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Thanks Marty : ) eom
Also...
FYI, here's a link to a post that had an embedded link which didn't work correctly:
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=122281
Take care,
Sara
Matt,
I'm not sure if you've answered this before, but how would you suggest dealing with a Chairman or Director who is abusive to posters on their board?
Sara
VWAP explained
Volume-Weighted Average Price (VWAP): definitions, opportunities and the future
In today’s fast moving financial landscape, acronyms replace descriptions with alarming speed. This is partly done in the interests of efficiency, and partly in the interests of mystification. So it is with VWAP. VWAP stands for ‘volume-weighted average price’ and represents the total value of shares traded in a particular stock on a given day, divided by the total volume of shares traded in that stock on that day. Calculation techniques vary: some will use data from all markets, some from just the primary market and may or may not adjust for resubmits and other error corrections. VWAP is a method of pricing transactions and also a benchmark to measure the efficiency of institutional trading or the performance of traders themselves. VWAP is drawing an increasing market following, so it is only fitting that there should be a VWAP article in this tenth edition of The Handbook of World Stock, Derivative and Commodity Exchanges.
As is often the case with financial innovations, VWAP is not welcomed by all market participants with unbridled enthusiasm. To quote Raymond Chandler, some people see innovations in the same light as they would see “a tarantula on an angel cake”. Or as one old trader once commented, “Do you know what’s been the main cause of early death in traders? Averaging!” Similar treatment has been given in the past to options (now a mainstream instrument even used by the day-trading general public), futures (now used as a daily hedging and positioning tool across the entire investment sector) and hedge funds (many mainstream fund managers have now established their own in-house ones). The answer to these objections is simple: different products have different advantages. It makes sense to use them when appropriate. VWAP is a useful additional tool, based on a simple but powerful idea. It has numerous implications that may not at first sight be obvious. Just as Henry Ford thought he was pioneering the mass-production of cars, but was in fact inventing the suburbs, VWAP requires more careful examination.
VWAP offers a smoothed price, incorporating both highs and lows and every trade in between into a single end-of-day price. This smoothing role was used by the London Stock Exchange. With the move from quote-driven to order-driven trading, closing prices were on occasion becoming unrepresentative of actual market conditions, thus eroding the Exchange’s reputation for accurate price formation. In response, the Exchange began calculating its closing prices using a VWAP methodology in December 1998. The Exchange calculates a VWAP based on the final ten minutes of trading and uses that VWAP as its closing price.
Executing VWAP trades: crossing and time-slicing compared
VWAP can be traded either on a crossing basis or a time-sliced basis. ‘Crossing’, as the name implies, means that an order is crossed between two counterparties and not executed with market-makers. No trade is executed in the marketplace. Because the buy and sell price of the two counterparties is identical, there is no market impact. Recent research by the Plexus Group quoted in Fortune Magazine found that a stock moves around 2% over the course of an extended institutional order – even more in the case of an illiquid stock or an especially large trade. After the order is filled, the price typically drifts back towards its pre-trade level. Although market impact is exceptionally difficult to measure, it is a very real trading cost. Crossing a VWAP deal presupposes a verifiable method of calculating VWAP. VWAP will not accurately be known until after the market closes, so both parties need to have confidence that they are using a ‘fair’ VWAP on which to base their crossing trade. For example, Ashton’s eVWAP™ is a fully automated crossing system that establishes the first and only US exchange calculated VWAP for US stocks. (Both the calculation and system are trademarked “eVWAP™”). The eVWAP™ calculation was subject to US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) scrutiny and incorporates trades reported on the US Consolidated Tape. It embraces regular way trades, late trades, re-transmits and corrections. It is calculated on a consistent and reliable basis day-in and day-out. Other US equity VWAPs are less regulated vendor calculations, which may be based on data from the primary market only for a particular stock. By using all market data, eVWAP™ assures a truer pricing assessment.
