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We just want to know if intertek is actually working with WDRP. Can they advertise they are and not be engaged with them? I don't think so else they would be sued misrepresentation and Intertek could be compensated for that claim.
I am convinced that Gold had the best thought concerning the last pr and giving them the benfit of the doubt, if Robert knew this was coming down with all the new gobbledecoup pr, if he would have told us as soon as he knew it, it would have established he(Robert) was trying to be responsible therefore at least a begining attempt to be credible.
I am supposed to have a talk with Andrew and he will get many comments from me concerning how things are or not relayed to stockholders. If Robert stubs his toe, we want to know about it. All I can do is try and I do want proof from the lab that they are in fact employed by WDRP. A picture of Robert in front of a desk just doesn't get it. z
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amen brother. very appropriate analogy. thanks.z
As I have said before, they invent as they go. Test fails, unit fails, Robert gets something in his head and that's it until the next published bunch of none specific pile of words are immulated. The most important thing now is to try and convince public that Robert is on the ball and doing not only all he can to complete but keep everyone informed even as the time approaches the next deadline or he (Robert) gets closer to completing some aspect of the inventions' progress.
It is so damaging to the perception of how the company is run which is at all time low as far as I'm concerned and I have no hope that it will ever improve based on history. I hope Andrew and associates try and convey that to Robert.
Remember there is no reason these people will ever change..even with a full blown product, etc. They invent, test, and fix as they go. They are competent and incompetent at the same time. I can't even talk to Andrew anymore..just as sentence or two in a email. He says he can't say anything, it doesn't matter cause info,etc. will be released in pr anyway..
All we know is they are trying to get it done and that's all that matters. I hate the waiting game and poor communication, but that's what I have to deal with. z
today is the last day for video before test data. Typical WDRP
From the beginning? Wdrp has been "forced" to build this thing.
Robert had an idea and that was all. Now after a lot of agony and waiting for them figure out all the details they are very close to completing something tangible. I don't believe for one minute that they will be more responsible communicating than they have been in the past. They have established their expected ability to keep us informed. Don't expect any life changeing event..we can only be prepared for the historical pattern and I always hope I'm wrong this time? Please be responsible and get it done WDRP!
I agree. That is why Andrew indicated there is nothing to say (like he can't anyway) until the news is released which is what I clearly have reason to believe will happen when the company said it would. I think even if things are not up to expectations, they will tell us that as well. I remain optimistic. z
I don't understand, how do you know it will not happen? Are you assuming it won't because of past record of broken claims? You know after all this time, just to sum it up and roll over dead and figure we're screwed is just not where I'm at. They gave us a date and said video to be released, etc...so that's what will happen. They would have covered their butts with wordy and vague statements in last pr which they didn't do. Come on WDRP get er done!z
so you know how the heat engine works? please explain. I have been well aware that moving supply cannot be heated quickly enough to increase temp enough even to shower, let alone too hot to touch. We have been knowing this for years, so the focal point to supply needed temp increase must have something to do with final supply temp
I emailed Andrew for a when on the video and how things so far were at the lab. Hopefully I will hear from him by the end of the day.z
no swearing and find another broker.
I thought they would have published before last pr but was wrong. That is what before means...we'll see but time for different vegtable besides the carrot.z
absolutely, the numbers will be a point of change! I still think there may be a small increase each week until that time, I hope!Thanks,z[url][/url][tag]insert-text-here[/tag]
I don't see how yesterdays efforts were anything but futile. It was a nothing day with at least some volume.
At this point, WDRP looks more like a bet for profit than not. I am amazed that there is not interest brewing. Perhaps it will take a couple of days to soak in to public awareness. I may cover my bets but I am not selling period.z
thankyou, me too and amen.z
Your right, I guess I'm overdue progress with pps, etc. just like yourself and all the others who have been toughing it out so long. Thanks for your perspective. z
Today was a huge waste of a decent pr. What a joke. Mabe someone made a 100 bucks. Hope to see the nats leave. We need to stay in long land with buy and sell at appropriate time imo.z
The problem I have with the lab only today or tomorrow is that they have been allready testing the unit according to the last pr. Why would they suggest the date of announcement would be earlier unless the preliminary or first test result would be published as well. They should funish us with test results now and they should figure out how to validate the existence of the heater at the same time.
I agree. There was nothing that said to the contrary.
In the pr with all the efficiency lecturing, at the end in the summary it was said the chosen lab is testing the unit now and that the data would be made public. The announcement of the lab would be on or before the 18th. In pure english literal translation they are actually saying that date (18th) but before can only mean that the testing is done to a point that it can be published before but definitely by the 18th. There were no words to allow for delaying again...
I know you all are right in saying that the co will not deliver but only a carrot because that's what they do and I agree. I do think that things are looking up for wanderport. At least there should. be enough info to get thangs movin'.z
According to the pr they are testing the unit now. I interpret the article as saying on or before the 18th...that is before would be when results could be announced as well as the lab name.
So I guess the lab said they would definitely be done by the 18th if not before.
how is the bid calculated? Obviously if there is multiple buys at the ask the bid goes up.
