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It takes time. Its not like they will hand over any info. Any info that will be available to view will be incomplete. They will say anything to keep people off their backs. We have no idea who is who and their prior involvement with Cardinal. Why would Stan even take the job and get involved? No pay and risk? Total brain damage. No one has ever answered that one not even Stan. What I do know is the information I have so far will be a big problem when they file. I can only imagine what others have out there as well regarding information.
Bradford is just one of the many leases Cardinal lost. It was a total scam. Regarding Dan, all he does is repeat the same vague BS. No substance. Never any substance. Cant blame him for that because he knows nothing about the oil game. Now if you need insurance he is your guy! He is as dumb as a box of rocks. Total loser.
They all know each other sooner or later. Anyone with any morales wouldn't work for companies like this. How do you think Carlisle got involved? He had his own scam. Was it just an accident that the scams were similar setup? These guys are all scammers from the day they were born. Its in their blood. Who brought Ford in and why? No one knows, but can assure you they aren't here to tell the truth or make it right with the investors that had money stolen.
So true. Ford and his crew are not any different from the others. They just want to make a quick buck. They don't give a crap about the investors. Even if you have to gather finical information it doesn't take this long. Why do accountants quite or not take the job? Because they don't want to lose their license and be connected to fraud. Petterson probably took the job because he was already tied to it. He is just as screwed as the rest of them. The SEC doesn't just go away. Ford is in the same boat. Heck we don't even know who actually "owns" Cardinal and what a plan might be. Communicating on the website doesn't take money or require filings. From start to finish they are pathetic. Prove us wrong and get current. Pay your investors back the money that was stolen. I am pretty sure neither of these things are part of the plan. One of Tim's biggest mistakes was sharing too much info to try and save his butt. It will just pull the rest of them into jail. The courts will settle this one and it will be UGLY.
We are all still waiting to hear what Ford is planning on doing. Filing for starters, but after that? BTW, I believe I have found someone who has all the Bradford financials and will provide. I will compare to what Cardinal provides. If I were a betting man would say they won't match. Should be very interesting.
LOL. 20k out of millions of useless subzero shares His comment could only have been an attempt at a joke. HaHa.
These guys all run in the same circles. Thats why we can't trust current Cardinal management. They are doing the same thing as old management. I doubt new management has any of their own money in the company other than IOUs or assigned stock as compensation.
Still no excuse to miss deadlines and go silent. In my case I have asked for 3 years. Denied. I am entitled to the info. Crawford has ALL the info. They need to get it from him. What company doesn't have duplicate records? So, Cardinal has no money, skill,, leases, assets or investor confidence, Now it seems they don't have proper or complete records? WOW they really are bozos. Tim will eventually get charged and pretty sure he will go to jail. The question is who is going with him? Old and current management should be very nervous. Any CEO, CFO, COO, VP is executive level and can't say I didn't know.
looking back 2-3 months of posts doesn't make you knowledgable. The current crew is just as bad. They have missed deadline after deadline. They haven't performed. They can't just say "Well it was their fault not ours". When you own/run a company you take on all of its liabilities and responsibilities. You can't separate them. I have asked Ford and Peterson for the financials related to the Bradford. I was told they would provide. Of course nothing. Now Ford won't even respond to my lawyer. I have signed documents stating as an owner I have the right to obtain and review all financial information. They simply won't. Does this sound any different than Tim? Does this sound like management that is anyones fiduciary? By not providing they are participating in the fraud and theft. They have the financials and simply refuse to provide. So, if you think these are good guys, then great. Pretty sure you won't find too many people agree.
I agree with Oilguy. If you are calling on the behalf of a company asking for someone to invest you have to stand behind the company. You should know what you are selling. In this case, Cardinal is a fraud and stole money looking to steal more. That makes you part of them. If you don't know the company then you are ignorant. They call to make money and couldn't care less about what happens afterward. So, yes, Doug, Dan, Todd and Tim are all part of huge scam. They are losers that have screwed investors out of millions. The evidence is there and irrefutable. Its a slam dunk. So, don't tell us Doug or any of these losers are ok guys. They are thieves end of story.
Agree. A VP of what? No one is buying this "stock". Its only worth 1 then-thousandth of a penny. Now if you are gambling knock yourself out. However, recap. No money, leases or skills. Plenty of debt, lawsuits, delinquent fillings and under SEC investigation. Sounds like a winner of a company and stock to me. TOM still waiting for you to confirm who Doug is. Is it Dan's brother?
Apparently.
They sound like bozos like Tim and Todd Crawford. All 4 are crooks. TOM if this is your Doug, doesn't sound promising. GO CEGX!
Well if Doug said its true then it is! This is what we are saying.. Some guy named Doug calls and says big stuff is coming but doesn't have a last name! This is the funniest thing we have heard since the guy who posted and couldn't put 2 words together. GO CEGX!
Maybe but he isn't the CEO. Is he even part of this scam? Dan isn't anyone of importance. He was hired to sell and has absolutely no idea what he is doing or saying. Still nothing from TOM. Still waiting.
Well no need to keep trying to figure it out we just need to wait and hear from Tom!
