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Good. Please do so.
And when you are there ask him about participating in their cold calling program.
Then report back.
That's because most companies are smart enough to realize that private spinoffs are a poor business decision.
JD, the quick study, hasn't figured that out yet.
The only company I was able to find that did a private spinoff ended up being halted and is no longer around. Its kinda funny to go through pages and pages of google search results and not find examples.
Not to put too fine a point on it but people say that the job of the TA in this process is simple, which it is and has been proven to be such. Oh and of course now we know that the TA isnt gagged because of that.
I am sure happy I wasn't saying that's why the TA was gagged. I would have to admit I was wrong.
I think maybe his point is that window world is more of a door to door type sales company than a "national retailer".
from their site...
We provide a FREE in-home demonstration with no obligation to buy for your convenience
Their business model is to go out and solicit the whole shebang not get people to come into their "stores" many of which are probably simple tiny warehouses with an office front.
Oh, yeah. Joe or Jane homeowner is just going to hop right on the internet and use Google Sketchup to
create a spec sheet for their kitchen plan and submit it to the company for a quote.
From what I can tell there is no way for a customer to have an
opportunity to go and check these cabinets out and see them
under the lights in a retail setting. During the CC from what I
recall JD said that this would be for mass retail. Wal Mart? No.
Kmart? Nope. Lowe's? Nope. Home Depot? Definitiely not there.
I don't see them for sale anywhere that is mass retail.
During the CC JD also said that they had already presented to
somebody. What happened? Why no sales?
I think that this company rejected the presentation and
saw the flaws right away. They probably laughed said how
stupid.
imo menards may well be the second retailer that
etc is working with
This opinion should be taken with a grain of salt because as of yesterday *some* didn't even know they sold cabinets or countertops and had been selling them for years.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=45815234
many did so including myself
I asked for them too. Hmmmm.... I didn't receive them.
I guess not everybody can get them.
nice to see ETC is now *acknowledged*
as a product that actually *exists*
We know the vanities exist. We know custome built pocket screwed cabinets exist.
We have no proof a full line exists. Its basically a secret. Lol. Great advertising.
"trust us they exist"
again ... NASCAR has pull with a lot of folks
on many levels including many of expo's
current customers
So Expo's products that some of these companies already buy isnt enough?
Wonder why that is?
Why doesnt Lowe's want to buy?
Actually those PRs don't say that the product was shipped or sold. They pretty much dance around it.
The first shipment of etc. brand cabinets will be made in the next two to three weeks. This is a small order valued between $12-$14,000 dollars.
At that time it hadn't happened.
then you get this...
Etc. brand cabinetry orders exceeding $40,000 have been completed. Additional shipments with a combined value of over $100,000 are expected to ship in the coming week(s). These shipments are commercial, or residential in nature. The company expects $350,000 plus in etc. brand cabinetry sales by year end.
Completed? what does that mean? That could mean they simply built them.
Sorry but we have zero proof any cabinets have been sold.
Unless of course you are saying that the ones from back in 2008 were sold. Doubt it since this question gets danced around too.
Places like Lowe's and Home Depot arent buying in. And etc. needs to get sales. If they start selling direct it makes them even less likely to ever get into places like Lowe's because distributors don't like competing with the manufacturer.
But without any sales at all it makes them look small time and not to mention the fact that they probably need the revenue and you have worry about what the investors are thinking at this point too.
Kind of a little paradox.
Speaking of basic
You mean like actually having a basic plan of attack for a company?
You mean like actually following some very basic business concepts when running a business?
You know the basic things that Expo hasn't been doing.
sure would be good to see actual proof of people having ever paid for etc.
Too bad management won't provide it.
Of course I buy pennies.
I don't invest in pennies.
Hence the quotes. You missed that huh? Shocking.
your just doing it to make money. Your pathetic.
This has to be intentional right? I mean you can't really be that freaking dumb can you? Every once in a while is fine, but you mess this up at least 3 times a day.
Oh wait, "your" a penny "investor". I guess you are that dumb.
Well it could be a means of trying to sell part of the ownership in etc.
See once etc. is private they will be able to pretty much do whatever they want whenever they want.
So if they sponsor a car and get some name recognition they might be able to lure some doctor or lawyer to throw some money at it in a private investment.