‘Time-slicing’ a VWAP order into the market is the alternative approach to crossing it. Time-slicing causes market impact as it involves actual trades into the market. A typical trading approach is to divide the trading day into so many time periods of the same length and trade the appropriate proportion of shares during each time period. One problem with this is that in addition to prices being volatile during the trading day, so is volume. Share volume is not evenly spread over the course of the day, with implications for the final VWAP figure at the end of the trading day. To compensate for this problem, time-slicers may use a “black box”. The black box may use an algorithm profiling a particular stock’s volume during each time period and simultaneously trade a corresponding amount of stock. Due to bid/ask spreads, market volatility and higher execution costs, time-slicing may result in inferior execution pricing than crossing orders at a “pure” VWAP calculation. Traditional agency brokers often offer VWAP executions on a best-efforts basis.
Quote vendors such as Bloomberg, Reuters and Bridge disseminate a dynamically updated VWAP throughout the trading day, enabling brokers slicing orders into the market to monitor their progress. This information can also be used by traders who have crossed a VWAP trade (with the price to be advised after the market has closed) to trade around that core position.
Electronic trading
Easy VWAP calculation and dissemination would not be readily available without the dramatic increases in affordable computing power. Financial trading is becoming inexorably more electronic and VWAP is part of this trend. In March 1999 the US SEC estimated that alternative trading systems (ATSs) executed approximately 20% of the total volume in Nasdaq securities and projected that this figure would triple by 2003. The shift to electronic trading is amply demonstrated in Europe by the rise of Deutsche Borse/Eurex and the conversion of previous hard-line open-outcry exchange Liffe to screen trading. The same pattern is repeated in the US, not only in the growth of ATSs and ECNs (electronic communication networks), but also in such developments as the proposed advent of the fully electronic options exchange, the International Stock Exchange.
Advantages of electronic crossing of VWAP orders
Automatic electronic systems are now frequently used to cross VWAP orders. For example, Ashton’s electronic crossing system for eVWAP™ is a completely anonymous pre-opening order-matching system for the execution of large-sized equity orders at the VWAP. The eVWAP™ system is the only VWAP crossing system sponsored by a registered US national exchange (the Philadelphia Stock Exchange). Following a morning order entry period, matches occur at 9.20 a.m. (US Eastern Time), with the final eVWAP™ calculated and reported to users at 4.20 p.m. each day. If the order cannot be crossed because of the absence of a counterbalancing order, the customer is notified – electronically and confidentially – before Wall Street opens, giving him time to issue instructions to operate in the market and avoid any opportunity cost. Alternatively, if an order is only part filled, the customer can focus on trading any residual in the market. Another advantage of electronic trading is that anonymity is guaranteed. With VWAP crossing systems that involve human interface, some information leakage inevitably occurs, with a corresponding impact on price. Lastly, the electronic execution of VWAP crossing orders is normally cheaper than the non-electronic version.
VWAP trading can also be used to reduce some of the burden from the trader. Traders are an expensive resource, and a busy trader may choose to execute some of his order flow via a dedicated VWAP system, leaving him to focus on areas where his time and skill may be better employed. Systems such as eVWAP™ provide traders, who may be under pressure to cut costs, with a way of adding value without making themselves redundant. In addition to its cost advantages, eVWAP™ also offers an additional trading tool and source of liquidity, which the trader can use to position himself against during the trading day.
VWAP users
A major trading consultant recently estimated that orders connected with VWAP pricing strategies constitute 12% of overall US equity trading volume. Today’s users of VWAP crossing systems are typically institutional fund managers and brokers. Fund managers can optimize portfolio returns by reducing transaction costs and guaranteeing consistent executions. Brokers can eliminate the need to hold lines of stock or concern themselves about liquidity and market timing once an electronic VWAP cross trade has been confirmed.
VWAP conceivably holds great allure for retail investors and retail brokers. As market volatility rises, making the decision when to execute a trade during the day difficult, brokers could simply offer a VWAP execution to their retail customers. Retail customers’ choice would certainly benefit if brokers offered to execute at “market,” “limit price” or “VWAP”. Indeed, Ashton has developed aggregation software so that a broker’s retail order flow can be bundled to meet the minimum eVWAP™ order size.
