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Big week for us next week everyone. Enjoy your weekends with a big grin on your face knowing the money that will soon be coming our way.
Looks like everyone's frustration will be rewarded here soon :).
Pinksheets is just a company, they'll publish anything you pay them to put up.
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Also VCTY updated it's filings showing what the lawsuit against ASCC was about.. which essentially nothing. When you think about it the Oct 14th post under the financials falls directly in line with what was leaked this afternoon.
exactly... there are a multitude of other reasons why hackers would not bother with pinksheets.com but this one is the most obvious. Besides if he was going to do this then he should go for gold and hack transaction IDs or inject packets via man in the middle or something similar to screw with L2...
I personally wouldn't bother with publishing non PR'd information on a website, the majority of people trading pennies and sub pennies dont even look at otcmarkets.com
Not enough trade off for the risk. :P
haha... touchè, I approve of your rebuttal sir.
I would be fine if people were saying "well, VCTY has let us down before.. I'm not sure they will follow through this time".. I would be fine and thinking that is a logical and viable concern to have; but people trying to turn this into some kind of "conspiracy" is ridiculous.
It will either happen or it wont. If you think it's a conspiracy and you're not invested in VCTY then I think the answer on what you should do is pretty obvious. If you are already invested in VCTY but are skeptical... well just hold on, if this release on pinksheets is correct then I would anticipate that we see official PR no later than early of next week... but again always do what you *BELIEVE* to be best for you and your money.
oh god *rolls eyes*... for lack of a better word I am an employed 'hacker'.... again *rolls eyes*.. thats the only response I can give.
actually it just seems like you, I also saw it on pinksheets before it was taken down and my name is neither Joe, Jhon or Jack ;).
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part of me wants it to happen tomorrow, but I think I would prefer for it to happen monday. People tend to get fickle and forget over the weekend :(
maybe someone accidentally gave us a little sneak preview?
Here's to hoping.. -cheers.
I definitely would like to see a share restructure if Hydro is out of the picture.
lol, do you really want my opinion on that question?
I agree but it was released after hours, they may be saving the PR for tomorrow morning before open; who knows. People know I'm a skeptic and I can't imagine why they would say they operate two subsidiaries if they didn't finalize with ASCC... but it wouldnt be the first time VCTY tricked me ;)
Lets see what tomorrow brings.
Actually Minimar has given false time frames themselves as well. Gotta blame both sides.
1 @.0029 and 5 @ .0030
Lots of people sitting on the ask, wonder whats up.
The way the PR's were worded originally made it appear it was 1 company with 3 reactors. In either case we're arguing semantics here but thanks for the correction
I also remember when it was 3 reactors and 1 hydro company, then it turned into 3 seperate reactors that were independant of one another, then there was a holiday at the beginning of Sept where they said they have 1 reactor on board and would continue without the other 2... then I remember promise of financials that didnt come on time, I also remember the poor lawyer who had a tummy ache
My point is that it's hard to take anything they 'say' seriously... once they follow through they will have credibility once more but as of now their credibility is pretty low as can be seen by many of the posts made here in the last few days.
They say seeing is believing.. let's hope VCTY makes us 'believe' sometime soon.
if they managed to get .0027 and sold at .0031 then thats 15%.
I agree at 50k-100k shares traded that doesnt make sense, its only 40 bucks, unless someone is a noob, doesnt have a decent amount of equity or MM's purposefully driving the price up and then down again to try to shake shareholders.
Who knows, i'm just waiting for solid PR so we can get out of this slump :(
actually.. without momo his sell probably would've just been undercut by one of the MM's. I'm not sure he would've been able to sell at the ask considering how slow its moving today, more than likely either MM games or someone who bought in the .002x range and sold for a quick 20-30%.
2@ .0028, 1@ .003
Most pennies are emotional rollercoasters; I think I jumped the gun on this one but that's fine. I typically try to avoid the rollercoaster portion of a stock prior to it actually performing... I'm generally good at doing this but no one is perfect. If it stabilizes around .004 today I will buy more, but if it looks like its going to drop back down into the .002x range it leaves me weary about putting money that doesnt seem to have indication of potential trend reversal.
A PR confirming Hydro, India or a buyout will send VCTY rocketing.. I just hope it comes sooner rather than later... or worse.. never :(.
Agreed, to be honest if they would at least drop a name for the Hydro company that would set my mind at ease a bit. I wonder what the reason for the China company had for not wanting this. Typically you want this type of news to be put out to raise the value of the purchasing company before absorbtion.
Oh well, my biggest fear is regarding the continued downtrend; once stocks get into what is seemingly a deathspiral they have a hard time recovering. If VCTY follows through the reward will definitely be big, if they can't then I think many people will have a hard time recoup'ing their initial capital.
Only time will tell and I hope that it makes me feel stupid in the end for ever doubting VCTY. Here's to making money :)..
-cheers
I think what he's saying is that they've been 'saying' things for months with no follow through and despite what we may try to interpret from what they say... it becomes hard to take their word for it.
Ever have an employee that had constant excuses for being late? Sure you believed him the first couple of times but once something appears to be habit or behavior to the individual it becomes hard to place your trust in them. This is similar to how people feel regarding VCTY right now I believe.
