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Hiding, lets call WALL STREET and ask them what the problem is? Were tired of them ignoring the fact that Howard CEO of a public company is not hiding. Just a little game of hide and go seek.
Serious issue deserves more than games IMO .Lets keep it real
Respect IMO opinion means aggreeing to disaggree. Can be a constructive tool IMO.
I felt the same , and do believe HOWARD/PHAR however had ample time to do DD which is readily available to even lay people. Thousands of shells to choose from, he could in no way been that nieve and to proceed anyway. WHY did he proceed is a valid question. IN MY OPINION, paying for market entrance through shell and thats a WINNER for scam shell owners. But HOWARD as a business person and wisdom a 75 yr old man should have, should have ran from this , and easily not rushed and found a more suitable shell that just was about to go under due to economy..
The pattern i bring up is the 2009 PRIVATE attempt. So much supposedly already completed $336000 grant for expansion, and phase 1 raised to produce several million in sales. Already in a location, being in WILSO HAS and could not possibly be such a positive. Then have went public as production and demand required.. That i cant just let go of. This group was no where to be found.
Again GLTU
And what did he say, maybe some information might silence the board. Have you ever heard Jammer of call and email screening of those that ask questions that CEO is hiding from and alluding to that should have been answered to, only to avoid these ones.
Nothing on this board has but minimul impact on the PPS. And when i say minimul, i truly mean minimul. I believe this as reference to awareness program and or any negative questions or comments and the few dumpers, bashers that come by. A day or two, maybe, but its MGT ability not to execute promised business model. Its been a pattern.
Its not dumping when answeres are needed an expect to be answered. ANYONE that is scared or hesitant to chance saying anything negative or better put, questions that require CEO input are causing WAY more problems on their PHAR portfolio disaster than anyone that may be percieved as dumpers. Granted on every board you have some that are guilty of that practice.
Those that do get responses from CEO, get busy with problem at hand before all is lost for everyone. If HOWARD AND AQUAPRIN cant overcome an chat room posting board, we are in deep doodoo..,, for the sake of PHAR. Sweeping changes and truth are the only saving grace. Better all wake up to that fact and DEMAND answers from CEO.We dont need future words of promises. That happened, been there done that. Howard is only one that can tell the TRUTH about everything., make honest corrective measure with true transparency.
IMO ,thats the only saving grace.
Pumping and propping has 100% failed to work. Its your money, my money and our money. How many BANKS have loaned you money and when they hear nothing, you pay no payments, you return no explanation doesnt DEMAND payment, explanation and hound you until resolved. Same principle.
I respect you very much JAMMER, always have. All is lost unless CEO is aware that those he picks and chooses now to converse with have had enough of the bull, not fall for runaround while PPS sinks to almost daily all time lows. We again cant save this ship from sinking. Too heavy and not enough investors, and silence for almost 8months from a CEO., last CC.
GLTU,
A voice mail at every extension with ZERO return calls.
GLTU and glad at least there is a couple of insiders at PHAR.
Dont you think it would be beneficial to PPS just to at least report on the progress of plant. ALL PROMISES AND PRs have long been issued and in no possible way it could be insider information by giving simple, VERIFIABLE UPDATES.
Its absurd and frankly IMO its an an insult to the intelligent investors that have been conned to continiuosly have the can kicked down the road and make a mockery of what he has done to good people.
AIMO about the true state of PHARMSTAR, get on with it,IF THERE EVER WAS OR ANY INTENT TO BRING THIS PRODUCT TO MARKET.
Something beyond what we have been thinking is a seriuos problem IMO and,, thats the lack of 3rd party claims .Again ,JIMO concerning PHARMSTAR and current state of 100% NON transperency and COMPLETE disclosure to investors.
Well thought out diversion tactic IMO if that ever came to light.
GLTA
On this subject i think it would be wise to practice what one preaches and start talking about the promised BIG NEWS and where the hel_ is it. The PAST pattern of deciept well before this person of interest that is an object of personal attack and has allowed by board only to divert attention away from the corruption that has went on in PRIVATE PHARMSTAR and now both PUBLIC PHARMSTAR Pharmaceuticals .This is revelant to the PPS state of PHAR. INVESTORS LOOSING MONEY WANT TO KNOW HOW THEY WHERE CONNED Money spends the same whether private dollars or public.