The acceptance of VWAP by institutions varies. Some large portfolio managers may consider VWAP to be the best trading benchmark, accurately reflecting the balance of supply and demand in a single price. The analogy can be used of the daily settlement prices for base metals determined by the supply and demand on the London Metal Exchange and widely used as daily international reference prices in the world of base metal trading. Pro-VWAP and anti-VWAP sentiments are evident in the media, but it can be argued that the need for VWAP crossing systems and other trading systems that reduce trading costs and market impact for large orders has never been clearer. For example, in the December 20 1999 edition of Financial Times Mandate, Barclays Global Investors claimed in new research that there was a limit to the value of assets an active manager could invest effectively.
BGI claimed that a point is reached at which the cost of trading starts to erode the value added by an active fund manager. Andrew Skirton, chief investment officer in Europe for BGI explained: “The key cost is market impact. The cost of investing more than doubles for a doubling of volume. As assets grow, it is harder to buy all your stocks at the market price.”
This conclusion was of course contested by active fund managers, who pointed to large active managers such as Schroders and Mercury who were still performing well. What does seem to be true is that – in the US, at least – the largest institutions are more likely than in the past to deal in large blocks of 250,000 shares or more. Such orders now account for 76% of their volume, up from 20% five years ago, according to Plexus Group, a trading research service.
VWAP also has relevance to another fashionable “issue” in the asset management business, that of indexing versus active management. Index trackers claim that they can often outperform active managers and also do it more cheaply. Active managers retort that most index trackers have not seen a prolonged bear market and that the value focused approach used by active managers enables them to use their superior analytical skill. VWAP, since it offers an average pricing product, is likely to appeal to index trackers (either overt or ‘closet’) who already try to minimise excess volatility in their returns by using an index. In a similar way, VWAP could be used to avoid buying at the daily highs and selling at the daily lows and provide a smoothed replicated index to fund managers, using VWAP transactions in the relevant stocks to mimic the index.
One specific group of fund managers who may be particularly interested in VWAP are market neutral funds, who trade pairs of stocks (long one, short the other) in the same sector, aiming to capture differential moves in the two stocks while avoiding market risk. Because they are buying and selling a position that they will in due course unwind, they are keen to trade at a benchmark price that does not include any bid-offer spread, a small but relentless cost for fund managers. A single definitive VWAP price has a strong appeal to them.
Lastly, corporations should consider embracing VWAP as a fair pricing practice in connection with their dividend reinvestment and corporate buyback programs. In this regard, corporations, and more importantly regulators, should readily see that VWAP is much less susceptible to manipulation than pricing large trades at “last sale” prices.
Disadvantages of VWAP
There are two sides to every argument. One of the advantages of VWAP is also one of its disadvantages: price smoothing. Just as some institutions will feel attracted to a price that removes the chance of hitting the day’s high (for the buyer) or the day’s low (for the seller), others will see VWAP as a quick way of giving up trading opportunities. As one trader remarked: “Use VWAP? We beat it!” Also, VWAP, unlike the price on a conventional stock trade, is only known with complete certainty at the end of the trading day.
VWAP is a broad measure derived from trades in the market and can be used as a convenient and common-sense benchmark for individual transactions, but there may be times when traders choose to execute a deal above the VWAP price. Looked at in purely VWAP terms this may be a “bad” trade, but motivational and size issues need to be considered as well. A trader pays for immediacy and may be pleased to execute a large conventional trade quickly, above the VWAP price, so as to avoid the price impact – difficult as it is to measure – of information leakage. (With an electronic VWAP crossing system, of course, information leakage does not occur, as there is no human intervention.)
