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Major_Droppers continue to be solid performers as shorts. This has been posted over & over going back years, whether it be here or on the old board. Nothing seems to change the situation. Up or down market. Short side on these gems is hitting 80%-83% overall for more than 1100 stocks now tracked back to Jan 2002, the difference in the percentage being the amount looked for.
Current last 1 month totals are in the 86% to 92% range, again depending on the conservative target profit looked for.
The concept has always been to take a conservative, small, constant profit on maginable stocks with good volume to assure easy in/easy out trading. Don't want a low volume stock in these to end up getting stuck in.
At 2%/4% margin gain it is the higher level of 89-92% success rate. That is about 9 of every 10 hitting a profit. At 2.5%/5% gain it is about 85-87%, or roughly 8 1/2 profit wins out of every 10 traded. Consistant, constant, compounded gains. Doesn't matter the industry or the reason for the drop. All in all a very simple way to make daily income.
There were 6 Major_Droppers yesterday. 5 already hit the conservative target: EMBT, MUSE, KVHI, LSCC, ESPD. Only miss so far was VRTS. This would be Day 1 or the suggested maximum 5 day hold period to hit target.
In the last month there have been 44 qualified Major_Droppers. As of today's close, 40 hit 2%/4% short side target, 38 hit 2.5%/5% short side target.
Easy money constantly.
it's pretty obvious that the subject of any otc even for folks to get info in private hits hard nerves, so my apologies for attempting to share.
a post was made stating
"A penny stock ALREADY up 600% in 14 days and you want us to buy and hold for 30-60 days in a crap market with the HOPE that it goes up another another 100% ???
NO THANKS!
I will NOT be the future bag holder of your penny stock."
No one suggested anyone buy the stock, and the post specifically said that the stock was already up 600% in a few weeks so that anyone who wanted info knows upfront that it has had a massive run already.
The post was to share in private so as not to put otc on the board, the dd that has been gathered already for folks to make an informed decision.
Wanted others to have the opportunity to look at it more closely, instead of hearing about it after we who are already in it make another 50-100%.
I'm already up 600% and happily smiling. Thanks to the person who opened my eyes to it very early.
Dr Worm- thank you, but I am aware of the other boards already. This board & the people on it who I've 'known' for many years are the folks I'd like to give the heads up to to hopefully benefit from this stock.
I'm sure the otc boards you mention are already talking it as well.
due to the no OTC rules the board has, wont post on a stock that is going up almost daily. Those with a little gamble in their blood, this one has gone up 600% in 2 weeks & IMO! could have another 100% in the next 1-2 months or quicker. Not my pick ,,I was lucky enough to have it suggested to me when it was .11..
Anyone wanting to know the stock and where to do some dd on it, please email me here.
the real R- Party Poker..and yes for real $$, tho you can also play in the "free for fun" area
yayaa: I wish I could claim a strategy. The main things I stick to are not playing for flops unless I have a solid opening hand. J-10 & upbove or something suited that is close together for a possible flush or straight, such as 9-6. I don't play a hand simply becaus eI am in the blind.
If I have any specific statagy, it is to think past my hand. I not only look at what I could have, but what is on the board that spmeone else could have to beat me. I watch to see who is raising & will get out of the way of a strong raiser. But at the same time I watch to see if that raiser is winning. If not, then they are just trying to steal the pot, and then I have their number.
There is so much more, but this is a start.
DeaconMike-looked for you on Party Poker this afternoon.. was on a $1/$2 table of absolutely the worst players I've seen there. No matter who left & who came in, it was the same. Picked up $325 for 2 hours 'work'. Think holiday weekends or Saturday's should be renamed Patsyday.
When Can You Turn Pro?
James "Rev Shark" De Porre at RevShark@aol.com
7/2/04
On Wednesday I wrote a couple of articles about the struggles of a new trader. Columns of that sort always trigger a very difficult question: How much capital should someone have before they should attempt to try trading as a full-time job?
It is very hard question to answer, because there are so many subjective considerations. The foremost one is, what is your cost of living? Some folks can live on $30,000 while others will struggle on $200,000. If you have a working spouse or other sources of income, that also changes the picture considerably.
Whatever your situation might be, you want to make sure you have your living costs covered for at least one year. Assuming you are not a complete novice to start with, one year should be a long enough period of time for you to assess whether you are cut out for the trading business. Of course, if the market trends in one direction the entire time, you may not really be able to evaluate your long-term ability to handle all sorts of different markets.
