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That's actionable intel (as A1 would say), and I'm acting immediately.
Thanks for the suggestion.
-Nic
What makes you say that Van?
Okay TIVU. Keep talkin' to me baby. I'm listening.
What is going on here?
You might look around the room, presently, and notice that there are a whole lot of them in on it. Most of these guys posting (i.e. you know, the little one line blurbs, "thin from here"! "ready to run"!) are all part of a little pump clique.
They'll be gone as soon as they realize TIVU's idiosyncracies. I'm long TIVU, but I've been around 'long' enough to know that we are going to need to be around for quite a bit longer.
There is a core group of longs here, myself included. And a lot (I won't say 'all') of the others are part of a clique. They just had their way with F**D not long ago.
My amateur opinion is pretty meaningless here, but given the way it has behaved since the initial run, I just can't see it dying like that.
So I'll take .20 !!! =)
Of course so much hangs on the content of the call.
If I hear "Memorandum of Understanding," though, I'm gonna hang up... and then throw up.
Oh my good Lord I think I just figured out what the FBCD conference call is going to be about...
TOO BAD I'M BANNED FROM THE FBCD BOARD!!
Thoughts on where FCBD could go following Wednesday?
Could it see .20? .25? Higher?
What sort of news would it take to generate a major run?
I am hoping for something great... but still have visions of that awful TIVU CC in my head.
So what sort of potential do you think it has short-term?
Van has expressed confidence about .08 again, which is great news if you were smart enough to play it right the first time.
But with plays like BCCI happening at the same time as that initial run, combined with the onslaught of incredibly LEGIT news from FBCD, I (and I'm sure many others) thought we were about to run HARD and LONG.
I have no basis on which to gauge these things, and one could argue that there are certain sorts of plays where 'the chart' simply won't suffice as an indicator... I was hoping for .30's
Help me out here...
I'm miffed on FBCD.
All of the faithful on the iHub board think that some sort of cosmic run is going to take place upon the conference call a week from today.
But isn't one of the general rules or trading supposed to be something to the effect of assume the price already reflects any news/rumor you've heard?
Are they setting themselves up for disappointment? Am I?
I don't get it. This company is one of the most legit I've come across in pennyland, with incredible partnerships/licenses, etc... yet it has to muster every ounce of energy it has just to crack .05
I just heard that the CEO thinks 8 million in revenue in the coming year is "very conservative." I would take that as hot air, by default, but the CEO has already developed a reputation for reliability/results. Sooo...?
Aces,
Thanks for the message. Yup it's true. And yup, it's inexplicable. Er, well, it's explicable. But the explanation/explication would require some pretty robust psychology.
Thanks for the message dude.
PS - messaging you here because I don't have PM's. My apologies to whoever's board this is.
wow. this stock is dead in the water.
you ignore the possibility that the leak happened unbeknownst to LC, why?
(I don't really prefer any one of these hypotheses over any other. I'm just asking why you're ignoring this possibility.)
Why? Because the price went down? Nice conspiracy theory.
Prices sometimes go down dude.
What am I missing here?
What about the last 26 minutes suggests "game" playing to you?
I guess I do not understand what it is that you are saying you do not understand.
What is inconsistent about the rumor being out there, on the one hand, and LeClerc being unaware that it had been leaked, on the other?
It seems like that is what you're saying is incongruous. I don't understand.
Thanks everyone for continually catering to my perhaps repetitive questions. Always just barely holding on to the thread of convo among the savvy investors here. I appreciate the help.
This sure is purgatorial isn't it?
That being said, I'd so much rather be in limbo with company like this than that which I find on other boards.
The limbo-like situation here has me making maneuvers that I'm not too proud of. Sold off 225K of my TIVU the other day just so I could take another position (that toy collectible play going on right now) on which I'm hoping to make some of my losses back.
So am I somewhat right in thinking that the tension that we are potentially caught in is this: that we are, on the one hand, hoping that revenue commencement will affect the pps in such a way as to minimize/ameliorate the toxicity/dilution, and yet, on the other hand, we are worried that the precondition requisite for revenue to even come into play as a factor (i.e. the 5,000 room mark) is - practically speaking - so far off that it might be quite difficult for revenue to have this effect before much of that dilution has done its damage?
And further, am I right in thinking that the recent debate between DMO and... (forgive me, i cannot recall the other's name right now) was basically about surmising how much dilution we likely have left to undergo? And that this would obviously be relevant to our worry because it addresses just how much dilution revenue commencement (or rather, its effects) would have to off-set?
