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Fair, thanks for a response Harry.
I, however, am a fan still. I want to be here and part of it especially for the sake of coming months. I think we all gave big patience so far, would be a big mistake to give up now, imo. Especially, it is a big wait-n-see to me when ABB trial goes full force in March. I think a favorable outcome on this coupled with a business announcement coinciding before/after this trial would not take much effort INRA to see above dollar figure, if I speculate.
To me this longing silence means brewing for something big, well, at least meaningful and tangible.
HarryO... we 'will' go many places from here and in near future, mark my words. I think everyone's big question is when and then how far! :)
But, main reason I wanted to comment here is that since you passed moderator role, I observe you changing your tone in your posts. Rather than being too confident and heralding intangible future events as previously, now you approach INRA very cautiosly these days. What do we owe for this change?
Spin, that was sort of my question as well! (message #2781)
Yes, I would not want total circus here with all sorts of junkie traders but certainly I cant figure why the interest (therefore, volume) is so low for a company like Innova that has real potential (term is disputable though, but hey) and with a striving, respectful and perhaps most importantly a transparent management.
Why do you folks think that INRA’s volume is chronically so low?
It has been mostly boring especially since last summer. Our pps is kind of steady but volume says that there are not many new buyers out there. Is that because we are ‘really’ not in radar of many investors or we are but under close ‘watch’!
RWT's team has an attorney / law firm from Chicago, which has excellent track records in such cases and took this case immediately without any hesitation. This is not an 'in my opinion', rather a factual element as a significant part of our case.
Knowing this and also knowing some highlights about RWT/Innova's position in this lawsuit give me a feeling, if not confidence that we have a lot of leverage.
In my consideration of prospects of INRA pps, ABB case certainly progressed from 'wild card' to be a exciting probability, especially while we have lack of tangible news / progress from Innova's core businesses.
I join to say that our header is probably the BEST in entire investorshub. I bet this is a better PR work than company does on its own. Yet, I am not proud of our share price but our header is something that I feel good that it highly represent something I have stakes in it. Thank you very much everyone who have contributed.
HarryO... my personal thanks to you for all the work you have done as moderator so far. I respect you more now because of your decision. As a result of your decision and because of our excellent header now, you must be certain that you will be making a positive impact for all current and future INRA shareholder.
Our header looks so impressive. It is TIME (overdue) that INNOVA TO DELIVER...
What does it mean for INRA?
They did and we can do it, too ...OR... they did it but we could not!
Thanks a lot for enlightening me and all of us, Arrow. This is useful to make a rough estimate.
That's something I try to get facts (agreement) about this as well. How much money will be going to our attorney in the event of a settlement or court ruling?
This is a very essential question to project things in dollar and sense in case we win this case.
I have seen all kinds of things, so I know an important fact that there is no sure thing in life, therefore, I am not rubbing my hands. But folks, prospects of this case make me excited very much.
Today’s increase looks good, of course. However, I would like to share my feeling that I am sensing some or most part of today’s increase may be related some sort of awakening about the potential prospects of ABB lawsuit. In my opinion, this appears to me “oh my God, I better get in now” type of panic buying. Unless, this proves to be a trend supported by continuous volume / interest in INRA, I would not get too excited yet for the following days or weeks. However, eventually as time nears to trial date, more calculated interest will weight on INRA and in case of a favorable outcome it will not take too long the share price will catch up to its deserved value.
ALL POTENTIAL OR CURRENT SHAREHOLDERS: please keep one thing in mind that Innova is doing great job complying with all due filings and regulations therefore keeping its transparency to investor community. I am personally very happy with that. Because of this, believe me, real INRA value will be reflected on the share price no matter how much people pump or bash on this board or in any other platforms.
As of today, I am pleased, regardless.
As far as I am aware of, there is neither major nor minor hit in ABB case in terms of negative development. Who says and based on what such a thing like a 'major hit'! How vague, false rumour can this be like!
All looks 'promising' as of today. Promising for a great potential to shareholders and promising for the company as this may help them to reach some of their business goals much faster.
This is my two cents on this.
