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Check again. It's the status at the time of issuance. Nice DD you do broski.
Until later when Calvin and Giovanni show back up again.
Great idea.... hope everyone sees this:
As of: December 31, 2010 <------ THIS
Preferred Stock: 20,000,000
Preferred Issued: NONE
Common Stock Authorized: 280,000,000
Common Stock Outstanding: 114,881,913
Public Float: 59,139,664 <------ THAT
Number of Shareholders of Record: 464
AND NOW READ THIS
Source: Cooper Holding Corp Friday June 10, 2011<-- THIS
COTTAGE GROVE, TN--(OTCMarkets - 06/10/11) - Cooper Holding Corp (OTC Pink Limited: SHAR), announces they have mutually agreed to terminate their previously announced contract with The Wall Street Voice and as of today date, The Wall Street Voice is immediately returning their 7.5 million share certificate to the company’s transfer agent.
CEO Dan Cooper also confirmed the following, "The Company has one class of capital stock consisting of 280,000,000 shares of Authorized Common Stock. 124,685,913 shares of Common Stock are issued and outstanding with a Public Float of 59,139,664(<---THAT) shares. All 144 Restricted Shares are subject to a minimum 1 year holding period in accordance with 144 rules.”
So to sum it up:
12/31/2010 Float 59,139,664
06/10/2011 Float 59,139,667
All 144 Restricted shares are 1 yr holding period. Capice?
More bad information!
6 months IF THE COMPANY IS FULLY REPORTING.
12 months IF NOT.
12 month restriction period here, sorry to say.
Are you trying NOT to catch on to what is going on? Seriously?
1. Cert for 7.5m shares is handed over to be cleared to be deposited.
2. Shorter comes into the stock at the same time that Alpine gets the cert.
3. Cert is now recalled back to the company... SHARES ARE NO LONGER ABLE TO BE USED FOR A SHORTER.
4. Float is the same as it's been since DECEMBER. 59,000,000 shares.
5. You tell me what comes next.
They borrowed the shares that were recalled on FRIDAY. They're dead meat!
SHORTY BEWARE!!!
Those shares you *THOUGHT* you were able to use to short this lil beauty are not there! Thank you for enhancing the upcoming parabolic continuum. The 59 M share float is UNCHANGED SINCE DECEMBER!!!!
There are several exceptions to the rules that market makers must accurately display order sizes.
One being that they do not need to disclose if their order is not relevant, meaning that it does not change the scope of the current trading. On a stock with a bid ask of .03 x .031, a sales order for $1.00 is not relevant and the size would not need to be disclosed.
There are many other examples of these rules, most of which will not apply, other than the Non-Held order rule.
In the case of a shorter, the MM is "borrowing" shares, meaning they are not held in their posession, to sell and will pay them back at a later date.
There is no exact way to figure out which rule the MM is using to avoid having to show the size of the order, but most of the exceptions will not be pertinant.
Baaa Baaa
Yessir mine are safely nestled away too. A LOT of people I know got more yesterday and today, and those are also not readily for sale.
I have a feeling that this next week to ten days was gonna be big regardless, but with this bozo picking the wrong stock to short.. this will be a very fun ride.
*HUGS* To the Contrarian Indicator! I'm gonna people mark him!
Darn straight Stevo. I'd love to see the look on his face when he gets the margin call and has to repay the shares.
What was discredited was using the WARRANTS for collateral vs a short position. And no, you didn't explain that properly because even I did not understand what you were talking about.
What is different was that yesterday MAXM was coming in with a Non-Held Order of significant size, and then today, the company announced that 7.5m shares were being returned before they could be deposited, and that the share structure was the same as it was back in April.
If you trace the float back, its been 59m for even longer.
With that said... what was MAXM doing? They thought they were shorting but in reality they were Naked Shorting, and will get called on it VERY SOON.
I notice that no one seems willing to ask the tough questions. So, here goes.
Why is 0 experience listed in the PR of the 14 years of experience to draw from (according to the PR) to legitimize Jessica A. Gutierrez in the financial world? Did they learn their lesson with Thomas W. Love III when they added so much false experience?