Assuming you have your living costs covered either by separate savings or other sources of income, how much capital do you need to dedicate to trading to make a go of it? The answer depends in large part on your style of trading. The shorter your time frame and the greater your turnover, the less capital you probably need. A longer-term position trading style would usually require greater capital, because you are not turning over your trades as qui>>
The real dilemma here is that if you are trading ultra-short-term, you can probably get away with quite a bit less capital, but you have higher risk. The more capital you have, the more patient you can be with trades. Traders with limited capital who are trying to generate some fast gains often find themselves churning their account and being slowly nibbled to death by minor losses.
I'm not suggesting that a longer-term time frame is always safer, but having enough capital so that you have the ability to be patient with trades and stay diversified to some degree is a major advantage at various times. Being forced to sell just to move the money elsewhere can be quite costly.
All of that is my long-winded way of saying you probably need a minimum of $100,000 up to $500,000 in capital before you should try quitting your job and trading full time. Remember, there are no guarantees, and if your timing is poor, you may not succeed even though you do possess the requisite skill.
If you are able to establish yourself in the trading business, it is one of the best jobs in the world. Your hard work and efforts will be rewarded over time, but Lady Luck is always lurking about to keep things interesting.
TASR news!- expect major boomage
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In-Custody Death Lawsuit Against TASER(R) International Dismissed
No Medical Evidence Linking TASER(R) Device to Death
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SHGY incredible play,, terrific call +350% & not selling yet
Posted by: kdkd
In reply to: None Date:7/1/2004 4:14:32 PM
Post #of 21517
SHGY what a play :)
Major_Dropper INFA, down 15.2% on a downgrade & no other news
has had 10 Major_Droppers in last 3 years, all have had long side profit on Day 1
(also had a short profit on Day 1, but the long side was much better)
in order from most recent the hod on Day 1 has been
+3.8% (day 2 went to +6.2%, day 4 went to +8.5%), +17.1, +9.3, +14.2, +16.9, +24.9%, +8.4%, +only bad one +0.6%, +16%
fun for the 4th
http://www.njagyouth.org/liberty.htm
Major_Popper XING has has 16 pop days in the last 3 years..the results for a max 5 day hold are quite impressive for longs.. 14 hit nice profits, 2 misses,, the hod numbers within 5 day max hold were
119.9%, 100.1%, 74.1%, 40.0%, 22.6%, 6.6%, 26.7%, 18.0%, 5.0%, -4.7%, 12.7%, 1.6%, 11.0%, 9.6%, 6.2%, 22.8%
a note re: XING.. short side happens to be very good too on those past popper days, so it indicates good swings for the next days
yes RunninAmuck, it was a 2.62 stock..many are not able to short it, some are. The post was to point out that it would not be a hold for more profit based on the awful follow thru numbers that it has had on previous Major_Popper days(even though it would not qualify as a Major_Popper based on price).
This was a take the profit & run player imo.
XNVA Major_Popper numbers are hugely strong on short side with virtually no long side value in follow thru days.
short time today for XNVA, was a beauty long play,,expect it to now drop off with the CNBC story played out
XNVA hod 2.58 +44%,,NICE!!!!!!
(love the edit feature!)
CLWT short side from the close of past 4 pop days (when volune was over 100k..way over actually) has been ATM machine..within a few day short side gain was 45%, 12%, 12% 18%
XNVA gamble paid off +11%
Posted by: mflutie
In reply to: None Date:6/28/2004 4:33:05 PM
Post #of 21314
in XNVA- cocaine vaccine on CNBC tomorrow at 9am.. they are crack addition co.... folks say saw the label & it's XNVA,, worth the roll of the dice for me..
make your own gamble.
short CLWT for crash back
yes!! Hanes previews the 'drug that can help Cocaine addicts kick the habit" ,, and XNVA headquarters building was shown with it's name
jjkool_01-lol..what one finds on the net when not even looking....
to say this is a uniquely named Yahoo poster would be.. well would be a mouthful...
http://profiles.yahoo.com/would_you_like_tits_with_that/?.src=prf&.done=http%3a//finance.message....
in XNVA- cocaine vaccine on CNBC tomorrow at 9am.. they are crack addition co.... folks say saw the label & it's XNVA,, worth the roll of the dice for me..
make your own gamble.
petegunn- TTN Major_Dropper numbers certainly worked out,, best lod was +9.5% and the close saw it on short saide at +8.1%.
Argyll..see post #4 on this board as well as post #30 on the Searchguy.com Raging Bull board for some answers
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=3362556
http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=SHGY&read=30
petegunn re: TTN for a bounce.
this Major_Dropper has a nice history that could signify a lean to a long play for the bounce you are asking about.