What do you mean? ABB, multi-billion company's ability to pay?
That is truly my stance. Thank you.
And, factor in a very conservative P/E ratio... Here we are! pps being even in a single dollar would be undervalue!
The difference between educated and well positioned investors like us, we dont make fuss, we dont make buzz, we just wait patiently but based on truth and factual potential.
Folks… I would like to draw your attention once again to approaching ABB trial and hoping to strengthen your belief and hopes in INRA as a shareholder.
I don’t know how many of you know the details, therefore the probability and the reward potential of this ABB lawsuit that is scheduled to be heard in March 2007. Amongst many areas the company is engaged or pursuing, this case presents itself as the most important value-related tangible event in the foreseeable future.
Although, I have an idea about the range of $$$ outcome, I choose not to speculate. However, I urge everyone either current shareholder or on sidelines waiting/thinking to jump on, do your due diligence and try to get facts about Innova’s leverage in this lawsuit and also check the credits of company’s attorney in such cases. All I can say is that it is very promising.
Please remember how much the market valued INRA stock (then IVHG) last summer when Ashcroft news came out, which in fact was merely an exciting alliance but had no revenue/business substance as far as its immediate impact on the balance sheet at the moment. (btw, I am still strong believer that Ashcroft Group’s involvement with Innova will play its part eventually) Having said that, if this case is won, just think its potential how far and immediate it will carry INRA share price.
ABB case once was not more than a ‘wildcard’ with no certainty on the trial date, now (as ‘weo’ said recently) it will be taking on the center stage and is ready to play a significant part on company’s future as well as its value.
PS: This board turned into a place that non-INRA related postings reached to disturbing level. During xmas time, I was happy to see especially great research work of SPIN and many new faces postings one after another useful information. All that work and focus gave its way to personal accusations, self-defending and self-explaining posts responding to postings of a few deliberate, baseless pumpers and bashers.
1- PLEASE IGNORE THOSE TYPES OF PEOPLE / POSTS, BELIEVE ME THEY WILL GO AWAY ONCE IF THEY FIND AUDIENCE.
2- ONLY INNOVA COMPANY MATTERS IN THIS BOARD, DEAL WITH EACH OTHER OFF THIS BOARD, i.e. PMs, emails even phone calls.
3- PLEASE STAY FOCUS ON BUSINESS.
Good point and I dont have any idea. I am thinking that this may be something that we can directly ask Innova to find out.
Certainly. Yes, settlement is one possibility. Favorable result of this lawsuit, whether settlement or judgement, has potential to generate significant amount of money for the company that would pay its debt and bring sums for strategic acquisitions and of course, stock price will be in unrecognizable levels than these days. I also think that Walt’s / Innova’s determination on strategic acquisition plans in 2007 and the expected outcome from ABB case are highly related. This gives me confidence from a different angle.
To the board: Regarding the ABB case, I urge you to look into the reputation and history of the attorney who took the case for Innova. It is another big chip in our hands.
I do agree that ABB trial is the most critical thing in foreseeable future for the company. March is so close and because it is a jury trial, it will be final in matter of days instead of dragging in uncertainty. In my opinion, Innova has a great, credible case in this lawsuit. Once it is resulted to Innova's favor, its impact will not only be huge in pps as soon as the case announced, it will provide leverage to other potential cases that company can go forward.
Of course, in the meanwhile we expect to hear business news i.e. new contracts or acquisitions, like we have been waiting for.
HarryO... while I dont completely understand 180 degree perception change SPIN has demonstrated in last ten days, I believe he has more materially contributed to this board in regards to things he has done to our header as well as sharing his extensive research.
I believe, he deserves to be in managing the board and I certainly want him to put his very informative header which is(was) definitely a great source for all potential investors.
With due respect to you personally, I am with you in my belief with this company and its potential, but I must also make it clear that I dont appreciate baseless, pumping like statements you have been putting out, which does not help to pps at all.
I have been posting in this board every now and then but mostly on the reader side. As someone said today, this board was mostly educational and fun but has shifted to a no value adding source for investment evaluation.
