The "Saint Valentines Massacre" came and went - and PPS went up not down. Good for stock holders, not so great for others.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/msgsearchbyboard.aspx?boardID=23761&srchyr=2019&SearchStr=conversion

What a difference 2 months makes.

Good time to be alive. Reefer Madness ending. Alcohol and tobacco proven to be far more dangerous to society and individuals than cannabis.

And TRTC extremely well positioned for the coming changes in federal law.

Only TWO sticks and bricks stores for Cigawatt, not seven.

SEC filings, Cigawatt's web page, FB, and twitter ALL indicate only two.

A 2,000 to one RS is MASSIVE, and PPS would immediately plummet afterwards. "CWAT" cannot possibly qualify for the NASDAQ, as even 5 minutes research into NASDQ requirements will demonstrate.

.0002 * 2,000 = .40 a share NOT $4.00

Try a RS of 20,000 to one!

Dollar a share?????

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!


From .0002 to a DOLLAR A SHARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As of 3/1/19 OS: 2,542,739,807, up 791.6M (45.2%) in month

LIBE's Transfer Agent, Olde Monmouth, just updated LIBE's OS (Outstanding Share) count at OTCMarkets, and as of March 1, 2019, it is now 2,542,739,807 shares. That's an astounding 791.6M (45.2%) increase since the Feb 1, 2019 report of 1,751.1M. Since Jan 1, 2018, when the TA reported that LIBE only had 18.7M outstanding shares, the OS has risen a whopping 13,489%.

The claims of no conversions and no dilution were proven wrong. up 791.6M (45.2%) in month

The "time of facts" does not address:

How will the $666,790 in current debt be paid off with 3.5 Billion shares until AS is maxed out - and not enough volume to clear even that?

All with PPS between .0002 and .0003 (less for actual debt settlement). Mathematically impossible.


So as was stated, LIBE/Ciga will NOT be debt free.

Yet all the predictions pps would further plummet late Feb because of conversions never occurred.

Pps has gained, not eroded.

How will the $666,790 in current debt be paid off with 3.5 Billion shares until AS is maxed out - and not enough volume to clear even that?

All with PPS between .0002 and .0003 (less for actual debt settlement). Mathematically impossible.

Last quarter LIBE debt (liabilities) was $666,790

Plus court orders and Conway's deferred salary.

The dilution rate and that PPS is being held down to .0002 does prove "some" conversion is underway.

However "most" of the $666,790 in debts will remain after 15 May. Simple math proves this true.

Divide the debt ($666,790) by .0002 (actually quite a bit less than .0002 under terms of conversion). LIBE could max out the OS to the 6 billion in the AS and not even come close to settling $666,790.

Analysis:

1. Dilution is underway fully indicating "some" conversions (debts) will be paid off.

2. 400k Gross Revenue (est) beats LIBE's previous and current zero revenue.

3. Keep in mind the 400K is gross, before salaries, rent/lease, utilities, taxes, cost of wholesale goods, and soon a CEO salary on top of it all.

4. Net after all that? First full quarter after hard close will provide the answer. No where near 400K is the reality after COGS.

5. Massive improvement over Conway/LIBE if it hard closes. Still in sub penny after reality of 1st quarterly financials hit after hard close. Still carrying large liabilities, and NET revenue yet to be determined.

Will common shareholders get to see Cigawatt's audit results?

SEC filings, company PRs, and company web pages shoe only two brick and mortar stores.


Where and what are the others?

To be-bunk all the false claims!

That DD is not based on real world facts provided directly from LIBE nor by Cigawatt.

As per LIBE/Cigawatt sources
PR 8K:

Link to 8k https://t.co/QaIExRieLc $LIBE @CigaWattLounge

— Liberated Energy (@LIBEnergy) March 5, 2019

SYMBOL CHANGE VOTE FROM CIGAWATT:

We’d like to have our re-entry onto Twitter one that will encourage shareholders to engage with us. So as we near a hard close bringing CigaWatt public; we are looking at a few future trading symbols. Please vote, follow, & retweet to help us grow our brand $LIBE @LIBEnergy

— Cigawatt (@Cigawattlounge) March 5, 2019

PLEASE VOTE!

we are looking at a few future trading symbols:

CGWT

CWAT

VAPL

EVAP

LIBE and Cigawatt are becoming one. The other company touted is not part of any recognized deal.