Here are the previous numbers on past Major_Dropper moves.
(unfortunately, these numbers will not line up well.)
Pop % Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5
-12.0% 5.9% 3.0% 0.1% -1.0% 0.4%
-28.5% 9.7% 7.1% 5.9% 5.7% 3.5%
-16.3% 3.8% -3.5% 1.0% 5.1% 5.8%
-13.1% 0.1% 7.0% 4.3% 4.3% 4.3%
-14.8% -1.4% 2.1% -1.0% -7.3% -8.6%
-17.3% 3.1% 7.1% 19.8% 46.1% 47.7%
-12.2% 6.4% 4.1% 6.3% -2.7% -10.6%
History on TTN here shows that there have been 7 Major_Dropper days in the last 3 years.
5 of the 7 hit a bounce back hod of at least 3.1% on Day 1 after the drop. Another Major_Dropper day took till Day 2 to get hod +7%. And the last one acheived only +2.1%.
Pretty good history as a smaller bounce back stock.
On the short side the numbers are these
Pop % Day 1 Day 2 Day 3 Day 4 Day 5
-12.0% -0.6% -1.0% -4.8% -5.2% -2.4%
-28.5% -0.2% 2.2% 2.2% -0.9% -0.2%
-16.3% -6.1% -5.7% -4.3% -0.1% 2.4%
-13.1% -21.7% -7.6% -2.4% -1.0% -2.4%
-14.8% -12.4% -3.4% -14.5% -17.2% -23.8%
-17.3% -4.3% -0.6% 11.4% 20.8% 33.0%
-12.2% -1.1% -0.6% -5.2% -14.7% -19.3%
This actually is the stronger side imo if a person can have a little patience.
Of those 7 majorDropper days, 6 reached a short side profit of at least 4.3%. The one that missed making a short side profit within the max 5 day hold period I look at, did not hurt the trader much, hitting a best hod of 2.2%, and at anytime within the 5 day hold the trader could have gotten out pretty close to even.
magician has an $8.00 target for TTN. I don't set a target like that, but I will agree that the short side is indicated as the way to go.
Hope the numbers presented here give you an idea of which way to go with TTN.
petegunn re: TTN for a bounce...please see my answer posted on the Winners Circle board
The SHGY board is not the place to answer it.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=3434598
RunninAmuck- re: TSYS..no clear indication from anything I look at that TSYS is a pretty solid short.
Strictly from the historic numbers point of view, as a Major_Popper on June 23 when it went up 13.3%, it's previous history ws very solid as a short on Day 1 ONLY. Equally the long side was strong on Day 1. Succeeding days showed equal as well with sporadic moves on long & short side.
So no clear cut defining way to lean with it.
I know nothing about the company to give any opinion other than the numbers stated.
IRISHBULL- yes Winners Circle board is a good one. We established it from the folks who either left voluntarily or were banned from lion.com. When we set it up, we de cided no otc to avoid the nasty pumps that can sometimes occur. And it has bitten us back bec ause recently I posted GZFX & had a big problem on the board, even though from the post it went +60% in a week. Now with SHGY I'd love for the traders there to be able to know about it & mnake their decision's before it rises much more. But those no otc rules get in the way.
Anyway, in SHGY for what I expect to be a nice ride up. I'm usually not an otc player, infrequent at best, but this one has my faith.
glad to find this board for SHGY.. been in since a certain Californian clued me into the potential for SHGY @ .11 & added up to .15. Last few weeks have been a nice, slow steady climb with few dips. As the word gets out, the volume should increase towards to Google IPO.
This one is easy to hold 'feeling' the terrific potential it has. See all smart holders into Google IPO.
skipping SIMG,, should have bot $11.89 when I posted the numbers, from there it has moved up 3%
short LWAY $13.30
Major_Popper past history numbers are not a lengthy history to use, but it does show that LWAY recently gives back much of it's gains after a Major_Popper day.
long SIMG at close on Major_Popper history...
31 Major_Popper moves over the last 3 years with 28 of them paying long side profits of +2.5% and greater (much greater in many of them) with in 1 to 2 days.
Ledgejumper- the Major_Droppers system is not completed yet. The database is still being filled in. Due to my personal situations, it has taken longer to do then originlly expected. Right now it's up to the middle of the letter N.
If you or any other system owners want the incompleted database now, just email me & I will send it out. In the future when the database is completed, it will be sent out.
robh,, what the systems do is simply take the stocks that have popped up +12% or more (Major_Poppers, or with the new Major_Droppers, stocks that have dropped -12% or greater, and look at the previous history of past similar moves to see how that stock performed in the next days.
