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Thanks Bob let me add some facts that others do not know that gave me added confidence, one is I have a frind who sells dismonds on line he lives in slovikia Matej 123 he deals wth a aluvial diamond minor in seiara leone. To make a long story short this minor buys his aulvial equipment from Allied the company sney partnerd with, Equipment.also made by Alen,,,,lol not so short after all, ps those Hatz will not break down,,,,,this aluvial will operate 24 7. I have a sney fase book for longs. Pm me
What Ken is doing ?.....of course whe know what he is doing. Read the I box, read the stickys, read the filings. If I were sitting at the station and I got off the train at the bottom of a VALEY thinking there was plenty of time to get back on.......I turn my back for one minnue and the most beautiful Train with the best and the most info had pulled away from the VALEY floor station. I too might protest as much as some do here, We could not get ken stead to be more open and know more about the propertys if Ken Stead drove by at 2 miles an hr, with him hanging a BA out the window
That's it? Not one reply to 3000 pounds of DD about the moters ?.....Your telling me no one cares about the kind and type of moters used on the dredges?......I had plenty more guess I will just keep it to myself,
Alan was to travel with the Dredges in the first part of january. This was in pr .
Each Dredge will sport two special HATZ Moters ....15 + 15 = 30 hp. of Sucking Power through a eight inch 20 foot long hose that will easly handle gettin down to the (PAY GRADE) IN A SNAP! ......monica has nothin on HATZ!! hatz moters are just made to NOT BREAK DOWN! .... ...........................................................................Hatz (German ) engines , air cooled , 3600 rpm in 14.5 hp. http://www.mgbryan.com/shop_image/product/Hatz-2G40-SS.pdf • Denoised: Due to constructional measure the noise emission has been reduced
to a minimum
• All purpose industrial Diesel engine.
• Low weight due to design of alloy.
• Low fuel consumption due to direct injection and multihole nozzles.
• Favourable exhaust emission values below limits of EPA / CARB.
• Robust, and longe life-engine.
• Low repair cost due to single cylinders and single cylinder heads.
• Unusual reliability - because no V-belts.
• Easy to service - automatic injection pump bleeding.
• Reliable, effortless • Electric start. ...................................................................................................................................................................... Design
• Aircooled 2-cylinder fourstroke Diesel engine.
• Vertical cylinder.
• Crankcase made of alloy, pressure diecasting, parted, vertical in-line cylinders,
grey cast iron.
• Single cylinder heads of light alloy.
• Three-slide bearing crankshaft with solid-forged counterweights.
• Valve control by rocker, push-rods and tappets.
• Pressure circulating lubrication system with replaceable filter in main flow.
• Blower fan charging alternator integrated in the flywheel. http://www.hatz.com.au/Home.htm .
If you'r intrested in the ...NUTS and BOLTS of the dredges that SNEY will be using here is some back and forth DD "email" before Allen joined the Board of SNEY Alan is the Dredge designer from OR. Alan is in Aferica now "dialing in" the Dredges. xxx xxxxxxx
Alen is now a SNEY ADVISERY BOAED MEMBER ..................................................................................................................................... Thank you again Alan....can you give me a quote ..."aprox is ok" ...For 3 of the larger ones like the custom ones your making for the African customer (8 “ double sluice models) ?....thanks again in advance xxx
.........................Hello xxx,
I have some pricing for you and please keep in mind my dredges are designed for the harsh African environment ,have the latest technology for recovery, and designed for
Commercial applications.:
Three Gold Grabber Dredges Africa Models with twin Hatz diesel engines and sump recovery $48,500.00 to $52,00.00 USD per unit. ( depending optional equip. ) and spare parts. Price good through 12-18-10
xxx I do have a company in Africa that I have worked with in the past , Allied Mining , and they may be able to help with your shipping and customs needs.