The future: global VWAP standardisation and enhanced VWAP products
VWAP crossing systems are another way of bundling up trades in one price on one ticket. The discussion in this article has been wholly confined to daily VWAPs. As was pointed out in the opening comments, however, VWAP is a simple concept that can be applied to many different price universes. How about a closing hour VWAP, for example? Or an inter-day VWAP that could account for pricing a large block that could take days to execute in entirety? What about a VWAP for specific national and trans-national sectors? Trading on the first day of new issues is often extremely volatile: why not focus initial secondary trading of such issues on a VWAP pricing basis? So long as a consistent and comprehensive price feed is available, a VWAP is possible for all stocks. Finally, greater standardisation in systems and calculations relating to VWAP is likely. Ashton’s eVWAP™ is an example of this trend. With such standardisation taking place in the US, further global standardisation is likely. Ashton’s eVWAP™ system will soon be introduced in Canada and Hong Kong for VWAP trading of Canadian and Asian stocks. Due to time zone differences, many international money managers actively embrace VWAP pricing as a systematic and fair way of achieving best execution with less active oversight of the foreign broker entrusted with their orders.
Conclusion
VWAP is a price measure that is growing, particularly in the area of investment management. For VWAP to play a role in either trade execution or trade measurement, it needs to be transparent and have the confidence of its users.
VWAP is an institutional product that can be traded in either a time-slicing or crossing system mode. Crossing avoids market impact and bid/offer spreads. Electronic crossing facilities also offer a lower commission cost. Major quote vendors and Ashton’s eVWAP™ system provide a dynamically updated VWAP throughout the day.
The advantages of using an electronically crossed VWAP as a trading tool include total anonymity, a position to trade against, and pre-opening confirmation of trades. VWAP currently seems to be more widely used in the US than in Europe. It may be of particular interest to market-neutral funds and index trackers of all stripes.
Interest in VWAP has been encouraged by the rapid expansion in equity trading volumes and the growing role of institutions in the market. A study by Schwartz and Shapiro found that in 1965 block trades accounted for 3% of New York Stock Exchange trading volume. By 1992 this had risen to 54%. As institutions have become more involved, the costs incurred have fallen. Total trading costs are composed of explicit and implicit components. Explicit trading costs (e.g. commission, clearing and taxes) have fallen. In a 1995 study, Stoll found that commission costs in 1982 were 17.8 cents per share (0.58% of market value), more than double the 1992 figure. Implicit trading costs (e.g. price impact and the width of the bid-asked spread) are notoriously difficult to measure, but perhaps VWAP can be seen as an effort to reduce them. Recently published research shows that, more than ever before, UK fund managers are measuring their transaction costs. Emphasising this point is the fact that over 30 leading UK and continental European fund managers have now signed up to a new institutional crossing network, E-Crossnet. (The advantages of electronic crossing networks have been one of the themes of this article.) Readers of the financial press will also have noticed that investment banks have recently been aggressive investors in alternative trading systems (ATSs), which enable equity business to be transacted away from an exchange. Perhaps the hidden agenda that is common to all these initiatives is that market users are willing to sacrifice some immediacy of execution for a cost saving. A bit like VWAP, perhaps?
Ashton Technology Group, based in Philadelphia, is developing a family of on-line transaction and intelligent matching systems, using advanced telecommunication and computing technologies, together with data and information security technologies, to facilitate global financial transactions. Ashton’s proprietary transaction systems are made available to end users through networks, third parties, and the Internet. Ashton concentrates on the concept of developing alternative trading systems as unique adjuncts to established exchanges. Its US eVWAP™ trading system was launched as a facility of the Philadelphia Stock Exchange (PHLX) in August 1999.
Gary Delany can be contacted at gdelaney@ashtontechgroup.com, telephone (+44) 20 7618 8031.
Gary Delany, Vice President, Ashton Technology Group
http://www.exchange-handbook.co.uk/articles_story.cfm?id=5624
683,000 x 2
By: stosh_5 $$$
Reply To: None Thursday, 7 Jun 2001 at 9:51 AM EDT
Post # of 19877
683,000 x 2 confirmed
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=ASTN&read=19877
More from that article:
"On the bright side for companies being sued, 81 percent of the lawsuits are settled and almost all of the rest are dismissed, according to National Economic Research Associates, which compiled data on 1,763 shareholder lawsuits filed between June of 1991 and June of 2000."
