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Actually, I am surprised that a connection that was eluded to is really true! A first imo.
Absolutely sir. It is incredible to me that he has yet to figure out how to SELL the product. He seems to be able to figure out how to get people to say...ok, we'll put it on the shelf...but when it finally gets delivered, it goes nowhere. The debate about the pathetic or complete lack of advertising has been going on for the years I've been following this company. It was a major point of debate for the CEO and I in early years when I communicated with him. From my understanding via others that were with him out in California during the infomercial that they attempted, there were major issues because the CEO would not allow the professionals doing the infomercial make it the way they believed would best reach the masses thus...it was not all it could have been and history shows it did little to nothing for the company. That was not the first time I was told about the CEO not being willing to listen to those who know about advertising. Sort of a "my way or the highway" mentality.
I said it then and I say it now...it does you absolutely no good to put a product in a store if NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT IT!! For the life of me, I don't get how he can't understand that. Even for this little country girl...it seems so very simple.
Awesome! Thanks for looking in to that Doog and sharing it. :)
So funny that some are arguing about whether fins were filed on time or not. Ultimately they were late and that's not the first time it's happened so who really cares. How about we look at what the filing shows! Let's look at the NUMBERS not pretty pictures of product that rarely ever sells (numbers again...) and the fact this company continues to be run like a little league baseball team operated by a 3 year old. IMO
You make an excellent point. They (can we say "they" anymore) simply sell product and not much of that given the numbers.
I can see the traders are loving the numbers given shares traded today! Still waiting for that "big run" that's coming.
I don't know but "it's a nail biter"! LOL Here are a few excerpts posted by another shareholder who received them from the CEO that indicates there are several ways to "loan" the company money....you can even use your VISA! Very convenient!
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=104537567
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=103484255
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=104692394
i.e. orders already scheduled for delivery during Q3, exceed the sales figure for all of Q2 2014.
Yep. That's part of his brilliant business plan. Didn't ya know? LOL
Ultimately... absolutely nothing that this company or the CEO has done in the past makes any difference now. His history is well documented for better or for worse. He has driven this company in to the ground by HIS decisions. As a CEO it is fully on his shoulders and no matter what any other company did or didn't do to promote his products is of no consequence. The blame has been deflected to every single entity except where is lies...with this company.
Financials are due soon and that is the only thing anyone should be concerned with if looking to invest in this company. The chart is the only thing anyone should be concerned with if looking to trade this. Keeping in mind all of the dilution left to go and understanding there will most likely be other disastrous financial deals with other scumbag "companies" like the Southridge finance people they are dealing with now.
Place your bets and take your chances but for heaven's sake cya with stops so you don't suffer what so many have already.
Peace!
A video made by the company. WNBD staff sing-a-long! Of course this is from several years ago when they had staff! Everybody join in!
Yeah...let me know how that's possible Dennis because I've not seen that before.
Ah...found it. 22,142.... "average" made at 14:55:35. What does "average" mean?
So someone bought some .0001 shares while the bid was .0002 and so it didn't show up anywhere? Interesting. How big was the trade?
I see nothing that tells me there were any trades at .0001 yesterday. Must be missing something.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=105131828
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=105128730
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=105124986
Thank you for the update. Please do keep us informed by providing evidence that investors can access to verify claims being made. TIA
Once again, everyone else's fault things didn't happen...always everyone else's fault or the wind was blowing the wrong direction or the soy milk that morning was bad so things didn't work out. Lol. I also noticed no reference to Miele. No rambling blogs for awhile...he was all backed up.
Dry cleaner con't....
I have no idea if the formula has changed at all since 2007. Have never followed that product closely.
BTW none intended. Was always told you were a "she".
It was back in 2007 young lady. I don't remember the specific name of the specific dry cleaner but remember the name of the town. No..didn't call any more...didn't need to. One "it didn't work well enough for our customers" was enough for me.LOL I did call a few scattered ones but don't remember enough to pin point city or name of cleaners. Nothing was said that stands out either way.
Not enough info. I remain hopeful some gaps will be filled before more allegations are made.
Yes he is! It's ignorant to make such public allegations without proof and just makes one look like a 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum. These are serious things being purported and I for one am hoping there will be proof provided...either way.
I said it before, the CEO needs to address these damning accusations if they are false, on a public board where HIS WORDS can be read in their entirety. He has a right to defend himself and should do so. IMO
Aug 15, 2006 -- Winning Brands Corporation (Other OTC:WNBD.PK - News) announces that its Solvent Free Solutions partnership with Miele USA has been awarded a new contract to outfit Naples, Florida Diamond Cleaners
All of the email excerpts shared have been instrumental in seeing the inner workings of WNBD and those few that are left at the company. Most certainly left to one's interpretation of what the CEO meant by these statements, it should be shared with anyone who is doing DD on this stock.
Between Hope's sharing of some emails he received from the CEO over the last few years and the sharing of details from WNBD2002 who clearly has intimate knowledge of this CEO...the puzzle has begun to come together.
Waiting on the lastest fins to see what's been going on or not going on with the company since last reporting!
A few links to make reading of this information easier for anyone who wants to read these posts...
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=104705608
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profile.aspx?user=489216
Did Edison do all of his experiments using other people's hard earned money? Did he broadcast about how trustworthy he was? How transparent he was all the while not telling the full truth about things? Did he solicit others for money to pay for back debt when he knew he wasn't going to fulfill his promises? Ya know the whole rob peter to pay paul scenario?