Regards Alan
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xxxx......what you’re looking at is my communication with the supplier/designer of the dredges ...who builds them for allied ... Bob Nordberg: xx xxxxxxx to alan
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Hi Alan ....I am interested in finding out how big your larger dredges are ....have you made costom dredges .....please send photos if you could ....Thank you
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Hi xxx
The largest dredges we build at this time is 8 “double sluice models…these are custom models designed for your particular needs, diesel or gas.
If you have a request I would be glad to quote. I have no pictures at this time but I am now building some African models and will have pics by Jan.
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Hi Alan thanks you for your quick reply. "African models” If you could tell me why you call them that? What do you expect their capacity to be? And type of Motors?...And are they for Alluvial Gold ? ...Is this type popular for African River Mining?..And any other examples of this type of (Successful Operations) ...I could use to show my potential partners would be most helpful...Thanks is advance ...if I can also get a approximate price range that would be fantastic....xxx.
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Hi xxxxx,
The Diesel engines will be Hatz (German ) engines , air cooled , 3600 rpm in 14.5 hp.
Keep in mind they are twins so will produce a true 30 hp, that’s a bunch of power.
My next choice would be the Yanmar ( I like them for their light weight and there are parts all over Africa)
What is your Choice?
Alan
..what you’re looking at is my communication with the supplier/designer of the dredges ...who builds them for allied ...and this guy has perfected this design since Ronald Regan’s first term.....he has refined it to a fine science
I can even tell you all about the special hatz motors if you like ....
their cool
single cylinder diesel motors
the designer left Germany at start of ww2
moved to Australia
these motors are famous for one thing ...
they don’t break, very slow rpm
high torque
each dredge will have two motors
their very expensive
but
when you’re in Africa.....getting a oz of gold n hr plus more than that getting REE’s as well (WORTH EVEN MORE THAN THE GOLD). ....not breaking down might be important
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..... Hatz (German ) engines , air cooled , 3600 rpm in 14.5 hp. http://www.mgbryan.com/shop_image/product/Hatz-2G40-SS.pdf • Denoised: Due to constructional measure the noise emission has been reduced
to a minimum
• All purpose industrial Diesel engine.
• Low weight due to design of alloy.
• Low fuel consumption due to direct injection and multihole nozzles.
• Favourable exhaust emission values below limits of EPA / CARB.
• Robust, and longe life-engine.
• Low repair cost due to single cylinders and single cylinder heads.
• Unusual reliability - because no V-belts.
• Easy to service - automatic injection pump bleeding.
• Reliable, effortless • Electric start. ...................................................................................................................................................................... Design
• Aircooled 2-cylinder fourstroke Diesel engine.
• Vertical cylinder.
• Crankcase made of alloy, pressure diecasting, parted, vertical in-line cylinders,
grey cast iron.
• Single cylinder heads of light alloy.
• Three-slide bearing crankshaft with solid-forged counterweights.
• Valve control by rocker, push-rods and tappets.
• Pressure circulating lubrication system with replaceable filter in main flow.
• Blower fan charging alternator integrated in the flywheel. http://www.hatz.com.au/Home.htm
Conferming with the Back Office is the way to go . If you placed a Good til Cl. and the PPS was set high I would conferm!
The experienced traders do ! I have had sterling on the Phone with the others who got in the Kitten back at .001-.004 and that is exactly what they did .....I too am learning from the best! Plus it's a great way to ruin a MM's lunch
This is a FACT if enough do this LOCK DOWN this happens... "The borrower must buy shares on the market and return them to the lender"
DO THE BLUE PART NOW Placing a High Sell order now *forces covering*..we make the MM's buy back what they borrowed :) ...QUOTE..The investor may close the position by buying back the shares (called covering). If the price has dropped, he makes a profit. If the stock advanced, he takes a loss.