All endevours with CEO Howard at the helm each time.
Now thats DD thats really has an impact on future public PHAR and its complete disaster in PPS this entire year of its so called business model . It has succeded in printing shares, thats for sure.
All in my opinion of course but proven printed info to REUTERS, Market wire , Bloomberg, Biotec, Yahoo financeand miriads of others can and will come to light.
If CEO does have a problem with anyone and threaten with a suit, he would be well advised to keep that attorney RETAINED as he im afraid will need one if he continue to accept investors in his fantisy but FAIL to pay for services.
GLTA
GLTA
I know what your saying. Learned from a lot of exhaustive DD paper trails are hard to follow with PHAR. So who is doing what to whom i just let go of.
Facts about PHAR and what its doing to investors is what im concentrating on.
GLTU
I respectfully dont agree that PHAR has paid anyone to post on the board. JMO
They did agree to pay someone to post pump on IHUB board but then after postings CEO /PHAR and tangled web 3RD`party decided not to pay. Signed a contract.
NOW THATS truly is criminal
I did well on some blocks in the beginning, but big blocks purchased right after CRITICAL influential PR is the problem block that have ended up being complete lies, i will not roll over and just take it. Thats just me .
I truly feel horrible for the ones that have seen hard earned money stolen. No one deserves not even having a fair chance.
GLTA
Dont have a clue, i really dont. Sort of like the secret 504 placements that were discovered, i reckon.
I do as an investor think its just as wrong to knowingly post anything to pump when one knows its has not a single ounce of truth in it. Paid or not, wrong is wrong
Doesnt work on me, need to save all forms of trickery and twisting words to PHARMSTARS PR authors. They are good at twisting things.
IMO Steve Martin is the total opposite of these crooks. IMO he ended up finally discovering the same stuff many are now discovering .FRAUD
My only point in these conversations is why are we trying to divert attention away from where it should squarely be. The CEO of PHAR invisibility.
GLTA
My goodness, ive peed more shares out than this individual could have ever had issued to him for work and decided to sell.
As an intellegent investor you have to concur that this amt your speaking of is like peeing in the ocean in the whole scheme of things.
We never know with any of us our situation as to when we need funds to make ends meet. IMO when we assume we know the reasons why shares were sold, it could make ass u me.
GLTA
I will have to agree with you 100%. There is always two sides to any story.
It sure will be interesting once all the facts are validated how much serious trouble PHAR will find itself in,
AS you mention those names they go back a long way and CEO has chosen to do business so im afraid he will be judged as a part of this gang that SEC has followed for years. JUST IMO
Yes ,i do agree that any professional public company, that claims to have such an outstanding product, that if it cant stand on its own merit to gain market approval, but use the IHUB as its means of advertising , something is BADDDD WRONG
Just for curiousity, whats your opinion on HOWARD/PHARMSTAR/3RD PARTY UNDER INSTRUCTION FROM CEO promising to pay $8000 to do an IHUB awareness pump play. It was done , PHAR didnt pay and is being sued.
Forget about the payment issue, just that PHAR felt ok to do a IHUB awareness program to pump and pay for it. ANY simularities with mentioned issue of paying for ihub promotion?
GLTA
IMO opinion PHARMSTAR PHARMACEUTICALS CEO Howard PHYKITT is in a hell of a lot more trouble than CC could ever be .
Maybe the private investors that got burned a couple of years ago might want to be at trail.
Interesting thought Snizzle, you think CC is the blame, I think a CEO is supposed to be in charge,, WHAT if they both end up in same cell. WOW
Surfguy, there are a lot of good hard working investors on the board that either have a lot of money tied up or have already lost there money.
As we have spoke many times ,once reality sets in, its hard to comprehend how someone at HOWARDS age and slick family talk could possibly be so blatant in the way he has avoided investors, knowing full well his deciept has ruined some.
But its a pattern. Ive posted this link as its to me one of the most telling things in this pattern of coning innocent people.
http://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/projects/pharmastar/
http://hartiganmanagement.com/
To make the claim just a short time ago that you had first phase money raised, but only enough to produce several million in sales a year, is beyond an evil pattern. Even recieved a $336,000 grant to expand. IMO opinion after taking private investors money, he was no longer welcome in Rocky MT.