I have no issue with someone trying to make a company work...even after 8 years but I do have a problem with someone who does it using other people's money, taking that money while making promises that were NEVER made good on and in fact... stabbing them with an r/s he said would never happen unless it was for the good of everyone which history shows he NEVER did any of the things he said he would ...never even filed the paperwork to do it and in fact screwed them all over ROYALLY.
Don't ever compare this ceo with anyone who does things on their own and in a ethical manner because there is absolutely no comparison. To say I am deeply disappointed in your trying to defend this man is putting it very lightly...especially given you have been around all of this time and KNOW FOR A FACT what he has done.
Looks like Southridge is dumping a little today. Billions more to go!
Yes...and NO WHERE does it mention WNBD or their "brilliant" cleaning products anywhere on their website. They sell their own "green" cleaning products. In fact the website says...
"The original WetCare system developed by Miele fulfils all the requirements necessary to produce excellent cleaning results – offering perfect protection for the fabric and a pleasant freshness for the cleaned garments." "With their legendary “Made in Germany” quality, the advantages are obvious.."
I lost count years ago how many pr'd NEW business was really just a trial and the big predictions of how many millions it was going to mean to the company yearly. Then we'd never hear another word..no idea why. Trial went bad? Company didn't have money to fill orders? Personality conflicts due to being a control freak??? Store couldn't find shelf space? Never heard a word.
At least they closed a deal after a trial...or so it reads.
HOLY CRAP....HE DID WHAT HE SAID HE WOULD DO!!! THAT'S INCREDIBLE! Should we hold a parade in the CEO's honor because he did what he said he would do? I mean don't most people get awards for simply doing their job? LOL!!!
LMAO!!! Yeah...after 8 years they have decided its great and are going to start promoting it!!! Grasping at straws there aren't you young lady? smh
We used to have it in the Wiki for awhile but not sure it's still there.
Many moons ago, when first buying this and doing DD, I called a drycleaner in Florida that was supposed to be using this stuff to get their input. The owner was quick to tell me he tried it, didn't work so was back to using his tried and true method...that worked. Then there was the cruise ship that was supposed to be using it. Another great concept that never went anywhere. One must look at the common denominator when the same thing happens over and over with different products and customers.
Looks like their recent funder still has plenty to dump!
They have been "associated" with WNBD since 2006 yet it has gone nowhere. If such a "global company" thought the product was so awesome..I would think they would have helped promote it on a global level. Name dropping by this company clearly doesn't do anyone any good. lol
I would think that consumers would want and should insist on knowing what is in the product that is cleaning their clothing and would allow for confirmation it is truly "green". Not necessary to reveal all of the ingredients but the main one(s) should be made available like it is available on all other products.
Yes...an attempt to resurrect a product that clearly didn't appeal to other dry cleaning companies given they have tried to "sell it" for so many years now and failed to get anyone excited about it. Just like the "reguard" for firefighters that went no where. Great concept but most likely very crappy experience for potential retailers dealing with this company as the past seems to dictate given few pick up the "main" product and don't keep it long. Would love to know how many "trials" they have done over the last 8-9 years that never went anywhere. How many ambassadors did shareholders pay for to travel the globe pimping product that never amounted to anything? Just laughable at this point.
Does WNBD have the money to manufacture and ship product or are they still begging past and/or current shareholders for money?
A 8/23/2013 Email:
Quote:One of the largest Canadian hardware store chains (1,000 stores) needs their product next week, which we can only get released in coming days if you succeed in your arrangement with the $25,000. It’s a nail biter!
Given there are other "wet cleaning" solutions out there that claim to be "eco-friendly", "green" etc but contain a petroleum base...can WNBD provide the ingredients or main ingredients in their solution? A pdf link or some place where someone can easily verify that it is in fact a "green" product?
I monitor business news for companies..not personal news and have no interest in a lawsuit against the CEO.
Did it happen yet? The big run that's coming? I'm trying to keep an eye out but not seeing anything building yet. There is some chatter going around though not what investors want to hear. imo
Has Southridge (recent funder for wnbd) dumped everything yet? I did a little research on them and came up with this. Stand up people! lol
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2010/lr21709.htm
Dennis, if I had the time and interest, I am certain I could go back as doog as done and pull MANY, MANY statements that were made by the company that were misleading. The whole story was never revealed...just highlights that would paint the situation to be far better than it really was. Of course everyone and their brother was to blame for the failure to launch situations time and time again. Often times things were said and as we waited for the "imminent" results...it never happened.
The who R/S mantra of how he would never do that or then there was the version he wouldn't do it unless a + b happened and it was ALWAYS said it would never happen unless it was done with "uplisting" and it would ALWAYS be a good thing for the current shareholders.
I am curious if those that got in at the .02 pps that the CEO congratulated everyone for and told them how smart they were feel smart and so very lucky to have had the "vision" the CEO often talked about.
You mean this one from the CEO to a shareholder? I agree with you..it just floored me. I don't know legalities for such things but it just doesn't seem like it's a proper way to conduct oneself in business.
A 8/23/2013 Email:
Quote:One of the largest Canadian hardware store chains (1,000 stores) needs their product next week, which we can only get released in coming days if you succeed in your arrangement with the $25,000. It’s a nail biter!
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=104692394
I fully understand what the poster was trying to do Tib but altering it makes it void of authenticity. Again, if the CEO wants to make a public statement..it should be in his words not edited. If it doesn't fit TOU then it is not appropriate to be released in this forum. In reality..for a CEO to release any statement on a stock message board does not put the CEO in a good light regardless of what he has to say. It looks very unprofessional. Always has.