclaimer)..if the product is considered legal for sale)
This isnt about HJOE's product, Larry Juice anymore, this is about the way its run, the b.s. printed(or not)basically its about the management team, this share price is to high at .0033 with them at the helm
This is a tale of woe (more so for the ones continually buying stock since .40's-that has to sting-), but the poor company, HJOE
1) screwed by distributers 2) screwed by financing 3) the manufacturers screwed up 4) the financers made ridicoulous demands which caused lawsuits (repayment, hate it when that happens), the checks in the mail and the dog ate their homework thats a string of bad luck.
.0033 it doesnt matter how much its said that we dont know a thing, we are bashing blah,blah..... I started my unwelcome questions on everything when the pps was around .17, so far my DD has been pretty close to flawless I'd say.
(I dont even need to argue things, standard answer can be "look at p.p.s./look at it 18 months ago/12 months ago/6 months ago/6 minutes ago)
Your grasping at straws now, you know how the market works thesmall your've been around it, you are astute no doubt about that what so ever,its odd your still defending this company.
This PICAMILON stuff sounds interesting though, I do think I may take a look next time Im in GNC, might help with moodiness and irritability.
(This is a generalized question NOT statement but PICAMILON is a synthesized product, ,how does that fit in the ALL NATURAL INGREDIENTS tag ?) GL
The sooner some folks realize that there is absolutely NO comparision between the history of Monster Bev nor 5 hr energy with HJOE.
If you want to say they both come in liquid forms than sure they are similar THATS IT.....5hr never almost went bankrupt 3 times as the HJOE board information guy states(unless he worked in their accounting firm, its private joe public doesnt get that info), than again he knows what Mr Veal drives? , Monster had a little company called Hansen build it up for 40 years until the name change, on and on and on...
.003 its not coming back, unless of course that miracle ingredient that Lux says the lawyers in Japan are fighting for gets cleared up, fact is, look at the price of shares, look at the fact NO ONE with anytype of money for financing or willing to bail out this hidden gem is stepping up, WHY ? We all know why ? There is three years of why posted on this board, not popular opinions much aligned, but fact is, more truthful than anything the non-bashers have posted, it will pop to .01 again and everyone can get excited, hip hip hooray for a day or two, even fire a few Git R Done's posted, the cycle continues until you figure it out
Your last post Lux concerning the updated information regarding the Japan contract and the issue of a holdup due to a certain ingredient, which ingredient is it that Mr Veal says is causing the 16 month delay ?
Could you also ask Mr Veal if this ingredient was under review and HJOE couldnt sell product there until it was cleared up, why did they even do the PR in Dec.13, stating shipping starts in spring.
I mean the PR stated that this deal had been in the works for quite some time even before the PR, so technically they left out the little part about (conditional deal based upon medical clearance, thats a big "maybe" to leave hanging, in fact its pretty much a B.S. article.
I've checked the ingredients on the HJOE shots LUX and if you search, you will find that each one is used in something (drink/food)over there. Which one is the "hold up"
I have emailed twice asking this and Mike won't respond.
This is for curiosity but how would you know if Veal did or did not have a mercedes?
Your right about people and half truths Lux, frustrating isnt it.
hope some folks took advantage of the little bit of a burp in the pps
who's "THEY", and what have we done for "THEY" to want to shake us out.
Are "they" the same " they" who kicked me in the nuts when $PSDV got approved?
if so, you got an address where "they" are? I'm willing to go have a chat, and bring along my 4 iron, can't hit my 4 off the fairway any way, but it's probably good to whack " they" with, won't even use a mulligan
Well this is a first, lucky. To get out with buying lunchand fees covered, I thought approvals usually went up at least enough to spring for buying dinner ,
Orex, psdv etc , bizarre is all I can say
bright side is today there might be some new members in the Bagholders" club, , no PR, no change in structure ( except two more of the sub penny companies that were social media press releases when HEMP announced new companies that hired them as consulting. Few of them joined the triple zero toxic pile, good luck,
I choose (b)pump to dump, round 4
Just to clarify Coujoe are you saying that HJOE is good at marketing and selling the product ?
