they cant pay one, thats illegal, but what happens in reality is why i think the SEC is corrupt to the core.

thats close, an MM set prices to move shares for those buying and selling. they have no gain to move in a direction they chose, the supply and demand of shares decide which way the market will move. they make no money if they move the market and no one buys what they want to sell, or no one sells shares for someone they need to buy for. they make money solely on the spread between the 2. they are in pure competition with other MMs for this phenom, and they can lose BIG if they are not carefull. They are there long after the a player is gone. its very complicated world, but there can be manipulation or corruption when large players as you call come in. while someone wants to buy, they spread misinformation on the web and tv.

""Usually" a player retains the services of a specialist who moves the market in the direction they want it moved."

they are gaining credibility, those that dont see it, seem to be in denial for one reason or another.


Blessed are the poor in spirit,for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.Blessed are the meek,for they shall possess the earth.Blessed are the merciful,for they shall obtain mercy.
Blessed are the pure of heart,for they shall see God.

seems they are all avoiding one fact after another as the news comes in. this company is making it happen and working hard for the future.

I think its a matter of price is so far below $4 where many bought, some cant stand the fact that its now a bargain and they have more going for them then ever.

something brute-fake dont understand!

keep up the good work, for the company, for the shareholders, to rid any doubt or agenda by others.

"FORT LAUDERDALE, FL--(MARKET WIRE)--Oct 16, 2008 -- Sanswire Corp. (Other OTC:SNSR.PK - News) today announced that it has entered into an agreement with Global Telesat Corp. (GTC), a provider of satellite-based tracking and monitoring services and satellite-based airtime to government and commercial end users of Globalstar, Inc.'s (GSAT - News) global mobile satellite system, for further testing and planning for a lighter than air (LTA) unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) solution integrating technologies from all three of the companies.
The agreement provides GTC with an opportunity to invest in Sanswire and calls for Sanswire to study the integration of GTC's satellite simplex data transmission systems, called "appliqués," with Sanswire's LTA platforms to allow data communications in areas of the world not yet covered by Globalstar's gateway earth stations. In this role, the Sanswire LTA platforms would act as a surrogate Globalstar ground station."

I think you are very very confused, maybe! you not only dont speak for anyone here, you certainly dont have jet's agenda pegged.

I can hardly contain myself, but I will. It only makes sense this will get better and better here.

I agree, I think it will never go to 70 again, but I dont need it to go there in order to be comfortable with my investment here, just up to market levels and valuation, say somewhere around 5.

if the market fails further because of this action, government should come in and investigate the SEC, I think they are dirty anyhow. they pick on the small ones and only look at the big ones if something is exposed to public, sure sign of corruption.

"When volume increases and shares other than their own and in great quantities are in the order flow, we can see better price developments, less ties to the rise and fall of the DJIA, and the end of automated and manual patterns that profit on 1 and 2 penny spreads in the fractions of cents after dealing with the morning volatility and profit taking."

this was evident in the last couple days, especially yesterday when the bid and ask were both above the trading price for a while. it seems to indicate buying going on while other MMs are struggling with inventory. watch fractional price and oddball quantity orders, they are MM signals as well as indicator of their accumulation or manipulation.

volume sure has much to do with movement. I am wondering when it will pick up again, also unsure what economic news will make it happen. the big one is the holiday season coming, economy down or not, people will spend.

the procedure should be to get his shares at the price he put in. I would consider another broker if it happens a couple more times. but then again, FRE, and many other stock prices in the market, are not very stable these days. its hard to follow the MMs. I think there is also a limit to decimal places on orders by common folk like us, though they should have said something



Blessed are the poor in spirit,for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.Blessed are the meek,for they shall possess the earth.Blessed are the merciful,for they shall obtain mercy.
Blessed are the pure of heart,for they shall see God.

anytime you see a fractional buy, its a big boy, not available for little fish like use.

I agree, the past is a portal to the future. everyone learns from the past. But what most unbias investors would also understand is that this is the type of company that can make you a millionaire. also understand that all scams go under especially when SEC is on them, this is not the case here, and I believe its for very good reason coming soon.

I think we will see movement coming soon.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081016/meltdown_paulson.html

I think he will leave FRE alone. He was in a panic initially.