Sara
Article: Investor rage gets ugly
http://www.redherring.com/index.asp?layout=story&channel=20000002&doc_id=1270019 527&id=intuit
Some excerpts:
"In retrospect, the angry -- and often unstable -- reaction of investors isn't all that surprising. Between 1989 and 1999, about 26.4 million brand new investors jumped into the stock market, increasing the total number of investors by 50 percent, according to the Securities Industry Association, a trade group for securities firms. These newcomers treated the Nasdaq like it was Las Vegas -- but for a while, it looked like technology investing had much better odds."
"RAGE MANAGEMENT
The irony, of course, is that investors have not directed their rage at the one place it could really make a difference: themselves. After all, the SEC can only try to protect investors against fraud and market manipulation, not uninformed investment decisions."
Sara
466,000 X 2
By: stosh_5 $$$
Reply To: None Wednesday, 6 Jun 2001 at 9:52 AM EDT
Post # of 19859
466,000 x 2 confirmed
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=ASTN&read=19857
RE: Bullish MACD Crossovers - AQSE
IMO this stock is worth looking at...
Websites for AQSE...
http://www.astafactor.com
http://www.astaxanthin.org/
http://www.aquasearch.com/
And something I found interesting from the letter to shareholders dated January 5, 2001:
"In October 2000, Aquasearch began work on a $2.3 million project, with funding from the U.S. Department of Energy, to develop proprietary "high-value products from microalgae."
Most recent news item:
Aquasearch Signs Sales and Distribution Agreement for The AstaFactor(TM)
KAILUA-KONA, Hawaii, June 4 /PRNewswire/ -- Aquasearch, Inc. (OTC Bulletin Board: AQSE) today signed an agreement with Advantage Webco Dodge to distribute its premier nutraceutical product, The AstaFactor(TM) to retail outlets. The AstaFactor(TM) was developed and is grown by Aquasearch in Hawaii. Webco Dodge is the Hawaii arm of Advantage Sales and Marketing LLC, whose combined national operations have an annual wholesale revenue base of almost 20 billion.
Advantage is one of the nation's leading sales and marketing agencies for food and consumer packaged goods companies. Advantage fulfills the sales, marketing and promotional needs of more than 1,200 manufacturers in the United States. The company represents top brands such as M&M Mars, Tropicana, Unilever HPC, and TwinLab to grocery, drug and mass merchandise outlets, including Wal-Mart, K-Mart, Target, Sam's, Costco, Albertson's, and Safeway. In Hawaii, they also serve Long's Drugs and ABC stores.
... see link for entire article:
http://www.clearstation.com/cgi-bin/drill_event%253fParam%253dNASDAQ%2526Event%253dugrad" target="_new">http://www.clearstation.com/cgi-bin/bbs?post_id=2329445&Refer=http://www.clearstation.com/cgi-bi...
Sara
Okay, this was probably a joke... please disregard.
Sara
p.s. Smokey, Tradin... maybe you could delete it when you get a chance.
Interesting post from Yahoo regarding one investors visit with Fred.
FYI
by: zebra_356 (81/M/Dallas, Tx) 06/05/01 06:07 pm EDT
Msg: 118661 of 118671
I didn't forget you guys, honest! stpsep
5/5/01 11:44 pm
Just now had co. leave the house, and first time I've had a minute to myself!
I tried to get here last night, but had MAJOR problems anywhere I tried to go on Y'hoo. Finally gave up.
I haven't had any time to organize my notes, but I will definately do so B/4 the wknd. is over. I just wanted to say a few things to all of you that have been waiting patiently, and again I apologize for leaving you hanging!
Had a GREAT mtg. with Fred, and as I said to my wife, either he's the greatest salesman of all time, OR this co. is gonna ROCK!