All investors should contact LIBE and Cigawatt directly and outright ask them about this. Real? Call and ask!!!

This is not helping confidence in the current deal actually closing, and leads some investors to ask if this is just one more scam - like every other time over the past 4.5 years.

Every time over the past 4.5 years far fetched big deals have been touted based only on rumors they all failed. Every last one of them.

Now I even begin to doubt the LIBE/Cigawatt deal, with this necessity for the far fetched hype that is underway. If necessary to invent more deals from the ether - does that mean LIBE/Cigawatt is on the verge of failure?

- Leaving high school and up-listing to the NASDAQ?
- 2,000 to one RS?
- Some other totally seperate company in AZ suddenly part of this current deal?
- LIBE is now debt free.. and no dilution?
- No conversions still underway?
- This is pure retail....?

EVERYONE CALL LIBE AND CIGAWATT AND ASK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Read the SEC filings! Read the company PRs! Even read the company posts on FB and Twitter!

Well said.

Many interested in LIBE have been asking for facts and information flow from Brian Conway for a full year plus.

This is business as usual for LIBE and current LIBE CEO Brian Conway.

Always best to wait for 8Ks and/or PRs for "accurate" information, and then hope the 8K/PR information actually proves to be true and comes to fruition. SEC filings/PRs always trump rumors.

Stability for over 3 months at near all time lows, continuing after a soft close and 8Ks is good?

All the predictions of a run on news and selling on news have evaporated. It does beat no bid or .0001 - so that's a positive.

we are looking at a few future trading symbols:
Votes are the percentages:

40% CGWT

43% CWAT

4% VAPL

13% EVAP

PPS .0002, massive dilution holding back PPS gains. Dilution and conversions still underway. All liabilities are not settled.

Four names offered as stock symbol possibilities by Cigawatt.

8Ks, PRs, and social media posts by both LIBE and Cigawatt offer information that is at least somewhat reliable (even with the spin).

Facts and info flow from the two companies in play trump rumors every time.

AKA dilution. Those shares bought come from somewhere.

This thing still stuck at .0002? Must be all the unfounded claims and rumors making people nervous. Looks like one more LIBE pump with all that going on.

Not to mention the massive dilution

Facts, filings, and company information releases.

Or unfounded claims and rumors....

Company is trying out 4 symbol names on twitter for after deal hard closes:
CGWT

CWAT

VAPL

EVAP


Company did not list OBAU as a potential symbol.

CEO Brian Conway is a serial liar. His SEC filings and PRs contain outright lies.
"About Liberated Solutions Inc.

Liberated Energy Inc. is a diversified energy services holding company delivering conventional as well as non-conventional energy solutions throughout North America.

For its customers, Liberated is an energy products and services company reducing the everyday cost of energy to its clients.

For its shareholders, Liberated operates and acquires a diverse array of energy products and service companies with proven revenues and operations.

Its mission is to be the best small cap energy services company of its kind in North America."

Anyone see the problem here?

If he lies about this, wat else is he lying about?

Source? Link?

The deal with Cigawatt itself is positive for LIBE investors. Facts, links, and proof help keep investor confidence high.

Today we learned that LIBE is NOT now debt free and that there IS in fact dilution ongoing. Massive dilution. We learned that convertible notes are NOT "yet" cleared and are in fact still occurring.

SEC filings, Company PRs, and OTCMarkets dilution reports always trump rumors and social media claims.

Thanks for the DD and for presenting the real world facts. Appreciated.

Investors have choices to make when spending hard earned money buying stocks:

Rely on rumors. Or rely on SEC filings, financials, and even company PRs.

Freedom of choice is a great thing. All can arrive at their own decisions and act upon them as they please. I love this countries freedom to make choices.

