small taters farmer,retired teacher,veteran WW2 Korea,Infantry
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GKG market is,basically, a Southeast Asia, Sub Saharan and
and China crop The Chinese are building a multi-energy economy and the Southeastern villages are far from hooked on fossil fuel energy.
Also, geopolitical developments might cool our "being hooked" on oil.
Since the United States is caught in a situation of our own making, the pull between environmental-oil politics-might force finding comon ground and allow mining of our own resources, and to a lesser extent, be willing to decentralize of marketing of energy.
Our use of alternatives are,consequently,caught in the politics of which source is the better and which is the worst energy source and there will always be research to disproove the benefits of the variious sources of energy. (The corn and wheat folks, and the hog and beef industries,e.g fought tooth and nail over relative values.
Consequently, VSPC execs are casting their nets in the areas with thousands of agricultural villages.
Consequently we will have our sphere and the oil people will continue to be dominant here as long as they successfully convince that they are the best!
Rjbench:
I am sure that you ,an assiduous reader,noticed the excluionary clause "However shares of stocks, or other equity owned by debtor in Direct Methanol Fuel Cell Corporation (DFMCC) and Ionfinity LLC..." thus, Ionfinity is excluded from the rights possessed by creditor(s)asserting rights of a contract default.
Thanks for your communication
Respectfully "olefoggie"
Josh46
I posed that question abot Chang taking over VSPC's percentage of Ionfinity because there has been specultaion that he would if the debt owed to him on the VGRE transaction was not paid as per the cntract, then Chang would be in position to assume ownership of VSPC's holdings.
So- so much for that speculation.
To Whom it May Concern:
I am not sure that the U.S. Government would allow any person to purchase more than 5% of Ionfinity without top secret clearance.
So- is Chang a citizen of the United States? If not, would top secret clearance be extended?
Additonally- is it not better to have trust than not.
Trust until you cannot. If you do not trust, and yet you purchase has something to say about what you think about yourself.
If you do not trust VSPC's leadership and the majority ownership- then bailout!
Josh45:
A touch of fluff here 'n there is notall that bad. Fluff is the soft touch, but, it is required that numbers verify and supports the the feeling created by fluff.
It's the velvet touch accompanied by the iron fist and glove!
Josh46:
IPA will be busting at the seams when the new construction housing market rebounds- and, also when those who want to remodel and upgrade
Hell, I'm 83 and am thinking abour buying all new furniture and some new pictures on the walls. It's the atmospherics that make Americans full vigor and vim. It's in our bones.
Market psychology will bring this country out from the doldrums-
and spending money will de je vous again, but with a pich of caution!
VSPC has the right business fix for what's going to be!
Larry:
The good doctor will soon discover that VSPC growth will become more than a single person can manage, and, then, we should see that hiring another executive will be necessary.
The cash cow- pellets and picture frames will have a life unto themselves ,and then there should be the shifting of resources onto the big-time cash cow-fuel cell technology and the defense sectors.
Each of these technologies will require personnelwith scientific and marketing expertise.
No person has the time, energy,and expertise to successfully manage the complexities of business.
Doing so will be as a hog on ice-legs going every which way and gettin' nowhere real fast like!
much obliged
rookie:
how does one retreive the "breakout board"?
Who slapped the hornets' nests?
As it is said in this part of the country--"I'm from Missoura"-"so
show me"
Brighside4me:
It's amazing- you'ns can find a needle in a haystack!
That list of companies attending the fuel cell conference in Atlanta is a gold mine, because within that grouping are potential winners
in that industry.
I'm going to start d/d'n
Both options
Rodman
The post was not about loosing, but not knowing what to do when I accumulate.
I have never , never had approached having the amount of money I anticipate having the amount of money that 1M shares will earn.
Like I said we have been very frugal. Both myself and my wife are children of the depression and WW2.
Just what in tarnation are we going to do with what we anticipate.
What would we do if I bought 2M?
