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EDIT: "In 2010, BuildMasters reported revenue of $318K with profit of $38K."
"BuildMasters, LLC is a fast growing commercial building contracting firm specializing in steel erection and concrete in the construction industry."
What was that 1-2 garages? A couple thin steel bldgs?
A hay barn or 2????
318K is payroll for a real erector/concrete company in Jersey... But then inix couldnt afford a real company...(Yea, Jersey is way over paid)
So, lets get this straight... the person that has been a part of the multiple failures experienced by iFinix over the past couple of years is now a "construction professional"??????????
Would like some real data on this "fast growing commercial
building contracting firm" our CEO decided to shove down our throats thru buying 6.8 million preferreds.......... Considering inix had no money, those pref.shares/100% acquisition had to have been obtained thru a highly dilutive process. Remember back when they cut the A/S from 400M to 288M??? Now, 277M more shares have been utilized between 2nd and 3rd Q's. 2011 for?
But one never knows, maybe this "Buildmaster" thing is a newer upstart with some experienced management behind it?
hmmmm.. seems to me they sold out pretty cheap if so... Id be more willing to guess it's someone that knows someone that knows someone that said "have we got a deal fer yoo"....
"and if ya buy this we have a promising goldmine you might be interested in looking at........."
WOW.... The more I am witness to all this, the more I want to start my own stinkypinky company.........
:)
EDIT : can we see 3 trades today?
What r u explaining here? out of context...
My comment was in reply to a JD China factory post replying to my import/export comment....
Where does the cheap import tractor market come in to play within that conversation?
Cmon..............
"hmmm thats funny because i have a similar company that was..."
So many stories we all have on the pinksheet messageboards this could go on forever..... Moot...
"Those that claimed taking TYTN to new highs we're turned around quickly, they were only taking credit of the run with *there so called ARMY LMAO !!! what a joke. ...."
No they werent.... They pushed this stocks PPS wayyyyyyy beyond its best wishes.....(someone jealous?) The main long term destruction was the companys June 2011 announcement of increased Authorized Shares....... (*their)
The only joke I have been witness to with this company is the fact that from 2004 to 2009 the company could not function on it's own without some kind of financing. By the end of their banking relationship (bank failure) and revolving credit line(currently in default) they found the avenue to go public. As of the last court judgement in May of 2011, just 1 month later, the company raises the authorized shares as well later shows a doubling of the outstanding shares.
These are all RED FLAGS my friend..... So, pinksheet messageboard
"momo" is all one really has to count on with this company till some operational supporting revenue is recognized on a steady basis...Till then, unless the "players" come back and Im gonna guess around an 0002-3 cost basis than many will just have to continue to post the website/s that have anything to do with the subject company... (and thats a funny conversation right there with all those other tractor brands being promoted ahead of tytn)..... Next time...
:)
"I PRAY MARK FILES TODAY... SILENCE IS GOLDEN"
Pick one..... Is silence golden or ya still waiting by the link to the OTC filings to show up????
Excuse my intervention but you got shhhnookered.............
It seems you have been sold on a PPS for this company back in the May 2011 past(PRE Dilutive raising of the A/S) pump n dump... Right now "hoping/Wishing and or burning a "Chinese buffet" candle just wont help the cost basis....
Iff'in I was you or others, over 2-3 grand invested, I'd go to the companys location and start taking the product back... Scrapping per lb. might just get you a small recovery??????
Waiting and worshipping most times does not pay off when all said and done.. Know when to hold'em, know when to fold'em. Know when to take back what is yours!!!!!
Riddle me this......
A Chinese electric tractor is traveling 15 mph South,... The wind is blowing 30 mph North............ Which way is the smoke from the exhaust blowing?...........
??????????????????????
:)
"..too busy doing god knows what, and fails to file a key document."
AHAHAHA......The "Long" story is: The company sold Wayyyyyyyyyyyy too many cheap Asian tractors past Q. to have been able to keep track of and needs more time to get the figures straight........ AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Classic..... Dilute the investor then use their capital to bulk up on physical product while screaming "Brand building/demand"....
2004 to 2009 all on revolving debt... 2009 to present all on "others/investors" debt. (preferred shares @30 bux minimum liquidated)
Funny Stuff...............
:)
"it's been 29 months...."
Havent babbled here in a while but the recent activity is extremely funny.... A tagteam of ? AHAHAHAHAHHAHA...
The company has diluted the pizz out of the investors and it'll take a better, more experienced/connected team of penny players to take this back to 00.0'S
Damn funny to watch though...
Happy Thanksgiving Kids......
:)
"so what does this mean-we are on the list or off-will this go back to a regular trading"?
tytn still being cleared just has to in 1 day/day of....
T4T....
tytn gets discontinued, then the investors have bigger probs.
Have a great/safe Thanksgiving.
Hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving.
Even old Benhope (the paint by numbers) Monroe...
:)
"Midsize farmers and loggers have no loyalty to buy Deere what so ever and can care less about the unions. If you can buy 2 for the price of one, that is where their loyalty will go and stay as these business men and women are loyal to one thing alone, profit".
That comment could go on for a long time but for the most part...
Explains why America is in the shape it is.....
6.5 BA BA BILLION shares also explains alot....
Going public just as ones revolving credit is about to go away explains alot....
Raising the A/S right after the final court ruling on the past credit default explains alot...
Ya get what ya pay for....
:)
"People like BN don't reveal themselves/own up to that type of a profile/say they are new or not part of the chat room"
1) Since Jan 2010 "BN" As well another (prior Jan 2010 Sabeon01) have been 100% accurate towards INIX with out the need for a face to face presentation or an INIX for dummies slide show ....