Spent 1 hr. 40 min. with him, one on one, and hit him with EVERYTHING in the letter (NO, I didn't produce the letter), plus a lot of my other concerns.
For those of you that haven't met the man, I have to say I was VERY impressed, and found him to be quite a likeable fellow.
As I said here, or elsewhere, I've been in sales 28 yrs., and have called on the LARGEST co's. in the country, as well as mom & pop operations. And if there's one thing I'm good at, it's getting a feel of how a co's. doing on my first visit. In other words, are they on the way UP or OUT.
Owning my own business for the last 14 yrs., it's an important part of what I do, as I'm the guy approving credit, or not. And I've been fortunate (or lucky) enough to have only gotted burned once in 14 yrs.. Not a bad track record!
My point being, that's the main reason I decided to go to ASTN, to see just WTF I invested hundreds of thousands of my hard-earned $$ into, and starting to think that I just might have ****ed-Up big time!
End of story is, I left there more confident than I've been in a LONG time, and I swear the first thing I did, standing on the sidewalk right outside ATG, was call my broker on my cell & buy another 5K shs.. He had already left me a voice mail to see how the mtg. was going, and in the msg. said 'I don't know what's going on down there with you & Fred, but the damn stock is UP 15%!' :)
I do have some interesting tidbits to share with you, but I've gotta sort through and figure out what I can post, without betraying any confidences with Fred. The first thing I told him was that nothing we discussed would ever appear on the threads, which he appreciated! He HATES the damn msg. boards! I'm not saying he told me secrets that would violate the new selective disclosure rules and all that shit, but he did tell me things, that if they were to appear on the main threads, would know EXACTLY where they came from!
The one thing I will tell ya tonight is, by early to mid-summer (June/July?), we should all be VERY happy! Lots of things happening that should be cranking by that time frame, and REVENUES, finally REVENUES!!!
Sorry I can't tellya more tonight, but I've gotta organize my thoughts/notes.
But I will tellya, I'm a believer now more than ever! This co. is gonna make it, and BIG!
Goodnight!
Mark
eVWAP, June 5th, 36 stocks:
AA ALCOA INC
ABT ABBOTT LAB
AGN ALLERGANM INC.
AIG AMER INTER GRP INC
AOL AMERICA ONLINE
AXP AMERICAN EXPRESS
BA BOEING COMPANY
BAC BANK OF AMERICA
BK BANK OF NEW YORK CO
BLS BELLSOUTH CORP.
BNI BURLINGTON NORTH
C CITIGROUP
CI CIGNA CORP
CPN CALPINE CORP
EMC EMC CORPORATION
FBF FLEETBOSTON
FNM FANNIE MAE
FON SPRINT CORP
G GILLETTE COMPANY
GE GENERAL ELECTRIC
HD HOME DEPOT INC.
HWP HEWLETT-PACKARD
JNJ JOHNSON & JOHNSON
MDT MEDTRONIC INC.
MO PHILIP MORRIS CO
MOT MOTOROLA INC
MRK MERCK & CO., INC
NT NORTEL NETWORKS
PFE PFIZER, INC.
S SEARS, ROEBUCK &
T AT&T CORP.
UNH UNITEDHEALTH GRO
VZ VERIZON COMM
WFC WELLS FARGO NEW
WMT WAL-MART STORES
XOM EXXON MOBIL
2,973,000 shares, executed pre-opening in eVWAP with
complete anonymity, no market impact, at very low fees.
http://www.ashtontechgroup.com/anews.html
Filled : ) eom
gemmerling...
Thought you might be interested in a couple posts I made over on Archie's board. The bottomline was that I emailed GAMZ and was very impressed at their quick and complete response and their openess to any questions or concerns... a excellent sign for any company IMO.
Have a buy order in this morning... hoping to get filled.
Sara
Thanks Arch, it was the least I could do after sticking my foot in my mouth : ) I also was very impressed at the responsiveness of GAMZ and their openess to questions regarding the company. They even invited me for a tour! That's an excellent indicator about any company IMO. And having done some due dilligence on the company, I'm going to see if I can squeeze it into my portfolio.