On a seperate note... Even though, I find current disappointing price move speculative, temporary and not reflecting company’s true potential, I certainly welcome initiatives like ‘RetiredinFL’ have been volunteering or recommendations/discussions like ‘Arrow335’ came up with.
My view is that while I am not happy with the lack of solid / assuring / attention-building news and therefore the deterioration in share price but I must admit that at least I am happy to see our internal buzz has increased significantly. In addition, new faces (names) emerge as they post their concerns/ideas, so it gives a good indication that the attention given to this black-box is bigger than we think and should be able to drive the pps to exciting highs if company heralds moving results/news!
I am holding ALL my shares. And, I am not naive investor or a dreamer!
I am not influenced by autonomous's posts/confidence but I certainly agree with him. I am like him in believing the company and its potential. This has been unchanged from the day I have been introduced to Innova and my perception even has grown stronger.
Having said that I must admit that yes, I have been and (currently I am) frustrated with the company's deliverables to date. I must also add that this is more a timing issue about the company not a competence.
I am holding and even expanding my portfolio with INRA especially these days.
GLTA.
Happy, Healthy and Joyful NEW YEAR to everyone.
I was able to read slew of postings, unusually so many all of a sudden. My thanks go to SPIN for his hard work and everyone else contributed.
I stand and remain strong with Innova. No hesitations whatsoever. We all will be rewarded.
It is all good and honorable for the company. But, how and when it will translate all of these to shareholder value that part I am concerned, I am not convinced yet. It seems to me that it is a long way down the road for CoroWare to contribute Innova's bottom line. Although their positioning with Microsoft and importance of their involvement is very important, commercial therefore the revenue strength is not as imminent, in my opinion.
Am I wrong? (I'd like to be wrong) :o)
...which, supports my guess / feeling that there seems to be more sideliners / watchers of INRA than the current shareholders that looks like will jump with more quantifiable information released by the company.
While I completely agree with you SPIN, I am just curious how pps will get where it 'really' belongs to.
My concern is how fast market will realize that there is such company with all these things it has either in process or stand as very imminent but trades way low rather than where it is supposed to be. Unfortunately, we are not in 1990s when stock prices were driven purely based on expectations.
We look/feel like the parents of a genius kid who needs to be discovered by academics. It may be so easy for us to feel that way but when our kid is in the crowd amongst so many other kids, our kid has to do something to draw necessary attention. I am not sure including today's announcement if Innova did such thing to send a strong signal about its potential. I am talking about more and strategic PR work to reach out in the market / investor community.
Today, while reading Microsoft's announcement, I noticed the only thing put CoroWare’s name first was the alphabetical order. It made me realize that there are so many other robotic companies named in the statement which seemed to me, neither company mentioned in a better position or strength over another. My argument is that having such statement from Microsoft will not be sufficient to ignite due interest in CoroWare/Innova and in INRA stock in a way we all have been expecting like our kid will be 'discovered'!
Yes, it is evident that Innova being undervalued with all the things it has in place and potentially will have.
Yes, I can guarantee you that Ashcroft Group's involvement with Innova is not simply a window dressing.
Yes, our CEO, Walt has spoken in couple of venues lately about the potential of the company and the undervaluation of its stock.
… But, it seems like is not enough to attract investors in the near future, in my opinion, unless or until Innova announces a firm, multi-million dollar contract / purchase order from a company or government institution.
By the way, I don’t see today’s CoroWare news will make big impact soon to company’s stock price. Because, although CoroWare’s position in its technology and ties with Microsoft portrayed strong in today’s statement by Innova but from an investor standpoint it does not seem to reflect significant revenues in a timeframe people can estimate.
Meanwhile, I remain to be hopeful and convinced.
This news further confirms Coroware's involvement therefore Innova's future potential altogether, as we all have been stating and expecting all along.
What's interesting is that despite all visible and behind scene potential combined and given the additional facts like accuracy and honesty about Innova as an entity -as someone nicely said- market and the investor community have not discovered this company yet. That's is sad... for us!
INRA should be trading above $2 long time ago with multiples of our current volume, imo.
I think, those days will come, question is when or how soon!