Why is Jessica A. Gutierrez working as Larry Johnson's publicist if she's got 14 years experience in the financial world (according to the PR)?
Why is Jessica A. Gutierrez living in the same city as Giovanni Luciano who just happens to be joined at the hip with Larry Johnson and Calvin Ross?
Why is the company saying the BIBs will be 1.5 gallons and projectsmith has been passing around a picture of a 3 gallon BIB and saying it's HFBGs?
They said assisting the management team would be "seasoned beverage consultants" but you notice they didn't mention who they were. I am willing to be they are Calvin Ross and Giovanni Luciano since that is how they always referred to themselves as seasoned in beverage industry experience.
Why are there so many forward looking statements in the last two PR's and so little detail to give any statement legitimacy? I thought only done deals were PR'd? Another lie?
I also noticed plenty of mistakes in the PR. Did Jessica write that PR?
There are exceptions... and one of them is for "NON HELD ORDERS" meaning that the MM is selling for someone who is NOT in posession of the shares.... aka SHORTERS.
I do not believe in shorters in pinkys any more than Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.
Well, I didn't UNTIL YESTERDAY.
These new rules are such a great thing! We can see bid/ask sizes and if the MM is selling a Non Held Order now we know!
Wait till MAXM finds out that there are no shares for them to sell and they have to buy them back! This is gonna be HELLA FUN!
For your sake, and for all the poor SHEEP you're running into a meatgrinder here, I hope to God you're right.
Sorry to jump into the middle of this, I know a lot of you have money tied up here and that sucks. I've been involved in one or two stocks that were halted and its not a good feeling, especially since it brings in the "told you so crowd."
Hardwood, I completely agree with you in the sense that a trading halt is too difficult for most companies to recover from.
The SEC should have other ways of protecting the public without making it so incredibly difficult for the halted company to return.
With that said, if the company was intentionally falsifying information, then their assets should be redistributed back to shareholders, and the principles should forfeit all of their posessions as they have defrauded individuals.
The SEC feels the need to shut down a company like this, but yet they allow Washington Mutual bank stock to trade for years after the company went bankrupt and was purchased in whole by another company.
This "protection" is not protection it's enforcement. And a lot of perfectly good people get damaged since there it is virtually impossible for a company to recover from a Halt.
Actually it can. For those who buy at .0002 it could go to .0001... so a 50% loss is possible.
AND the way the SEC is being fussy on companies who give no information or intentionally spread wrong information there could be a halt. If that happens its a total loss.
There's nothing in the street
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are out-phased, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Is now parting on the right
And their beards have all grown longer overnight
I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
Meet the new HFBG boss
Same as the old HFBG boss
Yay SHAR! Boooooo Bruins! Gooooo Canucks!
(Hahahaha Lightning fan here...)
There were a couple "exceptions" to that rule, and its possible that MAXM is exploiting one of those exceptions.
Or they could be outright violating the rule...
Nevada is EASY to find documentation on material changes within the company, such as SHARE INCREASES, Executive team changes. All online and free.
Deleware is much harder, in some cases you have to call in and actually pay to find the info.
Agreed! And once we prove that Calvin and Giovanni are IN FACT STILL RUNNING HFBG that will be the NAIL IN THE COFFIN THAT SHUTS THIS POS DOWN FOREVER!
hfbg... may as well burn your money.
100% INCORRECT! 8-K FILINGS ARE STILL ACCEPTED AND EXPECTED FROM ALL COMPANIES WITH MATERIAL CHANGES!!!!
From JUNE 8TH, 2011!!
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingPdf?FilingID=7984146
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingPdf?FilingID=7911333
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingPdf?FilingID=7733871
8-K from a company with a CAVEAT EMPTOR SIGN!!!!!
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingPdf?FilingID=7873369
Want more proof? This took me all of 5 minutes to find.
You'll know for sure when another 7 BILLION SHARES ARE DILUTED ON YOUR BACKS now won't you?
The part where they're gone... AGAIN... without an 8-K filing to prove it.
Facts like this????
