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I'm new here, Spring, but I HAD to say, THAT almost made me wet my pants...........:) Thanks,....I needed a laugh.
Stop yelling Willie......Please......
WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who said what? I'm on the edge of my chair..........
Dear LORD on Good Friday.....a few missing reciepts and you issue a P/R ???? when Fan rarely issues P/Rs ???? I think it might be more than a few reciepts missing......
OK.........now THAT'S interesting...........tho from Olsen, who knows?????
Speaking of ready to kill him.........I wish Olsen MUCH worse than death......I wish him "A LONG AND INTERESTING LIFE"......an old Chinese curse.......perhaps Mr. Fan is just that.......fun to think about, NO?
Understood. What I ment was that perhaps, other than un-paid vendors and employees, maybe there ARE no lein holders....in other words, perhaps ALL the $ came from "investors", who got stock, therefore can't "call" their loans.....or people who made note loans with no call provission.....YIKES !!!!
I wonder if the "lenders" might have all been investors, so they can't "call" the loans.......????? I have no way of knowing, but it makes sense to me that way........thoughts?
Thanks.......now, I do understand..........I'm usually a very conservative investor.......(unless compaired to my mother's investing) Didn't I pick an INTERESTING first pink? YIKES!!!
Good luck with THAT, Surfin............:).........off to dinner, back on later......
NAME me a start up with free cash flow???????
It's called hope........or wishful thinking.....if you like.....but people DO invest that way....I'm willing to bet that MANY people here have hope for QTN
Maybe I'm stump-stupid, Fire, but it seems to me that the more info you have before you invest, the better...........generally speaking.
I stand corrected........about the change of directors..You were right. BUT, if you own (or control) 53% of outstanding shares, MY vote is kind of moot, dont' you think?
I thought they might be authorized, but not issued........
Why, Thank you........"we're doing all we can"... as Nancy Reagan had Ronnie say..........
OH, ZERO.......share holders have NO right to vote on the transfer of shares between 2 parties......
could the other 25BB be unissued.........or treasury stock? Treasury stock has to be issued shares, NO? I'm not really sure.
YOU forget the 3rd, and most common method.......investing because you see POTENTIAL......like in a start-up.
The difference is, that Olsen was ALWAYS putting out Sunshine..........Fan has said, It's ugly........REALLY ugly, but this is what we KNOW, here is what we are trying to find out.........and Fan gave us numbers we have been asking for......at least SOME of them.
GGGRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
and just WHAT would you give Fan & Co. for their 53% ?
WELL, maybe not STRAIGHT............:).....no problem, I sometimes over-react too.........I get NUTS when some people just refuse to use logic......and there are so MANY on here.
Seems like the financials ARE important to make an informed decission..........NO?
MY math says $35MM.........?
Reddog65.......no one ever went broke UNDER-estimating the viewing public.......
Try as they may........Fan and..or anyone else, for that matter, will be lucky to know what SHOULD be in the books 3 months from now.........MUCH LESS have audited financials......... These people are trying to run a network, on a shoe-string staff..( a full-time PLUS job in itself).....AND do something else.....fix the Co., or loot the Co. depending on where you stand. THINK they are going to take time to talk to people who own a tiny share of what many of you think is a scam/shell???? If you OWN it, be glad they ARE to busy to send you meaningless PRs.....THEY are WORKING.
DO you think they even know we are here........or care if they do?
OR
They're not...........you choose.
but VDC won't be a big source of revenue for QTN
I agree.........
LORD, I HATE to agree with ZERO, but...........
Cable and satelite are the only roads to profit......how many here will kep VDC if QTN is available on your cable or satelite???? The GOOD thing about VDC is carriage.....without carriage, you got nothing........WITH it you have a chance.
Fan, Hinnant and Hagan "MAN" the hoses, while Olsen slips out the back.............OUT the back for a change........get it.....OUT the back......OK.....Burbon.......sorry.......:)
STILL, it WAS kind of clever, no?
LORD.........GET ugly....HOW ugly can it become.....common share holders with torches marching to the studio in Burbank..?????
THAT might be the publicity QTN NEEDS........ "GAY and STRAIGHT UNITE" ....................STOCK HOLDERS BURN QUEER NETWORK..........with Management inside...........
I can SEE the headlines in Forbes, Barrons and the Wall Street Journal.............and USA TODAY, of course.......
Like waiting-for-the-second-coming long...........
I'm not ready to paint Fan with the same brush as Olsen..., YET.......but I agree that the commons may have to wait a LONG time for a return.....even if Fan can clean up this cluster-f**k that Olsen left behind
investors need numbers...audited numbers.....THEN we'll know if fried or not...........
I agree that the common MAY be fried, but who's to know?........YET
COOL..........you're here........!!!!!!!!!!!!
LORD, I can write a lot, can't I???? OK, I was bored.......
pork-q-pine wrote a GREAT "baffle-them-with-bullshit" post and hooked me like a big old carp.........I could't resist a reply.
Sorry if I was less than entertaining....hope I was informative, at least....
Blame ProfitHunter0 (ZERO to me) .....as I said before, he makes me want to drink.....Bless him....so all this rant is due to him......well, and Burbon, THE American drink......:)
Pork.........In depth first post....interesting job...BUT
A) QBID said they could not release an audit YET, because they need more info. Info which seems to have been hidden by previous Mgt....Frank Olsen.
B) QTN CAN'T have SEC registered shares, because they are a wholly {spelled right this time....:)} owned subsidiary of TMM(ticker. QBID).
C) As a subsidiary of QBID, QBID/TMM stock holders DO own QTN, nominally, tho they may NOT vote on its day-to-day opperations or, perhaps, even it's eventual sale, if someone ownes 53% of the outstanding shares in QBID/TMM...as has been reported.
D) This means that TMM share holders own 100% of QTN, nominally, for whatever it's worth.
E) NO Reg D offering.....Where did you get THAT???????
ALTHOUGH, if they did make a public offering of QTN shares, the proceeds would go to TMM because they own QTN......hence $ to the QBID/TMM share holders.
----DAMN this is fun........I was getting tired before.----
F) WHO told you that QTN was "acquired" by anyone? If you mean Mr. Fan....... becoming CEO is NOT the same as "acquiring" (implying ownership of) a company.
G) WHAT "supervoting rights"? Are any supervoting shares, like those of the Ford family, in Ford Motor Company, registered? NO! Then they don't exist.
Please give me your thoughts.......:)
THAT could happen......lots of bad things can happen..........Lots of GOOD things can happen.
ANOTHER references a pending or past law suit. what is that?
Bankruptcy is possible......so is restitution and/or jail for Olsen, clearing the way for QTN...........(no typo this time, just for you, Zero).
jack e. jett may be elected President of the network, too. Only time will tell.......but Please be open to logic, even if you don't agree with it.