We have to ask ourselves what happened then? Why it disappeared into thin air.
And for me when i found this WHY would you not produce the million or so of product a year, use the grant to expand and go PUBLIC the right way in due time..
I am more and more concerned that there is a AQUAPRIN problem with 3rd party claims. Something just does not add up..
It would make better sense and be more attractive to investors to have the claims validated first. NEVER has that happened. The question is why?
GLTU
IMO some at these levels are banking on a bump to make a quick buck. In today, watch it close and unload.
Do it all over again next time . Does nothing towards PHAR.
I truly hate the way this has been done.
PHAR/HOWARD are responsible .NO one else. As CEO you come forward, you dont dodge the issues. Result .0007
GLTU
Roughly 5million traded @.0007 And still no word from CEO.
QUOTE
"I believe in complete transparency and disclosure to investors."
EboJr, i would hate to see things if he didnt!
GLTU
Had an underlying message there. Yea i agree with your analysis, and #3 has been happening all year basically with avereage daily volume jump for PHAR
If just sticking to the finer details and doing hard DD on website for PHAR it takes you on a wild ride.
The claim of 10 billion in sales on all pain reliever products in US and CEO of PHAR HOWARD having the audacity to claim AQUAPRIN can garner 10% of that (1 billion) is , well, i cant even think of what that is. You have to know if you finished 3rd grade that that is an outright lie to any investor.
GLTU
Yup ,i know. Been here way before day one.
Was just referencing about start of tour and how much its dropped just in that short time.
If anything good had come up on tour a good CEO would have brought that forward and not wait until hell freezes over.
GLTU
Saltlife,,where in the world have you been? Missed your insight!!
What little intellegence i have, i can pass this multiple choice,#4.
I honestly think HOWARD/PHAR have embellished personal resume and embellished claims of AQUAPRIN that he has taken on a persona of those of us that invest are less superior as far as intellegence and we are stupid enough to believe basically anything he says or decides to print.Any positives coming from PHAR being leaked to board are positively PUMPYPOO.
I admitted my stupidity about 7 months ago when this thing started sliding and i started begging PHAR/HOWARD and the board to band together and demand a Conference Call. The more i was uncovering, the more stupid i felt.
But im a determined person and my mind never stops. I truly believe that PHAR/HOWARD/ McL and gang have underestimated the number of investors that are not going to walk away quitely.
Welcome back GLTU
Thats right EboJr, came out Dec.21
LA Cal. was kickoff, on JAN 18TH.. So 8wks should have ended TODAY March 14th.
Since JAN 18th PPS has dropped like a dead body with lead boots in the oceean. .004 to .0008
You would think ,using logic and common sense if anything good had came from just say the first 3, LA DALLAS MIAMI what kind of CEO would not step in with that news to try and support his investors, and curb the free fall. Why wait, makes no sense.
Like the other PRS, just a nasty game being played.
Howard/CEO for PHARMSTAR most likely did go to LA where his legal counsel JOSEPH PITTERA RESIDES 8miles away, and we all know the mafia man from DALLAS. Used some poor souls investment money to fly around.
WAS THERE A MARKETING TOUR? ITS OVER NOW, if it was ever one in the first place. So we need HOWARD to speak up., IF silence follows as with every single other pr , we have our answer.
Take care, GLTU
Thanks, SEC likes it when anyone tries to make a mockery of them. They seem to be more apt to listen as well when the host of characters involved CEO HOWARD and multiple PHARMSTER players even now that were the birth mother of PHAR are involved in a 30 company scam, PHAR being #29 Puration #30
So many players even Green Equities DIAZ couldnt have imagined how careless PHAR/HOWARD/McLAUGHLIN and party have been. Dam_ that Waldman im sure DIAZ is saying.
Thanks again, your making this easy, hopefully when crap finally hits fan schedules can be cleared to testify. SEC frowns on people that ignore them. Makes them suspicious of all investments or company inside connections one might have.
Thanks again for alerting us to this subject
GLTA
Thanks for posting. I needed a copy for SEC complaint records.
Sounds as if HOWARD has something to hide.
In reality since you bring this subject up to speak of to all the board to weigh in on,, i think the many subjects of outright fraud that have first transpired since revalations were brought to light, have come to light, and several new transgressions found by several investors as untruths are now surfacing as fact.
