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At least a year ago when I was lied to. Why bother calling when its lies all the time. You just don't get it or are being paid to pump this company. There can be no other reason that I can think of. I want an independent auditing firm to tell me what they have,what their net is and verifiable gross numbers. 2 1/2 years and counting and no audit in sight-what does that tell you all. Summit Summit Summit- This company has made a great story that is still being told and not one bit is true or for that matter verifiable which is the key word here. Verifiable-that is what this company should be all about. When i see postings from Ben by others I know this is a huge scam. Tell Ben to post or is it illegal and liable for him to do so. You will all see the light shortly......good night and may your investment dreams come true!
Your right-I do have the numbers but to listen and believe anything on the other side of a BDGR telephone would be like believing in all the PR's from the last two years. And I have called plenty of people just not those employed with BDGR!!!!Good luck to you and all you hang out with.
Don't count on it-only BDGR!!!
Jmap- Remember it was you who told adam to call you asap? You are tied into this mess that I am sure of. Sec is looking into this and don't bet a dime that they won't take action now given two years of lies and dozens of false PRs. US attorneys will also help the matter along. BDGR is going to need a lot of luck to stay alive.
And that's the gods honest truth!!!! By way of the dinosaurs this shall go......time is short as the water is rising fast. Joe will not retire in a comfortable fashion-that I am sure of. The heat is coming and soon..and you think it's hot in Louisiana during the summer? You ain't seen nothing yet!
Still working the angles-time is short in regards to BDGR. This company going the way of the dinosaurs! Someone will pay for all the illegal activities this company has bestowed on its shareholders. End of story soon. By the way this is only my opinion do your own Due Diligence on BDGR.
So what! Just a line in Joe's quicksand....This stock has crossed all the lines of no good!!
Yank- Make some honest money an get this stock. You got info on Monday morning? Bet it's Libya/Tunisia deal or reserve data. I'm trying real hard to buy more at these wholesale prices! Do some DD on this one and give up BD-remember the charmin.
The only picture here is shutting down this corrupt company! If you for one moment think this will speed up the Summit deal well have I got news for you. I have alerted all possible sources of this fraud and if the summit guys are around they will be sucked up into the storm with the rest of the crooks. They would probably be smart to turn and run away cause the sh..t will hit the fan soon. And if the Summit deal is another scam well then they will spend a ton of their money on many lawyers I'm sure. Try fighting the US Government-I'm sure its a ton of fun!
Yank- Too bad you are holding in excess of a million shares bought between .018-.035. No the stock is not going to go back up to .10 like you want it to in order to pocket thousands. I'll be sure to see to it that it doesn't. Like I said squeeze the charmin-that's the only good feeling you will get out of this company!
Because that is when I sold my shares and started this mission! Remember Rick and Mike Ellis and when and how they departed. This company has gone through more people than I care to count and for good reason! I'm sure their testimony will go far in helping my cause. You-well you'll just lose! I was up huge when the stock went 2+ but red chips news made me hold only to lose it all. All Joe's lying PRs kept me in the game-very stupid of me but I am learning and will take this house down. I think you will find the share price at that time was between 5 and 10 cents. I do not lie unlike some of you I'm sure. Can't wait till one of these mornings when the shares are frozen solid-never to be seen again!
Good Morning All, I would like to inform concerned parties that I had a great conversation this morning with some VIPs. The ball is going to start rolling very fast soon-mark my words. The 2yrs of lies,fraud,deceit, and otherwise willful stock scamming are going to be over. Some of us might even recoup some of our loses. Thanks to Larryny for writing such a great summary of BDGR and all it stands for. Many different agencies are pulling out the microscopes now. Hear me Joe- You will probably get to meet me someday in a court of law I hope-your days are few. Too bad you couldn't of been up and up on this company. All of us would of made out but greed got the better of you. Oct 19, 2000 will come back to haunt ya.
Sorry Mike you have it all wrong as usual. "Summit is buying BDGR!" No Summit is not buying BDGR-they are loaning them a pie in the sky 100mil for field and well work which at some point will have to be paid back right-right!!"It could be his son Mario, but who knows, and who cares; they are not working for Joe." Well wrong again- I think honest investors would like to know and do care who is working for who! Mario is no better than Joe and is probably getting more crooked by the day. The only way this is going up will be another pump from good ole Joe and by that time I will have this company hopefully shut down and you can use your shares for toilet paper or wallpaper-you choose!Keep dreaming and have a good nights sleep...
Soso- Great to see you back! You are one of a few that seem to get the picture right here. Either there are tons of pumpers here on this board or they are blinded by the truth. First stop is to shut down the trading and second will be to go after Joe and family. For those of you who have done like me call the SEC and voice your complaint. The more the merrier!! After that I will give you names to get in touch with. The fuse has been lit and there is no going back now-hear my words!Keep up the battle and good work soso-you have morals. Justice comes first here!! Not money.
