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Absolutely, doing much the same as some of those other plays get back to pre covid numbers.
Looking forward to April on, as that is hwne this is going to really strt humming
Right now what you are seeing is longs and one time longs
buying shares as money frees up.
This is going to increase as we get more dates and as those dates get closer. That is the beauty of IP plays.
You don't even have to wait for a settlement or win in court, you can simply sell into the speculators that are buying in as court approaches.
Some longs will simply buy in blocks, don't care what price is because they know they are going to make money and right now whats the difference between 3 or 5 cents in price, Others just have limits set up and buy when it hits that price, little or big, just gobbling up shares at a lower price. You still have a few traders that just are buying and selling on price, don't even care what company does.
Next few months this will start being fun to look at every day
Yup! Lots of opportunities to move in and out of this stock making profits, knowing when the actual large pay day looms in the very near future.
I took a ton of grief, and sure enough...
timeline is about where I said it would be...
and sure enough...
where am I?
Right here again ready to make more money...
GLTA to all the longs, I have said many times there is all kinds of ways to make money on this, we all have different strategies,
but if you stick around...
make money you will if you know when to sell.
Im good...don't mind expensive, if need be, looking at possible rewards, it is all relative,
Glad I wasn't in this stock as much as I once was during all of this. So many easy safe places to make good money with little to no down side risk during the last year.
MAIN I bought in at $17, bucks at this price pays a great dividend, and gained almost 100% as well.
APHA I ade a killing on tghis year, about to start moving some funds out of that and back into this once we get some more hard dates to look at and the timeline cements further.
Exxon got really cheap,
Gain got really cheap with dividends on both those stocks and MAIN all paying over 10% at what I bough in at..They are long term income generators. what I will do what most of the profits form this is move that into high yield dividends stocks I like.
This is not much higher than the post 2nd trip PTAB bump. at current PPS. And lots of little dips along the way to add in small blocks.
Betting we see at least 1 more if not 2 more drops below .35 again before it starts to really climb
NEVER promised.
NEVER
Stated he would like to, but promise is a bit strong.
I have not gone through and read all the recent messages.
No real need as there are no new developments. Just re hash of same old stuff, and my positions are quite clear.
Once we cleared the PTAB the 2nd time I bought in some again and have been adding on dips as this summer/fall is when court should begin
I have never said this is anything but a winner, simply of when is all and timeline is important.
The facts of the case are simple-
SG and Tribble reviewed for over 9 months and took case on contingency.
favorable marksman
numerous court wins including 2 stays at PTAb which is a death squad for patents and a stint at CAFC so WDDD has 2 higher courts with opportunities to kick this for 101. they did not.
Willfull infringement can be proved and are thus looking at treble damages.
tribble track record speaks for itself!
World of Warcraft and Call of duty both raked in billions and WDDD IP is fundamental for those games and all MMO's.
Clerical error on the patents so won't get full years here, but will in future suits, WDDD did not want to re-file so they moved ahead with current suit .
Judge Casper a=has basically stated there is merit to this court case.
AND what noone ever says is Activision has not once said we aren't using your patents, only that their patents are not valid. 2 Higher courts have basically cemented their validity,
I mad a ton of money on this a few times now, and am ready to make more. A LOT more.
So don't worry about me, I own shares, more than a few, and might add more as time goes by and other investments I start moving money out
I have been pretty spot on as far as a lot of things go, plenty of people have called me a basher, or not a real long, don't care. I don't even care about WDDD, I care about making money, and this is ready to start making money again this year.
101 cleared, discovery cleared, and Casper should be lining up things to set up court date with all of the motions and such leading up to that.
Casper will be setting up her calendar for the
year basically for this case and other cases.
Solidify the timeline, which will bring in investors as gives a better idea of some key catalysts moving forward Once 101 motion is cleared, which should be a no brainer for Casper seeing as it has been addressed by 2 higher courts already. Some think there will be a pop, and might be, but I am not counting on it, nor am I counting on a settlement from anyone before the court house steps.
My opinion is the largest pop before any settlement will be the month or two leading up to the actual court date, and it will be more of a steady climb. A lot of old investors still have this on watch lists. Once they know with a higher degree of certainty when that court date, money will be coming back as teh dead money wait will be much shorter,
And long term investors will be adding anymore they can afford or want.
DO your research, this board is so filled with info. It has been a very long process, that is nearing its end.
Bought back in when we cleared the PTAB the second time.
Have a position, might add more.
Simply depends on what happens when. And more importantly the price it happens at.
He hasn't been posting, because there is nothing to really post about. We are nearing the home stretch, it is simply going through the calendar now set out by Casper. I would assume Casper wants this off her dockets.
PTAB and CAFC both deal with this particular issue and both of those higher courts had opportunities to kick this out and did not.
PTAB had 2 cracks at it.
101 motion had already been resolved by those courts,
so we are going through the process crossing the T's and dotting the I's leading up to court date.
The big pay day on this is going to be summer - fall of 2021.
Days leading up to trial date will be nice gains.
SHould see a settlement from ATVI as WDDD has favorable marksman hearing.
