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You have to look at all of the numbers and how they are affected. The volume in both the Dow and Daq has to be down with the Daq leading but in the low numbers. when both are in the high green penny stock trading losses volume.
Someone is using PTRZ for short term security until confidence is restored on the high end of the big boards then that residual volume dries up.
Check the numbers you will see in the past when we were at 30-35 both the Daq and Dow began their rebound When ever they fell in the red and the Daq led in the low numbers PTRZ took off.
The name of the game is volume, confidence and is fuel
All of the air has gone out for now the 32 is a price showing confidence during big board losses. Big winners were commodities on the dow. volume is the key attracting it has to be a priority confidence is still high , patience is still advised.
Lets go PTRZ get the lead out no time to give in to old stale Philosophy stay with the momentum you generated.
New waves of innovation must sweep the world wide financial market and Corporate infrastructure if we are to survive the coming challenges.
The Low volume can also be attributed to the season. Still groge from the recession battle, investors just might be playing it safe for a while and laying low for the holidays to have extra cash on hand just in case.
I still think what ever loose volume attracted to the daq affects PTRZ volume as well if you check the correlation in the high's and lows you will see a pattern that is too much of a coincidence.
Looking forward to the call tonight. will check back latter the key is the Daq's over all performance right now and how much loose volume it can attract, I know all of my buddies are having a hard time digesting that last statement, but the Key word is volume.
Catch y'all after lunch.
All of the air has gone out for now the 32 is a price showing confidence during big board losses. Big winners were commodities on the dow. volume is the key attracting it has to be a priority confidence is still high , patience is still advised.
Lets go PTRZ get the lead out no time to give in to old stale Philosophy.
New waves of innovation must sweep the world wide financial market and Corporate infrastructure if we are to survive the coming challenges.
The Low volume can also be attributed to the season still grog e from the recession battle investors just might be playing it safe for a while and laying low for the holidays to have extra cash on hand just in case.
I still think what ever loose volume attracted to the daq affects PTRZ volume.
Holding at 36, the Dow picked up the volume today. Still want to see what will happen when and if the Daq surges.
Going to check the leaders of the Dow maybe it will give an idea as to what the tug of war in volume is about.
This is the hardest part the waiting that's why its good that confidence is strong and its holding at 36.
One World One Market!!!!
Good morning everyone Just looking in.
Confidence is steady but the day has just begun.
Looking forward to the ride not expecting to see a turn until overall volume is leveled, and the conversation has shifted from certificates and mergers.
Gray's, Pinks, it doesn't matter in this Bullish climate. The name of the game is volume.
PTRZ generates enough to remain stable in the toughest times, assets flowing from stock sails or company holdings.
Check in with you guys after lunch have to get back to work time is closing in.
Dare to dream !
GO PETRO!!!!!!!
Gained a point but finished even, not a bad performance in a bullish atmosphere.
Looking for more of the same Tuesday. The Daq didn't bounce all the way but it did out perform the Dow still think the key is in whatever is drawing the volume.
Technology took a beating recently maybe that's the connection. Or it could be the Asian market with all of that precious metal. Should be an interesting evening well see what comes.
Have a Good night and Remember let the process work, don't destroy the relationship between the TA and the company.
Good morning all, working away here on the coast it looks like another slow day Still watching the Daq for correlation have a feeling something big is affecting volume but confidence is still strong.
Still a smart money move when things calm down. Panic dose no one good, balance can only be achieved in shaky ground.
KeJ's questions are a list that must be answered I confident that TA has everything in order and when the data based is completed most if not all of his inquiry's will be satisfied.
Some one wrote about trust a moment ago. The whole idea of free market trading is based on confidence, and that confidence is built on a variety of things.
Because of the emergence of the world market system personal relationships have changed and subsequently the ideals to which confidence is established have changed also. Thus the Kej's and Harly's of the world.
