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TECHNOLOGY JUNE 8, 2009 China Squeezes PC Makers
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By LORETTA CHAO
BEIJING -- China plans to require that all personal computers sold in the country as of July 1 be shipped with software that blocks access to certain Web sites, a move that could give government censors unprecedented control over how Chinese users access the Internet.
The government, which has told global PC makers of the requirement but has yet to announce it to the public, says the effort is aimed at protecting young people from "harmful" content. The primary target is pornography, says the main developer of the software, a company that has ties to China's security ministry and military.
China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology didn't respond to requests for comment.
The Chinese government has a history of censoring a broad range of Web content. The new requirement could force PC manufacturers to choose between refusing a government order in a major market or opening themselves to charges of abetting censorship.
The software needn't be preinstalled on each new PC -- it may instead be shipped on a compact disc -- giving users some choice. But if installed, foreign industry officials who have examined the software say, it could transmit personal information, cause PCs to malfunction, and make them more vulnerable to hacking. It also makes it difficult for users to tell what exactly is being blocked, officials say.
China Journal
World of Warcraft on Hiatus in China Closed for Business: More Chinese Web Sites Twitter Goes Down in China A spokeswoman for Hewlett-Packard Co., which has the largest PC market share of any U.S. vendor in China, said the company is "working with the government authorities and evaluating the best way to approach this. Obviously we will focus on delivering the best customer experience while ensuring that we meet necessary regulatory requirements."
Susan Stevenson, spokeswoman for the U.S. Embassy in Beijing, said the embassy was studying the new rule to assess its impact. "We would view any attempt to restrict the free flow of information with great concern and as incompatible with China's aspirations to build a modern, information-based economy and society," she said.
The software's Chinese name is "Green Dam-Youth Escort." The word "green" in Chinese is used to describe Web-surfing free from pornography and other illicit content. Green Dam would link PCs with a regularly updated database of banned sites and block access to those addresses, according to an official who tested the product for a government agency.
The May 19 Chinese government notice about the requirement says it is aimed at "constructing a green, healthy, and harmonious Internet environment, and preventing harmful information on the Internet from influencing and poisoning young people."
The software was developed by Jinhui Computer System Engineering Co., with input from Beijing Dazheng Human Language Technology Academy Co.
Bryan Zhang, founder of Jinhui, said Green Dam operates similarly to software designed outside China to let parents block access to Web content inappropriate for children. Some computers sold in China already come with parental-control software, but it isn't government-mandated.
Mr. Zhang said his company compiles and maintains the list of blocked sites, which he says is limited to pornography sites. He said the software would allow the blocking of other types of content, as well as the collection of private user data, but that Jinhui would have no reason to do so. He also said the software can be turned off or uninstalled.
His company plans to transmit new banned addresses to users' PCs through an Internet update system similar to that used by operating-system software and antivirus programs.
The software requirement was outlined in a notice that was issued by China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology on May 19 but that hasn't yet been publicized by state media. The notice, a copy of which was seen by The Wall Street Journal, says PC makers must ship PCs to be sold in China as of July 1 with the Green Dam software "preloaded" -- pre-installed or enclosed on a CD.
The notice says PC producers will be required to report to the government how many PCs they have shipped with the software. The notice doesn't mention any punitive action for noncompliance.
Sales of PCs in China neared 40 million units last year, second only to the U.S. Chinese company Lenovo Group Ltd. had the largest market share, with 26.7% of units shipped in the first three months of 2009, while H-P had 13.7% and Dell Inc. had 8.1%, according to research firm IDC.
Manufacturers have more than just sales in China to consider when the government asks them to do something: Major PC companies also have investments in factories and research facilities in China.
Dell declined to comment on the software. Lenovo said, "We review all legislation relating to our business," and didn't comment further.
Foreign industry officials say companies have been given little time to properly test Green Dam. "The lack of transparency, the shortness of time for implementation, and the incredible scope of the requirement that is not matched anywhere around the world present tremendous challenges to the industry," said an industry official who has discussed the plans with several major PC makers.
China already operates an extensive Internet filtering system, commonly called the Great Firewall, which blocks access to a range of content, from pornography to politically sensitive sites. Such sites have included those promoting Tibetan independence and the spiritual group Falun Gong; in specific circumstances the government has blocked access to foreign media sites.
But that system blocks content at the network level, and many users circumvent it. The new method could give the government a way to tighten its control, say foreign industry officials who have examined the software.
Having one universal application that opens a link into every computer could also make those computers more vulnerable to cyber attacks. Mr. Zhang said that the software is no riskier than other programs that are updated periodically through the Internet.