Good deal.

My account just updated minutes ago. After close it showed .0398, now updated to .04. Very good day.

Fact is LIBE and Cigawatt are making a deal here. Anything else is unconfirmed rumors and not based on current known facts.

LIBE is NOT a "a diversified energy services holding company delivering conventional as well as non-conventional energy solutions throughout North America" no matter what CEO Conway claims. LIBE is also not a Offbeat and Unique company. Neither is Cigawatt.

LIBE/Cigawatt has potential for gains. That is GREAT for longs who need to recover account value.

The Conway released PR went into fiction. That is very sad. Facts should rule the day on the good news underway for stockholders.

Nice close. .0398, 24.38% gain today.

I don't understand why Conway ALWAYS resorts to hype and falsehoods instead of simply PRing actual real world facts.

This latest PR is only more example of how Conway intentionally misleads, lies, and hypes.

https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/LIBE/news/story?e&id=1300520

"CigaWatt is an Electronic Cigarette Shop and Vapor Lounge with multiple locations around the Kansas City area."
TWO locations. Multiple is implying more. Why not stay truthful?

"Sales of e-Cigs increased from just $20 million in 2008 to over $2 billion dollars in 2014, and the figure is projected to hit $45 billion by 2024."
Immaterial to what Ciga themselves are accomplishing. Why fluff the entire segment?

"With the legalization of cannabis Vape Lounges are the ideal point of sale"
Considering no state I am aware of thus far allows vaping cannabis on premises and that Ciga does not yet have license for any form of Marijuana sales - why bring it up right now? If they accomplish it later GREAT! But now it's just fluff and spin.

"Liberated Energy Inc. is a diversified energy services holding company delivering conventional as well as non-conventional energy solutions throughout North America."
LOL!!! Not even close. What "energy solutions" does LIBE have. In fact, it was and still is as of today a empty shell with ZERO products and ZERO revenue. Why claim this is a "energy services holding company" when it is demonstrably NOT.

"For its customers, Liberated is an energy products and services company reducing the everyday cost of energy to its clients."
Outright lie.

"For its shareholders, Liberated operates and acquires a diverse array of energy products and service companies with proven revenues and operations."
Outright lie.

" Its mission is to be the best small cap energy services company of its kind in North America."
Total and complete "mission" failure.

Why the outright lies in the press release? All that does is harm the progress. It reduces believability and detracts from the actual real world progress.

The actual real world facts would have been more than enough for a positive facts filled PR. The news was good on facts alone. Why add the lies and spin?

I wonder what Janelle thinks of this misleading lie filled PR?? Did she sign off on this load of manure?

I sure wish Brian Conway was capable of ethical behavior. I hope Janelle does not let him "consult" in the future.

Many runs in OTC stocks are based on hype and gullibility versus financials. Just look at the wording in the PR - designed to hype and WAY beyond actual facts.

Without this dilution I would expect a run - until financials prove it was misplaced, and then it retraces to reality.

.0002s available for anyone with a little patience….

It's a darned good thing that dilution is what is holding PPS down. Imagine if it was NOT dilution - and what that would indicate for LIBE/Ciga after a soft close and a major PR.

The denials of dilution and claims that dilution had already ended over the past 7-8 days have been incredible. And yet STILL some think dilution has already ended!

If dilution HAD ended by open today, then LIBE would be in DEEP DEEP trouble as proven by looking at the trades.....

Shareholders, be HAPPY dilution is what is holding PPS down. Because if not, the alternative as to why PPS cannot increase is VERY ugly indeed.

Stock holders better HOPE dilution is still continuing today.

Because if NOT, and with soft close and a PR LIBE can't climb permanently out of .0002s, this is in huge trouble.

But no worries - just look at todays trades. Dilution IS still underway, and compared to the alternative......

WOW!!!!

No wonder LIBE can't get of the .0002s. Massive flood of diluted shares hitting the market.

And looking at todays trades that are all AFTER soft close and a PR, it is CLEAR the dilution flood still continues....