LGL- I know all about the news you mentioned and it was ones choice to invest in a company who knew was all a scam and fraud. To make a buck on some poor guy who pays .10 cents just to get out and profit a lot is not my idea of having good morals. I will not stand for anyone pumping this company one bit. I know the facts and they are not good. Soon I hope to have this all go away. No more loses no more gains-done!! You have a good night and may justice prevail in this sorry situation. Thanks redfisher!
One more thing- The only way to squeeze good ole family man Joe will be to see that his millions of shares are worthless and can not be used anymore and that might mean yours too. Hit him where it counts as they say! In the pocketbook. With this action there will be other casualties but that will be the price to pay for bringing down the house. Someday you might even thank me for bringing justice to this matter. People gave their lives for freedom and may have to give their shares for justice-nothing is free and cheap for a good cause! If I get booted off this site know I will be working hard till the job is done.
Ok millionaire D, I agree with you but I held for over two years through hundreds of lies. I even supported the new board but and I mean a big but -Lou and company stepped aside when we had it all in our hands and for what? A big pie in the sky summit deal where we know nothing except what Joe tells us. And you say you talk to the summit guys-who are they ? Ex oilguys who would PR anything as they have no employment status nor are liable under BD! It would be like your oil serviceman saying you need your tank filled up. Summit is not liable for anything thus they can pretty much say what and to whom they want to. I gave this plenty of time and if I go down- Yes the whole house is coming down with me now!! I lost around 60-70k on this POS company and now it is time to bring the wrecking ball in. You make up your own mind as to what to do but know that I am not going to get scammed again and nor are any new shareholders thinking of buying into this. I am not going to hold out anymore-I lost my patience and will seek justice now!!!Enough is enough. Remember with Joe Lanza weeks turn into months turn into years.......I have said repeatably I feel for the long stockholders as I not too long ago was one of you. I took my tax writeoff and now have nothing to lose. Nobody did me any favors in regards to this investment-just more lies and delays. Time is up-if past shareholders couldn't get it done-I will finish this once and for all! My motives are revenge against Lanza, all he stands for, and to stop the suffering and lies. Just think if your shares become worthless you won't have to worry about them any longer and lose any more sleep over it. Remember the tax write off!! This stock is and has been a scam since the beginning-even you know that. Time to fight this to the end and yes there will be plenty of casualties-maybe even your shares. Remember we all had a great chance a few months ago and some people let me down. That is when I folded my cards and went to plan B. I took a huge loss and someone will pay for it!
To all interested parties...I just reread the PR that came out this morning. Looks like they did not proof read it carefully!!It says "This improvement has been achieved by simply utilizing the current monthly cash flows from existing operations and yet we were able to restore production at these sixteen wells on four leases. The money needed to be spent on the minor work required to put these wells back into production should be repaid within two months." What the hell is this "REPAID" BS. Minor work, 2 months!!Positive cash flow my as..! 2 months-how much did they have to borrow? So you see if you read these very carefully I have found many similar mistakes! So Lou please don't post that they are cash flow positive-to repay is a loan! If I am reading this correctly I think they took out some kinda loan-probably issued against more shares I bet "keep the press rolling". More light shed on a corrupt organization! Someone will have a field day on two years worth of lies and fraud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Oh one more thing-If it takes two months to pay back minor work how long will it take to pay back 100 million? I bet it's a couple lifetimes at the very least! Where is SOSO nowadays-hope you have not been scared away by the pumpers.
Hey Mike, Go to the SEC website and the first thing when you file a claim is to provide your NAME!!!!!! Get real- I have never shorted a single stock in my life. Oh the fax number is 202-772-9295. You want names of people I talked to? How bout US attorneys and in which states. I am not some stupid idiot! What's the significance of the number 7 on the end of yours and others posted names. Are you in a Lanza club or something?
I'm on land now and instead of hunting in the ocean I am going into the swamps of Louisiana! Did you know that 100 million is enough money to drill 300 plus new wells at 350k per well which Black Dragon does not have the well spacing on their leases for that many wells? Think about it. 100 million-Wow-Why not just buy the company first-oh because Lanza still wants that cash flow coming to him first through the overriding royalty interests so his family is well taken care of. Did you know he hires private jets to take his family on huge shopping trips to Texas. Wonder where that money comes from? Open your eyes and stop defending a known stock scam artist. Maybe it's time you changed sides and join the fight. And lets not forget about the soon to be OMDA lawsuit. What happens if some important leases are lost. You don't think OMDA has fought this hard for so long over peanuts now do you?
