Is PV winning out over CSP?



The Race for Solar

Siemens Exits Israel’s Solel Solar Initiative


Shifra Mincer
October 30th 2012

“The global market for concentrated solar power has shrunk from 4 gigawatts to slightly more than 1 gigawatt today. In this environment, specialized companies will be able to maximize their strengths,” Suess added.


http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?page=21

Rice has been busy


Beta Sponsors

http://www.goodnanoguide.org/tiki-index.php?page=HomePage



entered tetrapod quantum dots

http://icon.rice.edu/centersandinst/icon/SearchAll.cfm



a little news

http://icon.rice.edu/centersandinst/icon/newssummaries.cfm

these pics are a little different

https://www.google.com/search?q=tetrapod+quantum+dot+efficiencies&start=10&hl=en&sa=N&rlz=1T4ACGW_enUS343US344&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&ei=V3yQUIPzNozO9ASF7YHQAg&ved=0CFIQsAQ4Cg&biw=1093&bih=462

New Photoluminescent Nanoparticles Glow Through Thick Layer of Tissues
29 September 2012

Optical bioimaging is emerging very fast and it is one of the promising tools being explored in the biomedical applications, however current technologies limit the ability to look deeper inside. Due to non-availability of high resolution and high contract imaging tools, a group of international researchers and scientists worked together for developing a robust and high resolution optical device that can help them in identifying tumors.

The group of researchers has created a unique photoluminescent nanoparticles that are able to pass light through a depth of more than 3 centimeters and actually these nanoparticles are inside a shell of calcium fluoride and the nanocrystalline core contains thulium, sodium, fluorine and ytterbium. The use of calcium fluoride shell minimizes the possible side effects as it is commonly found in our bones.

These nanoparticles as mentioned above have different behavior towards light, as these nanoparticles absorb infrared light and emit infrared light of lower wavelength than the absorbed light and this is completely deferent than the normal pattern of absorbing and emitting lights of biological tissues and therefore these nanoparticles can suitably be used for obtaining deeper and higher contrast images.

The research paper has been published on 28th August in the online issue of ACS Nano Journal. The research teams of various institutes and research centre from US, China, South Korea and Sweden have worked together. Distinguished Scientists Paras N Prasad, Professor and Executive Director, UB’s Institute of Lasers, Photonics and Biophotonics & Gang Han, Assistant Professor, University of Massachusetts Medical College has jointly led this research study.

http://www.nanotechnologydevelopment.com/medical/new-photoluminescent-nanoparticles-glow-through-thick-layer-of-tissues.html



......other info in regards to Paras
https://www.google.com/search?tbo=p&tbm=pts&hl=en&q=inventor+%22paras+n+prasad%22
http://www.chemistry.buffalo.edu/people/faculty/prasad/
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:9uZ05rvPO-EJ:www.uphs.upenn.edu/ifem/ins/documents/(7-7-11)%2520Chatterjee.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESi74e88BcPTEX3dcNVFkoacrzYe4XFYTysQSG9tnm-8VaR6tOcFRzulN3YPVVhrh8XLtqqf_fp192tkD7B6SRxFC2XNYcDI1oBbLWnraqoP55NTaNdhYfMUrze_IncehR_hRvQq&sig=AHIEtbQsIq3VZDtU8w8MTxqQT8uxhbfHnA



http://www.nanotechnologydevelopment.com/research/new-nanoparticle-tool-to-control-thousands-of-cells.html
........just a cool site, pick your subject and related posts are below

Vor-ink(TM) Flexo utilized for roll-to-roll printing of flexible conductive traces.