2) Profiles were continously diminished by the yellows that couldnt admit the company "INIX" was being exposed for the
"shabby" management as well re-junked products the koolaiders were promoting.
3) Make the approach, I sure as well wont deny my sentiment of past, current and future "chat room" comments that I have made/ will continue to make towards the subject company...(and it's future koolaiders!!!!)
INIX imploded as was predicted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Be happy the inix inside BS was let go!!!!
:)
EDIT What in Gods name would JD want with tytn?
tytn isnt even a knat on JD's ear nevermind a worthy buyout...
JD is about to "up the stakes" in China, so be prepared for the "super" PR's from the discount chinese tractor market in the USA..... As minute(adj) as it is...
"Vendor shmendor. When you boil it down, it was a person succeeding and a person who didn't want him to succeed".
Succeeded at diluting the "heck" out of the investors....
So far...
:)
:)
:)
EDIT Is this guy still around?
RICARDO MORENO BRILLON
Chief Information Officer
The corp website only shows Spadaro....
Interim CEO Douglas Spadaro stated, "The company is undergoing a transformation following the resignation of several members of the Board. I want to ensure shareholders that I am evaluating all aspects of the company and will do all I can to move the company forward. I will continue to update shareholders on future corporate activities."
Those seem to be some bold statements considering you,
Interim CEO Douglas Spadaro, have been a part of the company through out the past and recent events. You have been a part of the 1st and 2nd failure of Realtime, The addition, R/S, reduction and eventual F/S with additional shares as well the raising of authorized shares on a course that looks to be a continued diluting of investors equity only to produce a complete failure.
Cant say the company was not warned that an implosion was imminent.
The "We didnt know" concerning the DTCC issues does not cut it!
The security laws are part the companys business!!
The suspected "had no foreknowledge of the CEO's actions" will not cut it either! The COB has no knowledge of the working capital on a monthly or quarterly basis? (lied to you to huh?)
Yet now, after all the harm has been done, the investors are to wait for.....? A new acquisition....? With what...? As COB and now acting CEO.... How much disgrace are you willing to throw upon the long time investors till you let them know their shares are pretty much worthless except for what they or others can muster up with some pinksheet message board momentum?
I for one as a shareholder over 2 years, holding a meaningless amount of shares compared to so many other INIX investors out there, ask you to kindly take all your COB BS, business credentials as well their reflection on past decisions in this company and shove them up your phony share diluting INIX COB-CEO arse!!
Revenue talks BS Walks!!!!
"Upon the advice of legal counsel, the members of the iFinix Board of Directors voted to withdraw the company from the NFA".
AKA - Run or admit fault.. Same ending? Hmmmm (what cost less in Attorneys fees/Penalties?)
No NFA - No Revenue/Depleting revenue/Future dilution solution..
Worse part....Proactive had a history of this BS!!!!
Time for the Free Market to take over!!!
Ron Paul!!!!!
:)
Yo Wood, I hope you can get out with a plus but I wont open another brokerage just for INIX trading... Please... Ill stick with my call/put options.......... Anyway... I spent too much time building AC casinos to ever want to play in the desert.... Maybe some fishing up North someday?
:)
EDIT:"TYTN Hyd Dump Trailer 2T works from Tractor, Car or Your Truck very good to DUMP anything even"
How about the rest of the A/S????????
Heck, all that takes is a phone call....
:)
EDIT:
"yes - anyone can make that call."
HUH???
A commie composting conference call?
"So my two big questions for this week."
But there are so many better questions to be asked....IMO
"How big is a shipment of tractors?"
As big as the doubling of DILUTION allows.... (in koolaidland and available space) Oh wait, Others are also ordering massive amounts of tytn tractors for a giant "Show N Sell" party... Right............
"Whose 3rd party report is required before Mark can file fins?"
On the otc.. (Alternative Reporting Standard) fins can be filed "faxed" off of toilet paper as long as the required info is provided and the fax machine doesnt jam.. Other than that a hippie web designer could create the fins as long as the CEO signs off... No "accounting nor 2nd,3rd,4th,and or 5th (pinko) party reporting" is needed except for the attorneys letter after the fact.... (just went thru this, no?)
But
.... There could be anything from insider selling (preferreds converted, open market/ bad 504 etc...) to the private financing default issues, or maybe some kind of explanation concerning the DTCC that the company feels the need to include in this Q's report. (stock numbers/activity in the Q. would be "required") Im sure the co. knows being 10 days late means nothing really....
(could be that "conflict of interest" issue concerning attorney letter also?)
Hey, maybe it's a 3rd party from "China"...? EWWWWWWW the suspense...
:)
"Former CEO out. Moving in a new direction - Holding Company - and away from the financial industry. Over 125 million shares traded in the past week so whoever picked them up stands to make some coin if INIX moves back to mid-.000s or higher. I will reserve judgement until after the company [new management] informs shareholders about the acquisition.
I agree with some previous posters that the company at least filed financials on time and there is the potential, at least according to the PR, for the stock to move higher."
WOW.........................
Sticking to the old rulebook aye........?
Lets see, how long has the current INIX "acting" CEO been involved with company operations? Hmmmmm...
Now it's, "lets wait and see" because "quarterlys" (plural) were released and somewhere the word "acquisition" was typed?
NFA found no money in the bank acct but old INIX is gonna make them selves an "acquisition"............
Maybe it's the "new" Interest from bottom dwellers?
SHLAP DAT ASK..... SHHHHLAP IT...... PLAY DA LOTTO...
I was gonna go silent but ihub had to play along...