I would have so much more respect for Conway, LIBE, and the Press Releases if they would be more factual and less spin.

The good real world facts would get far more support from those who do research, than the fluff, additional spin, and outright lies do. Examples provided for each category.

https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/LIBE/news/story?e&id=1300520

"CigaWatt is an Electronic Cigarette Shop and Vapor Lounge with multiple locations around the Kansas City area."
TWO locations. Multiple is implying more. Why not stay truthful?

"Sales of e-Cigs increased from just $20 million in 2008 to over $2 billion dollars in 2014, and the figure is projected to hit $45 billion by 2024."
Immaterial to what Ciga themselves are accomplishing. Why fluff the entire segment?

"With the legalization of cannabis Vape Lounges are the ideal point of sale"
Considering no state I am aware of thus far allows vaping cannabis on premises and that Ciga does not yet have license for any form of Marijuana sales - why bring it up right now? If they accomplish it later GREAT! But now it's just fluff and spin.

"Liberated Energy Inc. is a diversified energy services holding company delivering conventional as well as non-conventional energy solutions throughout North America."
Not even close. What "energy solutions" does LIBE have. In fact, it was and still is as of today a empty shell with ZERO products and ZERO revenue. Why claim this is a "energy services holding company" when it is demonstrably NOT.

"For its customers, Liberated is an energy products and services company reducing the everyday cost of energy to its clients."
Outright lie.

"For its shareholders, Liberated operates and acquires a diverse array of energy products and service companies with proven revenues and operations."
Outright lie.

" Its mission is to be the best small cap energy services company of its kind in North America."
Total and complete "mission" failure.

Why the outright lies in the press release? All that does is harm the progress. It reduces believability and detracts from the actual real world progress.

The actual real world facts would have been more than enough for a positive facts filled PR. The news was good on facts alone. Why add the lies and spin?

I sure wish Brian Conway was capable of ethical behavior.

Planting of new crops is expected to commence later this week and all cannabis cultivated at the facility will be sold under the Company's premium IVXX™ brand to California's medical and adult-use markets..."

I have more confidence than at any time in the past 4.5 years of LIBEs "deals", that this one will actually hard close.

The thing holding back confidence on any PPS gains before hard close is the dilution rate - which is somewhat unknown currently.

I expect to see a dilution rate of around 10-15% when LIBE's Transfer Agent, Olde Monmouth, updates LIBE's OS count at OTCMarkets. That update "should" occur next week (I think).

I think PPS would have increased last week if not for dilution. New buyers and accumulators averaging down are being fed a steady stream of dilutive shares (I think). I can't envision many longs or flippers selling at .0002 to .0003 given the events underway with Cigawatt.

I hate to predict any specific PPS. Too many wild cards. I think buying at .0002 currently is a safer purchase of shares than at any other time of buying shares in LIBE's last 4.5 years. The dilution hitting the market right now "may be" a good buy.

If the deal hard closes that would pay off. If the deal somehow fails (doubtful at this point), it will be the end for LIBE and total or near total loss would probably occur for shareholders. That is the risk to keep in mind.

My current take: Medium to low risk at .0002 and .0003, with good potential for gains - whether soon or eventually after the hard close. To each their own risk versus profit comfort zone..... I would not be willing "personally" to chase PPS upwards if it begins to run.

Hard close could well occur quicker than the 15 May deadline. The audit should go quickly given the footprint and assets of Cigawatt. The wait may not be 2.5 months for hard close.

At least a third is my best guess. May have to wait until after hard close. Could run before then, depends on dilution rate.

GLTU and all other longs that you can all recover all of your original account values. It's been horrible to see the damage that occurred in past years.

This is the best shot share holders have ever had with LIBE. Such improved odds now.

I just did 5 minutes research on GRVE that CEO Brian Conway consulted on.

GRVE has no CBD products available for purchase. The stock has no trade volume, the Ihub message board has no new or current interest.

It appears that the consulting work Conway provided to GRVE accomplished no positives. GRVE has no products currently on the market. Appears to now be a dead shell.