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i agree but the stock has already proven to be capible of going well over 10 cents, pathetic yes, but way better than we have seen of late
i agree, but the law is slow compared to these crappers especially given that it seems that this has been planned out so carefully, cleary its in desmond and kyles nature to do either, cut and run, or stay the course and to try to do something no matter how pathetic and crooked it might be. my guess is the latter, hopefully from this day forward, less crooked and pathetic than we have alreay seen, if so the stock will rise considerably
yes the cards we have been delt are smeared with drago, desmonds, and carlos' fecies, but if you are asking me not to play a full house, i will have to be a dissapointment
ok strong SPECULATIVE buy, as for killing the company, it happened a long time ago when they put desmond reid on the board, this is the train arriving at the station after several trips around the world, this was always the destination, i had calls from people laughing at me of how great kyle was for the company all i every said was "i sure hope you are right but i will never believe it", however, clearly they are in charge and all the belly aching will do nothing for our investment, i agree w/ every bad thing anyone has every said about management except one thing, that the company cannot survive the loss of dave williams, it may not, that is certainly true, but its not set in stone yet, not by any means, the company is bigger than dave, kyle, ed, cristian, carlos, george, richard, drago etc. the patent is worth more than any of these people, (not sure its fair to call them all such, but not sure its right not to either), the patent will survive, and i still hold hope that so will we, for some that put all their faith in dave this is no doubt investors darkest hour, but what ever the board was deadlocked against will be at least temporarly lifted because dave is out, and like it or not the tea leaves are clear, that its already happened.
don't hate the messenger, and btw i dont talk to kyle dewine drago, etc. im just reading the tea leaves, that is all, i could very well be wrong, but if i had to bet my life i'd say drago knows all and that is why we have heard from him
ok dewine, final four, or whoever you are of, if it does not happen, then it does not happen, they will probably wait untill the vote is finalized, but finalization and knowing the outcome are two different things
STRONG BUY, either kick yourself or thank me later
my guess is that williams will eventually see it, that's as far out as i'm willing to go, the company is being advised by dewine now and others, remember ben lurkin was asked to address the bogus russian assessment and to publish an 8k, he did not, then when the company was delisted, that lack of disclosure was insinuated by the sec. we heard nothing then, we will hear nothing now, but there will be indirect validation soon that will satisfy all investors (that is satisfy them that the drago deal is done), personally i don't need that to know that dave is out for the time being
the bar for getting williams out is very high, clearly drago has signaled that they, to my dismay, have acheived it, however i do look forward to making money, it certainly can't get any worse, i think w/ the proxy, its going to be impossible to get the company into a receivership and that we will see a general shareholder meeting eventually...
its not the shareholders, they stepped up and made the document exchange happen
i realize that but its done, williams may even be able to force himself back on the board--more power to him, i would support and embrace it, but its clear, from the drago quote, that they have the vote, its been indirectly communicated, insinuated, however you would like to put it, dave is out, its time to move on
i'm not telling people not to vote, NO WAY, but i am forcasting what HAS already happened based on what i believe the drago quote actually means
drago has told us that williams is out, i don't like it but i am sure desmond and kyle will push hard against the att tmobile merger as will all other small and medium and large telco's and para telco's, hence there will be lots of licensing of handsets, if you add the vacation of drago's case to whatever we get from tmobile you get 100,000,000 + of value from the tmobile deal no matter how small--the company was in diuress--so nobody can use that, a less than optimal tmobile deal--to devalue the patent
the company is a strong buy--given that drago has endorsed the deal, i'd say its done, further, america is the key market, there is no doubt about that
I believe dave williams will see the drago deal, but as for us, i don't care if i do as long as the company moves foreward,
w/ drago out of the way the flood gates will finly open, it may not be the nile or the hoover dam, but there will be deals now, tons of em and the stock will be over a buck soon, the financials will come out, they have no choice,
we all know that this was a sleezy affair, but its always been a sleezy affair, ever since people started shaking hands w/ drago and carlos and yet tons of people have supported the company despite knowing drago had a judgment against the company, despite carlos being a sleeze, and regardless of what anyone says, kyle and desmond and cristian will be far better for shareholders than drago and carlos
calypso is now a strong buy,
drago has indirectly said williams is out--im personally sad to see him go and to see kyle and desmond replace him. but its time to move foreward and play the hand we have been delt and to realize that this is much better than many other possible alternatives
"12/06/2011 at 08:30 am in Department 85, James C. Chalfant, Presiding
Exparte proceeding - Denied "
there is some hope then?
