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well said plugger, i too got burned by the dogg. i did put a little back in to try and recoop. it will be fun to watch at least. i have a bad habit of always giving people another chance. i do feel a lot better that the giavoni's are out. i was told by shiltgen, that calvin ross is really ill. that is the reason that he is exiting. i am hoping to get a little back here. i was really excited about the product in the hayday, but i am going to try not to fall in love again.
here is an example for you. i work at fedex and they have boxes of airbills printed up for shippers to use. each airbill is exactly 11 numbers higher that the last one. they are not in sequential order, but rather they skip 10 numbers. i am not sure why they do that. i might be for some security reason.
out of those 2.1b shares outstanding, how many are available? are they holding the magority? they could always retired a big portion of those and before they hit the market and then this could have a chance. otherwise a r/s looks iminent. that really sucks.
mike, i don't understand it. they have a new campaign for advertising and a new ceo, and the pps has been tanking. what the heck is going on? aren't these things suppose to be possitive. how low will is this thing going to go before it starts going up again. it's starting to look like they are getting ready to r/split this son of a gun. that would kill the stock. i say that the pr said they weren't looking to do that, but can we believe them. how else are they going to get the share count down to get value to the company?
hi guys, i have been in this stock for quite a while. the last management were robbers. they ripped off a lot of people including me for tens of thousands. they should be jailed. calvin ross was in that bunch of people along with the giavonis. they are criminals. personally i don't know how they can live with themselves. they waited till a lot of people were in real deep and then they diluted the heck out it to the tune of a 1 for 100 split. virtually making our investment worthless. how do you think us longs should feel. with calvin still at the helm, how long do you think he will let this go before he does another one? they should absolutely outlaw reverse splits. it is used to lower share count, but instead of killing the stock, they should be forced to do a buy back. i did buy a little bit back at the .0004 mark and i don't know how long i will hang on, but i tell you what, i am still very skeptical to say the least. it's hard to trust them.
puttzy3, i don't know how much money you can make at that, but he could take his mind off his failures. maybe he was good at the beginning, but he didn't finish well. i didn't get the feeling he was a crook, he was just not ceo material. you've got to stay on top of your game when you are running a company.
01WS, dont' let these bashers get you down. they are childish. everything right now is possitive, except mabye to many shares. but the advertising, new ceo, new headquarters. why would they put money into all of that if it were a scam? i don't know what a good share count would be right now, but 1.2b is a little high isn't it. they said they doing a R/S would not be in the best interest of the company or the shareholders. i don't know if that means down the road they are planning one or not. everything and i mean EVERYTHING else it possitive.
a lot of times they are told to resign. that way, it looks better for them. he could have been told that he wasn't doing a good enough job and maybe he took the hint along with all the critisizm and just hung it up. why would he just resign? it's not like he has got better things to do.
dead, i still have 1 $24,000 unopened energy shot. what do you think i can get for it? do they even sell them anymore? i did put a little back into this reluctantly to watch something else besides spng and zvtk. they were getting to be a soap opera. there is a little excitement here at least. i hope that it turns into something. i got a lot of making up to do.
weasel and dead, it is good to see some of the old folks here. all we need is flick and we can get the party started. from what i was told by shiltgen, CR has some bad health problems. i don't think he is very active, but not sure. so far i have doubled my tiny re-investment, but i have an incredble way to go.
dead, i'm glad to see you here. i did pick up some a couple of days ago. just a little play. i did read the release today. it sounds promising. i'm just a little shell shocked after the last beating.
there is suppose to be a commercial for the bulb @ 11.47 on the weather channel. is there anyone that will have a chance to watch for it?
scooter, that is a great fill. he will be very happy soon. once the informecials start airing, this will go up with exposure. there still are a couple of childish bashers, but they will be hushed. the pps will speak for itself. i'm happy for those that were able to pick up some more cheapies. good luck to all and God bless.
scooter, that is a great fill. he will be very happy soon. once the informecials start airing, this will go up with exposure. there still are a couple of childish bashers, but they will be hushed. the pps will speak for itself. i'm happy for those that were able to pick up some more cheapies. good luck to all and God bless.
hump, the q stated profits from basically only three days of sales so there isn't much to bank on. most of the longs are gone or very quiet right now. most of us longs are down quite a bit and really frustrated. KOP has never had anything good to say about this company. and a lot of the others here are pretty new. they don't trust adam. he needs to let us know what is going on.
z-man, has anybody heard about where the products are in stores right now? that's what i am worried about. i want to know the hfbg still is selling products. the pr you talk about must have meat to it and not just a bunch of fluff.
what kind of pr are you guys thinking that they will put out? i use to hear about sightings of A/D being found in stores and such. do you think the pr will just talk about the new management and that is it? i don't know if they even make product anymore. nobody talks about it.