Welcome back X.............
Lets play the next round of INIX' REALITY...!
:)
"record low volume day. that should really screw up alot of charts"
Time and Sales:
$0.0006 100,000 OTO 13:05:34 $ 60.
$0.0006 300,000 OTO 12:09:59 $180.
$0.0006 450,000 OTO 09:58:18 $270.
$0.0006 564,966 OTO 09:53:01 $339.
$0.0006 100,000 OTO 09:30:18 $ 60.
5 transactions. 909 bux...??????????????????
WTH is dat after such a great PR yesterday??????
Lawdy Lawdy I aint seen nuthins like dat b4...
Pure sign of toooo many longs and not enough pump'n flips...
The right MOMO should have taken this thing to close to 009 today.
WOW...
Lack of interest make me think the quarterly might not impress.... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
:)
AHAHAHAHA..... "brewing"....
"excited"? Have ya tried clicking on their websites recently????
They're ugly.... No, they're non existant!....
"brewing"
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
:)
$0.0006 100,000 OTO 15:48:49......
All this good news and the PPS has to be painted?
For 60 buccaroonies?????
Tytn has a long road ahead........
w . yanmar.co.jp/en/aboutus/company/index . html#plOverseas
60 dollar paintjob.....
Funny stuff....
20111114|TYTN|24989941|0|28997655|O
Atleast 4 million made it thru..........
:)
"..there was over 60 million in short volume."
The reg sho dailys are undelivered shares, most likely delivered next day.. They are deemed short because of the non delivery just like someone slaps the ask and that is considered a "buy" when there was both a buy and sale conducted. Unless we are given the info that the "sale" was a "win or loss" no one knows what it really was.. IE: someone buys in at 0006 sees the stock going towards 0003 asks 0004 in panic and its hit... That is considered a buy when in reality it was a panic sell.. So all for naught on what is real or not... Daily reg sho can be settled in a certain number of days. otcmarkets dot com shows if there have been any real non delivered naked shorting all one has to do is look.
Look for "short sales" and then if there are any notes at bottom.. "No Reg SHO data is available for TYTN" / "Reg SHO and Rule 4320 threshold lists notes if there have been 'excessive' fail to delivers for the respective security."
Understand SHORTING is legal and a very useful tool for traders that can see past the onesided show of only buying a companys stock. There is a time frame to deliver the sold shares and if naked and not able to deliver is when the trouble starts with the "short squeeze" Buying higher than the naked sale to return shares.... I for one wish the private trader could short the pennies. It would be a giant nightmare for some changing the penny game.
"if it is the quarterly report or thru a PR, it is up to him and no one else"
Thats what makes the pink market so risky.... The lack of key information given to investors by most pink companies..
Many of these companies complain about what it costs them for the junk reports nevermind putting together a real quarterly or annual report... They'd go nutzo having to release most info required by the real markets.
Heres what is known... 2009 when the company was having loan issues the company was taken public. Thruout that time the company was able to survive on the remaining shares from the prior public company. In April of 2011 the judgement was affirmed and as of May 11 2011 the company is in default of debt that was created prior to being a public company. All of a sudden in June of 2011 the companys "board" approves the authorized shares to be raised from 1.5 ba ba billion to 6.5 ba ba ba baaaaaaa billion as well using the new shares resulting in a doubling of the outstanding shares. Since there is no proof of any undelivered major short selling the reasons for the T4T restriction dwindles down to possible "ring trading" or what some have mentioned have been bad 504 deals/filings.
Go back to post 20000 and read the next couple of days worth. That same BS flow is what will be needed if the next report is anything short of a severe growth in sales profits over the $4500 bux seen Q2... Need $4,500,000+ annual in the green to catch up to the outstanding share dilution ratio. ANything else is pinksheet MOMO or NONO........ Play accordingly..
One last thing, if the price for these tractors are so great then why hasnt the company approached/landed (as far as I have heard) any local, county and/or state govt accts? The news of talking to govt agencies alone would be a quick 5-7 bagger, no? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..... Im sure a "group rate" or "multi tractor" discount could be worked.... No? Hmmmmmm...
Maybe it's the lack of submissive "tail" for the weekend offerings that nixes any "in the states" Govt. deals? (not implying that the company partakes in this sort of thing outside the US) Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.. (I would if I had over 3 billion more tytn shares to buy "stuff" with, Ill take her... her..ETC...)
Ahhh Herro Prease...
Herro nutt'n Im here to buy tractors and you are here to Sell them!!!!!!!
:)
"Last chance for cheapies. Quarterly will prevail. Monday or Tuesday. Then the race is on".
Im pretty sure I have heard that before, lets see....
Post #52638 August 15, 2011
"$TYTN Short squeeze coming up.
Look at the MM's scramble. Wait till OTC Markets post the quarterly.
TYTN is going to get really exciting".
Aug 15 PPS 0011 ... Todays PPS 0004
No short squeeze nor any real excitement since that post.......
Well unless one considers 6.5 billion shares ready for the market exciting?
Q2 2011 4500 bux in da green
Q3 better see 450K (thousand) bux +, considering the over 3 ba ba billion shares outstanding in so little of time...
Where is the other one????
Post #52988 August 16, 2011
"With more NEWS coming and the Good info in the quarterly report, the trend is going to continue UP to .003 + for TYTN."
This one was in early, no doubt that it capitalized on the May run while convincing others there is more coming... AKA "Slap da ask as I take my profits"....... Dont worry it's going higher... Silly Bagholders..
"earlier today I emailed a reasonably empassioned and appropriate email to ML"
TYTN mail call.................