Wins at PTAB (TWICE)
Win at CAFC
One of the top 5 IP firms in country took case on contingency after reviewing for 9 months which included the source code.
WDDD asked ATVI if they wanted to license IP, ATVI said no so looking at willfull infringement which is treble damages.
One thing that is important nobody ever talks about.
ATVI has never said they have not infringed, only that patents are invalid.
Essentially WDDD has them dead to rights.
WDDD IP is fundamental to all MMO gaming so infringing list is quite substantial as is the revenue generated by those companies.
WDDD has a long list of court preceedings along the way with numerous opportunities to shut this down by the courts, and WDDD has emerged victorious each time adding another court validation with each preceeding passed.
I am still around by the way.
See lots of new faces.
See lots of old ones still too.
I was talking about the sheer size, not exactly population.
Been to chicago during the winter which is as bad if not worse than summer in Houston.
I will take New mexico weather year round though...
The nine-county Houston-The Woodlands-Sugar Land Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA) covers 9,444 square miles, an area larger than five states: New Hampshire, New Jersey, Connecticut, Delaware and Rhode Island.
That is how big it is Iceland is slightly larger than Houston,
Well come down to Houston...then we can talk about size...:)
699 mi2 to less than 300 for Chicago....
Talking about the split that already happened a long time ago
Of course it is quiet,
this has gone on for a LONG time now,
been discussed ad nauseum about almost everything,
so until new suits are filed, existing suits move forward, or a ruling comes down, there isn't much to discuss.
Simply buy share or sell shares or do neither.
Summer of 2021 is when this kicks into high gear....
Bingo...its hurry up and wait....a lot f stuff going to be going on, look at the calendar.
Her decision will come down i would think before the next item on calendar
So before January 14th which is close of discovery.
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Not only do they hold the patents, they created them.
Not a holding company who bought them.
Also another nice point.
:)
Correct that....PTAB has held up these patents TWICE, and CAFC as well.
that s a huge deal, they had 2 cracks at them.
for those who forget PTAB stands for Patent Trial Appeal Board...
it is what they do...and they have been called a Death Squad on more than 1 occasion. They are dicey as dicey gets, and Worlds walked out of there 2 times.
Presentations are nice, but case law is case law. Casper is not some activist Judge, she goes by the book from all the research back in the day.
She is smart no nonsense Judge who relies on precedent and procedure.
We solid IMHO on everything that s why I say we good in Summer 2021
and you all know I tend to be less pie in the sky than most here.
I always say look at possible what if this bad happens or that,
This is Casper simply crossing all the T's and dotting all the I's.
Putting her stamp on it so that if any appeal comes up...
SHe can simply say- look at the case file. I stand by this.
My name is on it, it is by the book.
I guess my real question is why are they sticking with Helge?
IS he just doing all this prelim stuff, and then Tribble comes in for trial?
No volume, this is just whims of retail.
There will not be any large run up because WDDD wins 101 argument.
Any run ups coming up will be short lived, and then right back to where we are unless something big happens. There is always that what if...
been hearing that what if for years now...
just buy when it dips if you add shares, and wait till summer 2021 as that is when this moves hard up.
I am much more positive as a few things have happened. We cleared the PTAB which is/was the biggest hurdle to WDDD. and unless someone new brings up a new IPR we are moving forward.
and
Casper has a timeline in place. Now it is just letting the timeline play out, let all the procedures be followed.
Once the general market stabilizes and a bunch of stuff gets back to normal pre pandemic pricing, will be moving profits back in hereto add to my position.
Welcome to the club.
There will be no criminal proceedings involved...
Come on now
Even then, it will not settle before an actual court date is issued.
WDDD has them dead to rights, they both know it.
The only thing that will create a quick settlemet is a huge discount, HUGE.
Math says keep running the lawyers out there
That is true, and ATVI is looking at treble damages,
but that is in the future. Not right now, right now is 101 motions, and all of the other stuff on the calendar, and until all of that gets cleared, and they can try no more tactics to end or delay this, that is when the incentive to settle will be real.
We both have our opinions, and a lot of people agree with you.
The difference if they settle now or at court house steps,
WDDD will not give them a big enough discount to settle this right now.
The math says keep running out lawyers right now.
Summer of 2021 is the earliest.
I am saying all of the court costs leading up to the courthouse steps, all of this along the way is but pennies to them.
Its real money to WDDD and they know this, yes S&G is on contingency, but the rest of the attorneys are not, and all of the court stuff will be factored into that contingency, its all billable hours if we win.
which is why they will not settle early.
not till of of the hail marys are thrown, all of the court procedures they can get away with are expended.
ATVI has no incentive to settle this anytime soon...
the common practice is try to bleed the company dry, get them desperate so they will settle for less. ATVI does not even consider, hey if we settle now, it will costs us a little less, WDDD would not settle low enough so the math says....keep running attorneys out there.
Everyone has their own way of doing things.