Finally, the investor may return the shares to the lender or stay short indefinitely. At any time, the lender may call for the return of his shares e.g. because he wants to sell them. The borrower must buy shares on the market and return them to the lender (or he must borrow the shares from elsewhere). When the broker completes this transaction automatically, it is called a 'buy-in'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_(finance)
I want everyone to STOP WHAT YOUR DOING !! .....Place an order to sell right during this LUNCH TIME to sell sney at 10 cents ( GOOD TILL CANCEL ) trust me it's called a lock down. LOCK DOWN YOUR SHARES NOW!!! ....
If your shares were being borrowed for any reason the Market Makers will have to find other shares to borrow.
Plus that Handcamp .....this aint Mc Donald's. And it's a Pink Sheet with MM's chasen the "week shares out" and then they pull a MO MO ta get ya in, only to disappoint again. That's why the remembering of the DD you have done and knowing tons about a company like Kat is so important. Of course it's Volatile it's a JR Minor on the Pink sheets. Maybe you should buy something on the AMEX or the NYSE or possably look in to a mutuial fund. You really don't seem to have the Stomach for this.
Oh Realllllllly ....did you add in the value of Handcamp?....Because at it's High Handcamp's Value was in Kat......Just a fact some forget lol
Some concentrate on charts, some concentrate on DD. I am the latter and it looks like you'r the former. Knowing what the REAL VALUE of a company has is what matters in the end, Not what a MM wants you to think, for the time being lol
Personally I hope Kat and Katg acquire a different law firm. One who ONLY has a fiduciary Relationship with Kat and not a law firm who also has a fiduciary Relationship with a Market Maker including the worlds largest MM Night..............A smart man once said to me Law Firms are People too........
"I do not believe that Ken would complete further expensive assaying of Hole #2 unless he thought it was worthwhile. ".... I Agree
Biochemist posted some time ago that there were very high tec devices that cost as much as 20 thousand dollars, and what these devices could do is tell the geos in the drill shack exactly what was in the drill cores. I think with the world class geos Kat has working on the Rusty more than one of these very fancy testing devices is Among them. Think for a minute, would Kat send these cores out for the very expensive full suit of REE testing not already knowing what they most likely have? My guess is no. Or better yet Hell no lol.
Sorry but in 3 days that did happen. Up well over 70% Kat was way over sold and now is recovering. The question is how much just one property like the S. Lucly alone could contain well over 5 Billion worth of Copper wich is at a all time high. Time to get back in instead of complain about a bear raid most likely was forsed to help MM cover short positions.
I question if you have done your research... please research Newfoundland history.. more than enough history to satisfy an investor... sold me!!
Listen to your words and stop twisting an answer... http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=58377124 " Buy-Out. J V s suck !!!!" Your words!!!
"A JV is no big woo" "Usually if you do a JV it means your property is weak and you have seduced a Major to keep working on it".... Really? I think Vale being one of the largest mining companies knows what they are doing. Sorry, this post holds no credibility. What you are saying is VALE JV's with exploration companies because they have no clue in what they are getting into? Hmmm I guess that's why the have the daddy $$$bucks in mining.
If I keep adding is that a loss, I think not? LMAO!! What does one interpret on a government map! Uh oh... the Government of Newfoundland recognizes us as being a Major Mining Company! Oh wait what is the symbol next to our name with Hand Camp? AU I do believe thats GOLD!! WAIT IS THAT VALE, on the list next to us??? http://www.nr.gov.nl.ca/nr/mines/exploration/explorationactivity/expl_properties.pdf Read it and ask me why I don't sell? Because I am no fool!!!!
Never sold one share! Why? Because I would never want to beat my self upon the head when it shows what I see during my DD? Ahh sorry you are missing the boat! Good luck to you!
The PR was correct but if you are looking to make money in 60 seconds.. We don't consider you long! I am disappointed!!! I actually thought you were a long.. oh well!
