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i sat on the ask for several hours the other day. do you have it all or nothing?
Hawker Beechcraft issues PR
Makes me sick
We need to stand up against this crap
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hawker-beechcraft-issues-statement-on-2012-state-of-the-union-address-2012-01-25
I've posted a lot about the propaganda that HBC has been spinning. They are even having people call into radio talk shows, unfortunately the hosts have been eating it up.
we should start out own information campaign. There are many blogs re-posting the HBC talking points. We should be flooding the comment boards with the other point of view.
1. HBC is owned by Goldman Sachs (the people who brought us the financial crisis) and a Canadian company.
2. HBC has been moving their factories to Mexico.
3. The contract was for a production plane, not a prototype aircraft which HBC submitted.
4. HBC was given notice and time to respond, but HBC misplaced the notification and chose to wait over 2 weeks to respond.
I will dig up more points when I have time.
They still fly F-100s? wow.
I doubt we will hear anything until the court case has been decided.
if it goes you may need to change your name to slowprops
Agreed, so in the meantime I continue to load up.
You keep posted up top and I will keep digging.
Welcome to TADF
read post 12565 for guestimations based on industry averages
then read post 13565 to get an idea of what this contract could be
then read post 13571 to see examples on the size of other contracts of this type
read all the info in the ibox to get an idea on the chances of this happening
WOW. Great find Junebug.
excellent!
Oh man this is good reading
LOL @
I hope he just doesn't tow the party line.
A lot of politics in this one. Most have nothing to do with jobs.
I agree.
May be time for a TADF/TACAIR truth campaign for ourselves. If Hawker Beechcraft with FOXNEWS help turns this around in favor of HBC based on false and misleading information, all of us here will miss out.
Judging by the title of the report
Why did they go outside the U.S.?
I would imagine they are regurgitating the Hawker Beechcraft propaganda campaign about buying American.
Even when Hawker Beechcraft is Canadian owned and has been moving it's factories to Chihuahua Mexico. Embraer winning will create just as many jobs here in the US, Jacksonville Florida to be exact.
What this comes down too is Kansas fighting for it's life. Hawker Beechcraft has been moving it's factories to Mexico and Boeing has announced they are leaving Wichita as well. They are pulling out all the stops in trying to win this contract.
All it will do is put money into Gerry Schwartz's pocket.
Less than $3 worth.
I think once TADF cracks into the market, there will be many more opportunities.
Also glad you noticed that info, the big company sub-contracts out to smaller companies
Pilot training contract examples - IMPROVED
Raytheon wins $42 million contract to train Afghan Air Force pilots
http://www.raytheon.com/newsroom/technology/idex2011/pilot/
worth $42 million over 3 years
TADF - The growing market
Afghan Air Force Learns To Fly _ And Fix Aircraft
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=145380658
Locations of everything
Upper left hand corner are the offices of SNC, TADF and TACAIR
The middle blue locator is the last known location of the Super T
Bottom right locator is Clovis, the location where the Super T training will take place
almost a straight line and the plane is almost exactly half way
How large the contract will be
The entire contract is worth $355 million for 20 planes.
link to one on many sources for this info
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/super-tucano-wins-usaf-order-but-hawker-beechcraft-launches-challenge-366450/
Each plane is said to cost $10.63 million.
link to price info here
http://www.aircraftcompare.com/helicopter-airplane/Embraer-EMB-314-Super-Tucano/110
20 planes x $10.63 million each = $212,600,000
355,000,000 - 212,600,000 = 142,000,000
that's $142 million for other stuff besides the planes.
The other stuff includes
good morning party people
This is why I posted the link to the FAA. Only one Super T listed for the US. 150 is the number of Super T's worldwide.
To help you, here is the results link for the FAA make/model search (EMB-314 = Super T)
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/AcftRef_Results.aspx?Mfrtxt=&Modeltxt=EMB-314B1&PageNo=1
as you can see only one shows up
As for your 150 in use ... another link
http://www.airforce-technology.com/news/newsembraer-snc-to-deliver-super-tucano-aircraft-to-usaf/
which states
bios of the players
as you can see, thousands and thousands of hours of flight time and a lot of instructor experience.