Long term this is a winner, short term till end of the year just saying temper expectations of a big or sustained price increase unless the market overall gets back to where it was before all of this COVID stuff went down
The main reason you aren't seeing the buying you want is that there are way too many safe easy high retrn investments right now in the market until those get back into normal trading ranges, why put money here which might go up or down on retail whim.
Big safe high return investments are available and will make 50% or more on money while we wait on this to move along its path.
Make money elsewhere move profits into this as those returns start to shrink. Many have a position just in case the "settlement can happen any day" or some major change boosts this up tremendously.
Right now its simple math, and the math is not in WDDD favor with current market conditions.
10 bagger, 20 bagger, or more people say if buy in now, still be that way in December.
to ATVI it is but pennies, this does not get settled before 2021.
It might be, but I do not think it will be.
might see small bump, but with the timeline the way it is and the people that know what this is or are looking at it it really should be an expected outcome.
Hail Mary, as PTAB had 2 chances and CAFC 1 chance already to have shut all of this down via 101.
Those are judges and courts much more well versed on subject matter than Casper is. Would be crazy for her to go against that, but stuff happens.
I have shares, and will buy more after all of the regular stocks get back up to normal areas, and as this moves closer.
I bought after WDDD cleared the PTAB which is what I said would be doing.
and yes I have bought shares cheaper than what I sold them for.
:more than what I can buy right now for, but not buying here.
:)
Nope...
I don't need to scare anybody into doing anything nor am I.
just every month for years now.
Maybe even every week, somebody is saying ...
oh they can settle every day, and for years I have been saying, NOPE.
I said, about how long it will take, been watching and working the timeline for years now, and not been way off on anything I have said.
Been shouted down every time I try to give a realistic view of the process and how long it will take,
or accused of just what you did, oh he is trying to run the price down...
NOPE>
DO you even read messages?
Obviously if you read them you don't comprehend them, and since you don't like me repeating myself, I won't.
I guess I need to, but if you don't understand the message was about ATVI throwing up hail mary's with hopes and dreams of their 101 motion and all of the other stuff they will try to invalidate the patents, that somehow they sneak out a win along the way
then I don't know what to tell you.
We shall see what discvery brings, being as there is ongoing litigation, I can't imagine a smoking gun is lying around.
Will be interesting to see what is, and what WDD actually goes looking for in particular.
But as you know, I just get tired of people who think this is somehow going to speed up, because they think that is what is fair, or right,
or its a no brainer, why even have a litigation process,
just say hey I got you dead to rights give me money and ATVI is going to say...yeah..
You got me...
Agree with you ...
not going anywhere
Still talking about settlement could happen any day now?
No it won't.
Still thinking this is going to be quick or will speed up,
No it wont.
It is all courts and procedure. Things have to follow a certain timeline, which has been laid out. ATVI won't do anything or think about anything till 101 issue has been cleared. They shouldn't win, should be a no brainer, but stuff happens. It just does. Sometimes the hail Mary wishing on a hope and a dream comes through.
These little stops and court appearances and motions are but mere pennies to ATVI. Until all their hail Marys fail they will keep throwing them up until they run out of options, you guys seem to think that oh if they settle early they save some money. ATVI don't care, they will wriggle and squirm and try to sneak out of paying the piper, till they can't anymore. Plain and simple.
Bungie settling? Why would they? If I am not mistaken, are they even in litigation process with WDDD at this time?
July 22nd is hearing for 101, should be some interesting reading leading up to that. Can't wait to see how ATVI plans to go at that wth CAFC and PTAB nether one throwing it out on those grounds, now ask a District Court Judge to do it instead, so WDDD can get that appealed and makes her look bad, I think not...
the most interesting part will be just how long Casper takes to rule on that motion, a quick ruling in my opinion will be her saying, enough crap the clock is ticking, and ATVI is running out of time...
just my 2 cents.
so should be some nice drama moving forward.
it is possible, won't say it is not possible, but a 101 ruling against is highly improbable, but at the moment that is the biggest hurdle in the way
Please stop suggesting or thinking ATVI is going to settle quickly or soon.
It is just silly to think that, I know any day now..any day now I have heard for a few years now.
We have a schedule of events, we know what is going down and if anybody thinks ATVI is going to settle before that 101 issue is resolved, then you don't really understand what that is.
I like others think they have no chance , but till it is settled that is their get out of jail free card.
AND THEY WON"T SETTLE till that gets pulled, that is the earliest possible time they would even consider settling
Timeline sounds very standard, yes nobody likes the extra time that will take, but it is what it is, there are procedures to follow.
and as White Owl said, a lot of people will get out and buy back later, others like him will just keep adding along the way.
The facts have not changed.
S&G, Tribble, contingency after 9 months of due diligence,
treble damages, favorable marksman, favorable PTAB twice,
favorable CAFC, changed landscape and a lot of court wins that simply add layers of legitimacy on WDDD.
Casper will have read through all of it, knows the Judges that looked at the case before her at both PTAB and CAFC know what they are doing, know their background,
oh and the court timeline should be stickied or posted outside of messages, that is stuff that will want to go back and reference.
So timeline is set, know when the big moments are moving forward, so if not ready for at least 1 more year, don't fool yourself it will be a year....