This is not something I am proud of but Lanza cost me a ton and now it is his turn to lose. Sorry you are along for the ride but this company is not a great long term investment. If you had sold a couple weeks ago you could have doubled your shares by now. You should realize that you might lose it all here. I am working to see that this scam of a company is shut down and ceases to trade. Hopefully this will be the end of this story. This is one shareholder who believes that actions speak louder than words. I gave the new "old board" a chance and they stepped aside and let Lanza issue more shares so now he is in even greater control. The supposed Summit deal was supposed to be done a long time ago. Remember last November. This is just another delay tactic and more lies.. This will end-I will personally see to it!!!
Great question LGL, Now with another 100+ million shares outstanding what is the stock worth now with even a "Limited cash flow". Remember it's all Joe all the time-shareholders will never make out here! Just think what 100 million would do-you could dig up all the dirt out of all the leases and suck up the oil with a straw! 100 million is a hell of a lot of money to be spent rejuvinating old stripper wells! Get real-this is still a pipe dream. Only someone like Bill Gates could or would be able to do something like this. Why is Red Chip not hyping this incredible amount of money? You all know why!!!!!!
Sorry Lou, But I did not read anything that said Cash flow positive! All I saw was that Lanza put off a couple shopping trips for his daughters and spent the 10-20k on bringing back a couple of wells. Why couldn't this of been done over all this time. I don't think this is some historic event-we have seen this mentioned many times over the last two years-bringing wells back on line has been mentioned on numerous occasions!!!So not cash flow positive until I see it in a complete audit which we know will not happen anytime soon-just more of the same. Joe Lanza's word on what is happening-probably lies as usual!!!
Well we'll see about that! BDGR owes from what I can tell 150k in back taxes to Deleware. I am speaking with many people on various fronts and they are listening very closely. I am on a mission now-you messed with the wrong guy. I get paid to finish jobs and make sure they are done right. The ball is picking up speed....I will have this company under some big magnifying glasses very soon. And I have also generated a lot of interest in Red Chip as they led many into all this..
Like father like son-another fat lanza as far as I can see. Too much living off the shareholders!!! This will all end soon...
How much joy all the Lanza's are having at the expense of many innocent investors-I'm sure they all know where the dollars come from and I'm not talking trees! Sick.. Gut wrenching sick..
Lots of phone calls today regarding BDGR and I might add very interesting! The ball is picking up speed!........
Entertainment is an expensive business but BDGR gets the cake! I am just doing a lot of DD and finding more by the minute. This is not mean't to be enjoyment but if you get a chuckle then it's probably more than looking at the newest PR or stock quote! Have a good one.
If your looking for more lies to hang Joe in the end -whats the difference between 1000 and 1005 lies? Not much-1000 is enough for me to get out the rope. I need not wait another day to see a sun that will never rise. You are too nice to give him another chance at redemption. His life has always been on the wrong side from what I can tell. The more I uncover the more I feel compelled to finish this. I am not going to be nice anymore! The problem when the stock gets so low like this is shareholders figure they have lost it all anyway but if you have a lot of shares say 500k then it is still 15k dollars back in your pocket and a great tax write off for years if need be. Hopefully you have made money in other ventures to need the write offs. But if not then yes pulling the trigger is very painful!!
I too believe under new management that this company would fly but this summit deal is too good to be true. And with all the new shares makes it even less so. This company is at .03 for a good reason and should be lower based on the fundamentals. I am glad you can relate to our suffering-it sucks. If I wanted to I could get back in now and have 1.5 million shares instead of 750k but it is not a bet I want to make especially now that the ball has started rolling. I do not trust anything I hear from BDGR/Summit guys or whoever. If I could talk directly with the FUNDING group then that would be a different story. The summit guys are nothing more than PR guys for the funders. And you know what the PR's have been like over the last two years now don't you. Hope you make out but I wouldn't bet the farm on it-If you knew me you certainly would of exited long ago. No hard feelings!
Thanks LGL, I will try to finish what was started and I will not step aside. I will follow this through till I see an end to this!! They have messed with one too many people here. Like I said I am sorry for the shareholders still holding but I tried to warn you all a couple of weeks ago. You decide what is right from wrong and make your own investment decisions but I personally think this company is not a great decision to be in. There has never been a single truthful PR in over 2+ years so why should anything change now. Once a lier always a lier!!
Well if your friend sold it was above what it is now and he can now get back in for probably double the shares. I gave it two years and saw it fall fall and fall. I gave Joe every opportunity to make this right. Now the last call is here and what I put off doing hoping all along this would pan out is not so with that said you should of done what your friend did-he was smart. Soon your shares wont even be able to be sold if I can help it. Sorry to the present shareholders but why don't you all read larryny article of how black dragon was set up and what a nice family man Joe is at the expense of us shareholders. I have no more to lose-you know what I mean!@!! Time for Joe to lose now!! And if you really believe those phone calls you have made then you are not seeing the big picture here..