HAHAHAHA, I used to (snail) mail Santa every year when I was a kid....Even got some letters back.... Worked out to about 50/50 on getting what I was "hoping" for, only thing is, I didnt have one stinking dime invested in to santas' inventory, OPEX, Past Debt, Future debt, "Hope n Change" etc as some do in TYTN............ So, if ya looking for a big wheel or Millenium Falcon with lights (batteries not included) ya might be in luck. If ya looking for TYTN profits big enough to outweigh the new outstanding share count..... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm G'luk on dat and (IMO) play the 0003/4 momo that might be coming before its back to 0003/2.....
:)
"It takes money to make money"
Isnt that the truth.... Only here, the investors monies are used as well diluted. Question is, If the company started in 2004 and went public in 2009 why did the company only recognize $4500 for the 2nd Q of 2011? 5-7 years and what?
By end of Q2 2011 the company had retired, then issued 700mil com. shares to be sold for a total of 321,700K.
June 2011 the company raised the A/S from 1.5 bil (all out +/- a couple shares) to 6.5 bil only to disclose that by Nov 1st the outstanding share count went from 1,500,000,000 to 3,255,464,633 shares.
While it may be nice to hear the company is making overseas deals and booking new dealers, where is the "sales history" backing up up any speculation for future growth via diluted investors ? This idealism is like taking the kids college fund and playing black or red... Ahhhh, but then comes the question of timing on "going public".............. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Id go public too if I was about to get hit with a 700K judgement because my revolving line of credit was nixed and I couldnt stay current on past debt without future debt........ Not that big a deal though, it's done everyday by our Govt...
:)
EDIT 2 "With the kind of reasoning I see/what is the point of having/ pps is based upon the pps/we need a company to evaluate?"
It's the pinks... Even big board companys have their fair share of negative views but the pinks have above and beyond each side of the fencers... Some believe, some flip, some lost faith and some just understand the cold hard reality. The reality in the pinks is no different than the big boards, REVENUE!!!! Revenue will grow a PPS as well "maintain it" no matter what world it trades in. Just as in the big boards the right news will send the PPS into a moon orbit, even more so on the pinks. The only thing keeping it there would consist of either more news or revenues to back up such news. Dont be afraid to take profits and if one believes in the company than only take the initial investment and play the free shares.. (remember taxes when taking initial)
Now, why are there negative views for tytn and why does it seem the negativity is growing??
1 Lack of revenues...
2 The new O/S as well the raised A/S structures
3 The PPS fluctuations
4 DTCC issues and what the future may hold for liquidity
5 A past pump n dump scenareo suspected
6 A CEO that communicates to some yet not others when a CEO should talk to none of the investors..
7 A company that has past debt issues incurring seemingly right around the same time the company went "public".
8 The future economy....
If there are investors that truely believe than let no other comments sway the ideals and beliefs but remember there were warnings sent prior any equity legalities or lack of revenue "PPS bottoms".......
In other words, take advantage of the lows by selling at decent reasonable highs because most of the other pinky traders that say they arent.... are!!!!!
:)
EDIT:
"YTO stands for: Yearly Trading Offenses"
HAHAHAHAHA.......
Im jealous I didnt see that one...
Nice!
:)
"You still have what you bought. Whats your fuss?
Did your share count drop"?
The shares were more than cut in half as well the liquidity and poss. higher dilution in the future. Thats like the old saying ya havent lost till ya sold... A year later ya might not be able to sell.... Simple Simon met a tractor salesman while going to the loonyville dilution fair... Think about it, people get mad at Bernanke for printing dollars but its ok for some pinksheet tractor store lacking revenue to do it????
UGH.........
"..just a pup here. Not even housebroken yet."
20111108|TYTN|674373|0|34098041|O
34 mil in shares traded only 674K not delivered...
Looks like shares were readily available to be had today,
either someone is dumping or someone is DUMPING... Could be a little ring in there too. 9 mill & 8.9mil with in 3 seconds....?
$0.0006 8,900,000 OTO 14:24:11
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$0.0006 9,000,000 OTO 14:24:08
Things that make ya go Hmmmmmmmm...
"there is no doubt in my mind that this will be a multi billion dollar company"
Got one word for ya.....YANMAR
Now, from 2004 to 2011 this company recently recorded a measly $4500. profit "in the green" for Q2 2011.. Such a long long road to travel before these fantasy/hope n change/past record - billions are made that there is a good chance America will be owned by the Chinese before any multi million share holding investor ever sees any profit from their investment if they do not take profits thru pinksheet MOMO.... Tripzip 4 to tripzip 9...
take the money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"cut in half sticker price"
Cmon, there are competitive prices all over the internet for the same grey market with comparable attachments.
"Mark has the whole kit and kaboodle sowed up nice and tight as it is"
No, tytn does not have anything k&k sowed anywhere. Well, ok... maybe in town and in some investors minds/wallets... 1.7 ba ba BILLION slices of the company went where since June?
"Slow down Mark, let us gather this in already while he's on his way to Russia. Mark Leonard is like a God in China, he can't be stopped"
WOW.............. So, whats da investors sentiment on Mao Tse Tung? I hear he ran tractors.... We'll leave it at that...
WOW!!!!!!!!!!
And the long investors think the negative talk will scare new investors.... Funny Stuff!!
:)
"would be nice to be kept in the loop more"
Investors are in as much of the loop as the CEO wants. Right now imo he should be working on damage control. The DTCC issue seems to be trickling on to other brokerages if what I read is right.
QUESTRADE. While a Canadian co. it still effects volume.
Etrade and Knight are the big volume for tytn... See what happens.
