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WOW sorry I was away yesterday guess i missed a huge jump. Just got to the computer. Nice Play Flats. MAn i am just dumbfounded and speechless. Anyway happy thanksgiving to all. and congrats to many of you!
yeah i feel much better. My feelings have become that this has become more of a fun game more than anything else. Up or down I decided im having a great time playing.
flats help me out. send me info. i need to know.... Im pondering so hard my brain hurts.
called desmond last night. Some young lady's voice picked up. I aked her if she was desmond and she replied no. I then asked if I could speak with him. She said he was in a meeting and would not be out for a few more hours. I didn't call back later. maybe ill try again tonight.
These are all of ecarfly's webpages. That is "if" they own the server eautodroppoff. I would expect them to because it hosts ecarfly.com They are still playing host for eautodrop/complete auto. try them for yourself
1. autodropoff.com
2. autodropoffcenter.com
3. autodropoffcenters.com
4. autodropofflocations.com
5. eautodropofapopka.com
6. eautodropofcleveland.com
7. eautodropoff.com
8. eautodropoffairfax.com
9. eautodropphx.com
10. ecarfly.com
11. ezcarauctions.com
flatsfox, sorry i can't send private messages but i appreciate those you have send me. I would also enjoy hearing what DD you have come up with.
Now Just for kicks I would like to add to my conspiracy theory. Not necesarrily how i feel but lets say for fun. read till the end flats i wrote the ending for you!
the conspiracy theory. Ecarfly was created by J dobchich and consultants, whom own complete auto/ eautodrop and many more online based car selling companies. They decide by creating ecfl they can gain public interest and become a public entity with the acqusition... Or they have no intentsions of aquiring/merging, they just anounance this.
They gain public interest, pump the hell out of the stock (mass faxes)PRing all completeautos small agreements with ebay, carmax, General motars, ashberry group tedd Britt (whom ecarfly hosts for), etc etc.
Then they have the split and confuse people on what the O/S is. They dump the shares on to the market while continuing to pump the merger and all completeautos accomplishments.
They sell out all the shares they can and then announce that the merger falls through. Stock bombs with the public losing out.
The only people that hate completeauto and eautodrop are people left with the stock, so eautodrop comes out unscathed. EBAY doesn't care about Ecarfly, because it was in no way official bound with autodrop/complete auto. If they came after complete auto/ autodrop they would just say the merger fell through (same thing they tell us)
ECFL was able to PR all these relationships when really it was just complete auto who had them.
ECFL is now just a name/stock. People on the inside knew this. Thats why the stock was shorted so much. They knew what was going to happen.
many people become very rich, more people become very poor.
THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY. here you go guys some of you will like this part (since you love the stock so much)
Now lets just say that these "manipulators" who have flooded the market with millions of shares decide that they were going to accumulate and buy them back for a much much muchg lower price. What would happen to the stock then?
I realise most people no longer have faith in the company, and are angry they have lost money. This is a perfect emotional card to pull. The second they realize they can "make there money back, because they see it start to rise they will do the unthinkable and get back in to recover losses.
Stock is pumped again, people buy back in and the stock shoots up.
Ecarflys hosted sites
1. autodropoff.com
2. autodropoffcenter.com
3. autodropoffcenters.com
4. autodropofflocations.com
5. eautodropofapopka.com
6. eautodropofcleveland.com
7. eautodropoff.com
8. eautodropoffairfax.com
9. eautodropphx.com
10. ecarfly.com
11. ezcarauctions.com
Conspiracy theory.....
Those buying more, please explain to me........why? I might believe that their will be a small bounce, but preticting that is just rediculous. Tell me what anyone sees in the future of this company. Where would they go from here? where could they go from Here? The PR admits the ship has sank. Meeting with lawyers to see what chance the company has for survival is bleek. Tell me what ECFL has to offer. ON any level? They were banking on this Merger. Thats what this company has been from the beginning. This company was created so complete auto/eautodrop would be a public entity, or at least thats the way they made it look. They needed complete auto so people would have a name to trust.