So- Why is OMDA's Adam asked to call Joe immediately! For the benefit of both shareholder groups? Now let's think about this? What does this simple sentence tell you. Is this a conspiracy going on behind closed doors. I think I will include this company also to be looked into by the SEC and others. There is some connection other than the lawsuit going on behind the scene. Both of these men Joe and Adam went to the same school-You get my point!! I'll tell you again-you messed with the wrong person. This story will end. I warned you two weeks ago to get out and now I think you all better heed some advice for I have started the ball rolling........
I am really digging up some great stuff to feed inquiring minds! If your interested in BDGR go to www.bdgr.net and enjoy the read. Thanks Larry for the insight! I wish I had read this last fall. I will have so much info on good ole Joe. I have dug up California records and am furnishing it to many inquiring minds. The time for change has come!!! Time to shut the press down......Oh Joe-I never knew you were so popular on google and that's just one avenue. Might even have to have a deposition with Larryny! Wouldn't you like that Joe!
How many times must I tell you- I do not short! I don't know how it is possible in pinkies in the US! You, meaning us common shareholders can not short pink sheet stocks through our brokerages! End of story and the more people like me and the quicker this gets shut down. How can you realistically believe that some ghost 100 mil funding company that has never been mentioned is going to come to Joe's rescue? You've got to be kidding!! Behind the smoke and mirrors are new scams just waiting to be hatched. Only the crooks will make out somehow-that I am sure. No more pumps on this stock if I can help it. See ya
Thank you downapenny! I do have morals and I am not in this anymore but I do wish the remaining stockholders make out. I kind of doubt they will based on the history but who knows? With oil over 100 dollars a barrel and still not cash flow positive? This has been going on for way to long like this and Lanza has to be skimming everything off the top in some form or fashion. I am just here to let new investors know the history and facts. I know I am not helping the present shareholders but if they had taken my advice a couple weeks ago they could of bought back in by now with double the shares!!! Lou and company had a great chance of straightening this all out but for whatever reason stepped aside and that is when I ran for the exit door!! The writing is on the wall hear as they say and even at .025 you can still walk away with something rather than nothing. If it goes sub penny then you can get back in with twice the shares. I do not believe Lou made the right decision in stepping aside but he did try way more than any of us did. Lanza must have a serious hatred of Lou and would like nothing more than to see him lose it all. This will eventually come down to an army of lawyers battling it out. So much evidence of wrongdoing it makes my head spin! I am still debating whether to call all relevant authorities and end this nightmare once and for all as I have nothing more to lose!!!!!! I hope you are up a penny and not downapenny in the near future..Good luck!
Soso and Dragonman, I must step in here and back up Lou. I think Lou did his best in trying to help the shareholders. He spent a lot of time and MONEY trying to right this ship. I fully respect his efforts and honesty. Was he subjected to lies from Joe-I'm sure he was like we all were. He did more than anyone even tried to do!! Did it succeed-no! Will it succeed-who knows? But I have talked to him many times and he has always been truthful as far as I can tell. I do trust him!! He stepped aside to hopefully let the Summit deal happen. Was this the right thing to do-I think not. I jumped shipped based on my total disbelief of the Summit deal-way too good to be true-it never made any sense. I believe I made the right decision to get out between .05-.10. Know I now I did the right thing as nothing has happened and nothing probably will! Soon I think the fireworks will start. It will be messy and protracted as this latest lie will start the fire. I feel for all the shareholders that have lost so much on this scam of a company run by crooks. I hope justice will prevail someday for everyone! Don't blame Lou for any of this-he did more than anyone here and I think the biggest mistake was not going through with the original plan. Lou still needs help and not criticism as I'm sure the fight is not yet over. Best of luck to all. Lou I am sorry for my negative posts but am still quite bitter over losing so much. It was my choice to exit and I will live by that choice however I don't want anymore people getting scammed by Joe and company and will warn others about the perils of investing in this POS company!!
Hate to tell you but Soso and I and a couple others are people who see the facts and let the truth be known about this scam of a company. I will not rest until Joe is in jail, bankrupt, or to see his millions of shares worthless just like mine were!!!!Get some rest so you can pump a little more tomorrow and earn your living!!
And no I am not Larry! Sorry to disappoint you. How's your stock doing lately? Is Joe putting the pressure on? I see he's been reading these posts calling us ex stockholders shorters! Ya right..
Go read Larry's post over on Yahoo and be enlightened!!
Draqonman, There has never been one single truth out of BDGR's PR's!!! And thats a fact. Lies, lies and more lies. That's all this company is about. Just a bunch of pumpers and dumpers looking to make a quick buck. I will have no part of this scam!!!
Warning to all new investors- I have personally experienced all the lies for years now and you will too if you are gullible enough to believe Mr Joe "lying" Lanza. Do you hear me Joe? Show us all the promised audits over all these years-are you afraid of what it might reveal!! I bet you are!!