IMHO Just replace HOWARD PHYKITT's name in place of SJs, take out the NO in front of SEC, and remove A JOB at the end and put CONFERENCE CALL TO INVESTORS, NOW you have a believable email.
Thanks for info, even though its about as unproffessional as you possibly can get on HOWARD/CEO of PHARMSTAR a publicly traded company, it gives all legitimate investors better insight as to the real problem their money has been/being stolen.
GLTU
Forgot a gooseegg.. My bad Maybe news will shoot it up 1000% to get to my mistake low.
GLTU
PHAR wont go FAR because investors are MEANINGLESS in this pathetic excuse for running a Company
Did our CEO of PHARMSTAR with his past private attempts and this public attempt confuse running a company doesnt mean running it in the ground..
GLTU
IMO is does mean something to legitimate shareholders that after many PRs released that should have been as is quoted as BIG NEWS, PHARMSTAR has went from .05 to .009with all these great PRs.
Whats the revalation that should make any investor confident that the next PR is not just as fraudulent and meaningless as many of the previous ones.
Post more than saying things are meaningless on the above issue. Await your response
GLTA
Hey Pharce buster, DM seems to be picking up pace and is getting a little sloppy on paper trails though. They say most serial killers do accelerate their addiction and get sloppy and end up getting caught.
Pharmstars illegitimate birthing from DMAC spawned a 1/2500 rs. Conception actually started with DMAC and group and M Waldman at GREEN EQUITY HOLDINGS IN early OCTOBER0F 2010 . Thats when Howard CEO joined this group and concieved this plan of deception. It has paid off well, FOR THEM ONLY.
As with PHARMSTAR, PURATION was born on the backs of DMAC victims and any worthless SWR_ shares held got a 1/3440 r/s How bout them apples seeing that pop up on your portfolio one morning.
Just as PHARMSTAR, claims will be made as to NO involvement from previous owners by PURATION, what a crock of sh_t that turned out to be and will follow PURATION ,, but sad thing is , with a lot of BILL CHIPPAS and colorful website and MGT trained in the art of deception, GOOD INNOCENT PEOPLE WONT DO DD or not know how to dig and will get BURNED, just like PHAR victims. RED FLAGS IGNORED.
With PHAR and any DM spawns you have to dig 6FT DEEP to uncover dead and buried evidence or you wont ever understand the trap.
Take care, GLTU
Legal counsel by some miracle is the same as PHARMSTARs, Joseph Pittera.
He has no choice but to approve what he has to know to be pure lies, because the company is a scam. So Howard uses same guy that acknowledges PHAR false filings but are deemed OK because Pittera says so. He has to take sleeping pills to sleep, has to.
STINKS big time*** BIG NEWS AHEAD *** Not going to be pretty im afraid
GLTU
I posted this link a few weeks ago on the former owner of PHARMSTARs shell and still active in PHAR with some of his merry men that HOWARD as CEO feels obviously comfortable working with.
Since HOWARD is a big BILL CHIPPAS show alumni we should all listen in and see if McLAUGHLIN will mention PHARMSTAR Pharmaceuticals. I know i cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A ONE IN A MILLION COINCIDENCE SAME SHOW BEING USED as with PHAR and AQUAPRIN. Wonder if PHARMSTARs former INVESTOR RELATIONS expert will call in . Old TJ. Hopefully he can disguise his voice better
BIG NEWS FOR PHAR ?
GLTU
http://www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=SWRS&id=71437
Are you speaking of the wrap up this week of the supposed 4 city over 8wks tour? Are something different. Thanks for reply info.
GLTU
Frustrating that it sounds so good that as article states it decades away because of FDA.
Research has shown asprin used continually and at higher doses cause kidney failure and stomach erosion. But ok when used @83mg.
Pain relief is one thing but if this can help with the fight of cancer, should be a fast track method to get it approved.
My dad died 3yrs ago with stage 4 lung cancer that spread over his body and we just had my mother 1st chemo after a mastectomy. Going to be planned 2yr chemo.She has a 4cm spot inside liver.
The thought of anything or a product such as this hybrid asprin helping my kids and grandkids prevent this horror of a disease would be a blessing.