Kat is going up manyana
DAVID M BARNES .....ON BOARDS OF BOTH KAT GOLD HOLDINGS AND CDII ....KAT has one option agrement with Vale " #2. MINING CO IN WORLD and KAT is awaiting results from Rusty Ridge a hugh IOCG / REE / GOLD COPPER PROPERTY ......CDII is involved with "consulting"....and KATX AQUIRED CONSULTALTS IN JAN LAST............. THE LINK IS THERE ...BUT NOT THE PROOF.....in both 3rd and 4 quarter confrencce calls CDII said a major contract was immenent.....was that Kat / vale / lucky property ?......PS: David Barnes is also on Board of VALE INCO ........!! http://valeinconegotiations.com/2009/04/letter-from-fred-stanford-upcoming-negotiations http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=58278238 David Barnes
Director, Employee & Industrial Relations
Vale Inco Ltd
.....I DO NOT KNOW ALL THE AYNSERS....BUT MORE AND MORE I LOVE THE QUESTIONS................................................. David M. Barnes is also on the Board of directors of Mihr http://www.mihr.ca/en/priorities/Index.asp ONE LAST THING....LISTEN TO ABERHAM STUBENHOUSE QUWSTION ON THE CDII 4th quarter confrence call and the VP of CDII REPLY
DAVID M BARNES .....ON BOARDS OF BOTH KAT GOLD HOLDINGS AND CDII ....KAT has one option agrement with Vale " #2. MINING CO IN WORLD and KAT is awaiting results from Rusty Ridge a hugh IOCG / REE / GOLD COPPER PROPERTY ......CDII is involved with "consulting"....and KATX AQUIRED CONSULTALTS IN JAN LAST............. THE LINK IS THERE ...BUT NOT THE PROOF.....in both 3rd and 4 quarter confrencce calls CDII said a major contract was immenent.....was that Kat / vale / lucky property ?......PS: David Barnes is also on Board of VALE INCO ........!! http://valeinconegotiations.com/2009/04/letter-from-fred-stanford-upcoming-negotiations http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=58278238 David Barnes
Director, Employee & Industrial Relations
Vale Inco Ltd
...................................................... David M. Barnes is also on the Board of directors of Mihr http://www.mihr.ca/en/priorities/Index.asp ONE LAST THING....LISTEN TO ABERHAM STUBENHOUSE QUWSTION ON THE CDII 4th quarter confrence call and the VP of CDII REPLY
David BarnesDirector, Employee & Industrial Relations
Vale Inco ......David M. Barnes is also on the Board of directors of Mihr ............MiHR is governed by an 18-person Board of Directors that provides direction and support to ensure that our stated vision, mission, and values are the common thread in all of our activities. Members of our Board of Directors represent a cross-section of mining industry employers, organized labour, mining associations, equity groups, and educators from across Canada.
....I DO NOT KNOW ALL THE AYNSERS ABOUT DAVID M. BARNES......BUT I DO LIKE THE QUESTIONS :) .............................................................................................. WHAT DOES MIHR DO?.............................................................................................MiHR is a catalyst and industry leader by spearheading the collaboration among the Canadian mining sector's communities of interest to:
Identify emerging human resources opportunities and challenges
Develop targeted solutions
Facilitate their implementation
................................................................................................ MiHR is committed to operating according to the following guiding principles—values that are reflected in action and upheld in all of MiHR's activities:
We promote a collaborative approach, carefully considering all input provided to increase the effectiveness and responsiveness of our programs.
We cultivate effective and ongoing communication and engagement with all communities of interest in order to be continually aware of their evolving needs.
We foster an environment that is transparent and impartial.
We are committed to maximizing contribution while ensuring efficient utilization of resources.
We respect the diversity of perspectives, cultures, and values that will be the future of the Canadian minerals and metals industry.
We are committed to the highest ethics and professional standards, believing that honesty and integrity are essential in our relationships, both as individuals and as an organization.