(To the other fellow who debated with DMO. My apologies. I greatly valued both of your input, and my mental lapse here shouldn't be taken to suggest otherwise.)
Fairway (and Muskett)
Thanks for the replies/explanations.
Fairway, as regards your thought that that's where this is headed, I have to say that I have been thinking the same thing lately.
Not that my business intuitions are worth the cheap coffee I'm drinking while sitting here entertaining them, or anything, but it nonetheless seems to me that all of this hoopla regarding the poor handling of the convertibles situation strongly suggests it.
It seems very plausible to me that SP and company know that they've got very important/desirable technology on their hands, and that their whole goal is merely to bring the company to the point of buyout. And what better way to fast-track that than to land the kind of deals that TIVU is presently landing. This then would seem to make sense of our general feeling that SP, SH, et al, don't really care to much about toxicity/dilution. After all, from their perspective, why not merely go on collecting the funds generated from dilution until the point of buyout comes around? It's all win for them.
As per the shareholders being given an option to sell to the buyer... Presumably a buyout only requires 51%, right? So invariably not all shareholders will be given this chance, I suppose.
I am asking again, because I don't recall really understanding the discussion last time... What happens to us if TIVUS is bought out? I mean literally, what happens to the shares I own? Do they change in value simply in virtue of the buyout? If so, how? Do they become shares of the new company (that doesn't seem right)?
Can someone help me with this? The next day after a buyout, what precisely does my scottrade account say that I own 350K of??
So I suppose that the pertinent question now is: Do we get a run/uptick right into close, in anticipation of monday pre-market news? Or do we get some profit-taking dwindle right at the end?
Either way, nice day.
and i was discussing something discussed on the discussion board, which you are now doing too.
so i don't think you have a point.
but i'm being almost purposely contrarian now. so i'll shut up.
I'm no pro, and have none of the technical savvy that some in here clearly do, but I'm lookin' at this green 6.5% on about half of yesterday's outlandish volume... and I'm feeling quite at ease about it goin' into next week.
same here, hence my post
Question; Am I imagining that the web site for Super Rad just the other day was horrible, but that it now looks incredible?
Maybe i'm wrong and this one has been up... but then i swear i don't know what i was looking at the other day.
this site looks great.
350K
cleared 'em out?
call me a cynic... i have this sneaking suspicion someone will find some more .013's
not what i mean.
you said you figured out "how" this happened.
can you help me understand what you figured out?
lars,
can you help me understand what you figured out, in newbie terms?
What is a bear raid?
i see.
feeling pretty dejected right about now.
thought that this stock was going to be brilliant.
have i been had?
my "being had" rate is WAY down since beginning investing three months ago... but did I just blow it?
your post does not seem like a reply to mine.
please don't hit the 'reply' button unless you're replying.
did not get in until .07
rode it to double digits but could not sell.
account restrictions (free rides, round trips, etc.)
as i say, not having a day-trading account (in virtue of not having 25K) makes one a sort of punching bag down here.
why do you take this to be so damning?
it hardly is.
he missed it by ONE day.
Who are "these people"?
I'm super skeptical that something sizable enough to have the sort of effect that you guys are organizing can be orchestrated over iHub.
Who is this supposed "herd"?
I don't yet buy it.
If one has a day-trading account, then one can trade 'em.
If not, one is stuck searching for a stock, or stocks, that will run far enough for one to get a day-trading account.
Really thought FBCD was the one.
Have no choice but to bag-hold.
Stuck.
Sucks.
Shucks.
it seems to me that tivus is in a precarious position as they start out. on the one hand, the selling point is the advertising revenue for the hotels. on the other hand, tivus has to sell that ad space, and that is hard to do in small chunks.
so the very thing that tivus needs in order to pitch to advertisers is what they cannot yet have unless they successfully pitch to hotels, rooms.
i know that i'm basically reiterating here, but it seems to me like this is relevant to your worry, isn't it?
i assumed that this dynamic/tension was what steve's phrase was meant to refer to.
Wow, you are an ass.
What ever happened to civility?
So what happened here? HUGE pre-market news, then a 40% spike... but it closes in the red??
Thoughts?
or perhaps that assessment isn't precisely right, but it's close. it nonetheless remains that the recent climb has been characterized by day-long dips within a couple days after big news.