11 trades today.... Thats not too good when trying to get the PPS to da moon...
"TYTAN is the next multi Billion Dollar emerging giant in the AG sector."
But for right now, (& the long to midterm future imo) it'll stay a "multi billion share" giant dilution machine...
KOOLAID alert:
"TYTAN is at the cutting edge of a successful dynasty and future industry giant.
The implements alone are enough to sustain a multi million dollar company without the tractors.
The financing alone is enough to sustain another multi million dollar company with nothing else to offer except financing.
The competition can not come close to the price
Napa may be in line to carry the basics
Our patents is another revenue stream all in itself with more pending and more to follow.
This is the real McCoy and welcome to the corporate world. "
WOW...................It's a wonder Buffet hasnt given tytn a call being the corporate world and stuff.......?
Or has he????????? *(Insert mystery music here)
giggity giggity...
3.2 ba ba billion shares out... 1.5B + since June of 2011.
4500 dollars kept for Q2 2011
Over half a ma ma million in default since revolving credit line ended.
Will the gray/grey/cheap import tractor market move to heights unknown with tytn at the helm? How many licks does it take to get to the tootsieroll center of a tootsiepop?
Sure!!!!!
Post#67418
"This Customer is in Merchant Circle complaining about us and they refuse to verify to remove it."
Hmmm, typo or a big old Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa on the website? Either way, bad form. Might want to re evaluate the chick that maintains the site...?
"As far as I'm concerned a true Investor would be insane not to invest in this Company... Mark Leonard Knows the business and has the connections! BAR NONE... TYTN IS THE GREATEST COMPANY AND OPPORTUNITY ON THE OTC!"
The Chinese govt/YTO... Hmmm, considering the Chinese are out for the Chinese and will use any available venue (even some tractor salesman out of Washington) to increase their physical holdings in the USA. Should such a situation arise will it pay the current investors??? HAHAHA not before it pays out hansomly to the preferred share holders...
Ya never know?......
:)
"would buy more but TDA says I can't. Whatever..."
But the company is current on the OTCMARKET...Sup wit dat?
Cmon, it was stated:
November 02, 2011 3:08:53 PM
#66648
"Makes sense that TDA will be prepared & OPEN for BUSINESS tomorrow as well (online & electronically it seems)."
November 03, 2011 10:12:34 AM
#66810
"Primed for NEWS & taking the chill off the stock too!!
He he heee..."
Thought so!!!!!
Funny stuff...
Saskiat Ehorst: exec. asst... office mngr...excellent graphic artist... Right O......... Explains the filing duties/website management/ photoshopping..
So, the company is going to open credit facilities for dealers and retail investors..... With a history of:
"$700,000 judgement against the CEO and the companys defaulted 660,000 loan/Tytan Int. inc. is technically in default of that loan as of May 11 2011...
(but in June the company increased A/S to 6.5 ba ba billion)
Tytan has never been delinquent on any payments during it's 5 year relationship with the bank/ the bank was cash strapped and did not renew Tytans line of credit/ Put Tytan in default on it's loan.....
smells of Obxxxnomics, Payin debt with more debt...Hmmmm...
"dilution of investors"? "lack of tractor sales"?
*All loan info/excerpts were obtained via Tytans public financial reports... Full text can be found on the OTCMARKETS website.
:)
"But in 2004 an old friend from Benye, Wu Xuliang, convinced him to dip his toe back into the tractor market and Tytan International Inc. was born"
WOW, how self defeating... After 7 years the company claims 4500 bux in profits (Q2 2011) after utilizing how many millions of investors shares in capital since tytn went public????
Note*
From what I could see Ault was over 400mil out when Tytn took over, then it went to 800+ then recently almost gone (1.5b) when in June the company raises the A/S - 5bil above the past amount as 2 days ago the company reveals it doubled the outstanding.
E.P.S. Notta
Market cap? ... lets see what happens with the outstanding debt issues
Great topic that could effect the company:
November 03, 2011 9:42:20 PM
Post #66992
"think people will be disturbed by TYTN combining with the Chinese" /"recognize the fact that unions would rather see this country go down the tube instead of making any genuine concessions to allow companies to prsoper and grow and hire more workers."/"not what they were intended for lo thos many decades ago"
I was making reference to the "bragging" on MCap' but in all reality..... I am non union. Will never be union. Have watched the unions increase the cost of everything near me for a long time as well influence Govt.issues outside their immediate interests.
Warning!!! More and more "union" persons are heading to the farmlands. They are coming with nice chunks of money and a mindset that can be detrimental to the norm. Their wives will drive a Toyota yet claim they are all American buying American equipment for their new farm... Do not let them gather in numbers.
Either way, the company needs to start showing increasing revenues vs increasing shares outstanding, after 7 years in business. There is a sentiment increasing against Asian products starting across America, how it will effect the import tractor market is to be seen..
The issues on this board are pretty common these days for the pinksheets... DTCC, Current/non current Info, Shares out, etc......... Get used to it if the company continues to use shares for company funding/operations/building. I do not see any near term situation (1-5yrs) where the company could position it'self to "buying back" shares so any decrease in shares would most likely involve a reverse split. (IMO)
Build momo and capitalize.. It's what the pinks are for....
person mark to ya.
:)
EDIT "TYTN's market cap for a company that wasn't financing its daily operations on the backs of shareholder's "beer money"."
Market cap really has no value for any company except for borrowing and bragging .... We know TYTN pretty much wont be able to borrow much untill the Cowlits thing is resolved and bragging goes how far when explaining to everyday Americans you made your fortune by selling non union chinese products purchased supported thru diluted investors money?