Some more looking at webpages makes me even more confused. Ecarfly or at least eautodroppoff (which never got off the ground) was and still is hosting for eautodrop and complete auto on three of its eight pages. eautodropoffairfax.com eautodropphx.com eautodropofcleveland.com
1. autodropoff.com
2. autodropoffcenter.com
3. autodropoffcenters.com
4. autodropofflocations.com
5. eautodropofapopka.com
6. eautodropofcleveland.com
7. eautodropoff.com
8. eautodropoffairfax.com
9. eautodropphx.com
10. ecarfly.com
11. ezcarauctions.com
Now the conspiracy theory. Ecarfly was created by J dobchich and consultants, whom own complete auto/ eautodrop and many more online based car selling companies. They decide by creating ecfl they can gain public interest and become a public entity with the acqusition/ Or they have no intentsions of aquiring/merging, they just anounance this, gain public interest, pump the hell out of the stock, have the split/ now people have no clue what the O/S is. They dump the shares on to the market and then announce that the merger falls through.
The only people that hate completeauto and eautodrop are people left with the stock, so eautodrop comes out unscathed.
ECFL was able to PR all these relationships when really it was just complete auto who had them.
ECFL is now just a name/stock. People on the inside knew this. Thats why the stock was shorted so much. They knew what was going to happen.
Call it what you want, a scam, call it manipulation, pump and dump, it doen't matter.
Any questions?
I have to agree. As of right now, there is NO buisness. How can there be a company with no buisness. They have no longer have any sort of ebay agreement. No revenue (except for dumped shares) no profits. nothing. Offices? what offices, what buisness? What company?
Flats i can't see how you believe in this.
The call center in Las Vegas was their only source of income. They pumped out spam faxes and sold their stock!
AMAZINGKARMA please remove Completauto sticker at top of page. It's making me sick
half off sale! Only at ecarfly.com
be very very careful. Most people have lost enough already. You know what, I believe shorters are cash in right now. Man they will be getting there kids great holiday gifts. Good thing I don't have kids, they wouldn't get sht
well heres the good news. We are all on the same team now. Sorry I got upset. Just a bit of frustration.
Here's a couple tips.
1. Never fall in love with any stock (until you have sold it for a gain/ cash in hand).
2. Penny stocks are like playing with fire, sooner or later you're going to get burned.
dben, well there will be no happy party in Vegas, but you can join me for the loser party. LOL
truth is i played this stock pre merger made money and only re-invested that. I only own 10,000 shares. truth is I still have them. truth is if I sell them, I might pay more for commission than ill end up getting
LOL!
i knew there would be some positive reaction from this PR. You guys are kidding right. Because, I just got off the phone with my buddy at the water treatment plant, and well they're all backed up removing shares of ecfl that people have flushed down the toilet.
sure buy more buy more. its still a great buying opportunity
LOL!!!!
I TOLD YOU!!! none of you wanted to listen. ALL THE SIGNS WERE THERE!!! BASH BASH BASH thats all people are bashers bashers bashers. accept the fact that you were all wrong. This company was a pump and dump from the beginning. how much more obvious was it.
Where is everyone now?? Ecarfly is nothing...... nothing but a tax write off. And people are laughing at all yours and even my expense. URRRR!!!
God I am so pisted, sorry.
i would have to agree with the dilution theory. What does it mean when a comapny spam faxes people from the company office? They are trying to get rid of something they don't want(shares). It is obvious all the PR's were to pump this stock so dilution could occur.
yes, but as you wait, the more you lose. I have a fraction of what I used too. I started investing post merger playing day trader and made quite a bit. Post merger I took advice of many on the board to wait long haul. Bad decision. To put it this way i took a big dent to the wallet, but have had other plays that have done well in the mean time. What I have left invested is for shts and giggles.