Just a possibility of course and my opinion, but seems reasonable for why they would do this.
The potential customer easily finds the CONTACT US and you'll see the option to call or email.
Except they would probably get screened and then say screw this, I will just go to Lowe's and buy cabinets from a legit company.
Still convinced of this theory huh?
Shouldn't surprise me I guess, you still think it is my fault your investment tanked.
Hi. My name is Owgur. I ignore good stocks so I can keep my money tied up in bad ones. Then I blame other people. Then I cry to the mods and then I cry to admin.
Hahahaha.
Just say "your" sorry to "you're" wife for "loosing" all the money and maybe she will forgive you.
Please tell that to LOWES
You mean the company that has been buying displays from Expo for years, but yet somehow doesn't seem interested in etc.?
I am sure they will change their mind when they see the racecar right?
The numbers are probably awful.
Why else would he hide them?
has it really been 2hours and 40 minutes since the last trade?
O/S as of 2/11/2010 remains 4,318,327,440
Feel free to reply in spanish.
It probably would be easier to understand.
I'm a degree in industrial engineer in my real life !!
Good job Ivan. Now get back to school and learn how to form basic english sentences.
Jajaja? Wtf does that even mean?
Is that russian for Bagholder?
Taki we all know you are now trying to convince people that I am a female because I exposed what you said you wanted to do to me.
Trying to protect your reputation. It's cool, I understand.
You might want to get rid of the pictures of you in your ibox though because they certainly don't help the perception of you.
actually I believe you got banned for being a moron and not being able to follow the TOU.
But hey, as all the other EXPH "investors" do, blame me. Whatever makes you feel better.
Springroll is the most stupid guy in investorshub jajaja
Ivan, I think that maybe this board isn't for you.
I think even my 3 year old nephew can come up with better material. This is the middle school playground here, not preschool paste eating group.
that extra cash will help pay for the truck sponsorships, no?
Maybe the truck sponsorship was to be able to help sell those 300 million shares?
I mean if that's what happened of course.
EXPO HAS DOUBLED THEIR OUTSTANDING SHARE COUNT
since january 2009
find out yet if those pics marked before and after were cabinets that have been purchased?
Would be nice to have at least ONE confirmed purchase of etc. cabinets.
You can fit the entire etc. inventory being carried by retailers in the back of a camping series truck.....
actually in the glovebox
I thought JD was a "quick study"
Cut him some slack, this is a big trasition for them.
the point is .. there is no *promotion* being
done on exph except by those folks at daytona
Nothing more than a guess. the company isnt transparent at all so almost everything is a guess, well except for the red in most brokerage accounts.
Ya know what would be interesting?
FINS...OPEN TA....SHARE STRUCTURE....DIVY....NO PAID PUMP...
Its funny that legitimate actions would be interesting.
Shows the track record of the company.
The only real benefit of these cabinets is to the retailer who will save storage space in their outlet centers.
Too bad NONE of them have seen that as a big enough benefit to overcome the obvious defects.
Maybe that will change, but its been months and NOTHING.
when was clay's last *chart* done on
exph .. and was he *compensated* for
posting it .. that is answer worth
checking out for sure for those with
interest wink
Its only the answer du jour because his last post was uncompensated. That still doesn't make the thousands of dollars paid go away.
I know this one hurts *some* to hear, but their beloved CEO paid somebody thousands of dollars to post on a message board.
Fact. Sorry.
Lmao!!! There was even more in the email, but I don't want to make him look too bad.
I don't want him to overdose on his 'roids.
I think him and fit4ever might be a couple. They seem to travel together here on IHUB.
Would make sense too. I mean TAKI is in love with himself and talks about weightlifting all the time. And then with a name like fit4ever, he is probably an aerobics instructor.
They probably met during step class.
Good to see you here you TAKI. You back in the states yet?
Everybody is waiting to watch your trading clinic. I mean since you are a black belt in trading. Please hurry back to the states and quit chasing around greek men.
Only one of those above statements are true and since you once told me via email...
I will use Duct Tape on your ass to rip it in half.And I will not use Lube
I think everybody knows it is the statement about the greek men that is true.
Nice bleached hair btw.
Rumor has it the dog had been eating some mushrooms.
Fit4ever got some of the toxins in his mouth from his finger and he never recovered.