Good luck to all of us...
Thanks for the update on ABB.
I dont follow that closely. If/when Innova wins or settles this case, it certainly is a plus, but it is not the reason why I invested in Innova. I think that we will all see better value in our stocks stemming from the right strategic moves company has placed all along. Gains on ABB case would be only an attractive bonus to the company, therefore to stock price.
This year is alraedy leaving us! Although I am expecting some favorable announcements before this year ends, I feel that none will be ground shaking. I must admit that based on the potential and the things company have been pursuing, I thought, we would be talking in above $1 levels. Yes, I am disappointed for the timing only but not hesitated at all for the upside in shareholder value.
Hoping and believing that 2007 will be a smash hit.
For those sending me PMs, I cannot PM you back due to my account type. If you PM me your email address, I can gladly respond you back by email. Thanks.
Yes, I am a beliver that INRA will KABOOM soon in the near future. :)
Not that I am writing this because there is a nice upward move today (although the supporting volume is not exciting yet)... I am reiterating this time in a fun way that we, the educated investors in Innova/INRA know that this company/stock is loaded like a pregnant women expecting a baby! Only thing we dont know quite clear is that when the labor will begin! :o)
You all have a great holiday season.
Introducing..INRA (Innova Robotics and Automation)
Take a look at it. It is credible, trustable and full of potential, certainly worth the look.
I will cover this more in detail later on. For those who might be interested and have further questions, you are welcomed to PM me anytime.
Best regards...
I am looking for accumulation to increase considerably soon after completion of r/s process and we have the new/correct price.
Today it was fun though to see huge percentage increase and one dollar level. I am looking forward to see $1.00 and above in real terms with lots of volume (=confidence in business).
One thing I can say for sure now is that management is VERY engaged to make it happen as we speak.
to comment about the 'deception' word... I cannot defend every decision company makes but one thing I comfortable say is that this is not a typical otc, pk or a penny stock that! This is a reliable and true company that can rarely be found in such listings.
Folks (whether investors or sideliners for Innova).. watch what happened to SLJB during this week! A complete disaster! That is a real deceptive company! Unfortunately (I envy so much) it has got huge interest from both traders and investors based on entirely phoney things. On the other hand, we have Innova, which is very responsible company, acting like a much bigger, established institution and with a reliable, proven technology / products. It is waiting on two things...
1- to be better discovered by the investment community. (that is the sole purpose of the reverse split)
2- to be given a blessing / achieve a large contract(s) using its unique competencies.
Of course, address your concerns and questions here but do yourself a favor. Keep your faith in Innova and do your friends/family a favor, recommend Innova. You will be rewarded / you will be complimented.
I really can't speculate on timing but my estimate for pps has not changed from the day one... $1.20-2.00 (in effective post split prices)
Thanks for the info, weo.
I am so curious to see how the new price with same value will shake out!
I am hoping that once its effects play out, all those people have been watching Innova on the sidelines see the post r/s picture that they were reluctant to enter prior to that and make a move now. Even though, with the current lack of news going on rightnow, this should help to bring back a reasonable traffic/volume as it used to be until late summer this year.
SLJB vs IVHG... 'sljbstrong' you are so right on the money making/losing thing for now.
Do your DD in a spare time and extensively, especially where it stands now, potentials and imminent opportunities the company currently is engaged working on... you should be able to come to terms to endorse it.
Best regards, best of luck.
Come next week, come! If this closes around .13 today, I can see the momentum to reach high teens before Wednesday. How high we can go from there… 20s or 30s, it all depends on how strong and also meaningful those numbers will look like, along with -would be good- other announcements, that certainly not move the momentum and also the volume into much higher levels.
Despite all the traffic and interest so far, I think, SLJB is still a hidden jam and is to be revealed next week.
I suggest my friends not to buy a lottery ticket, buy SLJB. You may not be a millionaire, but certainly will be better off so soon.
Note: As an FYI... Another company I am also heavily invested in is Innova Holdings (IVHG), which has even higher upside potential than Sulja, within a half a year or sooner. I suggest you all to take a good look at it.