We have no debt, all assets are free and clear-don't believe in debt.
So-why buy more!
Rodman:
You are correct. Honestly, though, I would not know what in hell I would do with the earnings with several millions of shares.
I have been strictly frugal all my life. In fact, I have trained myself to spending March money in June.
The folks in town state that when I open my billfold June bugs, which have been nesting,fly out.
So I'm not going to accuumulate beyond where I am now
Having a pile of money 's new to me!
Tommy:
Yes. Do not pay any attention,forget us, do not ask any questions, just send us your hard earned money, and don't worry about the balance sheet, and all that other stuff.
Ole Foggie
Tommy:
Dr. K's words awhile back _'
VSPS is the kind of stock that you put away in the drawer and forget" The question to be asked-for for long?
Answer- "until the paper turns yaller"
Remember Biomaster-he's a PhD, and those who do not have a Phd are beneath him
Lack of$:
Thank you for your inquiry!
Whil we are trying to grasp the situation, I wondered if it would possible if VSPC would take advantage of the situation by buying shares today and put them in the Treasury, thus reducing the effectof dilution-in other words,a buy-back.
I don't know about this, butI know companies do buy-backs and this act reduces the number of shares in circulation which increases the value of those shares in circulation.
Educate me!
lackof$:
Bacically we are on the same page. I am in a negative mode, but, I will go down with the ship, or float with out a rudder until we are rescued( a contract for sales or merger)
It appears that VSPC is a shell,brittle and nearly empty. Survival
depends on either contract path. The opposite, dissolvment,judging by their balance and method of paying staff, is assurely a pit of quick sand from which it is is difficult to escape from.
The market does not create a situation, but its ups and downs responds from facts at hand. The market responds- people do not create a negative or a positive environment insofar as the condition of a company are concerned. Companies create, by their action or non-action-and the numbers talk, and the public responds.
So- I will hang on, like you, but my attitude borders on pessimism.
I have goals, but the goals' attainance requires a successful VSPC, but when you put all your eggs in one basket, you are asking to have that which we are facing.
Respectfully
Ole Foggie
LackO'Cash:
That's the feel I have, and it does not take much time to see the weakness in the balance sheet and the charts, to wonder.
Additionally, to back out, would be fruitless because of the major loss.
With the low volumn, selling a million shares or so,moronic- so, you can say that this is being between a rock and a hard place, a double negative.
So- you hang-on, and consider selling enough shares to break even, and hold on to see what gains you may gain.
We are waiting for the quarterly and annual report.
If there are improvements in assets and liabilies,then there will be improvement in confidence on both sides during contract negotiations The company has done well in lowering expenses
and controlling accounts payable and accounts receivable, but dilution is an embarrasment-it means that nothing exists outside of being in shares accept paying with weakening shares. That's not agood state of affairs.
But- now- selling would be difficult, and as you state, buying is a good deal.
It is one thing to brag on a new product in an industry in its infancy and the company's balance sheet consisting of an assemblage of negatives, and on the other hand, having the ability of the seller to convice the potential buyer to feel comfortable in believing that the seller will be a "going concern"
It's hard to swing a deal without having negotiable leverage- with nothing to offer but a concept and a "good fer nothin"' balance sheet.
Leverage without substance- worthless when dealing with astute, hard-ball business people who expect more that "goodwill"
p/s I feel like a gerbil which marched to the edge of a cliff, and jumped off the cliff into the sea-like those who marched to the sea before me and jumped off the cliff into the sea because that's what the leader did.
46:
Hedge is a show-out, and enjoys being treated negatively. I used to enjoy being being viewed negatively- more attention being negative than positive, because more is expected of you when you have something to offer.
This was somewhat reversed when the first mate dangled me over theside and asked me"do you want to work or swim?"
I decided immediately that swabbing the deck was better than swimming toward the shoreline that was out there somewhere. I was working on the ore boats at the age of 15.