Moreover, Green Dam, which is designed to work with Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating system, could also conflict with other applications, causing glitches or even system crashes, industry officials said.
Wu Weiwei, an official from the government's China Software Testing Center who oversaw testing of the software, said extensive tests of the software have shown no problems.
U.S. Internet companies have for years grappled with demands from the Chinese government to censor content or share potentially private data with police.
Several of the biggest -- including Google Inc., Yahoo Inc. and Microsoft -- joined together last October to announce a set of guidelines for how they would comply with censorship requests from countries such as China, including a promise to be transparent about the requests they receive. But the effort, known as the Global Network Initiative, was criticized by some civil-liberties groups as being short on specifics and not doing enough to fight censorship laws. No computer hardware makers are members of the group.
A Yahoo spokeswoman said that the company would "continue to analyze international developments that may impact our industry." "We strongly support the free flow of information and the right to freedom of expression," she said.
Jinhui's Web site said it has a long-term "strategic cooperative partnership" with a research institute of the Ministry of Public Security on image-recognition technology, as well as long-term "technical cooperation" with the People's Liberation Army's Information Engineering University.
Mr. Zhang said Jinhui has only worked with the Ministry of Public Security on issues concerning pornography.
The Web site of Dazheng, the other software company involved in developing Green Dam, says the company works with the Armored Engineering Institute of the People's Liberation Army, and that it helped the PLA in 2005 produce a system to intercept "confidential" documents.
Wang Jingcheng, deputy general manager of Dazheng, said the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology has "strict regulations and forbids all software companies from collecting any personal information." He added that the software will block content "according to the law."
—Kersten Zhang, Justin Scheck and Nick Wingfield contributed to this article.
A surprise? Are you kidding? I would have been dumbfouded if it didn't happen. Been Watching and Holding Stock for 10 years know. This is 1 of the reasons I have been pushing people to take profits and trade non-core holdings despite being Bashed for doing so.
Looks like we are UNDER a $1 just moments past the wire. STRANGE isn't it?
Michael Sprague is he on the Wave Payroll now that TvTonic is gone?
China looks to be Waves biggest customer with all those filters they are imposing on manufacturers of PC starting with Lenovo, HP and Dell. Might be kidding but this is Tomorrow's big PC HEADLINE.
What day do we meet requirement to relist?
The Big Vegas names will Rocket with Online Gaming approval. Skeptics will trust MGM, Las Vegas Sands, Wynn.
Shelley silver not going to let it Happen.
How do you know it is a Base? is this just your opinion or fact?
Wore my Red corporate one in Princeton Sat. after Strawberry picking at Terhune Orchards, not one strange look or back slap.
Didn't Buy anything today at the low as I am looking for a price. BUT I will not be afraid to commit MY OWN MONEY @ $5 or $10 as I have stated. IF and a Big IF we Happen I will certainly be happy getting $90 for MY OWN MONEY instead of $98.66
And I was wrong just as many BULLS here have been wrong also, but my agenda is Free shares on fundamentals which we don't have. We have Dot's T's and lot's of promises not met yet. This story is not over so I will continue to gather free shares whenever possible.
Yes to take profits when you can and buy Free shares just as I have over the last couple of Years. Many people I know here have simply bought and held waiting for the Miracle. I learned my lesson with this stock years ago. it is still a worthwhile investment with limited personal funds. I wish that more than the 5 other board members here that I know also held mucho free shares. Nothing wrong with a profit and IF this is as I ALWAYS STATE the Stock to own for the future there is nothing wrong with Buying it at $3, $5 or even $10(newbies don't forget the reverse split).
Take profits up 33%+ in couple of days. You will be able to get back in under $1 by 6/10. JMHO
Also I don't think stock will dip below .85 over next 3 month's.
Not the only Military Move we have made-We shall see but i would like him to PUT UP HIS OWN MONEY not Mine.
Posted by: howardjoel Date: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:08:29 PM
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In June 2004 SKS attended this Org. meeting with a Ron Oxley on his arm as a consultant(I assume PAID consultant) We haven't heard much since.
http://www.eapartnership.org/docs/020705_NR_Board_election.doc
Ron Oxley: http://www.jsapartners.com/index.htm
Bio: Ronald S. Oxley
Ron Oxley has more than 35 years of senior level experience in private industry and U.S. Government service
Mr. Oxley served as President and General Manager of L-3 Communications Analytics Corp and of Emergent Information Technologies
Successfully integrated five acquisitions and divested commercial sector operations
Boosted performance through increasing revenues and win-rates, improving utilization and achieving significant cost reductions
Before joining Emergent, Mr. Oxley spent four years at Litton PRC, where he held a series of senior level marketing positions
Mr. Oxley served the U.S. Government as an executive for 28 years.