Abstract:
Vorbeck Materials, an established leader in graphene production and engineering, announces a new online store, the completion of its latest capacity expansion, and new specialized Vor-ink™ products. With the launch of the online store, sample quantities of conductive inks and coatings can be purchased quickly and easily. "With all the excitement surrounding graphene research, developers across the world demand graphene samples, in order to evaluate the real advantages of this new material. We are not theorizing about space elevators, or bullet-proof cellphones. What we sell is a very unique conductive ink that has enabled high volume printed electronics applications, in stores today. " Alex Carter, Senior Associate, Business Development.

http://www.nanotech-now.com/news.cgi?story_id=46229



NIST has announced a $2.7 million, five-year cooperative research agreement with scientists at Rice University and its Richard E. Smalley Institute for Nanoscale Science and Technology to study how nanoparticles – particularly fullerenes (aka buckyballs), nanotubes and graphene – operate and interact with other materials at the molecular, even atomic, scale

http://icon.rice.edu/details.cfm?NID=2770

.....wonder where QMC is at in regards to graphene

good post.....like sand is to cement, only better with a much broader scope

Utility Stock Outlook - October 2012 - Industry Outlook



As would be expected, the growth of the utility industry is tied to overall economic conditions. As per the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA), energy consumption in the United States will increase 0.3% annually from 2010 through 2035. EIA’s assumption takes into consideration modest growth in economic conditions after the recessionary period of 2008-2009 and increase in the energy efficiency level.

The majority of new power in this period will be generated from natural gas and renewable sources. Besides the abundance of natural gas, as many as 30 U.S. states and the District of Columbia have enforceable renewable portfolio standards or other renewable generation policies. We expect this count to go up, compelling producers to generate more green power to meet the renewable standards fixed by the states.

http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=54661680

........I think things like this help confirm the growing awareness and trend toward renewables, however in regards to QMC, I expect some to continue to put pressure on sp. The Daily Short Chart seems to confirm this, imo.
In the meantime, the solar shakeout seems to be continuing......I for one will be glad when QMC has news of emergence in that direction.

pics here, you might find something along the line of what you're looking.
https://www.google.com/search?q=nanocrystal+solar+cells&hl=en&rlz=1T4ACGW_enUS343US344&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=00-IUN_sHIu89QSHs4HIDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CGoQsAQ&biw=1093&bih=462


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_solar_cell .....basic breakdown


I don't know exactly where they're at. Think they've been experimenting. Evidently according to the 10K they must have reached their goal of 10% efficiency as they're working toward 15% within the next year.

Thanks, things are looking up... I might be starting to get optimistic.

anyone have current news of thin film lifetime? It seems the timeline being looked for is 10 - 15 years, (for thin film).

Thanks.


I was browsing a little


KAUST has provided funding for the Stanford Center for Advanced Molecular Photovoltiacs (CAMP) where fundamental research is in progress to dramatically decrease
the cost of solar PV. CAMP's technological mission is to revolutionize the global energy landscape by developing the science & technology for stable,
efficient molecular photovoltaic (solar) cells.

Molecular photovoltaic cells can be fabricated at low cost using roll-to-roll coating processes similar to those used to make newspapers. They can be much cheaper than conventional cells because, in addition to low materials costs, the cells can be printed and connected to each other in a high-throughput, integrated architecture. Today's best organic solar cells have an efficiency of 6.5 % & last approximately 1 year under sunlight. The Center has plans for taking the efficiency to at least 15% & making the cells stable for 10 years or more.

One of CAMP's primary focus topics will be designing & synthesizing molecules with optimally tailored energy levels & controlled packing to maximize wave function overlap, both of which are important for charge carrier & exciton transport. Achieving the highest possible efficiencies with molecular solar cells will also require fabricating the right nanostructures. If the semiconductor domains are too large, the number of excitons reaching the interface is limited; if the donor and/or acceptor domains are isolated, charge carriers can be trapped. Thus, a variety of approaches will be utilized to produce ideal nanostructures. Recent advances in plasmonics will be exploited to increase absorption at donor-acceptor interfaces & enable the use of thinner films, thereby enhancing both the current & fill factor. Methods to print transparent electrodes based on meshes of carbon nanotubes, graphene sheets, as well as silver & ZnO nanowires, will be developed, decreasing the cost of the substrate & collecting electrode. Multijunction approaches will be exploited to obtain ultrahigh efficiency."

