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I really have no idea. I believe right now that we are just seeing some MMs/ brokers trying to make some money on low volume. I think the 8mm at 24 is bs.
They do the same type of financing in Canada.
I believe they are Asher's Canadian counterpart.
A must read if you are actually interested in this sector.
http://www.adlittle.com/downloads/tx_adlreports/ADL_OTT_Disruptive_threat_or_innovative_opportunity_v2_01.pdf
Seems all the competition is struggling, but this si why I see some rapid consolidation.
“While Skype dominates the over-the-top mobile VoIP space, the market is seeing other applications such as Fring, KakaoTalk, Line, Nimbuzz, WeChat and Viber gain in strength,” notes Diane Myers, Infonetics Research’s principal analyst for VoIP, UC and IMS. “But the fact remains that most OTT mVoIP providers are making very little money per user. In 2012, the average revenue per user was a meager US$7.13 annually. Since this alone is an unsustainable business model, most providers are turning to advertising, third-party apps and wholesale arrangements with traditional operators.
http://www.infonetics.com/pr/2013/Mobile-VoIP-Services-and-Subscribers-Market-Highlights.asp
Very good article, note para 3 stating that the 2012 average rev per user was $7.13.
http://www.sygnalgroup.com/the-rise-of-mobile-voip/
Mr apples, it was the concept combined with mobile/cards that intrigued me. Try using some imagination and creativity for a change. Cut and paste must get rather boring.
Really, I did not know about this. Do they advertise on the sites?
I assumed it was a distributor or shareholder. It seems mgt does not believe in social media as they should.
I'm in agreement, brokers with a lot of shares turning 10-20% per day. They are not paying the fees that we do.
Sorry, link
http://www.bizvoice.co.za/dealer2.htm
Very interesting dealer/ MLM marketing plan for a VoIP Co in SA. Called Vox but a different co.
I see the Vox mobile@voxandroid has 7300 twitter followers. Not bad
I think it's more a question of many people hoping for cheaper pps. This is very typical pre Xmas.
Yes, I agree with all of your post.
Nope, FF has a hammer, not a ball.
Agreed, adding and the trend will reverse as always.
I did have someone verify that Panomark does not add clients to the website until they have completed their contract and have verifiable results.
SG, a smart CEO would address many of the issues discussed on this and other boards. Hiding from the market does nothing for the Co or the pps.
I don't think that your investment is lost as long as the Co or FF makes the necessary cuts and marketing.
Previously you were saying that FF was not in control and now your saying they can fire an exec, which is it????
It's certainly not a scam, just needs some hard working creative CEO to replace Riss.
I have not seen the claim of the 5-8%. However, you are certainly correct re revenues. Very sad state of affairs when no one but two posters on this board considers Riss to have any integrity.
I do think it is ridiculous that Riss will not update shareholders on the progress if the app/subscriptions.
Spit on post delineating all of the key issues. I can not agree that either Riss/Richards have sacrificed anything at all. They have pulled multi millions out of PVSP.
Market is waiting for real news coupled with the long term silence from the Co. I added but not much filled.
Great post and I agree with all.
This site will make it easier for all to follow the PVSP filings as well as loan and CD subscriptions. One can find a number of un named recipients of 25m share CDs as well as ff, aegis, jdm, magna group, redwood mgt and NetCapital.
https://www.bamsec.com/companies/90721/pervasip-corp
What is your response to this fiasco. Apparently, they do not have controls to limit free.
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My guess is they are getting some of the short term financing/ CD deals with PVSP.
Obviously sir, you have never been involved with a real Board of Directors. If you had, you would realize that they will rip a Cos financial condition, operations and marketing to pieces and then cut the executives heads off for non performance. Inadequate funding???, how many more billions of shares will be "adequate"?????
No, there are many more conversions to come. FF has 2m dollars to convert and I am sure, as all should be, that there are many other short term conversions made each month re other monthly loans that remain anonymous as always. Unfortunately, the market deems this a RS play since the last AS increase along with Riss's history of BKs and RSs. If you DD Richards great history you will only see failed telco companies, although his bio states that he brought Cos to profitability, (right before they failed). Also, many of the Cos in his Bio are the same Cos that changed names (aka ). His "consultancy" experience to large banks can not be substantiated nor will it ever be. It's all a self written bio with no justification and certainly no substantiation( meaning you won't get it from him).
Well, according to Riss/Richards/BJones they ever had a product until the last plan. IMHO , that is Mgt speaking tithe board, it is way too obvious. Only a desperate person does you tubes like Riss and only arrogant narcissi like Richards would attack shareholders.
I'm not a detective, don't want to be. There is too much smoke combined with years of dilution and changes in business plans, very common scenario. Not rocket science detective scenario stuff here, especially when the dilutive execs are benefiting and not willing to sacrifice like normal business owners.
I agree, however, if you study the chart you will see a decrease in the buy volume at this level compared to the past (Not a good sign). BJones and his arrogance is a definite negative to this board.
His posts are a bit obtrusive and offensively derogatory to any form of positive criticism. A common shareholder would not react in such an arrogant and narcissistic manner towards very important fundamental questions and remarks from shareholders. Apparently, Mgt has a very disconcerting view towards new shareholder opinions, including dressing up and marketing six year olds as Santa.
Of course it pays for itself with subscription business. PVSP loses the 1st month revenues under that scenario. Almost every industry in the world gives up more than the Ist month to salespersons and advertising. Your experience is very limited to say the least.
This should be very distressing to shareholders who were told the same thing for many years. This was obviously a kick the can down the road strategy for many years. As I stated, your share selling days are over.
"We have the technology, we just need the Marketing push to tell the world, and that is what Panomark is going to do.
You can't sell it before you have the product. We have the product now we will SELL it."
Again, dodge the ball. If the last plan is the only good plan that works then you are saying everything else before this was BS. Exactly where do you draw the line with failures????? I was trying to add a positive perspective and once again you became defensive as if it were a personal attack which makes your MO way too obvious, either way, this plan is your last attempt and I do hope it works for shareholders. Your share selling days are obviously over.
Hopefully, Pano realizes that PVSP should cycle out of the free 60 minutes and do 20 free mins usable in ONE week.