Actually, why is the bid so much less than the ask?
quite lot of time you spent and thanks. I guess we still have a chance that it will work. There has to be energy loss at focal point of heating within the so-called heat engine. I think it is amazing that anything can heat moving water under pressure and have a desired outcome with reasonable quantity.
One things for sure, no one bought into the last pr. The response was pathetic at best. Perhaps we could have a delayed response but I doubt it.
Very depressing to wait all this time and we keep waiting and we kinda only guess
I think you've got it. That was my interpretation. We still need to see the heater visually. I need to see it. Descriptions need to support a unit that we can accually relate to.z
Look out we're up to .02 ask! All we need is a new carrot. I know, it's not very humorous.
Yep I believe it is Andrew. He doesn't want to talk to us on the phone and FB is easy. It was the least he could say but at least he responds. I think Andrew is very concerned about expediting this thing and proving at least there is a REAL product.
That's where were at. No 8am pr. Maybe tomorrow
One thing left to keep in mind is that Robert is behind all the delays. He has a huge history of not rising to the occasion. It is his way. Yes he should owe an explanation but we will not see it. We will see the product before his appology. I know your thinking we don't have much of a chance at all and it definitely looks like the end..but the end of what? waiting maybe..either way no product or no more waiting. I think we will get an official pr very soon but it may not be what we would expect.
With that said as far as reasonable pr..why would they change at all? In order to be consistant, we will get as close to the real thing as possible, but we will probably not still be sure that we really have a viable product. The most that we can hope for is enough information to stir up trade activity and interest from the general public. Once we get that far it could be possible to a least relax after recouping losses.
Anything less means it's over. Period.
Well Beer, looks like no information today. I emailed Andy and asked if they were going to break the silence but I doubt I will hear from him. Eventhough I still think they are still active, it's like they just disappeared.
thanks, Erin. I like to read your posts. I am trying to find out from Andrew no specific information but only his general opinion aside from painful waiting.z
I guess the stalling efforts have to work and no matter how dejected we feel that must be put aside. We must decrease so WDRP will increase.
Remember how quirky Robert is and probably very paranoid about all kinds of stuff associated with releasing what information he has. They have a machine and some numbers and some manufacturing plans, etc. but they are overwhelmed so much that they don't know if they are to take a crap or go blind.
Eventhough it would be to wdrp's best interest, they will not update us. My opinion is that they believe the only information must be something to advance the product and confirm it's existance. Anything else would be a disaster (intheir minds). I told Andrew that being honest and informative would be beneficial, but what do I know?
I guess we still have an outside chance..It would be nice for even "it's complicated", but everything works, testing is adequate, but there are compliances, widgets, etc. we must have in order to continues at this point. Here is a demonstration of our unit...etc. We will udate asap.
Wouldn't that be nice? It is realistic.z
Thanks Beer, I didn't know what to do! We are all so burned out with this never ending saga, we can't even comment any more.
Yep maybe next week.. God help wdrp.
During the last week in August, I was told nothing would happen until after the Labor Day weekend or there about...so we're painfully beyond that. I do know that they were and have done some promotional lineup of sorts. I think at this point it is the coordination between the third party testing to verify not only their results but most importantly the fact that this machine actually exists.
With that said we should be done unless Robert is still being wierd or there is some terrible problem that has surfaced. I think it is the latter.z
We have done all that is possible to encourage this co to get it together. There is nothing that can be done any more except wait and assume they will probably disappoint us even with whatever news they are able to come up with in the very near future? It would be quite remarkable for them to have all that we expect and or have been told us to look for. Something is terribly wrong to not have provided intelligent and reasonable information at this time.
I look forward every day thinking we will have much needed information but it's always nothing at 8am when we get pr's. Whatever and whenever we get a new one, it will seem "forced" and there will be a big piece of the puzzle still missing. All they can do is buy time but that is getting very expensive.
I feel better now.Thanks, z.
You're right and facebook stuff is a joke imo. It's gonna happen, just wait. Robert will not do as we wish. I assure all that as soon as Andy gets the green light we will have our info. He wants to happen as bad as we do. It will be a nice day the machine is authenicated or is officially "real".z
Who wrote this? We need the test results and proof of the existence of the machine itself, with demonstration, etc. Still a great idea and could have substance but just more fluff and stuff...no guts. All theory. We need something that can be touched and seen.
The endless wait. Hard to deal with. I have been trying to get clues as to when it's going to be over and really thought we had a great chance this week... Trying to find out if any major obstacles or if just details that are holding us up. Hopefully we will know if things are on track even by the end of the day?
At least we can email for on-track status. I am.z
I still think Labor day weekend, light trading, back to school, holiday, etc. and then we may have the big news. How big? Will there be many unanswered questions? Yes. Will we have a validated product and by whose definition? We will have product that works, tests, and is visible, and validated by hopefully the third party lab, etc.
Proof that there really is a product is something that WDRP must address in no uncertain terms and I think that is exactly what we will have very soon. z
Remember we have a holiday weekend, etc. Maybe they will do it after the break. I wish it were tomorrow/we'll see. I know there is great anticipation even with Andrew and co. They can't wait for all the negative people to be put it their place.
Proving they really have a machine is what's up.