Good people at hart but living in the past of failed business relationships. FF that was some good info and a good place to monitor for the changes I'm confident are coming down the pike.Ill check back in after lunch and see if the Daq rebounds. And please stop calling the TA Let the business complete, then direct your questions to the company
Good hunting in any and all that you do today see you after lunch GO PETRA !!!!!!!!!
Still all the same its too much of a coincidence Im going to keep my eye on it for a while it might be something big that would pull overall interest from the grays to the big boards affecting overall volume I think ill check out this week reports and see if any thing is brewing or any type of correlations its just to frequent to ignore.
Which part it has to be one or the other
That's what I'm trying to confirm weather or not he was specking in the general sens as receipts or specifically as trad-able stocks which I doubt. I didn't catch the call so I won't know until later.
Good afternoon all just checking in for the first time very busy back here I missed the call but I m hearing and reading some very interesting things Ill have to check into for confirmation.
Looking at the Daq again its down and were down there has to be some connection, defiantly something to notice if anyone ever did want to cash out. Still confident losses are due to overall trading not company confidence, this can still be considered a good performance in a bad atmosphere confidence is still strong.
Have a good day every one and don't panic these are the ways of the market.
Keep your head down and the clean X handy harly,
held steady during the day and an 9 point surge holding at 45 after market thats good by anyones standard. I was glad to see the surge coincided with the Daq performance Im some what confident that it is a reliable trend to monitor in the coming days.
With the Dow performing the way it has in recent days a lot of loose volume is being pulled that way. I think thats why the rocky ride this week but we still held strong and battled back. c Ill try and catch yall before the sun comes up.
It just spiked 45 in closing looks like.
$450 Gees is a lot of money in this climate I wonder who or what had the power to move mountains. 20 or 30k off the average volume but it look's like my theory is correct about the Daq connection.
Im going to monitor that for a few days and see what could be developing there especially Rarer minerals and other commodities and how they might affect PTRZ or vise versa. Im still confident though, didn't expect the drop but bullish on the stability.
So I was right according to the link FF gave we are trading on the Daq and its volume is affecting our overall market value. When the Daq performs at a level of loss - moderately we have small gains or steady holdings.
When it out performs the Dow we and scoop up all of the lose volume on the trading floor and we see increases it makes sense as to the climb last month and the decline this month. The numbers always connect.
I m sorry I forgot to say Good morning, Good morning PTRZ Fam, hope the day brings you what you wish, and a solution for what you didn't. Gotta get back to work, see you after lunch Keep an eye on the DAQ and increases or decreases in PTRZ.
All I want are legal trad able shares every thing else will take of itself. or just do what you gotta do.
Now Im starting to think our overall market value is connected to the NASDAQ I was confuses as to why when both markets were up we would hold steady with little or no increase and when they were down we gained
I think when we do gain its from volume drown from the DOW and when we don't its because the Dow gains the out standing points. Right now the Dow is up and we are 1 point low and the DAQ is 8 points low I think if the DAQ rebounds we will see some activity in PTRZ trading. That's a very high volume also for this time of day yesterday it was no where near that.
Have a few minutes so I thought Id see the closing price. This is good its is in the black the company broke even today with a spike of 14 points with again losses across the big boards.
Could be connected could be just a co-winky dink? ;~] hmmm! Stability leads to confidence, confidence attracts investors.
PTRZ is strong during the markets worst times, all through the summer,as well as September and October's worst volume days. This Thursday's call should be very interesting.
Have to get back to work catch y'all before the sun comes up
GO PETRO!!!!!!!!!!!!
It just shot back up.
Thsnks :~` See you guys at closing bell.
Holding my breath till the closing bell.
The big boards are doing well taking away the bottom shares that's the only thing that can explain the seesaw act, when the boards are down were up ,when were down their up. somethings happening to cause those dramatic swings not just regular trades.
Got the Email DD thanks good to know GO. PETRO!!!!!
Hay Hoey sorry I missed the call last night. 9 points in the first hour yea this is good. GOOO PETRO!!!!!!!!!!!