Sara
1,486,500x2
by: the_grand_poobah2000 06/05/01 09:50 am EDT
Msg: 118493 of 118493
<EOM>
Eating a little crow...
Okay, I owe GAMZ an apology for jumping to conclusions about the title of "secretary". They wrote me a very nice email explaining that it is a legal requirement in Texas. Also notice that they did change her title to Secretary/Treasurer. I'm impressed at how responsive they were to my email.
Here's an the email:
Ms. XXXXXX,
Thank you for your correspondence about our website. We take great pride in our website and put quite a bit of effort into it. So, any critique, I feel, is of considerable value. I am happy to report that your assumptions are unfounded. Ms. Biggs is an integral part of our team and quite frankly
is one of our most valuable assets. The title of secretary is a legal description/name REQUIRED of a corporation to name and fill, not a ploy to pay our team members less. As a matter of fact, Ms. Biggs is one of our most senior employees, manages 3 offices and 5 subordinates, and is highly compensated for her valuable services.
However, I would like to thank you for pointing out this matter and have changed the heading on the Kimberly's bio to read Secretary/Treasurer. I assure you the title is a legal requirement and not indicative of a "glass ceiling."
We here at GameCom are very sensitive to matters of race, gender, and creed within our corporation. I think a visit to our offices would offer you a candid look at our mini "melting-pot" here. You will find, African Americans, European Americans, and Mexican Americans all working side-by-side, and a woman holds one of the top 3 positions here. GameCom's
reality is not what you have described.
I hope now that you have been informed of the facts that will find no hint of impropriety. I welcome you to tour our facilities and further invite you to correspond with Ms. Biggs directly at mailto:XXXXXXXXX (I xxx this out in case it wasn't for public consumption - Sara).
Again, thank you for your correspondence and please feel free to call, tour, or ask further questions. I am more than happy to talk about our company, anytime.
Sincerely,
Steven M. Haag
Steven M. Haag M.Ed.
vice-president of operations and marketing
thanks : ) eom
xxrayeyes,
Great board for getting ideas and DD. I was wondering if the stocks you post DD on are in anyway subtle recommendations by you or if you are just providing info without comment?
Sara
Smokey & Tradin,
A suggestion... it might be handy to put the link to the evwap daily volume graphs (mlo's) in the iBox.
Sara
300,500x2
by: the_grand_poobah2000 06/04/01 09:43 am EDT
Msg: 118355 of 118382
<EOM>
http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&board=4687979&tid=astn&sid=4687979&...
Thanks : ) And thanks for all the good information here.
Sara
Jumping in today : ) eom
ageiche,
I hear what you are saying about the term "Secretary" being used in that sense. But why didn't they put her title as "Secretary Treasurer"? or "Treasurer" or "Legal Administrator"? Maybe you could point out to me some other examples of "Secretaries" as executives in the corporate world. I just checked the company I work for and a few others and found no such title at that level. Then I searched Edgar for the period starting 2000 and ending 2001 and got only this many hits on "secretary": "Your search matched 96 of 1826503 documents. 80 are presented."
But I may be reading more into it than there is. Maybe they'll respond to my email.
Sara
RE: GAMZ
I was doing my DD on GAMZ and was pretty impressed until I noticed something on their website. It may seem trivial to some, but I noticed on the Management page that they listed a Kimberly Briggs as secretary. So why isn't her title Treasurer or at least Legal Administrator if that's the work she is doing! Too often I've seen companies take advantage of women by giving them a lowly title, paying them a lowly salary and giving them the work of a much higher position. I hope this isn't the case in this company. I wrote them an email expressing my concern.
http://www.gamecominc.com/Company_frame.htm
Kimberly Biggs, secretary
Kimberly Biggs, age 33, is secretary and treasurer of GameCom. Ms. Biggs graduated from Martin High School in Arlington, Texas in 1984. In 1989, she joined the Arlington law firm of Jones & Cannon, which provides legal services for GameCom, as legal administrator, a position which she holds to this date. As legal administrator for the firm, Ms. Biggs oversees all aspects of the firm's business operations, with particular emphasis upon the firm's accounting, billing, and payables.
yes, the line helps separate ad from message. Thanks. And you sure were quick on the suggestion to open a new window!