http://www.nanotech-now.com/columns/?article=553 ......Stanford CAMP

(6) Transparent electrodes. To truly revolutionize the way electricity is produced with molecular photovoltaics, it will be necessary to manufacture the cells at a cost of about $30/m2. To achieve such low cost with high throughput roll-to-roll coating machines, a new transparent conductor is clearly required. Sputtered thin films of metal oxides such as indium-tin-oxide (ITO) and Al-doped zinc-oxide (AZO) are currently too expensive because slow deposition on heated substrates is needed to obtain sufficient film quality. Moreover, ITO is unattractive because at the manufacturing volumes needed to supply a sizeable portion of the world’s energy with solar cells, the supply of indium will be a limitation. In addition, the brittleness of metal oxides is unattractive for use on plastic substrates. It is therefore highly desirable to develop a low-cost method for depositing transparent conductors based on abundant materials. Our team will tackle this problem using several approaches including carbon nanotubes, graphene, silver and zinc oxide nanowires, and combinations thereof. This team will be led by Profs. Mike McGehee, Peter Peumans, Yi Cui, Alberto Salleo and Zhenan Bao

http://camp.stanford.edu/ .......wording/goals/collaboration



New @ KAUST

Researchers discover a magic number silver cluster with useful properties for solar cells


Scientists at the KAUST Center for Solar and Photovoltaics Engineering have discovered a magic number cluster of 44 silver atoms with characteristics that are potentially ideal for light-harvesting in solar cells.

http://sperc.kaust.edu.sa/Pages/News-Researchers-discover-a-magic-number-silver-cluster.aspx







Rice scientists build battery in a nanowire: Hybrid energy storage device is as small as it can possibly get
Houston, TX | Posted on July 29th, 2011
In their paper, researchers described testing two versions of their battery/supercapacitor hybrid. The first is a sandwich with nickel/tin anode, polyethylene oxide (PEO) electrolyte and polyaniline cathode layers; it was built as proof that lithium ions would move efficiently through the anode to the electrolyte and then to the supercapacitor-like cathode, which stores the ions in bulk and gives the device the ability to charge and discharge quickly.

The second packs the same capabilities into a single nanowire. The researchers built centimeter-scale arrays containing thousands of nanowire devices, each about 150 nanometers wide. A nanometer is a billionth of a meter, thousands of times smaller than a human hair.


http://www.nanotech-now.com/news.cgi?story_id=43065 .......didn't remember this one......Professor Pulickel Ajayan




pdf: Re-considering the Economics of Photovoltaic Power
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:2RbKjyUs7GIJ:www.bnef.com/WhitePapers/download/82+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiVA-saXdT-pZJNb_nCPrNuvebp3wXAaBey4Sc4uxnJnpCPj6zCztJlnmC2drqReHQjPbu_k6cf2iHO7x2gIqolPmfJQAV0xe5DdSeoo7JU-P4Fsg1KHOKgf98oXdFNKyNFFADs&sig=AHIEtbRad5vW85oh8pz_HGVdaKBRNzXx_Q

I like koolaid. Using numbers from Crunch's post; going forward with 2013 as year 1 and 2032 as year 20 and projecting a CAGR @ 20% (for that period, which is less than research seems to suggest for solar), one would end with a sp over $800.
I don't know that QMC would see that kind of growth rate every year, (some more, others less).
Given the number of markets that are opening and the size of them, I think the potential is there.
Right now, I'm glad to see any upward sp movement and news when it arrives.

I have enjoyed the conversations.

Do we have any other Engineers, Scientists, Business or Stock Professionals on this board?

If so your help and input would be much appreciated.

Thanks to those that contribute.

understand and appreciate but msg would be better addressed in a pm....subject to IH......this is subject to IH too.

Appreciate your pov.

2 questions for you:

What kind of materials?

Would you help interpet pertinent data in regards to QMC technoloy and revelance?

Your recent contributions have been more down to earth and enjoyable. For that I Thank you.

am glad to see people having fun. Swinging a pick and mattox makes me feel less than sunny.

then be sure to go with a Health Monitor nanopatch that can implement self-repair and treatment as needs arise.

isn't that saying that since nanoparticles are so small, that there is no need to look? On the other hand, to look into something and consider things carefully leads to new information to consider.
Data is rarely irrelevant to me. I hope the discourse continues.
If others know of other means that can be used to better understand QMC and nanotech trend I ask you to share your knowledge and pov.
In my mind, an educated investor is the most stable and more likely to have a sense of fair value for the SP.

