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This stock will never get back to its market cap of 3.55 billion it had at the height of the company in 2007. At best on great earnings and turn around including a deal with shell I could see a market cap Between 500-750 million. I would not be surprised if this stocks drops to low 3's before earnings. Not only that but I would assume the company starts to bring the outstanding share total wayyyyy down. Talking 150/200-1 reverse split to after earnings if great in think between 13-20 per share. Then the reverse split of 150/200-1 bringing the stock back to 400's I think people are dreaming thinking this stock rests above 20. IMO
$607 billion...... just think shom is trading at .001 if they could get just one thousandth of a percent of that we'd be talking 607 million...that's 607x what the company is worth now! Even one ten thousandth of a percent 60.7 million that's 60x what they are worth. See where I'm going with this. They only need a small small fraction of that pie and we will all have enough dough to start a bakery!
It's Friday! It's super bowl weekend! Shom is popping off! It's alllllll good
This stock will never get back to its market cap of 3.55 billion it had at the height of the company in 2007. At best on great earnings and turn around including a deal with shell I could see a market cap Between 500-750 million. I would not be surprised if this stocks drops to low 3's before earnings. Not only that but I would assume the company starts to bring the outstanding share total wayyyyy down. Talking 150/200-1 reverse split to after earnings if great in think between 13-20 per share. Then the reverse split of 150/200-1 bringing the stock back to 400's I think people are dreaming thinking this stock rests above 20. IMO
Having said that I will enter prob Monday if not later today and hold for a 5-10 bagger and then I will be gone
At this point news is news. We are to assume that if there is a press statement on say Monday that on the following Tuesday or Wednesday we will get the same news in a summed up press telease with a slightly different statement from the CEO. Everyone knows I'm in on shom but like I've said over the last few weeks it's press releases like these that are starting to turn investors that have been here for a while away. George needs to get his act together!
Having said that I do not believe that these press releases are false just poorly written and uninformative on what is going on with the company.
Do you think shom is trolling us now, with the name change to dr. Zhongzheng liu?
professor dato liew choong chin
Dr liu Choong chin
Dr. Liu Zhongzheng
Dr. Zhongzheng liu
Lol.....
??? Means liu Choong chin but translated is liu chongzheng
When translating liu choongchin from English to Chinese you get ???
If you take the Chinese translation and translate back to English you get liu chongzheng
When translating liu Choong chin to English to Chinese you get ????
If you take the Chinese translation and translate back to English you get liu qui chin
??? liu Zhongzheng
??? Liu Zhongzheng
And on and on and on......
If someone is writing the original articles in Chinese or using the names given in Chinese you get it...
Is it possible that the original press release is written in Chinese when sent out across to say a news distribution service such as marketwired? If so, would it really be shoms fault that they are decyphering the name as Zhongzheng instead of Choong chin? That is what comes up when using the Chinese logograms. Not to say that is what's going on but it could possibly be the situation. Also when I say they are translating the name wrong, what I mean is from the Chinese characters to English and not necessarily saying it is shom that is translating it wrong. I understand where you are coming from about shom correcting it if it's wrong but I don't think it is entirely On them
He must have paid off all the debt! Thank goodness for Miguel!
I certainly hope not!
Except for the people who didn't have any trouble finding the information of dr. Liu Zhongzheng which has been constantly posted on this board
I believe that is what he mentioned. The ccej misleading or fraudulent or written incorrect post messed everything up which ever way you look at it. If it wasn't for that post the remaining press releases would be referred to as good and the difference between Zhongzheng and Choong chin would not be an issue.
In response to Djponders findings on the filings from June and sept of 2016:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=128137224
IMO:
As of the filings for June 2016 there were notes payable in the amount of $80,500 in promissory and convertible notes with incurred interest of $10,066. $80,500 is not a huge number for a company who is currently expanding their business into several positions, and entering into new markets for the sales of new products.
As of the third quarter filings for September 30 2016. There are no current liabilities. There are no notes payable but since two numbers on seperate lines look similar it is to be assumed book keeping mischief is happening. When in fact, is it possible; that all the notes have been paid or converted already at this time and thus the notes payable was erased as the the total liability has also been erased from the balance sheet? And if notes payable were used to purchase new equipment or such, would it be out of the question that the fixed assets would take the place of the notes payable to reflect the payment and thus ownership of such fixed assets?
