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Vencor. That's the whole point. They make it all. But why are they even making it???? Per their own press release its to fill orders for VEGA BIOFUELS. That's what they said. I understand what your saying about cutting Molen out but if that's the case why partner up with him at all? It has to be a reason. I agree with you about Gaspard, very reputable and I must say what I found on Molen, not so much as far as his past is concerned. But why does that matter? If you believe in Vencor it's silly to not have the same confidence in Vega. At least as of right now. Vencor up until a few months ago was a shell company in a completely different industry itself. Hell mike Molen was standing ceo as late as sept 2 2014. Not claiming I know all the goings on with the two companies but I stand firm on VGPR. Something brewing.
The reseller agreement is with biochar now. That has nothing to do with the sale of the biocoal.
I must admit I have been getting a litte anxious with just the anticipation of what could be. But For the life of me I can't seem to figure out why most can be pro Vencor without having the same enthusiasm about VGPR. Vega has the deals. Vega is the company who has the contracts not Vencor. As of right now Vencor only has capacity to fill the orders that Vega secured. They can't be fraudulent deals because Mr Gaspard and Vencor have openly spoken about filling said orders. And everyone seems to love James Gaspard and think so low of mm. I don't understand. The only way Vcor makes money is if vega closes deals. That's the only way. Anything else is just speculation. Facts are we have deals and if Vencor produces product for OUR deals then why wouldn't both companies experience similar success.
I have no idea. Correct me if I'm wrong but vcor just reduced shares from 5 to 3 billion. Is Vegas a/s not 2 billion? Is that not better? We only differ a couple hundred million in the float. Why does everyone think Vcor share structure is so much better than vgprs....??? Anyone
Looks like their setting up for the perfect storm
You know something I don't?
The only reason the other company is producing is because of the orders Vega has. They have not announced any other deals other than the ones they have for Vega
Why did you ever feel it was a unicorn? Seriously asking....
Lol ain't that crazy....
You do realize the pictures were of Gaspards plant. Molens not lying about doing business with Gaspard. Gaspard says he's doing business with Gaspard. Y the pics didn't come.... Thats thrown me for a loop but still confident
Don't lose faith or speak defeat. No news doesn't mean bad news. Must say I'm disappointed about pics because no one even asked for them Molen brought that up so he should've delivered. Still strong on stock tho. I'd hate to have sold and be on the outside looking in when this one takes off. Had it happen with quantum fuel systems. Sold at .64 then a little under a year later I checked back and it was over 11$. Patience is key. Not ruling out frustrations because they are certainly warranted but frustration is a choice. I chose to wait in peace that's just me. What else is there to do?
It's coming brother
Any word on address
Come on Mike!!!!! You can do it... Let's see that PLANT
True very true.... As I digress
What's more likely that a guy who has the intelligence to at least be aware of a business opportunity of this magnitude let alone position himself, at least on paper, to be a leader in said industry, even if the whole thing is a scam you would have to be somewhat bright to put together something of this magnitude. For him to put out pics from the Vencor site as if they were pics he just took as a ploy to dupe investors seems a little elementary for a man whom is at least competent enough to get our money. It's IMPOSSIBLE to be that stupid and that smart at the same time
I don't think the pics he posted where to trick or deceive anyone. If so why come out and say gallery coming soon. If Molen is stupid enough to not know that ppl would know where the pics came from he's not smart enough to trick anyone into buying into his lies. I mean come on guys. If anything he just posted SOMETHING so ppl would chill out just a little bit until the plant could be posted but obviously, at least on this message board, that wasn't such a good idea. But let's just think rationally here....
Finally some reason
That is definitely understandable on my end. People don't seem to understand with any business there has to be a point in the business where operations are cloudy or not solid. There has to be a point where things are just getting started and the future is unclear. If Vega was already a major business then the opportunity for us to make serious cash would have been passed. But they're not major YET and this is the time where faith and due diligence meets. None of us know exactly how this will play out but with pennies you buy on potential. And this baby has so much potential Its almost a no brainer. Really good chance to be in "one of those stocks" before they take off that ppl talk about
Yeah but that would mean that we actually will be bringing in revenue. Thanks for the update
About the plant address
Do you know where it is now? Did mike ever give you address? Not asking for address just remembered you were invited with no address. Has that changed. Please respond
Official Twitter account??? Lmaoooo
That def is a possibility. But this is not some tech or mining company. With this product They would make so much more if they just tried doing things the right way. Just because business doesn't go as planned doesn't mean there's no business.
I don't know. No one does. No one has personal relationships with either of these men so I don't know. I can only speculate on the limited information I've found. Although FOR ME the reward substantially out ways the risk so here I stand.
But why would Molen run a scam for pennies when alls he has to do is use the machines and make millions. Like I say I understand your concerns but for me I don't see Scam. If Gaspard has the machines all Vega does is sit back and collect money. If Gaspard is real deal I don't see where scam comes in. Gaspard being on Vegas board obviously would be in the loop in all major operations and descions of the company. Why would this honest man set up orders to be filled by a company whose only purpose is to sell shares and scam investors? A company whom if guilty of the accusations, would immediately involve Gaspard because by him being on board he would have had to have some knowledge of dishonesty on Molens side.
I bought March 2013
That's not practical. Don't complicate things. Not saying your concerns aren't valid but if you have so much respect for Gaspard as a professional in this Industry what would make you question his decision to move business operations along with Molen? Would it not be more likely that as of now the listed float is not the most important matter the company is handling? And for whatever reason they haven't gotten around to updating it. Because the truth is if Molen is a fraud, with him being tied directly to Gaspard on two different businesses, that in my eyes would essentially make Gaspard a fraud too. A fraud or just plain incompetent because he allowed a dishonest man into his business. But I believe Gaspard is more than qualified to take his company where it needs to be. Molen is an extension of Gaspard
All knowledge is good knowledge. Initiative is what I'm praising. Maybe if ppl actually took initiative instead of looking at price maybe some of their fears would subside.
Good dd
Buyout by whom?
Why give him bullshit to worry about? If anything your actions will only prolong what's trying to get done here. Stop being a baby. Give it one more week. Don't sabotage your own stock.
I don't think this guy mm is that stupid. He would have to be brain dead to be guilty of this type of fraud. There is no way he is that smart and that dumb at the same time.
Hopefully he will come through with gallery. One more week.... If there happened to be a plant do you think your opinion about operations would change
That's what I'm saying! Some of you all have been here since 2010! And we now are at the put up or shut up point. You've waited this long and in a week you will know either way! If it's a scam then we lost but if Molen is even remotely doing what he says then at .10 I'll have 1 million dollars. I'm not old like some of you guys im a young buck and at just .05 cents that would be more than enough for me to start a life and family on. But if it's actually real, the company I mean, .05 cents is a joke. If Molen and Gaspard have a system in place to sell biocoal AND biochar then we'll be lookin more like 50$ instead of .05 cents
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If this ever comes together it means money. I personally just don't believe it's a fraud. Because that is THE ONLY way money is not made. Of course it's not going as planned but what does. If any solid development comes out ( like a plant producing product) then this takes off.
What qualifies you as intelligent? And someone else as not? Anyone that has to announce how smart they are, probably aren't that smart at all. I know if I had classified info about a company I wouldn't post anything about it until I knew it was final. Because I understand that if for whatever reason the company doesn't come through on whatever they privately told me then I would more than likely lose all credibility with whomever I told the premature information to and if it was on a forum such as this it could obviously negatively effect the way others on the forum viewed the stock. That has nothing to do with intelligence that is common sense. But I guess common sense ain't that common. Because it is a mistake you continue to make.