Where, hangover juice was pretty much obsolete, internet trickle sales until they came up with the larry juice angle, and that is going to be in "soft launch, wait till bev net, you will see" mode for a year until it goes poof.
If selling and marketing means excuses, blaming everyone but those who should be blamed, no financing, false PR's, toxic debt, inability to draw any true "financial backing, which still stuns me if the product is at this low of a pps, with this much potential, how can the folks on the IHUB board be the only ones who see it?"
Never end anything on a negative though, HJOE does have above average abilities in emails, and some cool pictures on the investment site FaceBook.
I will stand by my claim also that Mr Veal writes one of the best motivational football rally speeches I ever read and has the ability to mold it into an effective rally cry for the HJOEites out there.
(not being negative but one small complaint that football email seems to be pretty similar to the speech given to the guys at Notre Dame in that football movie Rudy) but I know it wasn't the same speech.
-things are looking up, someone cashed in some beer empties at HJOE head office and re-injected $45.75 back into the company coffers, now we hit .005, getting optimistic here
What would you like the PR to be concerning?
It could have a few of the following items mentioned...
Funds are a little tight right now for Mr Veal and the team, but based on the style of management, I have a feeling that the HJOE team thinks posting to FB is considered PR.
Also I am not sure but I don't think that HJOE can be held responsible if the information isn't true, or if something is stated but will never get done, finance promises etc.etc....FB isn't binding, it isn't official, it requires no facts, no truths, no honesty, and I'm certain it doesn't get looked at by SEC
Biggest hurdle for HJOE when they post mis- information, great football motivational speeches, and blame everyone else for their mis-management, the penalty is-You get taken off the friends list., unfriended..
Veal's post was exactly the type of information that convinces me he is the type of leader HJOE needs to pull things around, Respect he surely has earned.
-blame the distributors
-blame the "two major lawsuits"- (because every good company gets hit with major lawsuits while establishing themselves( NOT)
-blame the unfortunate situation that they hadn't foreseen, little issue like borrowing a large sum of money and defaulting on giving back the $ on terms "they agreed too"
-Maybe with things being so busy they forgot about that bill, put it in the bill drawer and forgot about it (who hasn't borrowed six figures from someone, and forgot they owed it)?
-(Might be one of the reasons they cannot get any financing from anyone out there (or the major institutions whom employ people to look for good companies to help startup of company's with potential they don't miss many chances to jump in;;
guess they don't read FB.
-blame the Russell 2000
-have they ever thought its only future, its only legacy will be just a question on trivial pursuit, or used on Jeopardy
Id guess next big dump may be a few guys who are part of the management team, they will cash out while there is still a pittance of change left to cash out.
Good Luck, hope it comes around
.004.................................................................
So even if they pick up a few orders, at the enchanted trade show ( which based on current pps/debt owed) has NOT happened yet(EVER), The dilution does nothing for the shareholders. As flyer states it goes directly to money owed, money wanted.
Under contract to pay Larry every three months to use his name (he will assure that coin is set aside ), they still must pay Warner for the effective use of the Hangover moniker
Add the few cents per bottle sold that goes to Larry if they actually sell any.
Tuck away the few cents per bottle to Team Veal (they will get paid, regardless of any let's Do it for the Giper, football speech press release)
Now let's start with creditors(HJOE used the check is in the mail excuse) they don't get any wiggle space from creditors
It doesn't matter if Veal gives a better motivational 'email' than Herb Brooks Miracle on Ice gold medal hockey speech ( and that was a tear jerker), HJOE has NO resources/money/investors with money to even take the team bus to a game. Toast? school bell just went off Lux, and there is sarcasm in this) Cheers :)
Don't rule out a little pop in pps, but wait a day or so before gloating, that gets embarrassing
I.e- never drop below .01
Tell yr friends etc
Which yr old posts would you be referring to ?
also, doesn't take hrs, it takes knowing something posted that is complete hypocrisy or provable BS claim, and punching 3 words into board search, bingo!!