My congrats and thanks go to SPIN, as well. It looks much much better now. We have a display that is concise and reader friendly.
As much as Innova is what it is and we most (if not all) believe that it is a good investment with great reward potential, as its shareholders, therefore believers, we ALL are also responsible to promote and attract new investors aside from what Innova has to prove itself. This can be spreading the word to our friends, relatives, colleauges, etc.
I want to end this message saying that this company has behaviors of a big corporation in terms of its governance, which is rare to find in OTB stocks. To me, it is another layer of assurance above and beyond its business potential.
Best regards to ALL.
Remember one nature of stock market that happened to SLJB today. OVERREACTION!
Market tends to react to news first, then reality catches up, either direction.
What has changed between today comparison to previous days? Nothing! But, some who put their scared money and/or weak faith (vs solid money and belief) created the shake up. Started selling as if company said 'no audit' or 'we are closing the shop'!
So, thanks to you, we are able load more.
Soon, you either will regret or buy back at higher prices.
I want to buy as well even over a penny (and below 2) and as a fact, I did. But, volume is so thin that does not allow me to get as many as I wanted to.
Yes, there is no news but we know that there are developments that we anxiously wait are curently underway. In normal conditions, this stock should be flying or at least way better valued than this with a very comfortable volume. I believe, regardless of the outcome on the reverse split issue, existence of this subject hangs over this stock like a dark cloud that effects its volume negatively far more than the price.
Even many people I recommended Innova as to be their one valuable investment are excited about the profile and potential of company but currently sidelined until the date reverse split is decided one way or another.
Frankly, I am looking forward to that.
I am looking forward to see IVHG escapes from its latest stagnancy that has been for couple of months.
I cannot think of being investor (or share owner even for flipping reasons) of company whose CEO needs bodyguards to protect himself from... the shareholders! This speaks in volume.
I cannot think of a viable and responsible company that does not / cannot furnish financials, especially this long.
At this point of time and until/if one day company provides audited numbers, Grifco is nothing other than a fairy tale.
I posted on this board a few times in the past that I was watching this company, the reactions of its shareholders as well as so-called not shareholders but those cannot help thempselves to come here so often and argue with shareholders. It is like a soap opera. What a circus!
I am not a genius myself but certainly smart and experienced enough not to have any shares of this company.
fringe_remnant... you seemed like a fresh legs on this board but after reading your last post, I could not help to write a few lines.
With all due respect to you personally, your comments are without any knowledge base about this company and what you are saying is totally useless. This is an OTB stock and companies in this sort of stocks cannot be explained by technical analysis.
You really need to sift through what this type of companies are about, their strengths, potential, business models, etc., even if they are real or phony! Otherwise, it is ample statistical bs and totally misleading.
SPIN... if you send a PM with an email address of yours, I can answer your questions, because I cannot send PMs due to my membership status.
FOR OTHERS ON THIS BOARD... I have been quite for sometime but certainly on the watch for our IVHG and every message posted.
I believe the r/s related expectation has been the most important factor for our volume going down incredibly low very recently, therefore the buy interest. But, I certainly know that the potential interest has not diminished in the meanwhile. There are more people watching on the sidelines that we know of and are waiting two things to happen, 1- conclusion and even perhaps the effects of r/s, 2- news or more credible indications of revenue...good revenue, to be precise.
My quiteness stemmed from the lack of solid, tangible and revenue related news only. My assessment as well as expectations about this company have not changed a bit. I guess, only thing that changed and I could do nothing about that is the timing of their deliverables. As in world of business, nothings is cut and dry, things change, things take time. I believe in the fundemantals and great potential of Innova company and wait those days to come that will prove us type of returns as it used to be in tech stocks in the late 90s, which you cant get/see easily in many stocks. I must reiterate that this is NOT a naive expectation.
With my best wishes to everyone who has or is watching IVHG...
I called the company today and was able to speak someone.
It is weird to say this in an investment board, but while it is very mysterious to me what this company is about, I have a 'feeling' that it is a 'company'!
Note: I dont have shares of this company but I am still following due to my interest promised during the spin-off from GFCI in May 2006.