Form T trades
8,000,000
2,000,000
16:10:57 0.00107 8000000 OTO
16:02:58 0.00108 2000000 OTO
LoL
I know it's just my opinion but I tried to tell the board this morning. The news that came yesterday although good news is not the news this company needs at this point. There has been too much speculation over what's true and what is false that with the releasing of pr like yesterday we will continue to get the day traders and the mm's coming in and flipping shares and it will bounce up and down until the BIG NEWS hits. The BIG NEWS will be in a pr but it will have actual verified proof of positive news that no one will be able to refute. I hope the buyers and longs can see this and hold or add in the meantime but as we all know sometimes that's not the case and people try to get in and out for a quick buck and by doing so the price of shom will hover in the low teens!
You are correct. The translation between English and Chinese characters is in the mandarin pronunciation. Zhongzheng is the same as Choong-Chin. For those that do not understand the way logograms work in the Chinese culiture I advise you to google and read up on it. You will not only see what I mean but learn something new!
"Fingers" crossed! No pun intended. Lolzzzz
You are correct! I understand the value in the last pr. I just know that that news was already available to me from speaking with and reading into biotech precision. I am a firm believer in shom I've been in for over two years and I have never sold. I'm not saying that the news want big but the bigger piece of pie is yet to drop. When that hits the buyers will be back in packs and the blocks will be eatin up like candy! I hope the latest news spreads well and we see the later of my opinion as we cross .0024! Go shom go
Everyone says buy the dips and that's great but with the research I've done anything under .02 is still worth a buy! That's two cents! Not a mistake. And that is my two cents
I don't know any other way to let you know, but it is the same name just translated different from mandarin to English Zhongzheng is choong-Chin like Einhorn is finkel!
Not much
Lol....I guess. Anything possible. Or it could be just a casual email between two people's personal emails.
True. I don not expect people to believe what I type. But it's there for the taking. I'm not here to lie cheat or deceive. Only to provide unverified facts for those who can use the help for a place to start when performing their dd
Hello XXXX
I'm no longer with the company. The websites domians should have been transfered out of my name.
Regards,
Miguel
Exactly! Many moving parts in this operation. You could even add one more box with biotech precision!
Not sure if you have Facebook but as I mentioned in an earlier post they are pretty quick in their response time and they will be able to clarify with you as to the name of the dr. Just be aware of the time change difference when emailing and waiting for a response. Thanks
Another example of the Chinese characters (symbols) being incredibly hard to translate when using names would be this exact post. Underneath the picture of dr liew choong-chin there are characters, What would someone think those symbols meant. I'm sure that most would lean to think it was his name translated to Chinese. And you are correct. However when the characters are used to translate back to English it's translated to "doctor". This is what I mean when I mention the Chinese name is hard to translate when written in the logograms not in actual English letters.
Absolutely
The original pr that is sent out of the office in flushing are written in chinese
Thanks. I know it's not hard to understand. I'm just trying let others know the deal. I know who he is im not worried about it. Thanks for the link though. I'm sure others would live to read up.
I believe the term is lost in translation. It is 100% verified that dr. Liu Zhongzheng is dr. Liew Chong chin
Thank you for adding that. You are correct.
The new registration is not due till mid February at some point. I'll have to look the actual date up
Yes you are right. I should not have used the term "fear mongering" to get my point across about Miguel dotres. My point is that Miguel dotres is no longer affiliated with shom and thus his connection to Adam rossique should no longer be of concern.
My concern about Biotech Precision is that according to Whois, their website was just recently created on 2016-06-08.
Biotech precision was called biotech stem cell prior to the name change in around march22,2016. The company has been around longer than the actual website. I don't feel the need for concern that the website was just created about six months ago. It is an emerging company that has won multiple awards for the innovative product and technology that they have been using in the Asian pacific region. Having a concern for what the actual collaboration will be between the two would be the only concern you should have at this point regarding biotech precision imo. If you contact the company I'm sure they would be happy to walk you through the steps they are taking in order to collaborate with shom in that market!