If others have enjoyed the discourse, please acknowledge those that have contributed.
My Thanks to all that have done so.

Loooking forward to the next Q too.

Thanks, the knowledge and information base is growing for all.
I also hope all feel free to jump in.

GLTA

Thanks for thinking out loud, informative and fun.
Issues discussed help all to get a better understanding.
Keep up the good work.

Thank you. I for one, will most likely be busy with family.

Have enjoyed the onput.

Thanks for the input. Your pov helps expand the awareness of things to be considered, (or reconsidered) when investing.
Luck with your other ventures and see you then.

Good Fortune to you.

more than my modest pot. It sounds like you have a good plan with both feet on the ground. I wish you success, John.

GLTA

sounds like a plan and a goal.

Looking Forward to the day

LOL, Feds might do it.
Apple went from 50-700 in less time, but understand your point.
In that regard, I'll be happy to see a contract and upward momentum on sp. I expect everyone has numbers and a plan relative to their pov. The last thing I want is for anyone to get lost in the maze of another person's thoughts.

Good to hear from you.

You bring up an interesting point; on one hand you acknowledge a positive line of thought......on the other you advocate for a cheaper sp.
On the cheaper sp, is it because you have data to support that line of thought or because you just want a cheaper price point?
On a cheaper sp line of thought, when is cheap, cheap enough?
Wouldn't .00001 be better?

On the positives, does any of it have any value to you?

I am interested in your pov and how you evaluate data to get to .015 - .02.

Thanks

I liked the 10K. More solid news and a sp trend starting up would all be good imo. I'm willing to wait.
I also appreciate the attitude of those that would get their invested money back and or take a profit. They tend to have their feet on the ground.

Looking Forward to that day.

might be looking at the other side of the sod myself.
A steady slope of 45 would be ideal, imo.
Party at your place when you dump?

Looking forward here...$1..$2..$3.....

20yrs/LT val of current shares $600

How about you?

Thanks,still on the green side of the sod and holding steady here.
Have more projects than I have time and energy for.
Hope things are going well for you and yours. GL

oh well, Laughter is a good thing, (a toddy for the body).

Thanks for the reply. I'm looking to be in long term myself.

GLTA

responding to lineman's post 14034 and helping dig a little to see
what we kick up

a little more on Stephen McGrew

http://www.nli-ltd.com/patents.php

.........NewLight Industries bar on left

from your link


"This is also related to U.S. Pat. No. 6,263,104 entitled "METHOD AND APPARATUS FOR READING AND VERIFYING HOLOGRAMS",
which is incorporated herein by reference."


....as it's incorporated, thought some might like to look

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6263104.html


.....along the line of patents from Austin

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/maps

maybe a little browse with a cup of java. Art had mentioned gluten free QD.
You know me, Look-a-little


http://foundnewsthatmatters.wordpress.com/tag/diabetes/


https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ACGW_enUS343US344#hl=en&sugexp=les%3Bcesh&gs_nf=3&gs_mss=biocompatible%20t&tok=RpLoqLBwz7VcwkkvItpoYQ&cp=37&gs_id=4w&xhr=t&q=biocompatible%20tetrapod%20QD%20gluten%20free&pf=p&rlz=1T4ACGW_enUS343US344&sclient=psy-ab&oq=biocompatible+tetrapod+QD+gluten+free&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=abb8a25405b3a2c8&bpcl=35466521&biw=1366&bih=578




https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:7853BQSXc1IJ:www.nanodrug.cnr.it/docs/Book%2520of%2520Abstracts.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESghhw_muI11inhvceZ-Hw-GxSmN97CetzRyaCfkTbs5372Qve0eIdK3jpQiGDPmvXNe-mKyBZOC5KZTw_qNO9mEiC5ayrWxjw5o4n6gswXfRb1I9tCWUDWtZqlA4etrqFyIRM_-&sig=AHIEtbR8csKRaOxDPvuKoWrhdoHDtS686w

......broader scope about nanomed. Good subject matter, but I wonder where we're at in the US now.





