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ya, It will change at the open, but to compare, etrade is showing .0044-.007
I'll probably sell a few at .032 also, good advice!
1 from me too, and a big virtual hug!
your right, anything is possible, I watch the trading every day trying to get a handle on whats happening but its beyond me. some times I'm sure its the company or a pipe holder selling, but volume doesn't support that. the float would be huge by now and trading should be much higher. maybe soon the company will clear this up, sure hope so.
mike, it could also be the last of the PIPE selling, I believe phillip setup some new investors,(or claimed he did) this could be another reason for his leaving.
I agree they need someone more polished, for now I'm happy with e-mailing the company, at least they respond. might be the best way to communicate with us for awhile, its real easy to delete an irate e-mail.
mike, thanks for sharing. pretty much says what most were thinking.
it isn't, but the ride back to 3.50 is going to be FANTASTIC!!
deadheded, with only 1.5 mil. shares traded it sure doesn't look like "bailing" infact the trading looks pretty even on the buys and sells.
E-mailed the company about phillip, asked who would be handling investor relations, reply, at this time please refer all questions to the company. again, got a very fast response.
half hour till the start of trading, got a feeling we are really going to take a hit today, IF phillip was really not getting paid he must have a bunch of shares that were given to him instead of cash payment, there are probably at least a few others that will leave along with him. should be a great day to pick up some cheap shares, to bad I'm out of bullets.
it will be interesting to see how the company handles this event, will they be upfront, tell us what has happened and what their plans are or will they try to sweep it under the rug. if they really care about shareholders we should hear something.
schiltgen, could you tell us more of the conversation.
Prosper, don't know if its true but that poster mentioned something simular about a week ago. don't know of anyone who has spoken or recieved an e-mail reply from phillip in some time. I know he hasn't bothered to answer 3 I sent him in the past couple of weeks, I always get reply from the company when I have e-mailed them. In the past I have tryed to stick up for phillip, but not responding to shareholders is bull---!
I called another penny I'm in today and spoke to the CEO.
durden, thats great, another dot on the map! its filling in nicely. thanks for doing this, it is appreciated!!!
the fact that the share price doesn't fall below .005 is a good point, although if you consider how far they have fallen, its awful close to rock bottom. I realy don't have a definite answer but there are posibilities. one, if everything played out like I suggested, the company knows what's going on, have threatened legal action and know who the short sellers are. ( this would have come out when they changed names and the ticker)they have filed a law suit. another possibility is there are buyers ready below .005, by selling to them they would end up on the list again.
deadheded, one, if they sold shares they didn't have it WAS naked shorting, thats what naked shorting is. two, is it just coincidence that the company changed its name, ticker and transfer agent just before going on the list. three, we are not talking about a few shares, we talking about atleast 12 million shares, it could have been much more, we don't know the actual number. and last, I'm not saying that naked shorting is happening now, but its very possible it has happened in the past.
I agree helm, we shouldn't talk about it to much, but when we have a few posters who keep bringing up the AH and stating they haven't seen any signs of naked shorting, then once in a while we need to remind people there are other posibilities.
I just remembered more of the naked shorting article and the advice to companies, change you name and ticker so shares have to be accounted for, this happened just before HFBV was put on the threshold list. also change your issuer, yep they did that too. and one more, consider a merger, again so the shares get accounted for. this is definitly a very possible explanation (one of a few) for the AH shares, just trade them around between a couple of houses so they don't have to be covered.
mlthomas, I only know of the 2 stores in Fla. sorry.
allthough I can't prove it, naked shorting seems to be the best explanation for the fall in share price of HFBV. just look at the chart, read past PR's, study up on naked shorting.
HFBV looks like a text book example. awhile ago I read an article to CEO's on what they should do if they believe it has happened, unfortunatly there isn't alot you can do, but the advice they gave was, don't go public with the information, shareholders will probably panic, concentrate on building your business and issue regular PR's updating shareholders. sound familiar?
deadheded, every time some one brings up naked shorting we get this reponse from you, you KNOW it was on the threshold list (rule####) for sure there was naked shorting, we just don't know to what extent.
projectsmith, you are right inline, the energy shot info should have been up on the website before the PR went out, thats why I e-mailed the company. think about it, your a new investor, you just read the PR, and the product isn't on the website. WTF! the same thing happened with the spencers PR, product is now in stores! then we find out that its really at the main distribution point and will actually be "in the stores" about 2 weeks later, again WTF! whats wrong with just saying "we have shipped to spencers and it will soon be available"
prosper, I don't know whats up with phillip, he hasn't answered e mails for some time. I keep asking here if anyone has heard from him but don't ever get a reply so I assume no one has. I agree that the company could do more to boost the share price, but I feel that the PR's of the past month along with listing product locations is a great start.
danrpoints, gainsville spencers is one of the fl. stores on the list, maybe you can check.
prosper, the company can, and I assume will, do something about the games when the time is right. we just have to wait till it all plays out.
these lies put out by their former PR company along with the smear campaign and probable naked shorting run by them when HFBV called foul is why the share price is where its at.
this history is also why the price hasn't reacted to all the recent news, the market wants to see something concrete before they will jump in, until that happens the best we can expect is a day trading run. IMHO!
prosper, thanks for the link, found some interesting information there.
sent the company an E-mail, got a very quick response. asked them when the new energy shot info and pics will be on the website, answer, they hope to have it on the website within a week. guess we will have to keep checking. anyone have any luck contacting phillip? I have sent him a few e-mails with no answer. the company answers fairly quickly.
new pics of the latin festival have been added to HFBV website on the community page. hoping to see pics of the new AD shot soon.
as to the spencers stores and the man that gave us the list, has anyone heard anything from chefapk? the last time he posted was sept.26, strange that he just faded away. also has anyone called or have been to any of the spencers he gave to people? I called the 2 he gave me in fl. one didn't know anything, the second said they expected it in last wed. then we heard about the delay and I haven't called back, will try to call this week and see if I learn anything new. anyone else have anything to report on the stores he gave out??
weaselman, good catch on "the paw" I never noticed it either.
good find helm, even though we have known about AD for some time, Its still new to alot of people. definitly a very positive article.
danrpoints, the PR was put out at 10AM fri.
as far as I know nobody has seen the shots yet, I would expect something on the website, maybe on the products page shortly. this is one of the reasons the share price didn't move, good PR with no follow threw.
good to see they are reading the board and acting on it!
do you think if we all asked for an update on the outstanding shares we might get it? seems like thats the only thing thats going to move the share price.
well, IF its true and thats a big IF as she is there pumping another stock, theres a real easy solution, become fully reporting and move to at least the BB. it would sure be great for us!
the "out of stock" at the online store could be a very good thing. hopefully its like they say, just taking care of customers and distributors first. they now have atleast 140 stores, spencers and the caribean distributor to supply, and thats just the ones we know of.
no, we label people bashers when they never post anything that isn't a bash on the company, allways looking on the negative side, they never see anything good. remind you of anyone mark???
I think you might be underestimating cali. Mr Reyes has been on the job well over a month, his contacts in the hispanic market could be paying off by now.