If you say that enough, you will believe it. Just like you believe EVERYTHING that has come out of their fabrication I mean PR department.
100% agreed. Shorts are really not much of a problem in any pinksheets stock.
In the United States or for any US Citizen, shorting requires $1 Margin PER SHARE TO BE SHORTED. So if a person wanted to short this stock for 1,000,000 shares, they'd need $1 m USD in their account to cover it.
Very much not a friendly proposition.
Shorters are one of the great myths in Pinky land. It's like Chris Angel's magic tricks.. not really magic but distraction. Watch the left hand while the RIGHT hand is the one thats doing the task.
Shorting is like that here. 99% distraction, 1% maybe reality. Generally is used to "explain" why a stock is suddenly going down, when those diluting do not want it known.
Calvin and Giovanni ARE the new team. Those you think are the team are Ventriloquist dummies.
Innocent Until Proven Guilty, not the other way around. Give em a chance to make the nessesary corrections and propel HFBG Upwards on its rightfull journey.
They've already been proven guilty! There's no evidence other than someone "saying" that those two are out, and quite frankly they've recused themselves several times in the past.
They've invented people to be President; they've lied in PR's about distribution and sales; they've issed BILLIONS of shares to profit personally from; they've stated that the 2nd Tea production Run was PAID FOR BACK IN AUGUST, but now they say it was JUST paid for.
They have a history of lies and deceipt, and quite honestly I believe that they are still part of HFBG, but using someone else's facade.
So no... in this case, Guilty till proven Innocent. IF the new regime makes the appropriate corrections INCLUDING FREEZING SHARE STRUCTURE (because I can guarantee you they will need money) no way this is more than an outright scam.
The only "Rising Wedge" formation here is from his shorts being yanked up his (CENSORED) as he's bein raised up the flagpole.
*I know this gets deleted, hope others find it funny first :)*
You've misread the chart! It's an Appendale Rise with a Gemini Twist, which results in a spectacular production of Lil Rascals!
If you predict the end of the world every day, eventually you will be right....
At the end of the day CALVIN and GIOVANNI are the ones that dumped BILLIONS of shares onto the holders here.
They were unable to create a viable company with revenues or products even though they were given 4+ years to do it.
No daytrading group can POSSIBLY ruin a stock price like endless, massive dilution can. Remember that these 504 companies were handed shares to dump at costs waaaaaaaaaaay below the bid!
Do you think they had a conscience when they sold? HELL NO. Did Calvin and Giovanni call them again to sell them more? HELL YES.
And now suspicion is that they have not really left. I won't believe it till I see them buried.
Betcha the next SEC filing will....
Here is why Calvin and Giovanni are NOT gone! Calvin Ross and Giovanni Luciano are connected to JAG and thus still in control of HFBG. They are connected thru longtime friend and the 3rd member of the Three Amigos, Larry Johnson, who was named a member of JAG. Wherever you see Larry Johnson's name with regard to HFBG/JAG just replace it with Calvin Ross and Giovanni Luciano as the three have been together at this HFBG thing for a number of years. All the decisions will still come from the two everyone has been convinced are "gone," and it will just appear as if it's coming from Larry Johnson.
504 deals will still be set up the way they always have been. The only thing that has changed is a few name changes to add a little confusion and to give it a "new look" so the hype can attract new investors.
Larry Johnson's name will be on paperwork because the sheep love to see his name, but he will merely be the mouthpiece for Ross and Luciano. They still have full control of HFBG through Larry Johnson. This is tantamount to giving your wife the preferred shares and saying you are gone when everyone knows she'll vote as you tell her to vote.
http://sec.gov/litigation/suspensions/2011/34-64612-o.pdf
They absolutely DO accept and even REQUIRE 8-K filings from Pinsheets companies! HFBG should be required to file as well.
ZLUS for example.
Is there an 8-K filing to prove that? No? Then as far as their relationship with HFBG goes, I believe they are still pushing the buttons.
EXACTLY his point! Calvin was probably stretching the truth of how long the tea was good for then. 1 year was PROBABLY more like 3 - 6 months, which means that whomever buys this stuff now it's already expired.