read elis's post, it seems to indicate that williams ex-parte motion was denied
any guesses as to what state waldo will show up next?
as long as they don't get a quorum williams should be ok, but it looks like shareholders got the shaft on the ex-parte hearing yesterday, now what?
I agree, its obvious from the latest sightings of the old scums that have imbued us with their foulness that things are not going as planned
how, if the settlement is signed how can dave affect anything other what is ahead, it does not make sense, therefor you are not telling the whole truth, or possibly even a part truth,
todw is a manefestation of dewine, drago, and desmond,
i cant wait to throw you all into my spatoon
the filings made it clear that williams wants a 5th director assigned to the bod, that will end the deadlock i dont see that he has changed his position on that issue. Which means that hopefully sooner than later we will have a new director--especially if dave williams stays in-this vote is ment to circumvent the appointment of a new director, dave is just a convenient target toward that end
since you have stated on this board that you seek to have your contract renewed w/ the company, then i think you need to tell us if you have done so and keep this forum informed since you appear to be representing the company
this post better not be deleted
my knee jerk reaction is keep anyone named richard off of the board--in general to think being suckered is a sure sign of someone that would stand up to management simply does not pass muster, history has proved otherwise,
small companies can do best for investors if they have a board that works, that is not necessarily a board that a priori investors will "like",
nothing against newbold however, i just don't know, and right now don't care
one thing is for sure, once this power struggle ends, if the company has any value left, a lot of investors will be left out in the cold, meaning 1/2 of the so called "insiders" will no longer be able to talk to their contacts on the board since their contacts will no longer be part of the comnpany.
clearly it seems there must have been a point where the board made a split and management and independent directors contensions reached a threshold value, maybe it was over the offering?
I'd rather "rewind" the bogus crap than "unwind" it, management is doing a pathetic job for shareholders, all their actions are so highly accentuated that this is more sureal than real...here in calypso land characters are more akin to one's "made up" from a writers mind than anything else. sadly their value to shareholders is also made up, its time, just like stephen j cannel production logo's that appeared at the end of his various episodes, to take the paper out of the typewriter and extrude this pos's
All good points, it seems dave taught too much to the weezles in the first place
ok, so there is a deal, with who? diac and or tmobile? if its w/ tmobile, what you call a deal is just a rejected offer by the bod, calling it a "deal" is a lie and a deception and you are part of that deception knowingly or not if you call what ever may have transpired between management and tmobile a "deal"
and of course the director kyle chose was independent? please spare us, but since you will never go please show a quote of his full contract
they needed an additional 20G's? for what!, what they spent in the first place could have paid for the documents, which the shareholder's paid, why don't the shareholders pay the 20,000? oh wait drago's a shareholder...
anything they accept from drago is akin to an unethical / criminal action especially if it relates to the appointment of a director
Just say you are a big C and support kyle because she is the same, you would be much more convincing
yes, you stop bludgening the baby seals when the mama seal threatens you
very frankly, someone is going into the spatoon...and i don't know who
seeing the carnival like atmosphere being generated by the clown-bafoons that suport desmond and kyle on the BOD, i will not shead a tear when the angry mob feels so betrayed that they go after their home in studio city,
in fact i will be overjoyed at seeing the outcome of idiots and being able to come back here and post an "i told you so",
one thing that drago has done more than anything is boost my ego at being able to predict the fools.
Ive seen so many come and go with this company that it's ammounted to one big ego trip and a very interesting study in the human condition
thank you for all the fodder.