If you could share a little more regarding who Doug is since he called. None of us have heard of a Doug. Definitely not a CEO. Simple question, should have a simple answer.
Doug? Who is Doug? If you are a penny stock investor I can guarantee no one called you. Cardinal doesn't care about any of the investors, especially penny stock investors. The only legit announcement will be that the SEC changes the lot of them and puts them in jail. First, they have to pay millions back to investors they scammed. Its not like that will just go away. Maybe Doug can enlighten us as to what Cardinal was or operates? How can anyone invest in a company that has nothing? Its not like their track record or reputation is good. Who invests in a company that the SEC and FBI are investing? Just curious. Still waiting for any real info from the pro-Cardinal members. Pretty much have disappeared.
better late than never! Hopefully he doesn't get his hopes up! Let us know what Stanly says. I am sure it will be helpful.
even if they respond don't believe anything they tell you. They haven't done anything promised. They are scammers. I wish they were legit, but the facts are the facts.
That makes more sense. I don't blame them for taking it back. Cardinal/CEGX was scamming everyone.
That's interesting. We need to find out who is McCain and Julian? I doubt both have the first name Guy. Maybe "Guy" . Something doesn't make sense with this. No surprise. Maybe our CEGX supporters know? Especially the ones that have all the inside information from Stan himself. Pretty sure we won't get any manful responses.
Agree. It seems these guys just loop back. They run in the same pack. So, they over inflate value, siphon off the capital, do little to no work, fail, close shop and leave investors high and dry. They then get lease taken back and do it again with the pack. Still what happened to all the supporters? They have completely disappeared. Any creditable evidence from supporters that we are wrong?
Seems that way. They over charged/stole money and left their investors with nothing. No one to this day has offered an explanation as to what they are planning to do with 0. 0 x anything is still 0!
That's what I am saying. There is nothing going on.. Once the info comes out everyone will see what a scam this was. So many people will go down with Crawford. Its going to get ugly!
Confused here? Cardinal/CEGX owns no oil or leases. Price of oil could be $100/B and they still have nothing.
LOL. Couldn't be more true!
Pretty sure CEGX misses the deadline to get current. Surprise! I think they were hoping Santa would bring them a stocking full of money!
That is interesting. That would suggest Paul, Tim and Judy knew each other. I will look to see what I have. Pretty sure we will find a connection.
Thats exactly what he does. Tries to make it hard to track. Such a loser.
Tim's Bio says he works for Capital City Partners. His brother is listed but not Tim. Wasn't Tim working with another Columbus company recently?
See Capital City below:\
http://www.capcityenergy.com/board-of-directors/
Looks like he doesn't want to list Cardinal on his resume anymore!
https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothy-crawford-003ab79/
His brother is Todd Crawford
Read this:
http://www.cardinalenergygroup.com/cardinal-energy-group-inc-appoints-capital-city-securities-placement-agent/
Yes she was intimately involved. She only left when she wasn't getting paid and they broke up. She then went to start her own prom listed below. She had the nerve to ask me to participate. It was setup just like Tims. Total joke and she knows nothing about oil.
What did he sue her for? Assume defamation? Thats Tim's MO. He threatens legal or starts it, stops paying his attorney and moves on. He has probably had a dozen lawyers.
Try searching his brothers capital company. He's likely involved as well. Tim is even working with a new group in Columbus. Back to scamming!
Amazing they are even trying to say differently. I will obtain the information no matter how long it takes. Once I do game over. Still waiting to hear what Stan and his cronies are planning.
Yes they were the operator and 100% responsible. Look at #9. I have asked and been denied access to the finical records for 3 years by Crawford and now Ford. Ford denying me access has created damages and thus liability for him and the company. My request remains the same. Allow me to review the financials of the business we own and see where the capital went to. If ANY of it went to anything outside of its intended use they are screwed. There is only 1 reason they won't allow me access.
First, who are you? What is your involvement with CEGX? Second, CEGX and Cardinal are/were the same guys. They structured and sold the Bradford. Thee is no way to disassociate them. They were just scamming more money by being the "operator". Last, new management cant ignore past fraud. New management hasn't performed on anything they have promised. Current management is acting the same as last. Maybe you know why someone is keeping this company on life support?
Just curious, other than buying this stock because it is cheap is there any reason anyone would purchase? Ever? Especially now knowing they dont own any leases, oil and have no money? All the executives have other jobs. CEGX doesn't even have an office. There are no real employees. Does this sound like a real company? Just curious.
What would you expect them to tell you? They lie about everything so why would this be any different? Don't actions speak louder than words? What have they done to show any of us that their words mean anything?. Nothing. We have spoken to Dan and he is a chump. He knows nothing and is just there to lap up commission if they sell again. He knows absolutely nothing about oil. His back ground is insurance sales which is barely a step above a used car salesman. Does this sound like someone we should believe when he says it will be fine? Believe nothing he says because he knows nothing. If management and Dan have given you specific information and game plan please share. If they told you they want to clean it up, make it right and filings are coming they are lying. They have said this for 2 years. So, its time for action not for them to reiterate BS.