I just don't see this going back to pre-split price. With news of a finalized merger, sure we could see pop, but no where near where it was. They have let it sink too far.
reason why i think it was a pump and dump was because the only thing keeping it alive was pump faxes and emails, along with multiple prs. Now they stop and the runs are over.
it just upsets me to see how many people really believed in this stock (at one point myself included). There were so many warning signs. But I guess there is no reason to beat a dead horse. The stock chart speaks for its self.
chevy, thank you maybe i was misinterpretting. I do not intend to be malicious as though many times i may come off negative enough and it may seem that way.
however, if i am attacked personally, like this case
"Pennypusher1 annoying bastard. He says he owns no shares (yeah right) but then he bashes and complains all day like a pregnant woman ! he probably is a woman."
i will respond maliciously.
flats and chevy, that is what i don't understand
you say, "speculation is ok, except when negative"
so all positive speculation is great and wonderful. So everytime someone speculates that this company is gonna do well, we should all get excited and happy and applaud him for his positive speculation, but if someone speculates bad, jump on top of him and call him a basher and knock him down.
Facts are facts, speculation is speculation. The question is where you draw the line. Is what ECFL puts out in PR fact or speculation. Funny how they always post a disclamer at the bottom of those press releases.
Thruth is whether speculation is positive or negative its all the same speculation.
Maybe some people on this board like speculation, except when it's positive speculation, and it's wrong.
The post geared toward me was that since i questioned the stock, I was then a basher, and since the people on RB believed this stock was going to $10 and they would have a big party, and i would have to go to the "loser party" because I questioned it. At that point I told them, that if they owned this stock, they were the real losers. Case closed. In fact that is true.
Flats I would guess that you are one of the lucky one on this board buying in at .012 and catching a blip to .015 i aplaud you for being able to profit off this stock. However just because you caught a .003 gain in no way indicates that this stock is so super duper fantastic. I did my DD and came to my own conclusions. Personally I wish i wasn't posting here, because that would indicate I didn't buy into ECFL.
Premium I only wish i had shorted this stock LOL
I would be a very rich man. At yours and everyone elses expense.
Believe me no one needs to cover their shorts, they have already won. LOL
If you were smart, you would have played the shorts when the report showed that Approximately 30.9 million Shares were Shorted Since January 2005 According to Buyins.net Research Report
From January 2005 to October 2006 approximately 401.5 million total aggregate shares of ECFL have traded for a total dollar value of nearly $57.7 million.
The total aggregate number of shares shorted in this time period is approximately 30.9 million shares.
The reported Total Short Interest as of September 12th is 24,890.
Month Total Vol. Short Vol Avg.Price $Value
Feb 05 250 19 $0.50 $10
July 100 8 $0.10 $1
Aug 25 2 $0.50 $1
Sept 180 14 $0.10 $1
Oct 30 2 $0.10 $0
Dec 125 10 $0.10 $1
Feb 06 400 31 $0.30 $9
Mar 64 5 $0.30 $1
July 18,573,100 1,430,129 $0.29 $408,302
Aug 138,024,096 10,627,855 $0.18 $1,909,826
Sept 228,106,688 17,564,215 $0.12 $2,025,154
Oct 16,750,099 1,289,758 $0.08 $96,990
Tot 401,455,157 30,912,047 $0.14 $4,440,296
*short volume is approximated using a proprietary algorithm.
**average short price is calculated using a volume weighted average short price
First off the statement to the new guy who hasn't been around for the continuous cheering of this stock as it plummited from .10 i thought i would introduce him to the board of very positive people who still to this day claim great buying opportunity at now nearly sub-penny level. Now to your quotes, on RB someone called me a loser so my response, "the only losers are the ones who own this stock". This statement couldn't be any more true then stated. IF YOU OWN THIS STOCK, YOU ARE LOSING MONEY!!(unless yu are shorting, which on this board is unheard of.) Now to the next quote. "Desmond Milligan was responsible for dumping millions of shares starting at .10" That was never said, what was said if you go back in my posts was that I believed a certain individual dropped close to 100M shares about 3-4 weeks ago. I find it funny that now that the MM that were 2-3million once before has now stopped. I believe somone up-top has diluted this stock to the point of no return.... ECARFLY has not updated there website and no one can talk to them. They have not one time come out and straight forward said what the O/S was.