Sara : )
"My suggestion is to have the ad open a new window when clicked..."
I agree with the bird on this one...
Sara
Yes, very sad that our children can't reap the benefit of all the internet has to offer because of sick porn pushers.
Sara
SirVinny,
It was a good joke : )
"I will not let my nephews or nieces on the internet without supervision."
Unfortunately, that's the only fool proof way to protect them.
Sara
xxrayeyes,
Thanks : ) And thank you for all the great DD on this board.
Sara
Vector Medical Technologies
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/010405/flth004.html
Vector Medical Technologies, Inc. is a development stage biopharmaceutical technology company developing Met-enkephalin for the treatment of AIDS, as well as the research and development of a non-invasive transdermal delivery system for a wide variety of high-density molecular weight drugs such as Insulin, Collagen, Elastin and other large molecular weight compounds. Such technology, if developed, approved by the appropriate governmental agencies and then commercialized, could enable the non-invasive delivery of drugs currently administered by injection. Vector, through its collaboration and business relationships with various physicians, researchers, medical institutions and others, plans to develop, commercialize and market a variety of products for the transdermal delivery of macromolecule drugs, including Met-enkephalin
SirVinny (p.s.)
I hope you know I wasn't going off on you, but just getting a little carried away expressing my motherly concern about porn being available where kids might roam.
Besides... IMO stock boards are not the place for it even if it were all adult.
Sara
re GSTD DD
From the 8k on May 8,2001:
"On or about April 16, 2001, the Registrant, Gold Standard, Inc. ("Gold Standard") entered into a Letter of Intent (the "Letter") with Vector Medical Technologies, Inc. ("Vector"), a Delaware corporation with its principal place of business in Boca Raton, Florida, providing for the merger of Vector into the Registrant, in a "reverse merger." "
If they are about to reverse merge with Vector, shouldn't the DD focus then on Vector and not GoldStandard? Business summary would then be about biotech?
Do you know how many outstanding shares there are and what the float is?
Thanks.
Sara
SirVinny,
"Why do you refuse pornography while accepting ads from Merril L.? Seems to me that both are in the same industry....They're out to screw you."
Okay... a little chuckle on that one : ) But I hope it was completely a joke... and I'll tell you why... I have kids that I have to monitor very closely when they are on the internet. It's a shame the slime that are out there that will take advantage of kids. I watched one time when an older man tried to pick up on my 15 year old daughter in a teen chat room. She told him that he was too old for her, etc etc. I ended up grabbing the keyboard and giving him a big piece of my mind... I should have called the police. Anway, I feel very strongly about children not being exposed to pornographic material. I think it should be criminal the pornographic spam email that is sent to everyone since minors get it also. I go to great lengths to block my kids from that kind of trash.
Sara
Matt,
"I will accept ads from about anybody except pornography."
Glad to hear that. When Yahoo temporary was going to have pornographic material there was such an uproar they backed off. If they had not backed off, I would have stopped using their service.
Sara
"Anybody interested in a ad-free system for a small charge at your option?"
my vote is for: free!
Sara
John,
I'm planning to review a few prospects this weekend, so I'll give it a look.
Thanks for the info.
Sara
Nice... very unobtrusive. eom
Thanks for the clarification. eom
Arch,
Yes, GEMM would be a long term play which I've been holding since last fall. The short of the story is that they acquired new financing and partners to re-start a diamond mining operation in Brazil. The site was evaluated by DeBeers.
For more details visit their website which has a better overview and the latest management report under the news section.
http:\\www.juinamining.com
As with any penny, it is high risk, everyone should do their own DD.
Sara