I am surprised the price has not started going up yet. Its real news based on real results, its only a matter of time before all doubt is gone and price goes up.

the market, and all its stocks, were fine before they messed with FRE/FNM. Lehman would be a setback only for other wall street companies like the following companies. are they not on Paulsons give all the money to those who dont need it list. AMAZING they are not taking out of their own pockets to float the company. its a joke.
1. Larry Ellison, Oracle Corp., $84.6 million
2. John Thain, Merrill Lynch & Co., $83.1 million
3. Leslie Moonves, CBS Corp., $67.6 million
4. Richard Adkerson, Freeport-McMoran Copper & Gold Inc., $65.3 million
5. Bob Simpson, XTO Energy Inc., $56.6 million
6. Lloyd Blankfein, Goldman Sachs Group Inc., $53.9 million
7. Kenneth Chenault, American Express Co., $51.7 million
8. Eugene Isenberg, Nabors Industries Ltd., $44.6 million
9. John Mack, Morgan Stanley, $41.7 million
10. Glenn Murphy, Gap Inc., $39.1 million


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/21...

nothing you have said is new, what's your point!
or is there just a smidge of anger or other emotion that you need to release on this board.

anywhere between here and there is open field. I would like to see it go there, most likely wont even be close even with another 600m contract in sight. just feeling lucky after yesterdays comeback in overall market.

pretty amazing the few coming out and saying where the bottom is now, i think the strenght in the market caught them by surprise and left them out. there are many who were on the sidelines that are now in the market(many 401K fund buying started last friday), and a few who wish they did. now if only sanswire would start putting the pedal to the metal with signed contracts it could be a super value, under $100 maybe. this company would ride out dips in market if business ramped up now.


Blessed are the poor in spirit,for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.Blessed are the meek,for they shall possess the earth.Blessed are the merciful,for they shall obtain mercy.
Blessed are the pure of heart,for they shall see God.

just relax, its coming.

nothing about FRE, but he did say he would not be surprised if it goes to the 6k range in the coming weeks depending on many upcoming factors and bank events. then he said buy.

"I'm getting this feeling that we are setting up for one hell of a DOW rally.... maybe something like +1000 points. I'm not sure when but I feel it brewing.
edit... DOW at 9350 at the time of this statement"
you did not say in a couple days, and you did not call for a swing, and the 1000 point gain did not happen. your not even close and you are taking credit for something you did not say.
any bozo can say it may go up big after several thousand down in one week, please dont offend intelligent people.

"Why does this conversation between Mide and I concern you?"
I can say the same to you for many posts you made about conversations. this is a public board you know as well as anyone.

"The process of turning our company into a viable, compliant enterprise continues as we finally release fiscal 2007 results. This process is fueled by many factors, but none as important as the desire to build and sell the most advanced airships in the world, and the unwavering support of a very patient, loyal shareholder base. We look forward to providing results that demonstrate our commitments to our business plan and to all Sanswire stakeholders."

I put the whole thing in there. it puts his mission into perspective along with his motivation.

more like they are collecting shares for later

this is as close as it gets right now

http://www.valence.com/assets/pdf/vlnc_epoch_data_sheet.pdf

valence heading up, not sure why, maybe end of Q stuff but its positive anyhow. lets see where it goes from here.

it is out there in this plan, huge risk if anything happens on this language. good long term reward in not.

I would not be surprised to see it tank a couple more times first. but who am I, Im only in partially, I see ops coming in the overall market soon.

correct, seems like some like to make the bridge to nowhere a big deal when it didnt have to do with Palin in the first place, while we spend billions a month in a place where we should have been out of at least 2 years ago. McCain seems to be a war monger also. dont get me wrong, when it comes to national security Im all for it, not personal agenda that gets you through 2 terms in office.

word of caution, possibly, there will be thousands of those that get holding the bag for months, posting to each other for solice and comfort.

I am amazed that you could do it when there was so little traded at that actual price other than MMs grabing shares from stops. it went back up to be sold at much higher prices in seconds, amazing.
I do note that many who want others to buy are not really saying how volitile the next few days will be. big money gainers are only true if there were big money losers when it goes up and down in same range.

still does not explain today, very disturbing that Cramer says it will go back to ones within a short period within a day. he looked very suspicious today when he was talking, like he was giving his buddies the signal to sell it down. he should be investigated.

I think at this point you can get in lower than todays open.

for some silly reason I see FRE over taking AIG. if not, I also think if AIG continues up, so will FRE considering Freddie is in very good shape considering the panic going on.

thanks for keeping such a close eye on this for us shareholders, much appreciate it.

its open until $5, little resistance and maybe a few bumps. just a matter of how fast money comes in.