Inspite of everything, drago, kyle and desmond have not betrayed investors, there has never been any representation that they have given other than what we see now,
yes they have screwed investors, but anyone with their eyes open should have known that all along; kyle is just being kyle, desmond is just being desmond, and drago is just being drago--nothing and nobody has changed
Yes dave willimas screwed up big time, if he should be voted out its for picking kyle and suffering other fools so long, the obvious irony is that by voting him out you are saying he has never made any mistakes
its kyle's "feud"iciary duty to comply with the independent directors if they call a vote to consider turinni. further turinni must abstain from that vote, so it would be either to williams or walsh to vote him in or out.
this is amatuer night all the way, the announcement of a settlement, the shareholder forum, and now this bogus vote. I don't care how much pressure drago has put everyone under, somethings are just inexcusable
a criminal attorney at justanswer says...
Turinni is ok as long as the BOD accepts it
http://www.justanswer.com/criminal-law/4h5em-convicted-felon-bank-fraud-officer-ceo.html
the purse snatching of mrs. kim
the kims are huge investors in clyw, they put in way more money that dave and most others, and this is how management, turinni and desmond/droy/kyle appear to be repaying them:
I bid you farewell once again, all this crap, i just don't have time for it, never did, thankfully sir hig did (even though it was a farce thanks to kyle), at one point had there been a real commitment to point to, i might have but as then and now i have things pulling me in all directions no thanks to the people that never listen untill its too late, perhaps things might have different had i had more time but then again probably not, teamwork has its golden hour, 10 years ago and at various intervals since then--its a curse being the smart one especially when there is such a gap between one and everyone else
dave and you know this too all too well...
I believe that if dave wins there are immediate measures he will become entitled to to eliminate kyle unless she puts herself up for a vote as well
does anyone know the law on this?
all you want is mediocraty, that may be better than nothing, but i seriously doubt it, and seriously doubt that is the only choice for calypso
i do concur, this is train wreck in the making both conductors are a sleap and nothing we can do will wake them, not the best analogy but schematically correct from a temporal perspective
drago is better off fighting w/ williams over whatever it is than to trust kyle and desmond to accomplish the slightest thing, drago knows turinni very well, he also knows richard, there is only one person on that board that is hard nosed as he is for money, and that's dave williams, and during the moment of truth, he might just suprise everyone, if willims is ratified, i expect he will bring this company back from the brink in short order but by the same tolken drago will be free and clear either way
any deal short of $10,000,000 is not going to be sufficent to prevent kyle desmond and cristian from burning through it w/ no benefit to the shareholders, that is a fact, and hence i'd say that as a nusence the company is in trouble without an "angel investor" like dave to step-in and help the company, the way i see it the choice is clear:
dave williams = $$ >> $$$$$$-$$$$$ ~ 0*
that is the simple math of it dollars - dollars (that is dollars minus dollars) do not ammount to a hill of beans as compared with someone w/ a track record of putting money into the company
a bird in hand is worth two in the bush, the saying could never be more aprapo, kyle and desmond are your two in the bush, dave is sharehodlers bird in hand, whatever is deadlocking the BOD is proof of that.
* ">>" mean much greater than, as in x >> y means x "much greather than" y
turinni is not the main problem, desmond reid, aka droy, and kyle pierce are, i don't care how mad carlos is at turinni, everyone needs to understand that desmond and kyle, based on the deadlock, have betrayed shareholders, they were once like us, so was dave, cristian never was, therefore the standard is highest for dave, ed, kyle and droy. clearly dave and ed haven't forgotton (for the most part) where they are from, kyle and droy clearly have--or else they would be voting with the independent directors.
I truly would rip on sharma if i thought it would help the company, he's too popular an authority figure to ever get through, no doubt he has great credentials but too much points to a deadlock relating to the tmobile deal, if sharma were all that there would be no deadlock and whatever problem that exists would have been solved--but there is a deadlock and it would never be over getting too much money, only the opposite therefore sharma did not solve the problem
the fact is, you need someone that can say, as they burn their own calculation that they don't care that sharma can't do it, this is easy for them, and that it is tough beans that they cannot, sharma can't do it, and there are people walking around that can, and that makes him sick--i don't care if sharma is sick or storm or markel, but desmond reid cannot be allowed to get credit that he does not deserve unless he can help the company deal w/ the problem that is deadlocking the board.