.................................................................................................................................................................. LOOK WHO ELSE IS ON THE BOARD OF MIHR ...................................................................................................... Walter Manning
Chair
National Representative
Communications, Energy and Paper Workers
Pierre Gratton
Former Chairperson
President & CEO
Mining Association of British Columbia
Patricia Dillon
Vice-Chairperson
Director, Employee Communications and Engagement & Industry Relations
Teck Resources Ltd
David Barnes
Director, Employee & Industrial Relations
Vale Inco Ltd
Ingrid Hann
Vice President, Human Resources
De Beers Canada Inc.
Paul Hebert
Director, Government Relations
Mining Association of Canada
Alain Cauchon
General Manager of Human Resources
ArcelorMittal Mines Canada
Ron Barauskas
Suncor Energy Inc.
Chris Hodgson
President
Ontario Mining Association
Kelly Lendsay
President
Aboriginal Human Resources Council
Sylvia Barnard
President and CEO
Cambrian College of Applied Arts and Technology
Dr. Malcolm Scoble
Professor and Department Head
University of British Columbia
Dave Stewart
Nickel RIM South Mine
Roland Lefort
Vice President CEP Local 707
Denis Couvrette
President Local 599, Xstrata, Kid Creek Smelting Operations
Canadian Auto Workers (CAW)
Bob Huget
Administrative Vice-President
Communications, Energy and Paper Workers
Bill Garton
Canadian Auto Workers (CAW)
............ Please direct general inquiries about the MiHR Council to info@mihr.ca.
....................................................................................................... MiHR Priorities
http://www.mihr.ca/en/priorities/Index.asp
David M. Barnes and Vale ties! http://valeinconegotiations.com/2009/04/letter-from-fred-stanford-upcoming-negotiations
.IS INCO THE MONEY ??? .....CONNECTION BETWEEN DAVID M. BARNES ---- AND VALE INCO .........I DO NOT BEING COMPLETLY WRONG.... AS LONG AS I AM COMPLETLY RIGHT!! "" The team has been assisted in its preparations and will be supported during negotiations by David Barnes – Director, Employee and Industrial Relations;"" valeinconegotiations.com/2009/04/letter-from-fred-stanford-upcoming-negotiations ''''HA''' http://valeinconegotiations.com/2009/04/letter-from-fred-stanford-upcoming-negotiations last november kat anounced a Zambia Style Copper find on the Bonivista ........EXACTLY.......seven days later VALE INCO ...completly surounded the LUCKY Propertys along with the rest of the entire Bonivista ...over 300 square miles....then just a short while afterward "in January" Kat announced % Million Dollars restricted share financing at 10 cents ...well above the going price at the time..... 01/19/2010 9:15AM KAT Exploration Retires Additional 300 Million Shares, Engages New Consulting Group, Dual Listing and Carbon Credit Assets on th
01/15/2010 10:30AM Kat Exploration Secures up to $5 Million Funding With 50 Million Restricted Shares and Retires REG-D 504 ............ jan pr http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1267833742&article=41278356&symbol=NO%5EKATX http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1267833742&article=41243522&symbol=NO%5EKATX http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1267833742&article=41185526&symbol=NO%5EKATX http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1267833742&article=41165194&symbol=NO%5EKATX http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1267833742&article=41128631&symbol=NO%5EKATX http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1267833742&article=40991429&symbol=NO%5EKATX
THIS IS WHAT KAT LONGS SHOULD DO.... IMO.. "if they want to see shorters run to cover" .... The investor may close the position by buying back the shares (called covering). If the price has dropped, he makes a profit. If the stock advanced, he takes a loss.
Finally, the investor may return the shares to the lender or stay short indefinitely.