IMPAC II Report Output
List of Grantee Organizations Registered in NIH eRA Commons
October 21, 2012 9:59 AM
Total number of registered institutions = 24033


http://era.nih.gov/commons/quick_queries/ipf_com_org_list.cfm?keepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&k..

......NanoAxis is on the list


GLTA

Help, please

Your investment style is a mystery to me in regards to QMC. You seem learned and experienced in regards to investing.
No pie-in-the-sky optimism....you tend to shoot it down with laughter and derision,.... not a gambler. A retirement
account would run dry if invested in all things with callous disregard. No, facts are what you base decisions on.
You turned down an offer for contact with the company.
Did you already have contact with QMC?
If not, what are the facts which are pertinent enough for you to invest $50K+?

I read things like the following and my mind begins to look toward the trend and likely success of some.

"In May 2012, a Saudi representative said that the nation plans to invest over $100 billion to develop 41 gigawatts of solar power by 2032."

http://inhabitat.com/saudi-arabia-plans-to-go-100-renewable-in-coming-decades/ ......(link from Hawk)


......given that SA has been at this for a while, there numbers
should be within the realm of reality.
That would put 1 gigawatt @ $2.439 Billion.
QMC has a MOU with SA for 1 gigawatt by 2015.
What's a reasonable expectation for materials QMC would
provide?
Would it also be reasonable to presume a forward PE,
(at that time)?

Thinking like the above raises the specter, that I may be too optimistic. QMC is not a one-trick pony, imo. However, without some forward projections based on information available, I'm stumped how a fact based investor invests without insider information or current revenues.
It makes me wonder about the saying of selling into a rally on news. How does one get into position ahead of the curve w/o projections, but just based on facts?
I know this highlights what I don't know, but your help in understanding this would be much appreciated.


Thanks

GLTA

maybe a little browse with a cup of java. Art mentioned gluten free QD. You know me, Look-a-little


http://foundnewsthatmatters.wordpress.com/tag/diabetes/


https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ACGW_enUS343US344#hl=en&sugexp=les%3Bcesh&gs_nf=3&gs_mss=biocompatible%20t&tok=RpLoqLBwz7VcwkkvItpoYQ&cp=37&gs_id=4w&xhr=t&q=biocompatible%20tetrapod%20QD%20gluten%20free&pf=p&rlz=1T4ACGW_enUS343US344&sclient=psy-ab&oq=biocompatible+tetrapod+QD+gluten+free&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=abb8a25405b3a2c8&bpcl=35466521&biw=1366&bih=578




https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:7853BQSXc1IJ:www.nanodrug.cnr.it/docs/Book%2520of%2520Abstracts.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESghhw_muI11inhvceZ-Hw-GxSmN97CetzRyaCfkTbs5372Qve0eIdK3jpQiGDPmvXNe-mKyBZOC5KZTw_qNO9mEiC5ayrWxjw5o4n6gswXfRb1I9tCWUDWtZqlA4etrqFyIRM_-&sig=AHIEtbR8csKRaOxDPvuKoWrhdoHDtS686w

......broader scope about nanomed. Good subject matter, but I wonder where we're at in the US now.





IMPAC II Report Output
List of Grantee Organizations Registered in NIH eRA Commons
October 21, 2012 9:59 AM
Total number of registered institutions = 24033


http://era.nih.gov/commons/quick_queries/ipf_com_org_list.cfm?keepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&k..

......NanoAxis is on the list


Appreciate the work you do.

Thanks for that Specvestor. Smokin' info

Nano staples proposed as means of mechanically joining low surface energy materials

Read more: http://www.newmaterials.com/News_Detail_Nano_staples_proposed_as_means_of_mechanically_joining_low_surface_energy_materials_12739.asp#ixzz29cTiI2d2




Project 1 - DAB810
QUT Architectural Design 8

http://dab810-project1-dalepartridge.blogspot.com/2012/08/nano-chip-technology.html

.....makes one wonder


GL

something to keep in mind is timing.
A123 evidently didn't have enough product demand to stay in business. When QMC emerges,(with contracts in hand) it'll be with a long term view, (consistent with statements in Qs/Ks).

I hope all are keeping track of the rhythms of SP and the Daily Short Chart as well of conversation flow.

GLTA

the future is upon us, even as we think