Now flatsfox i would like to know why "Purchase of this stock below .05 is as close to a no brainer" now that this stock is .011 is it still a no brainer, I also heard this stock was a "steal" at .1 If so what would it be considered now.
On we go, you also "With this in mind, there should be no reason the merger will not be consumated. At some point, I would not be surprised if Autoway and CarMax decided they want in with Ecarfly at some level"...is this not highly speculative?
If you want to go back and analyze everyone of my posts, go ahead. the truth is we hear are all highly speculative. Some more than others, the great thing is that everyone is open to their own opinion.
srloan, you have come to the right place if your looking to feal all warm and cuddly about ECFL. a lot of people have broken rule number one on this board. Don't fall in love with a stock.
This is the place where people tell you it's ok this stock has dropped hard, it's just the beginning and because the news of the infamous "merger" is right around the corner (any day now). your shares will go to the "moon" or where ever the hell you want them to go.
dillution occured when the O/S went to 1.2 billion
Look at the chart. look at october 8th- 20th. Who is dumping all those shares?
The fairy God mother?
ive been saying dilution forever. Nobody wants to listen around here.
scroll up a bit and look at that big black chart and tell me what you see.
dben keep pumpin baby keep pumpin!
what paperwork filed? I see no paper work that the merger has taken place.
And Ebay? yeah because ebay is posting all the Ecarfly cars. Oh yeah what Ecarfly cars? As far as I know Eautodrop isn't selling them either. I too sent emails inquiring about the cars and got no response. Reed calls and is told the will be delisted. Hmmm. that doesn't sound shady to me at all.
So from what I see, there are no ecarfly cars.
if a company is not conducting buisness. Is it a company you would want to invest money in? Think about that?
The pump faxes from ecarfly's Las vegas office stopped long ago.
Why are people still pumping this stock?
You guys are a couple months too late.
the company doesn't care much for its sharholders. Don't be fooled people. This was a pump and dump. You need to realize the pumping is over. you should have dumped already!
well with all the good news thats been posted here. maybe ill wait til it "goes to da moon" Besides, it sounds like this desmond is a nice fellow. :)
why would someone who has lost so much continue to pump this stock when it has crashed so hard.
Its like losing money and bragging about it.
this has been the best post i have yet to see on this board. Thank you!
What do all the optimists think of this?
My friend said he talked to desmond. Desmond said he is running the price down so he can accumulate prior to the merger news. Don't worry everyone merger news is comming out at the end of the week.
Db, what have I been telling you since the split when we were at .06?
No, i let the stock price speak for itself, .0115
Have a nice day dben :)
I'm a little confused. If this were delisted Fonar could become a private company? My other thought is what are the chances of a reverse split to keep the stock listed?
looks like you all are having a great day. lol
I contacted eautodrop buy email 2 weeks ago about a car listed for ecarlfy. I have still yet to her back from them. Is this good buisness. How do you have financials if you don't actually attempt to sell he car?
Funny how there was a massive campaign of spam faxes and emails, comming out three months ago and them someone dropping boatloads of this stock 1-2M at a time.
I'm sorry but believe this stock is diluted to the point of no return :( right now, what you see is what you get.
i love how you guys turn nothing into a "positive situation" Sure the merger news will come, but i bet this stock only sees a blip on that. Can't you see the dilution. This stock can't even get above .016 that is pittiful.
won't go over .0165 until the 500k i own sell
it will also mean less buying, slowing the run down.