Yes, the out is over 3.2 ba ba billion, my mistake....
Another thing Ive been wondering, This company financing thing... Who will be responsible for the defaults?
The company or the ........??????
I know, Im sure you know, but do the rest of'em know????
Can we call this an up coming "Import Tractor Bubble" ???
HAHAHAHA.....
Funny Stuff...
:)
EDIT:
"YES and we like that dont we Mr. SUSPECT!! That gives us a chance to get more cheap shares AND it gives Mark Leonard funds to DOUBLE this company revenues and then a bunch more IMHO"
WOW........................ 'nuf said on dat one...
AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..............
"important info like Q, JV, and TDA issue."
TDA issue is more a DTCC issue.
I found this statement quite amusing:
November 03, 2011 10:12:13 AM
Post #66808
"At this point Gareth is immediately bringing it to the
attention of the programmers. I explained that it is an
issue of concern because brokers may not be inclined towards
trading the stock. He said he understood completely & will have
it looked at RIGHT AWAY.
He said this is uncommon, it has happened before, he can not
give me a time-frame but understands how the brokerages have
been operating of late regarding NON-CURRENT Pinks & will do his
best to expedite a resolution."
HAHAHAHA...
Yeild sign over a late attorneys letter is very common and will remain common. The pinksheets/otcmarkets is usually a couple days to update most submissions to show currrent standings. Anyone doing this for any amount of time would understand that.. Anyway, "yeild to current" isnt that big of a feat and has no significant power on share price except from buyers that have a less than normal understanding.... Otherwise known as "future bagholders"....
This one is even funnier:
November 02, 2011 3:08:53
Post #66648
Makes sense that TDA will be prepared & OPEN for BUSINESS
tomorrow as well (online & electronically it seems).
TDA wont accept new positions due to the past yeild sign???
Funny stuff.
Q3 as well all future quarters need to show way more than the $4k realized Q2 now that the OS is over 2 billion. In the near future better hope the company makes sure all 504's are properly placed and any future market selling (dilution) is spread out. As for any "ring" trading the T4T took care of that..
TDA will be prepared & OPEN for BUSINESS tomorrow as well.
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
:)
(EDIT below)"Maybe TDA will allow us......."
"Maybe" is a pink investors worst sentiment....
As long as TDA users can sell, they might be ok not opening up a new acct elsewhere. Should some new momo come to life, TDA investors will be left behind.
That said, May 30th 1.5 bil A/S - 1.45 out. June 30th 6.5 bil A/S - 1.6 bil out. Nov 1st 6.5 bil A/S - 3.25 bil out.....
That is a large amount of dilution in a small amount of time. All on the investors back.
So, what is the significance of todays filings? I didnt find any "big news" included with the filings. Well, not if you dont consider a "doubling" of outstanding shares in 5 mos "big news"....? Have yet to see any JV news, Have yet to see any DTCC issues addressed, Have yet to see any concern for the ongoing 700K FDIC/Cowlitz bank issue.
"2.5b will be used for the joint venture with yto. They are restricted. They will be converted to preferreds after the deal is closed."
So, tytn will up the amount of preferreds soon?
At a conversion of 400 to 1, times 2.5 ba ba billion.. Id run for the hills on that one... Holy mackeral....
Cmon, the company had/has limited cash and is going for the gusto off the backs of shareholders... Time will tell if there are enough cheap "Asian manufactured tractor" consumers out there to make this highly dilutive adventure pay off excluding any pinksheetstock MOMO....
2.6 mil mcap, how much in product sits on the lot? How much in previous unresolved debt? How much in speculative selling is vested? The "YUGO" had a bunch of dealerships... Once...
The amount of actual trades has slid...
Good Luck.
:)
EDIT..
"we hopefully know what the increase was for by the end of the week. it was an increase but for the right reasons will be a good thing if news is good."
No matter the spin, the raise in A/S will continue funding operations for lets say the next 1.5 to 3 years should sales continue sideways... The economy will tell the tale.
"we need to send a train load of those to the North east states to help with their problems"
HAHAHAHA Cmon..... YA really think we could actually use that cheap (tytn) bent mixed tin lookin "steal" up here? Look at the pic again.... 1)The paint is hardly off the plow and it has bottom damage 2)The plow looks like it was fabricated from a cheap aluminum siding bent...
Smooth and round lets the snow flow, kiddo! Trust me, us North Easterns folks know Snow...
Now, if all ya gots is a long driveway to throw a little snow off the path, sure, a bent plow is acceptable. We move just a bit quicker here so we will stick with the "round'er'er" snow throwers, thank you...
Appreciate the concern though, thanx....
:)
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...................
Cmon now.........
To those that post AMTD is involved with anything non business like concerning TYTN, other than choosing no to not deal with DTCC problem companies have got to get a grip.
AMTD did not place tytn nor any/all the other companies on the DTCC T4T list.... (BTW UBS still has tytn, you can look it up.)
This is a "company"(tytn) problem with the DTCC, leading to a problem for customers of AMTD invested in tytn.. Best route for those customers is to open a new acct in a known broker still allowing opening positions in the company. There is talk that bad 504 sells are causing many T4T actions along with increased suspicion of "ring" trading...
I almost bought in back in Sept 2010.... Did an hour or so of dd and didnt throw any money at it. The main reason was bad financials, bad website and a really bad photoshop of 2 pieces of equipment in a mud puddle infront of what looked like the torn off front page of a log cabin brochure... Glad I didnt because the PPS was .002... and deflating. The PPS didnt even rise after the news of the lawsuit win early 2011.. Took 4 months and some kind of MOMO that took this to creating new bagholder levels. Shame the A/S was taken to what I would consider "out of the norm" numbers. But then whent the PPS went to .004 from tripzip 0's, why not push the sane limits of A/S?