Good morning Petro Fam a grate day to be alive and a part of Petro America Corp. its lovely weather here in New York and I'm hoping for a blizzard that will hit the boards for PTRZ a blizzard of trading that is, were at 45 right now which is down from the 68 but the steady performance in spit of her wows is very promising.
The roller coaster ride yesterday can also be viewed as positive from the stand point that in a day of trading like yesterday PTRZ had enough confidence that leverage buying and selling accrued. getrdone is right don't give in to fear and speculation. hold tight and let the process work.
Im going to be looking in from time to time but I won't be able to actively post with my usual sparing partners because I have a deadline on this recording, and as of late have become too addicted to chatting with you fabulous people. so Ill probably see you guys after lunch.
Welcome to the Board Mauiblue its always good to hear another friendly and encouraging poster. While I must confess my laps of professionalism I concur whole hardily with your statements. See you folks after lunch and may you all have a blessed day.
it was a rough day for just about everyone but it did trade strong for a while there I think if overall market did better then we would have seen a better performance. I m still optimistic right now the week is still young.
its looking to shallow for me right now Let it climb another 3/8 then Ill raise an eyebrow.
Yea a roller Costa ride for sure. But holding at 45 on a day like this is not so bad. I like the fact that confidence is strong on bad days of trading. It suggest to me these numbers suggest to me leverage deals.
Know one knows that better then I but I don't let it cause paralysis and jaded indecision. I try and meet every experience with a fresh positive out look. There's nothing wrong with proceeding with caution but you still must proceed.
If I lived in the past the first time I got booed off stage would have been the end to a career in music that has opened so many other doors in life. I learned and moved on and treat every audience as a new one.
Until the process is completed Ill give Petro and its CEO the benefit of the doubt because as of now aside from the issue of research able assets you have no point, the issues with the SEC have been resolved they found no fault and the stock is trading and doing well considering the circumstances.
I only have 7 post left and don't want to use them on this mundane debate so Ill catch you guys after lunch.
True but if your stuck in it you often miss out on a brighter tomorrow
According to the TA that is now handling the distribution the final list is being sent to Owen this week for approval, one of our posters here (Ill let them reveal themselves if they wish) called the TA and asked them the turn around time after that and they told them it would be relatively quickly after final approval so yes this is going to happen.
The old certificates are receipts and you will be receiving confirmation that your new certificates are electronically stored with the TA and will be wired to the broker of your choosing when they are notified by you to do so.
I don't know why your laughing its a fact that an individual that wasn't a share holder listened in on one of the information calls and made unfounded accusation to the SEC and that's what started the probe, and that's why at a certain point the number was changed and only registered share holders were given the new one fact, not speculation. Again stop letting you personal feelings cloud you judgment.
This stuff is such old news and dealt with that's why the TA was called in and the train is rolling along now.
Well a slow climb has started @.39 lets see what the afternoon brings Ive got to get to work on the album check in after lunch have a blessed a prosperous morning. GO PETRO!!!!!!!!!!!
No I didn't sell @.68 because I'm confident that this downward swing will rebound and no I didn't encourage any one to sell because I feel they will make much more on the up swing. But I m aware the some people were strapped for cash and had to sell, when they did they made more at 68 by listing to me then, oh well you know how this story ends.
And personally I don't go on faith I go on hard information and mathematical projection, but I m not prejudice toward people who do. As I said before Tomato, Tomoto its all the same to me proceeding on an assumption into the unknown based on the information at hand. Call it what you will, You can have all of the information in the world and you investment can still fail for a variety of reasons. You can't fault me for having information you don't have.
And one of the reasons I don't share everything I learn is because Coprate espionage is very real and from my understanding is the reason why the SEC started its now de-funked prob in the first place
And your right listen everyone I disagree with a lot of their statements, but these guys well at least Harly and FF are a health addition to this discussion and should be heard, I just ask that we look at the facts and not get personal with each other.