Good article and when i relate to PHARMSTAR and AQUAPRIN , whether or not the product has viability has not been 3rd party claimed and it has to get to market. I see that decades away under current system of trying based on current try coupled with past efforts, and the approach to getting it there.
But just as its ridiculous for the promise that a new hybrid asprin might help curb cancer could take a decade to use due to FDA,, its ridiculous to see a company driven into crapper by MGT and let that overshadow the product AQUAPRIN
Take care, good to hear from you, long time
What ive come to realize with PHARMSTAR is that what you believe in life as too good to be true, the old saying is true, it probably is...
Like you, many let the TRUST factor believing that a 75 yr old silver haired man would not sink to the levels as CEO that he has.
Thats the part that for many makes you angry an feel suckered.
CEO/HOWARD AND PHARMSTAR have known for SEVEN months about investors begging to be addressed as a group about PPS tanking and updates. WE HAVE BEEN TOTALLY IGNORED.. Some select may or may not have had contact about progress but that in itself is a tale tale sign of a PUBLIC COMPANY is being run by scammers or has no damn clue how to run a successful company.
Either scenerio gets you to .001
Some will roll over and take it ,some wont. Most companies such as PHARMSTAR that are successfully pulling this off are banking that most will roll over and take it, move on , and continue long journey to .0001. lOOK AT EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY COMPANY OF THE 30 THAT McL/Chambers/Wetz/Pittera/Crabb/JOHNSON/Waldmon have had their hands in . They have been totally involved with PHARMSTAR/HOWARD and CEO HAS allowed it.
The" some have left theory" is horse poop as some can be verified as were involved in late JAN.
GLTU
Since you brought the subject up im sure its ON TOPIC.
REAL matter at hand is PHARMSTAR PHARMACEUTICALS and how its running this operation .
Legitimate shareholders have the right to know about why they are being screwed over. IMO legitimate shareholders are present, past and future shareholders wanting honesty. NOT getting it so many are sick and tired of run around.
So i join you in saying VERY BIG IMPORTANT NEWS COMING!! You can count on it. I love challenges
Tia
First prize for post of the day regarding BIG NEWS coming for PHARMSTAR.
There still printing stock certificates for new scamventure. 4.6 billion O/S
GLTU
We all are, just not in the manner of avoiding the issues at hand.
Surely your open to examining all facts about PHAR.
The ongoing way PHAR has operated in lack of transparency, thats the issue at hand. Any news coming if BUSINESS MODEL AND BUSINESS MGT practices continue in same non transparent half as_ manner ,result the same. Can kicked a little further down the road with a one day bump in PPS. Surely thats not acceptable to you..
Anyone IMO is a legitimate shareholder if you OWN,,have owned or are plan on owning PHAR stock.
GLTA
I apologize Snizzle for delay in getting back to you. Not sure what happened, could have sworn i did ,but anyway better late than never.
Your right what an individual does with there money is no ones business. As im sure you understand, that was not intent of post. Your quick turnaround on possible trips was.
Since your class, for me included a multiple choice test,, i choose "B" as closest to relate to the meaning of my post. If you included a "D" all of the above i would have chose it.
When you speak of this BIG IMPORTANT NEWS coming ANY DAY, and have been doing so for weeks, multiple choice B says
"I , just like anyone else here, have no idea of exactly when the **********BIG NEWS******** is coming.
In reality thats true, but problem is the everyone else portion. Your the only one using the ANY DAY BIG NEWS event when responding to a wide variety of subjects.
Hope that helps, your right it just that simple!!But Snizzle ABC sounds A Bit Confusing
Class now dismissed.!!
GLTA
Your a good man SLOB. Thanks for heads up. Ive gone ahead and placed my limit order AON to unload. Nightmare is over.
Take care ,keep posting GLTU
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=72982621
Just 3 days ago took a tougher stance on rebuffing any that posted on trips.
For two weeks of positivily saying BIG POSITIVE NEWS any day surprised at this post indicating such a softer stance or reality that you think trips are inevitable, with confidence when they come you are ready to buy..
GLTA
Good post!!!!!!!!!!! needed a good laugh.. Might help if they could get a sample made not using other vendors product mixing in a little stuff and crushing and putting a label over the top of used packet and sealing before heading to WALMART. Their QC on site inspections for new vendors tend to frown on that.
GLTU