Held positions in the Army, Navy, Air Force and the Office of the Secretary of Defense
Most recent 11 years were as a Senior Executive at OSD, with responsibilities that included development and implementation of a defense-wide plan for C4ISR, reengineering and downsizing of major processes and activities, and establishing a C2 infrastructure which permits interoperability
Education
B.S., California State University, Sacramento
M.S., University of Southern California
Ihope he serves with no Pay and buys a couple Hundred thousand shares to show his Faith. JMHO
$50,000,001 next. One upgrade at a time.
I agree 10000% with you, But just as Moses was not allowed to cross over the River we need someone to Monetize this Company as we move into the land of profitability.
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"A year and a half ago there was nothing in the high tech magazines etc regarding FDE or the TPM now it's written about everyday,"
Just you Love reading all those Praises of Wave within those articles, maybe 1 mention out of 100 if we're Lucky. We need better PR and a more effective manager.
Because He's 4x's Smarter than Kenneth Plotkin?
How about those who bought for $5-8 afraid to sell because tomorrow IT's Coming and now it's .25cents and Still Coming.
Nearly 9 years ago I asked SKS at a SHM about taking out a Full Page Ad for $100k to let the World know about us. I posted this on 1 of our many threads back then. He answered that he wasn't ready. Then over the years we have been fed some Mumbo Jumbo about not preaching our virtues because we didn't want to upstart our Gorilla benefactors. I say we get out the War Wagon, spend whatever we have left on PR and see where the Orders Fall. We are either FLUFF OR FABRIC. Just because we don't think the CEO is not up to the task of taking us to the next level, We still have a product that could do a Lot of Damage out there and make many of us Alot of Money. I say it's time for SKS to move up to Chairman of the Board and get us a real Exec.
JMHO
I hold a large position also but feel a Change of Leadership will enhance it's value. It is time for a proven Tech CEO.
On Very High Volume for Wavx
.70 cents 1.4M sh
How much of the $4M was a result of the Dell repricing agreement vs. new sales? TIA
Why not. Close to 42% were over the 4.0M by at least 10% vs 29% who thought it would be lower than 4.0M but we do not know how much lower they fiqured.
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Weby yes I do want cheap trading stock as I have posted in the past . I have my base which is free but if the new admin. does not get aboard by Q2 2010 we are finished. By then SKS will have gone to the banks as a last resort. JMHO Happy Passover and Easter and any other holidays falling now to all board members.
Isn't .50 the key pricing point Wave MUST HOLD?
Your would think with the Push into Electonic Medical records by the new Admin. that companies like Cern, Mckesson or CPSI would look to do a lttle business with Wave.
I will be able to buy more at that price in the short term for a trade. The purpose of the post was in reaction to the Rah Rah on the board on the few times we have gone UP in a Very Bad market. I know 4 people who have bought into Wave in the last 15 month's and they don't know our history. While doing their DD I aleted them to the fact that their are some good posters on this Board whether I agree with them or not. Have met alot of nice folks at the SHM's.
Biggest day in close to 1 1/2 years and wave does $10k for less than 20kshares traded. Will buy again cheap in high 20(cents)
As someone used to pound the table here would tell us...WHERES THE VOLUMN?
Slider if you don't think being able to buy Wave at $5.00 a share isn't an opportunity then you shouldn't be pushing this stock. If we eventually hit, this is MSFT 2000 ###'s otherwise Linen's and Things 2008. JMHO
Talking Head Media Guy on TV(John Stewart show) couple of days ago talking about Micro-Payments for online articles, as newspapers are dying. When JS quipped in with his charm he was rebuffed that after years and years of spreading tales alas the Gettenberg printing press came about.
Micro Payment brought me to the door 10 springs ago and still fell it has great value for this companym maybe say goodbye to signonline and put notary capability into system.
"I am sure that if he knew this would happen, he probably would not have participated"
RIGHT!!! He may or may not be attemping to SECURE this company at a very cheap price. He is worried about Wavoid postings. This is just as relevant as any " i know a guy who knows a guy who's wife has a friend that works in a smelting plant that supplies Intel......
His wife's name is on a LEGAL WAVE RELATED DOCUMENT in the PUBLIC DOMAIN. His choice not OURS.