Look, the CEO needs to get back to working terms with being open for full electronic aggregation (DTCC) as well clean up the companys past debt and hope to God the economy takes a change for the better even if everyone believes the Chinese will not use this company as a tool to their advantage.
4000 bux kept last Q, all on the shareholders backs just as their backs were quietly approved to be weighted with future dilution via the companys board.
Good Luck.... Lets hope next years harvest makes a market for the cheap imports????
:)
PS uptick, try some control and ignore my posts unless you can PM something of substance, ok? (imagine that)
"and now TD Ameritrade doesn't even want them".
That is the most accurate statement in weeks on here...
I concur !!!!
Bad old shorters:
"meaning they have sold more shares than they are able to account for".
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WOW..... Looks like that T4T is causing some high FTD's without AMTD Hmmmm
as of:
Oct 14, 2011
Short int. = 164,881
% Change since Sept 30th = 238,857.97
"if they would of been following the rules and regs. that govern short sales, they wouldn't be in the sticky wicket that they currently find themselves"
Funny thing, no significant FTD's recorded Per Reg SHO or rule 4320 Hmmmmm.
There has been more than enough volume for any shorts to cover...
Since there are no significant "failures to deliver"... Did the T4T come into play from "naked short shares"?????
Probably not...IMO
Were some ring trades found? Probably so...IMO
The raise in authorized shares probably brought attention to the company and the DTCC found some trading patterns that they just didnt like, add in the pinksheet limited info "yield" sign..
Presto... T4T
Company might have to sell even more shares now to cover the price to clean things up...... Good thing they have more than enough, pending on daily PPS... (even then the DTCC can reject)
:)
"I'm in Loooonnnnnnngggggggg! I think this is going to take real time to pay off to investors. But I believe it will pay off"!!
2008......... So, "out the window" or "over the cookoos nest"?
CEO worship almost always seems to be the worst drawwwwn out stance to take for most pinks.
What this guy did in the 80/90's and what is being done now are 2 different monsters.
Doesnt matter what is going on in China unless it brings in increasing revenues to TYTN... Is the new venture going to be YTO's NEW American website out of Kalama Washington? Great more Photoshoped pics to shake our heads at...
Recently watched a vid on the European (euro) problems and how it trickles down to the American farmers... Many nervous farmers out there. This company needs strong farming revenues as well a strong American dollar just as much as the big American farm equipment suppliers... The discount farm buyers are pinning themselves between a rock and a hardplace buying imports.
The scariest thing concerning the CEO's actions is the increase in authorized shares..... "to build the company"..... Everyone realizes what the Billion mark is right? (hint, thats a mega lot of shares dwindling shareholders down to but a micro sliver per per original share... imagine you once owned a slice of pizza and now all you have is the greasy napkin, and never took a bite)
If it wasnt for the fact that CEO's can dilute investors beyond imagine on da pinks, they would neve take some of the chances that they do with wild dreams fed thru the idea of an infinate supply of capital via cutting investors share of the company
This might be a great long term private company for the CEO's family and private local investors, but the 6.5 bil A/S seems like a "go for the gusto/hail mary" is in place on the backs of the investors.
Someone better get on the companys CEO and Secretary to get all the BS resolved before toooo late....
"and he can still do a buy-back and retire when things settle out".
With what??? He would need to make "profit" way above what has been recorded to date... Buy back shares... ugh... Bad enough he had to give up his own shareholdings not that long ago then raises the A/S...
MOMO ....Play da MOMO.... ALl ya's got right now.. (and that is without the AMTD customers)...
Good Luck. Hopefully this guy has a plan above all other pinksheet plans and increases revenue a gazillion fold, kinda like that one poster said would be seen by 2nd Q 2012 like 7 trillion.bazillion.... AHAHAHAHA
I like dat, is bazillion more than trillion? hmmmmm gotta be..
Funny stuff..
:)
"it seems to be a TDAmeritrade thing, not a DTCC thing. TYTN is T4T and Pink Limited, nothing more. We already have a hill to climb, let's not make it a mountain".
Partially right, it "is" an AMTD thing "due" to the DTCC thing.
T4T makes the trade more expensive and timely vs trades thru the Continous Net Settlement System (CNS). So, right now AMTD will sell the old positions for investors but not allow any new positions. It seems they dont want/need the hassles. Also it has been posted on ihub that some who sold positions during events such as this for other companies thru AMTD, increased brokerage fees had been charged. (HINT: fight with them and they will most likely lower or remove any new increased fees)
"Pink limited" doesnt matter all that much except to those that expect the company they invested in can "at the least" keep up with the kindergarten like rules the OTC Market requires with financials. It also matters in upgrading to a "better market" which I do believe the company had mentioned in previous PR's...
Right now this T4T thing could dampen much of the MOMO that many were expecting after the China trip, 1st because many investors playing quick momo play use AMTD as well 1 day buy/sells volume will be mimimlized to non existant.
The market is getting more and more unfriendly to the pink market. Thats just the way it is. With all the "ring trading" that happens these days with the pinks expect to see the DTCC issues continue and increase... Having multiple brokerages is the key to insure against getting blocked from buying equities that may be a bit "manipulated"....for an uncertain time that is...
:)
EDIT:
Hypothetically, did someone really have to wait all that time to finally sell at a loss, or was there some point where being rational just flew out the window ?
HAHAHAHA, Isnt that the truth thru the right question !!!!