That's the exact same date that KC Global Holdings Ltd. registered with the Nevada SOS with the same address as SHOM.
Kc Global registering with the Nevada sos is not coincidental. The two companies didn't decide over night on 1/9/17 and then post a or the following morning that they are going to collaborate with one an another. Since the merger of shom and ces tech back in around march of '16 there have been numerous pieces that are still currently forming in order to get this company to the point in which they will be in a position to become fully reporting as well as incredibly profitable both for the company and the share holders alike.
Also, another concern is that the homemedy.com website is registered to Miguel Dotres who I understand works with Adam Rossique.
Although the homemedy website is currently registered to Miguel dotres that is because he was the intermin CEO at the time of the merger. The shom website and the Facebook page were also registered to Miguel but as time passes and each separate entity is completed and passed on the registration does as well. When the homemedy platform launches soon and the website is put up it will no longer be in the hands of Miguel dotres. As far Adam rossique he was indeed linked to Miguel dotres however Miguel dotres is no longer affiliated with shom so I don't find that to be necessary information spread about to fear monger
I'd like to get clarification on TB Group's capability to extend a $180MM credit line to an OTC ticker as well.
And as far as the capability of tb group to extend a $180m loc to an otc ticker. It does not mean that it has the right to go out and just spend 180m on whatever it seems fit. The company is not going to bankrupt itself in order to help a up and coming company position itself and develope and move its product. It was a press release alerting the people know that it was given a line of credit not a press release with all the signed contract agreements established. Shom will need this money over time to get to where they want to be. There are plenty of otc companies worth billions of dollars it doesn't mean they are horrible companies it's just the way the decided to do there business. Stay on the otc instead of uplifting. If you have time look into a company called home instead senior living. It is a privately owned company that started out as a family taking care of an elderly grandparent and has now reached worldwide and they do at least $1b per year.
Soon everything will be more clear and everyone's answers will be heard. In the meantime reach out. Make phone calls write emails. Follow the social media and you will learn much more
In the near future lol
Right now shom is currently focused on the Asian pacific market and thus most of the works are currently written in Chinese and needed to be translated. Translating Chinese to English can sometimes be difficult bc of the many dialects.......And not to say they are not working in the US market as well,they are; but once the homemedy platform drops I believe we will all have a more clearer understanding of the company and the pr will be taken care of
https://m.facebook.com/Biotech-Precision-Berhad-516616935212065/
With that link they make it easy to email,message, or call right from the page itself
I totally agree. It is bothersome to me that they do not have someone that is in charge of the pr department at this moment in time. I'm sure it will change at some point. Hopefully sooner than later. I have been in communication with the people at biotech precision. If you do not want to call they have a pretty decent response time via Facebook messenger as well. Not only that but with Facebook messenger it is nice bc you can see when a message has been read. That way you are not sitting around wondering if you ever got through to someone.
Good morning Veronicafox yes I have confirmed shoms claims regarding dr. Liu Zhongzheng. The problem with the pr's that have recently been released is the language barrier that is confusing many people. Silly to hear I know but true. The name Dr. Zhongzheng that is in the pr's lately is actually translated to Dr. Liew Choong-Chin
Thank you for the message. I am not a "stuck holder" if I chose to do so I could seek all my shares now for a profit. I have not lost any money in this as of now and I don't plan on it. I bought all my shares after doing plenty of research starting 2-3 years ago. My only mistake if "you" look at it that way is not selling when it hit the .0098 mark. I could be up huge and I could have bought back in for a slightly higher premium. I just don't see it that way. Having said that I am disappointed in the ccej press release that seems to have everyone that hasn't reached out or done their own due diligence in the company. I'm not here to brag that I'm still profitable, I'm here to assure those who are still holding at much higher levels because they bought in on the hype train that imo it will all work back out soon enough and you can sell at your buy in level or hold like me and make a nice profit. I'm not blind to the other side I can admit that there are things about this company I wish were done differently to this point but I also know what I know and that this is not a scam shell company. Soon enough when everything aligns shom will be a fully reporting company the yield sign will be removed and the stock will reach its ultimate potential. At that point and only then will I finally take a profit. The only question is at what price!