ON THE TADF SIDE
Mike “Ratso” Cariello, Chief Operating Officer
Mr. Cariello is one of the most renowned pilots to have served in the U.S. military in recent decades. He has flown civilian and military aircraft for over 30 years, and has accumulated over 9,000 flight-hours, mostly in high performance jet fighters such as, F/A-18, F-16, A-4 Skyhawk. Mr. Cariello has a distinguished career having served in the U.S. Marine Corp for some 14 years. He retired from the Marine Corps in 1998 following his 3 year appointment as Adversary Officer at the Top Gun Fighter Weapons School for the Navy and Marine Corps. Mr. Cariello has also served as the 767 Program Manager and Pilot for Blackwater Inc., one of the largest U.S. Defense contractors in Iraq from July 2005 through December 2007.
ON THE TACAIR SIDE
Rolland C. “R.C.” Thompson PRESIDENT / CEO
Prior to founding Tactical Air Support, RC worked in the government contracting industry for three years. He also served 26 years in the U.S. Navy and four years in the Army. Some of his many assignments and positions included: “Exec” to the Commander, U.S. Strategic Command; Commander of an Operational Carrier Air Wing and the Strike Warfare Commander for Operation Enduring Freedom; Commanding Officer of TOPGUN; Director of Training at the Naval Strike and Air Warfare Center (NSAWC); Operational Command of an FA-18 squadron; and a tour of duty as a Deputy Director on the Navy Staff dealing with fleet requirements and the budget process. His aviation experience also includes two instructor tours at the Navy Fighter Weapons School (Top Gun) and over 6500 total flight hours to include 5500 in fighter aircraft, 1200 carrier landings while achieving full qualifications in the FA-18, F-14, F-16, A-7, A-4, and AH-1, with additional experience in the L-29, Mig-17/21 and Mig-29. RC was designated an Army Aviator at the age of 19 and has completed three combat deployments since that time. RC earned a BS degree in Aeronautics from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, MS in National Security Strategy from the National War College and an EMBA from the University of Nebraska.
Gerald S. “Spud” Gallop COO
Gerry is currently serving as the Chief Operating Officer at TacAir, responsible for overseeing the contract execution and marketing of the company’s Air Operations, Consulting, and Maintenance Divisions. Since the fall of 2003, Gerry has also served as a military analyst supporting Navy strike-fighter tactics development at NAS Fallon and NAWC China Lake. His flying responsibilities have included extensive over-water fleet support operations in the L-29s, and in 2008 was one of the first two western civilian pilots to become fully IP qualified in the Sukhoi Su-27.
Prior to his work at TacAir, Gerry served as the Director of Tactical Air Services at Advanced Training Solutions International (ATSI) in Phoenix, Arizona. In that role, he supervised all aspects of a 10-aircraft flight department, supplying adversary services to the U.S. Navy, Air Force and Canadian Forces.
His military career in aircraft carrier fighter aviation spanned twenty years, following graduation from the United States Naval Academy in 1980. His operational assignments included pilot tours aboard four different aircraft carriers, flying F-4 Phantoms, F-14 Tomcats, and the FA-18 Hornet. He served as the commanding officer of a fleet Hornet squadron, the head of the Navy Fighter Weapons School (TOPGUN), and supervised graduate-level carrier air wing training and the Helicopter Training Division as well.
Rick Seley DIRECTOR OF MAINTENANCE
Rick became Director of Maintenance for TAC AIR in March, 2008 after a 34-year military and civilian career in all levels of tactical aircraft maintenance. Since retiring from the US Navy in 1995, Rick has held management and business development positions in contract maintenance with aviation industry leaders such as Boeing, L-3 Vertex Aerospace and Raytheon Aerospace. As Maintenance Manager for Boeing’s maintenance contract at the Naval Strike and Air Warfare Center (NSAWC), Rick was responsible for the production efforts of over 200 civilian mechanics maintaining more than 40 tactical aircraft including F-14, F-16, FA-18 fighter jets and H-60 helicopters.
Rick’s 21-year military career included 11 years as an enlisted avionics technician maintaining F-14 weapons systems. After receiving his commission as an officer, he served as the Maintenance/Material Control Officer of Air Test and Evaluation Squadron FOUR and Fighter Squadron ONE. During his final tour on active duty, he served as Wing Maintenance Officer and T-45 Project Officer for Training Wing ONE in Meridian, MS, where he managed over 300 contract personnel maintaining over 150 aircraft.