M I T, didn't you just put all your marbles in the middle. LOL...i know you really want to see the Q tomorrow. maybe we can rejoice together. i'm glad to see your siri went well for you. i got a buddy that got into that one @ .53 he was on vacation last week, but he will come home a happy man. let's hope for tomorrow. come on, where's you cheerleading pom poms?
well, it seems that tomorrow is do or die day. we can pray or keep our fingers crossed. i'm due for 1 to hit. lets get a little upward movement tomorrow what do yo say. that would be refreshing.
do they have all day to file (post market) or do they have to file during market hours?
maxine, i hope that you are right. right after i bought it, it went to .016 and then started the slide. i could have doubled but i didn't know enough about the stock. i sure didn't want to miss the bus either. i was in spng for quite a while. boy, did the management screw up that company. i hope that that is not the case here. i would really like one of these pennies to do something except lose money and then reverse split the stock holder right out of the picture. spng even threatened to r/s. if the a/s is the 1.2b like some say it is, do you think that they might do that here? it sure kills a stock. in evey case i know of, they r/s and then the price goes right back to the price it was at before the r/s within weeks. making the investment worthless. for once i don't want a tax write-off.
bigdog, the only good thing about the wal-marts and sams club is the exposure. a lot of people have these in their houses. then when they have friends and family over, the word-of-mouth sales would really elevate the sales. the only concern i have is, that can they get enough bulbs? they would need a lot more than 1 40ft container. they would need 1 of those a day to suppy all the stores nation wide. i just think that it is to much to bite off right now.
it would be great exposure, however, do you think that they could get enough bulbs in the states to cover all the different directions that they want to go into?
dr33, from what i hear, wal-mart makes you sell your product so cheap, that the profit margin is very small. it is good exposure but i don't know that zvtk can get enough in the stores to make it profitable. stores that don't make you give away your products are a better bet. walgreens, targets. kmarts, and a host of others.
fla, why did zvtk not patent the bulb? were there a lot of different ones out there? i would think that a big company would really get a hold of these to corner the market on these types of things. the average consumer would probably buy a GE bulb before a no-name. it doesn't make sense that the originator of these i-bulbs wouldn't try to patent them before the market is flooded with all kinds of them. i take it these are manufactured overseas for all the companies wholesaling them. other then the zvtk bulb being quieter, what make ours special over all the others?
MM, that is a great idea. i have heard of people putting by thier litter boxes as well. i been thinking that they could use them in the cottages that we go to. most resorts allow people to smoke in the cottage (poker games) and such. for me, my brother and another buddy play endless cribbage for a quarter a hole (double on a skunk). they smoke all the time. then i light up an occasional backwoods cigar. those bulbs would clean the air of smoke and keep the odor down. a lot of the cabins in northern min allow smoking the cabins.
everyone gone. it's a quiet night. i'm stuck working. i hope that something exciting happens this week that is possitive for a change.
sorry flyersfan, i meant to say anthony. got the wrong name in there. hoping for big moves maybe starting tomorrow, but for sure next week.
hey guys,
i don't know what big deal adam is going to make on this stock, but he has succesfully run 2 others. what some people keep forgetting is that zvtk didn't have to go to the otcb. they went there on thier own, knowing that they would be more scrutinized. i believe that they are on the up and ups. i don't know why they are so silent, but i still have there trust. things are lining up. i just hope that we aren't going to be dissapointed.
cm, i have been investing in pennies for about 10 years. i have had very bad luck so far, they certainly are tough to make money on. you could flip all day if you didn't have anything else to do, but i work 3 jobs and i can't spend that much time on the computer. i got into spng and could have made some money. right about the time i was considering selling, it hit the greys and i finally got out when i saw zvtk. i'm glad i did. this one looks a lot better. i'm just waiting for the lift off.
when is this thing going to .20? i want to take my family on a nice vacation. lol....also my wife wants a newer vehicle. while i'm at it, i want to get a cabin on a lake. when oh when?
any guess as to what it will open at in the a.m.? i think it will ride to .007 before the profit takers start sliding it back to the .005's. God, i hope i'm wrong. it would be nice to go to the .008's or .009's before the slide. anyway it should be an interesting day.
i was out for a while. what news did we get? is it worth a sticky?
it's going to be a long weekend. i'm curious to see what is going on here? i have a strong feeling that the dow will be sliding quite a bit in the next months. there is nothing to support it being over 8500. i hope we can climb back to pennyland and beyond. i don't see any fraudulent activities here, and so i don't know why it is under the .008 mark. there is nothing but good things on the horizon. anybody? beuler?
to bad i can't find any funds to buy more. i would buy more. it seems the mm's are lowering this for a reason. i wish i could load up.
honestly folks, come on. why would a company upgrade to the otcb from the pinks when they didn't have to? they are held more accountable now. give this stock a chance. i totally believe we are heading in the right direction. it may take a little time, but we will get there. it will make money and we will be profit takers. how much? who knows, but we will make some money if you have patients. we don't need to be smacking each other around.
easy DAW easy now......we just got to get rid of the people that are happy making 100 dollars profit. obviously that have no idea what they are into. they won't be able to buy back in under a penny any more.
jmd, that is a lot better than 5. thanks when do you think this will move north again over a penny?
is the real issue about a 5 billion A/S if that is even true?
i have had this stock for a little while. i wasn't one of the lucky ones to get in at .0026 but i got in a little lower than it is right now. it had a little run up and then back down to the .007's. i truly believe that this will go up, but with all the positive publicity, why is this stock going down? it just doesn't make sence. even if there was M/M manipulation going on, why would they want the price to go dowm? wouldn't they want it to go up so they could sell what they bought for a profit?