Some stocks will display a strong tendency to continue in the same direction, that is Major_Poppers continuing up or Major_Droppers continuing down., and will therefore can be looked at as good long plays. Other stocks will show that they drop right back after a big move up,that traders have always taken their quick profits on a big move & the stock has dropped back to the previous area befor ethe move. These cpold be seen as probable good short plays. And finally there will be stocks that show both long & short sides are basically equal, and those would be the sort of stocks to avoid trading because there is no set definitive historic move.
The spreadsheets in the systems make it easy to see all these past moves. They basically pull up all these previous pop up or down down & show the next days so anyone can then make their own determination of how to play a stock, or whether to play it at all.
Ledgejumper...updating on the Major_Poppers & Major_Droppers that were posted on Wednesday as qualifying for trades.
This is Day 1 of the max 5 day hold period for these style plays, so there could still be room to play these is one was so inclined.
Being conservative & using the +2.5%/5% margin profit goal level that has been discussed often saw
3 of the 4 Major_Poppers hit on the long side
3 of the 4 Major_Poppers hit on the short side
3 of the 4 Major_Droppers hit on the long side
4 of the 4 Major_Droppers hit on the short side
The Major_Poppers that qualified
OSUR closed @ $9.44 +22.4%..long went +0.7% short went +3.8%
AAIE closed @ $5.65 +17.0%..long went +3.3% short went +3.5%
MATR closed @ $23.97 +13.8%..long went +5.2% short went -0.1%
ESMC closed @$10.34 +13.6%..long went +6.9% short went +3.5%
The Major_Droppers that qualified
CECO closed @ $44.10 -24.7%..long went +5.4% short went +7.4%
LACO closed @ $9.80 -22.0%..long went +3%% short went +5.3%
INYV closed @ $11.38 -17.5%..long went +3.8% short went +2.5%
PFGC closed @$27.21 -18.5% ..long went +0.3% short went +3.5%
NVEC worked to perfection today as long play from yesterday. HOD topped out at +11.4% for another solid long winner to continue the history numbers.
It was a Mjor_Popper during the day which we shorted @ $39.30 & took a quick $3.00 profit in 20 minutes towards the end of the day. Even though it fell out of Major_Popper status, a buy was made at close of day based on it's history of follow thru numbers.
These were yesterdays' numbers posted to system owners and later in chat.
"NVEC Major_Popper has such a very solid record for follow thru days on the long side.
Of the last 17 Major_Popper days over +12% since last June 6, 2003, ALL have paid long profits.
13 hit on Day 1 from 4.4% to 24.1%. 3 that didn't hit on Day 1 hit on Day 2, with the lowest move up being 6.6%.The June 6, 2003 pop took 3 days but hit for +48% on Day 3.
Solid long side numbers.
The only caution to this is that Major_Poppers have been for quite some time very solid shorts in this market & people are taking quick profits."
Ledgejumper...skipped QADI today due to questionable volume for last 1 month dropping to 80k daily. It does qualify but there are others that are so much easier to play. When a stock has that low a recent volume, it might be too difficult to get out of at the target price, so imo move on to others.'
The Major_Poppers that qualified today are
OSUR closed @ $9.44 +22.4%
AAIE closed @ $5.65 +17.0%
MATR closed @ $23.97 +13.8%
ESMC closed @$10.34 +13.6%
The Major_Droppers listed for today are
CECO closed @ $44.10 -24.7%
LACO closed @ $9.80 -22.0%
INYV closed @ $11.38 -17.5%
PFGC closed @$27.21 -18.5%
will review these in the next few days to see how they have performed.
p.s. ,,if there are things that I can help you with the make better use of the systems, please contact me. I am not in daily as much as before due to taking care of dad, but will respond to email questions.
Funtagious
yes, Major_poppers or Major Droppers are as you posted
"Stocks in play, stocks in the news, stocks due to run acutely in one direction or another?"
There is no 'come out with a list". This is simply showing how all the Major_Poppers so far in June and how they have done as shorts. As previously always stated, the numbers are to the best hod or the best lod within the 5 day max hold period.
What the system does is show the history of these movers on previous occasions and how they did in the days following that pop or drop. It will give the trader the basis for a new trade either going long or short.
For this post, as in many previous posts, the numbers here are showing the overall Major_Poppers move for short side profits in the days after a pop. This has been a continual and consistant winning play for many months.
The systems are designed to hold to a maximum of 5 days after a Major_Popper move (up 12% or more on a day) or a Major_Dropper move (down 12% or more for a day)