That no one is helping the weezle is his problem and the bod's, but they are deadlocked so no one is going to step in and help solve the problems that sharma clearly cannot deal with sufficently
desmond reid's minions, that's all you are, its clear to me that he is very much the inside man and that kyle and himself have tried to foster a community of "followers", people that are easily swayed by people that don't know what they are doing because they appear to have some kind of power, namely that they run the company, you didn't see "friends" of turinni at the shereholder meeting, only indepdents and people of kyle and desmond.
years ago, desmond aka droy, was one of you, following every word of alicia at calypso and telling everyone no no no (because i'm desmond and my arrogance says) she wouldn't lie to me. Now people told them otherwise even kyle, now you are in their shoes but its worse because there is some history between them and many here so people are more apt to believe them
The bottom line is this, as soon as kyle got on the board, desmond went after plaintiff to undermine dave williams, this is recorded on this message board these are the facts, if anyone here says that this is because of dave willims being an azz, look again at how plaintiff came at desmond aka droy
again this is not because of dave, it began far before the board fell apart back when they were unified against drago, desmond and kyle were plotting against dave williams, this message board chronicals that as the truth, this is not insider information, this is the real history of calypso wireless and the controversy between kyle desmond and dave williams
those that don't remember history are doomed to repeat it, remember getting fed info by desmond about alicia, and the 'no no no's' to your skepticism? you are all right back where you were before and don't even know it and heck don't even care any more
Its personally painfull for me to see the stock so low, and i would love to see it go up, it just might, but to even do a deal and do this to dave before relisting the stock is a fool's errand
I HAVE NO FAITH IN KYLE AND DESMOND BEING ABLE TO GET STRONG DEALS FOR THE COMPANY, AND IN MY IMPRESSION ARE DESPERATE TO GET A DEAL.
it should be obvious to all that the deal w/ drago was not primarily linked to ousting dave williams or they would have moved for a vote earlier, rather its linked to something else logic dictates that that that something is tmobile,
what could "it" mean otherwise if both Ed Walsh and Dave Williams don't want to vote for whatever it is? Both directors in question are indipendent and in different parts of the country, Ed is an Ex Special Forces, does anyone really think that he would let dave williams sway him with anything less than the truth?
funny how you mention microsoft and not tmobile, freudian slip, just who are you?
As much as i hate to admit it, yes and for dave williams / against kyle pierce, that's my opinion, maybe latter i will tell all, but right now I will sit back and watch the sparks fly
pansies? ever been in an operating room? seen a dr loose their cookies because someone does something that's about to kill the patient?, someone that knows abolutely nothing about how what they did could affect things? someone that knows absolutely nothing about what to do to prevent the patient from dying?
a vote for kyle / vote against dave is like saying you are for that somebody who screwed up and that the patient deserves to die because the dr who's trying to stop it yelled at the perpertrator
yes on lookers, if dave williams bothers you (not initially in a knee-jerk way, but after making a very considered decision), you are either a con or a pansy
yes i agree, it takes time to get used to the force of change via the force of anger, its not easy to deal with,
and dave is not perfect, but he knows rip-offs better than the guy that tried to warn everyone about bernie madoff,
so sit around, w/ your pansy, "its just not right that he yelled at you rose colored glasses" and let kyle fool the money right out of your pockets and into drago's and tmobiles
bottom line is that longs against dave williams want this company to be a stunted little creature with no bark and no bite that is easily cast aside with absolutely no prowes whatsoever
worse than castorating the company, they want it to convert it
its the pansy looser way that they choose to shove down shareholders throats, and i pin it all on kyle
when we cast our vote, it will not just be for dave williams but against kyle pierce