I think all of us have done it before...
These days its - rational flew "over the cookoos nest"..
"..trying desperately to cover an inadvertent and unwanted short position.
If this is true, things could get a little crazy".
All B.S.
AMTD seems to be quick these days to get away from companies with DTCC issues. (such as tytn) Seems like they do not need the added time and expense (T4T) by dealing with such stocks. Cant blame them. If the DTCC issue is not resolved in the near future, investors may very well see more and more brokerages do the same... To note, in the near future there could be xtra charges for sells of TYTN thru AMTD also... Time will tell.
Buyers beware... This may come to a brokerage near you?
:)
Edit below "How do we know that Mark didn't ask them to step in"?
Why would a CEO do that in this current "correct the pinkmarket"
wave?
CMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Short selling is the least of any pinksheet stocks worries!!!!
:)
EDITAll penny stocks are naked shorted,to say otherwise is illiterate or they have a agenda here.
But of course they are... As well all are needing help from the DTCC............. Right O...........
Keep up the good work .....
:)
Being EDUCATED on issues starts from within as you have to have the drive to want to learn and thoroughly understand what's out there.
Well now Lawdy Lawdy isnt dat da truffe.....
AHAHAHAHAHA
Lets see, whats out there for TYTN....
The economy at its current conditions....
The 4000 bux they kept last quarter....
the YTO Texas website that hasnt been copyrighted since 2008....
Oh yeah, the "JV" that should be announced by the end of the month.... edge of the seat on that one.... ewwww ...ahahaha
Lets not forget, the 250 k that will most likely not be seen from the Bogden suit.. between bk and all the legal venues, it'll be years and diminished values.... By that time YTO will have owned the "X" CEO's land for atleast 2 yrs.... Most likely sub divide and start a 10 dollar "all yoo kon ete BUFFET"... Nice!
Listen, I understand the TYTN MOMO and the TYTN dedication, just dont understand the filthy PM's sent... This forum is a 2 way street, the good, bad and ugly of the subject stock TYTN, no?
Listen, the economy could improve any day now and TYTN could have atronomical sales for the 4th Q.... (especially if the investors all lobby Old Bammy and make him give out tax exemptions to all TYTAN tractor purchases from now till 2015...) Hmmmmm Did they shake his hand in China???? We know he bowed.... Dont matter...
ALl TYTN needs is the CEO worship and dedicated DD that replays day after day after day with the same 6 ba ba billions shares authorized lacking the current outstanding...
AMTD..... Start of the warning that there may be things happening that MOMO just wont correct.... Or maybe not????? Righttttttt
:)
Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:43:14 AM
POST #64725
"This is the response I got just now when I tried to place a trade
Error occurred!
Please press back/cancel button of your cell/pda for previous page
Error:
Opening transactions for this security are not accepted."
Anyone trade any other pinks thru AMTD today or "is this prob. only with the ticker (TYTN)??"
I would guess mainly tytn, DTCC issues and AMTD do not mix well...
I take it as they dont need/want the extra BS that goes along with many DTCC problematic pinksheet companies...
If AMTD users see "Opening transactions for this security are not accepted" tomorrow - when they hit the buy (TYTN) button, then these investors might want to get all of their TYTN shares over to a brokerage that they can verify is still trading TYTN ASAP....
In 2 months from now should this continue as well escalate, no one should complain there were no warnings. The next couple of days/ weeks will tell where one needs to be concerning the tradability of this stock.
The best one can hope for is AMTD had a "hiccup" in tytn today.............. RIGHTTTTTTTTTTTTTT....
:)
AMTD halted new positions in TYTN????
Hmmmmm sounds like the beginning of what could become kinda ugly..
AMTD seems to be the first out of the gate on halting problem stocks DTCC wise. Happened in another stock not that long ago, amtd was first then in time others followed. S.T and Zecco hung in there longer but eventually they were said to be halting also.
The company better get the DTCC issue resolved. It's not going to feel good to some investors if the PPS drops and a possible buying opportunity arises where the amtd clients cannot take advantage of. (could get expensive to close the same positions if desired)
T4T was started around the end of Aug?
supposed to wack the shorts?
Short Interest:
164,881 Up(238,857.969%)
as of Oct 14, 2011
If T4T has anything to do with "abnormal" handling of "paper shares" then this very well could have extremely eratic results on the PPS thru the future, till resolved.(if resolved)
:)
edit "The only reason why a stock will go up in price is because the buyers are more aggressive than the sellers and are willing to pay higher and higher prices for a share of stock. The only reason why a stock price will go down is because the sellers are more aggressive and are willing to sell there shares at lower and lower prices. There is no other reason."
Well now, that would be great if one was addressing 1st time lets say May of 2011 tytn investors.. Page 1 of the Kermit the frog book of pennies...
The things that kill charting is the "news that isnt known yet thrown"...
The larger "earlier investor" that has lived thru it's "restriction time"...
The lack of "anticipated MOMO", or a better "opportunity that may arise elsewhere" as they do on a daily basis....
Charting is a usable tool for the dedicated but for da pennies most just want the early in "MOMO" and early out "Realized gains"... The way the govt. has been cracking down, Id be weary of any charting with out paying attention to the legal movements of any subject pinksheet company...
Cant claim all extremes and still sell the system... "IT might/It should/If it does/Id buy/Id Sell/I'll be Waiting....
Just too broad..
IMO...... sure!
:)
"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
The latter part smells more like the G.W.B. game of selling B.S.
Kinda like "hey we gonna make revenue for US operations VIA the Chinese stock market..." Right.....
I like dat...