People definitely view anyone who doesnt have a positive perspective relative to the information at hand as a basher. Even if that person is also invested into the stock and is simply trying to have a conversation/dialogue or debate on differing opinions/perspectives.
I felt I was being cordial yesterday until someone jumped on my back for basically wanting to discuss our differing viewpoints.
Somehow people think that ihub, with its relatively small group, is a major player and can influence the direction of a stock despite the fact that there are millions of traders working actively in the markets. Because of this I've noticed individuals sometimes get emotional even if you mean no harm; because they perceive that you are trying to drive the stock down when really all you want is understanding and answers as best as you can get them... which sometimes requires discussing both the positive and negative aspects, but I ramble...
VCTY may or may not perform. I only have a small position here and will let it ride out regardless; though based on the performance for the last few months I really dont have high hopes. I would love to be wrong here and will gladly praise Kitty and others when/if this stock hits the multi bagger everyone originally perceived VCTY to be.
it's not a bounce, a bounce would require a positive close. If you looked at the 3 month daily chart... are we up or down from friday? :P
Preceeded by a trend of closing the day down... yeah; not a bounce.... yet. Tomorrow may prove different, or the same. We'll see.
You predicted it would bounce to -22.45%? That's a hell of a bounce downward :P
Very mature of you there, it's great to see what kind of person you actually are.
actually I was trying to engage you in an honest conversation/debate regarding the issue. I wasn't trying to take my ball and go home with it. I was curious what you honestly thought based on a different perspective of the same situation; which you can't refute appears to be a daily occurence.
And did I ever question your credibility? I was trying to have a legitimate dialogue with you. No reason to get all butt hurt over NOTHING.
jesus.
Maybe you missed the point of my post. If something happens on a daily basis, then you should assume that this is the behavior of the stock.
We have seen this downtrend for a significant amount of time, at what point do you say "this is not short selling and covering"? Because if you say it everyday then wouldnt you agree that the argument starts to lose it's credibility?
Again, every day.
To be clear, I really want this to perform. We'll see what happens by end of week I guess.
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Anytime there is a shake down, a number of members will post "MM's are trying to cover"... so tell me when is a MM not trying to cover because based on the history of VCTY it appears that they shake and cover daily.
With that said it appears like we may be dipping into the .002x range today; I am less than enthused and wish I had followed my gut by selling at a loss last week. If by some miracle financials come out and I make money.. I'll be the first to buy you a cold brew.
-Cheers
I would argue that you make money by trading intelligently; which does not directly involve either buying or selling, but rather good decisions on when to sell, buy and get out... and re-buy if the opportunity provides itself.
Staying put during a panic sell off and constantly averaging down on a stock that has been downtrending for quite some time doesn't strike me as the best method to trade.
The world is not black and white.. people don't make money on the stock market by merely buying and selling, but rather buying and selling at the correct times regardless of Panic or chasing.
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Well said, lots of places to make money. For now I'm still in it, wanted to sell off this morning and potentially rebuy on a low but I overslept this a.m :(.
Pretty reasonable advice, anytime I try to give something similar on ihub it tends to get shot down.
In the end, each investor needs to do what he/she feels is best based on past trading experiences in these situations. Some people hit jackpots, but most usually end up just putting money into MM hands.
That's not really what my argument was about. It was reflective that whenever something negative about VCTY is mentioned on the board.. someone spins it into something positive and then stamps it with "trading 101" when in fact it really isnt trading 101.
I wasnt directing at you, but your post touched on the topic so I replied to it.
I dont expect a company to take off unless there is momentum or confirmation of news to help drive the price up, or something similar... but fact is MM has done a very poor job in communications to shareholders and the newswires; which is all we have to rely on.
I've been in pennies for a while and based on the lack of concrete information.. I dont have such high hopes that everyone else has here and can't really delude myself when you see multiple negative trends starting to stack on top of one another such as momentum, continued lower closing prices, poor technicals, poor L2, poorly written PRs and news, poor or purposefully vague information to shareholders. yes I know they cant reveal all, but they purposefully say things in generic/vague terms to avoid answering a question. It would be much better to just say "we do not know at this time but we are working on it" as opposed to constantly saying "soon, next week".
These things have happened and cant be denied; if it was just one of these items it could be dismissed but when multiple instances of negative trends begin to stack the issue starts to compound and becomes a serious concern.
As you and others have stated; financials are coming and this could completely change the slump we've been in. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed, I feel it's about all I can do at this point.
-Cheers
Yes, I am thrilled that we are at the lowest low in months. What a fantastic thing for us!
This isn't a bash, but been catching up on posts (been away for 6 weeks or so), but I'm amazed at how many people rely on uncertainty and vagueness as their trading style. I didn't know that so much of trading 101 (at least the people who say 'trading 101' in their posts) revolved around trading stocks without confirmation of DD, chart patterns or momentum trend.
I'm still in VCTY, and am likely to stay in it through till the end of the month but only because I made a bad play. Typically I wouldn't even bat an eye at something that doesnt give me confirmation on one of three levels Patterns, technicals and DD research; none of which VCTY has been able to confirm for the Hydro company.... Also yes they brought us tactician but past performance isn't guarantee of future performance the way some people seem to flaunt that fact around as if it were.
Shrug, I just hope all of us get what we've been promised for months or at the very least I hope we don't get bent over the barrel for blindly following.