They make some very valid points concerning proof of assets but their statements weighed against the information provided by Owen only reaffirms my confidence that when the business is completed they will get the answers they want and we as stock holders will be very pleased with the out come. Unfortunately for them it will be to late and the train will have already left the station.
You do seem to have some expertise in the market Harly so instead of constantly berating the hopes of others for a change why don;t you give advice as to what can be done if you turn out to be wrong and the stocks are legitimate what would you suggest would be the best course of action for a person to increase their personal wealth.
And you can be quite clear and state that you are only offering you advise based on the scenario that you are wrong but personally haven't changed your position.
Just as I did when I posted my plan of action if I'm proven wrong and this turns out to be as you and FF said.
And every time you speck you show how suspect your information is. you and your team are constantly trying to berate this company based on the lack of information you have not gathered.
I said it before and Ill keep saying it until the children in the back seat understand you can't just will yourself across country to grandmas house you have to drive the entire 5,000 miles. All of the kicking and touch your little sister won't make the trip go faster.
So far the only argument you present is the lack of your ability to find what you are looking for. So by your logic if you set your plate and no lobster shows up to be eaten then there are no lobsters in the ocean, it never accrued to you that the lobster has its own plan of action.
Petro Stock was only offered to a select few according to your last post yet they have share holders as far away as Canada.
PTRZ was supposed to be failed and gone by now according to you and your crew but its still hear.
Petro Kansas is worthless and has nothing to do with PTRZ according to you and your crew but the TA confirmed we will be receiving tradeable stocks soon.
I don't know any thing but again even though it fell in the 30's those that listened to me and cashed out at 68 mad a lot more than those that listed to you and you crew and cashed out at 20-30 last month.
Keep fishing Ghoul like I said it makes for a balanced discussion, but don't let your personal feeling toward me and the company cloud your judgment. Its the stock market we are all speculating from the information we have or don't have on hand, so far mine have made people money, yours would have loss them money.
Flaflyersfan Not true. They can't offer insider information to individuals looking to invest but to mention to a share holder that they are impressed with the structure of their investment is not offering an opinion of endorsement. Its is up to the individual to interpret as they see fit.
Im inferring that in order for her to make a statement like that she must have been privy to some sort of finical brake down of the company's structure, thats my propagative, not insider information.
Good evening Petro fam. Sorry I couldn't get back to you right away I was in a session all day. Good thing too I missed all of the panic but it's cool Im not so fazed by this.
Thats a lot'a meatball lenacarr. But Ill try to give some perspective.
First off looking at todays decline and the large volume can mean a variety of things one might be a panic and a sell off but I doubt that because it would have tanked even further if that much confidence was lost.
Secondly another leverage move could be considered but jugging from past low volume when that accrued I would rule that out.
The only other option is an individual or investment group with sufficient assets to buy in at a lower rate, affecting the over all market value of the stock (Bulk Purchases).
While it is possible to control the market value of a company in this manner it is also illegal to do it for the purpose you suggest. Unless the purchase price is at a legitimate compensated price that would be Short selling and it is against regulations.
As far as the assets being on the books it still doesn't mean the filing process is finished. Owen and the TA mentioned that there was still some to do. So the "Books" he was referring to might have been the company's portfolio, which still has to be filed.
And yes The regulatory comity has to survey all of the companies assets and see which can comply with regulations as viable insurance against share value. And as XPVP bloged the assets like the gold minds might fall under that category. They are not tangible assets but projected and only would receive partial or no consideration at the time of registration.
XPVP I would like to point out that PTRZ has only percentages
of those minds and extraction might not be their end of the agreement. PTRZ might be the leverage the extracting company needed to produce and refine the ore.
Im still confident PTRZ will make a come back I like the progress so far. When it was at 68 I was confident for $100.00
But if you remember I also was looking for the momentum and Im still concerned that the delays are causing a shift. I still feel it will bounce back but its better to move with the river instead of against it. My advice be patient hold on and see what the week brings.
Hay Hoey Counting down the minutes till opening bell :~1