Archie Rippeto DIRECTOR OF FLIGHT OPERATIONS
Archie joined Tactical Air Support in January of 2006 after having worked as the Site Manager for Lockheed Martin’s simulation, training and support of F-15 air-to-air training at Kingsley Field, OR. During that time, Archie was responsible for managing the instruction of academic and simulation support of the F-15 Eagle. Prior to that, Archie served for 21 years in the U.S Air Force, accumulating over 3000 flight hours in the F-15A/B/C/D. During his active duty career, Archie served as an F-15 squadron commander and also served as an instructor at the Air Force Fighter Weapon’s School. Archie earned a BS from the United States Air Force Academy and is a graduate of the Air Command and Staff College.
John ”Jeep” Stivers TEST AND EVALUATION
John is TAC AIR’s Director of Test and Evaluation. After a successful Navy career and following employment as a contractor supporting Navy flight test, he joined the company 2007. During his 30- year military career he was an A-7 and FA-18 pilot and achieved command of the Strike Fighter Weapons School-Pacific, an operational FA-18 squadron (VFA-151), the Navy’s tactical aircraft operational test squadron (VX-9), and Naval Air Station Lemoore. After retiring from active duty, he provided contract support to developmental flight test of the FA-18 AESA radar. Jeep has logged over 5000 hours primarily in A-7 and FA-18 aircraft. He also has significant time in A-6, T-38, F-4, and O-2 aircraft. He developed and implemented the Advanced Attack Readiness Program while commanding the Strike Fighter Weapons School, lead the FA-18E/F fleet introduction effort as the Officer in Charge of the Super Hornet Fleet Introduction Team, and lead the planning and execution of the FA-18E/F Operational Evaluation of the Super Hornet while commanding VX-9. Jeep earned a B.S. in Mechanical Engineering from the University of Idaho and is a graduate of the US Air Force Test Pilot School.
Andrew “Oscar” Gamble TACTICS DEVELOPMENT AND EVALUATION
Andrew is TAC AIR’s Director of Tactics Development and Evaluation Projects and is based in Fallon, NV. He joined the company directly after retiring from the Navy where he was an EA-6B Electronic Counter Measures Officer. During his 20 year military career he was an Operational Test Director at VX-9, a Flight Test Director for the 413th Flight Test Squadron, a two time Instructor at the Naval Strike and Air Warfare Center, and a Readiness and Training Officer for an Air Wing. He is both an electronic attack and unmanned aircraft systems subject matter expert. Andrew has logged over 2200 hours in EA-6B, FA-18, F-16 and F-15 aircraft in both the operational and test environments. He has been a Project Manager for numerous aircraft and weapons system improvement programs; to include foreign material exploitation. In 2003 he was awarded the Association of Old crows “Information Operations Individual Award” for his leadership as Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses Chief in the Combined Air Operations Center during Operation Iraqi Freedom. Andrew holds a B.S. in Industrial Engineering from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, a M.S. (CERT) in Aviation Systems from the University of Tennessee Space Institute, and a M.A. in National Security Affairs from the Naval Postgraduate School.
cool, glad you like it. more to come on it. time for all of us to fill in the blanks, more info, more links
someone had a good question as to why TADF/TACAIR was qualified for the job other than having procession of the plane. we should post the guys experience, flight hours, instructor hours, etc
thx for posting it although it looks kinda big in the ibox
How TADF fits into the mix
1) I doubt they will wait until the planes are built to train the people who will fly them. Having the only FAA certified to fly Super T will give TADF/TACAIR the advantage.
2) People who build the planes don't necessarily know how to fly them. Again, TADF/TACAIR not only know how to fly them but how to fly planes in combat missions with 1000's of hours of flight time. Not only that, They are also experienced flight instructors, being former TOP GUN instructors.
hope this helps
Are you asking because you do not think one plane is enough to train pilots? Or is the question, how does TADF fit into the mix?
Dang, I've been ask sitting all morning. say THAT 10 times fast.
anyway ... Ive had a couple million sitting on 11 all morning and it still hasn't been filled.
and as I said, lets move on and start posting some DD for all the new people who will be drawn to TADF. No need to bicker about things we have no control of and frankly doesn't matter right now.