At any time, the lender may call for the return of his shares e.g. because he wants to sell them. The borrower must buy shares on the market and return them to the lender (or he must borrow the shares from elsewhere). When the broker completes this transaction automatically, it is called a 'buy-in'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_(finance)#Short_selling_restrictions_in_2008 A HUGE SHORT POSITION IN KAT STILL IN PLAY ...Big Owl estimates it to be still 50 Million wich still needs to be coverd http://www.tradingmarkets.com/news/press-release/actc_actc_bac_c_katx_mi_bpop_buyins-net-market-maker-surveillance-report-katx-actc-mi-bpop-bac-c-highest-net-sell-volume-1387379.html
I am sorry for your loss, but thankful for your honesty. Hopefully others can learn from your mistake..... I ask those who will listen to get all longs to "LOCK DOWN" your Kat shares. Placing a high sell order with a good till cancel will remove your shares from the pool of shares Market Makers can borrow from to move Kat like has recently been done......... DO IT! It cost you nothing. Just don't forget it's there "high sell order" as KAT takes off in January http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_(finance) PS: I do not wish to debate this issue ...thanks :)
"conspiracy theories," Buyins.net is no conspericy nut http://www.tradingmarkets.com/news/press-release/actc_actc_bac_c_katx_mi_bpop_buyins-net-market-maker-surveillance-report-katx-actc-mi-bpop-bac-c-highest-net-sell-volume-1387379.html
You were just posting about a entry point!.......now ....you mention "if they fail...".....Why would you be be posting about entry points if you truly thought the latter was going to happen ?.....I am getting lost following your logic IMO
And of course they added enough to almost double the size of Rusty,,,,,But I ask you, why put out the best Kat news at a time witch is competing with the tax sell off season ?......I think Ken just gave us a hint of all the grreat news they will break in ....JANUARY!!! Kat has a short history.....But it's Kanuary history a good number of great and wonderful things PS The stock also rose quite handsomly :) ALL ABORAD !!! IF you choose to wait for another train that's a big gamble IMO
All alone at the station :( KAT is one big PARTY IN JANUARY http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1267833742&article=41278356&symbol=NO%5EKATX http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1267833742&article=41243522&symbol=NO%5EKATX http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1267833742&article=41185526&symbol=NO%5EKATX http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1267833742&article=41165194&symbol=NO%5EKATX http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&cb=1267833742&article=41128631&symbol=NO%5EKATX http://ih.advfn.com/p.php? 01/27/2010 10:00AM Kat Exploration Reports Additional Copper Find on Its "Lucky" Property
01/25/2010 9:44AM KAT Exploration -- Handcamp Soil Samples Submitted for Analysis
01/20/2010 10:00AM KAT Exploration Inc. Joins Information Portal StockProfile.com
01/20/2010 9:00AM (OTC: AFTC) Leveraging Its Army Contract
01/19/2010 9:15AM KAT Exploration Retires Additional 300 Million Shares, Engages New Consulting Group, Dual Listing and Carbon Credit Assets on th
01/15/2010 10:30AM Kat Exploration Secures up to $5 Million Funding With 50 Million Restricted Shares and Retires REG-D 504
01/14/2010 12:10PM Kat Exploration -- Retires and Eliminates 2 Billion Shares From Treasury
01/06/2010 10:33AM Kat Exploration Summary of Latest Events
.KAT LOVES JANUARY ..............10:00AM Kat Exploration Reports Additional Copper Find on Its "Lucky" Property
01/25/2010 9:44AM KAT Exploration -- Handcamp Soil Samples Submitted for Analysis
01/20/2010 10:00AM KAT Exploration Inc. Joins Information Portal StockProfile.com
01/20/2010 9:00AM (OTC: AFTC) Leveraging Its Army Contract
01/19/2010 9:15AM KAT Exploration Retires Additional 300 Million Shares, Engages New Consulting Group, Dual Listing and Carbon Credit Assets on th
01/15/2010 10:30AM Kat Exploration Secures up to $5 Million Funding With 50 Million Restricted Shares and Retires REG-D 504
01/14/2010 12:10PM Kat Exploration -- Retires and Eliminates 2 Billion Shares From Treasury
01/06/2010 10:33AM Kat Exploration Summary of Latest Events
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