My smart-ass career ended on that day-no more grinning when told what to do.
I read your response concerning bitlifesciences.com.
In that, you asked about Singapore.
Singapore is the financial center for southeast Asia-quite prominate in that neck of the woods.
The post also indicated concern over the private status ofligitmate VSPC. Concern is ligitimate!
I really don't know about investment proceedures in Singapore, but, it might be possible that this action might be the manner in which Chang is assuring payment of our note to him.
Just speculation on my part.
I am sure that there will be some probing on this matter by members of the board.
Maybe be a dead end for us, because VSPC is a registered entity outside of the United States and not under the perview of our legal system (I could be wrong on this)
I tried to reopen tjhe link again, but a message indicated that bitlifesciences could not be located.
This poses another question-why I could raise the link at 4 a.m. but not at 5:15?
Are we behind the technology? The cell industry appears to be in a swirling sea with all those competing developments.
Josh:
Keep the faith!
Our judgement has been challenged, but, then, a challenge kept
sharpens the next decision.
I will begin researching nano stocks- they're still in the development stage. I am basically a futurist, and, impatient to deal with Proctor and Gamble, et al.
VSPC will provide us ample income.
Josh:
If you haven't sold, and the issue goes down, you have lost value, not money. You loose money when you sell.
It might be that you'll loose money, and it might not be-that's the roll of the dice.You never know that what you have done is a mistake until you have made a decision, and the consequences are revealed.
Such is life!
Maybe the fortcoming greed cycle will be at the door by spring- and inventories will need to be replenished as consumers, tired of hunkering down will be chomping at the bit and return to their favorite form of enteertainment- buying!
Keep your eyes on the greed gauge.
Tks- for widening my education. It'll take me about to catch up with this abbreviated lingo, and by then I'll be two generations behind, and so, I'll be coming into the Twentieth Century.
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It's a fer piece to a beach- so.we sit on a bluff, or on a log down in the holler- just a different setting for meditation.
Josh: A poke is a sack. The old saying in these mountains is-
"don't buy a pig in a poke".
Texans, Arkies and other people from the Appalachians brought their lingo with them, and they stick.
In a way, any purchase, to varying degrees is "a pig in a poke", even if you can visualize it, because there are always hidden factors and the fickleness of future time.
Thus, we combine instinct with what we perceive as fact.
We throw the dice- even when the pig is out of the sack.
Did we buy a pig in a poke?
Jaru22:
Remember- they are PhD's and they have a corner on knowledge. Thus, they cannot, in good conscience, seek or accept a helping hand in any field of endeavor.
hedge:Carl talks too early, and too much. PR's are best when the situation has occurred. Old Sam Rayburn (Speaker of the House back in Roosevelt's and Truman's day) wisely stated that the more you say, the more ya gotta explain.That's true in politics and business.
46:
Roger'n out!
46:
Yes, let off steam!
The uninitated- they see this stuff - scares the hell out of them, and, also might dissuade the gentile, curious folks; plus the negativity gits a wee bit boring, and not good for the psyche.
At that time-hibernate fer a bit, and get out to the wood pile and split some hickory wood!
Enjoy the hub-learned a lot from the group-especially those amongst us that have wide experience and known the market machinations.
Thanks
Arkansas Ole Foggie
46:
We know the sales in the U.S. to an extent, but are in the dark about sales elsewhere. We will know the total amount of sales worldwide come reporting date; so until then we'll have to be partially satisifed. Until then-when the quarterly report is submitted,then with ,the facts at hand,we should ease off from insecent negativity and conjecture.
Josh:
That's o.k.
In our impatience we must remember that VSPC is a sub-contractee, and Samsung sets the rules of the game, and if, a subcontractee has a big mouth the subcontractee is no longer a subcontractee.
Josh:
Tipping your mit-means talking too early. You talk when you are ready to hit the market-then you do your marketing (pr etc) There is such a matter of industrial sabotage.