LETS DO THIS!
TADF - On the verge - IMPROVED w/LINKS
maybe we should add all this to the ibox, what ya think gang?
here we go
Embraer in conjunction with Sierra Nevada Corp is on the verge of winning a $355 contract building the Super Tucano for the USAF to be used in Afganistan.
to the next subject. No use in bickering about a R/S when there is cash on the table for all of us
I'm moving on. It's time to make some money.
Oh geez, F'n relax.
I understand that companies USUALLY use a reverse split to prop up there share price as a last ditch effort to stay afloat. It is USUALLY seen as a negative as illustrated by your response. In this ONE case I could understand it .... oh nevermind. F it
TADF - on the verge
Embraer in conjunction with Sierra Nevada Corp is on the verge of winning a $355 contract building the Super Tucano for the USAF to be used in Afganistan.
TADF which is in the business of pilot training is in poccession of the only FAA certified Super Tucano in the US. TADF COO and former Blackwater pilot, Mike “Ratso” Cariello, is one of the few pilots in the US certified to fly a Super Tucano.
With funding from TADS and personal from TACAIR, the two companies together acquired the Super Tucano from Blackwater.
TADF has partnered with TACAIR, another small business who trains pilots. Together they are trying to land a contract to train pilots for the Super Tucano.
The connections between the winning company Sierra Corp and our company TADF.
Sierra Nevada corp has mentioned TADF in press releases and have posted a video of a SNC exec taking a flight in the Super Tucano that is in poccession of TADF/TACAIR, even showing the TACAIR logo at the top of the video
We have also uncovered some previous military connections between the execs of SNC, TADF and TACAIR.
It has always been my thought that they would do a reverse split after TADF merged with TACAIR. The only way they could offer TACAIR 47% of the company was to double the amount of shares. It has been my opinion that after TADF acquired TACAIR, then the reverse split would bring back the level of shares.
TADF doubles the shares to engulf TACAIR, then reverse splits to bring the number of shares to some a little more reasonable.
This view is not very popular. Reverse splits have been used by other companies to continue to bleed cash from the stone however in this particular case, I don't see as a 'death blow' for the company.
Hey gang,
I understand the excitement and wanting everyone to see but when new people show up to check out TADF, all they are gonna see is a bunch of 'Go TADF!', Sure we get on the buzz cloud but we need to provide substance on why TADF is good.
If you post a 'Go TADF', post it with some DD. Find an article or other information that has been pushed down and repost it.
Found some pilot training contract examples
BAE Systems Wins Interim Basic Flying Training Contract
http://www.baesystems.com/Newsroom/NewsReleases/autoGen_1114593859.html
worth 86.6mil AUD = $89.2million USD
Lockheed Global Training fends off rivals, wins big C-130 training contract
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2011-02-15/business/os-lockheed-big-sim-deal-20110215_1_training-contract-military-pilots-high-tech-training-division
worth $270 million
The one I think that comes the closet is the following
Raytheon wins $42 million contract to train Afghan Air Force pilots
http://www.raytheon.com/newsroom/technology/idex2011/pilot/
worth $42 million
... still finding other examples
from my post #12565
It was really easy to move it to green. only put in a 1000 order and popped it up.
pissed me off someone would pull it down for 90 bucks so I just pulled it up for 10.
Yes, the board members here own quit a lot of shares. I can't remember who did the tally but a lot of us sent our share totals in for a count. I since have added several million more.
they dumped for 90 bucks. sad case when you need 90 bucks that bad
Of course they do MoonD, Many companies work this way. Could you imagine if TADF staffed up and then the USAF delayed for months and then the opposing company filed a lawsuit? It would be devastating to the bottom line to have those guys sitting around twiddling their thumbs while they wait. It would be reckless and arrogant to staff up before the check clears.
The company I currently work for is all independent contractors. Two guys run it. When they make a sale, they staff up and there is no parking for half a mile. When the contract is done, the place goes dark and turns into a ghost town.
In our case, TADF supplied the cash, TACAIR with the know how and they will fill in the blanks when they get te check and access the needs.
This way of dong business is not out of the ordinary and a very smart way to do it.