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stick to ya pennies, that's where that kind of hypothetical belongs & sure, Facebook director Peter Thiel—who was one of the social network's first investors - is an idiot...LMAO if he thought he would make more, hypothetically he would - hold...lol
Goldman Sachs Group Inc.,Tiger Global Management and Facebook director Peter Thiel —who was one of the social network's first investors —more than doubled the amount of stock they plan to sell.The change means that 57% of the offering will be coming from current holders, rather than from the company, an unusually high percentage for one of the most sought -after IPOs in years. In comparison, when Google Inc. went public in 2004, existing holders represented 28% of sales, according to Dealogic. Private holders sold no shares in the public offerings of Yahoo Inc. and Amazon.com Inc. in the 1990s.
Pure research; Trust - don't trust me
Facebook stockholder and hedge fund Tiger Global has decided to sell more than 23 million shares, up from 3.4 million a day earlier. Other big sellers of Facebook shares include Goldman Sachs, a Russian billionaire, and two Facebook insiders.
Yes, strong hyped retail demand has been generated for FaceBook, however insiders are exiting on that buying as the IPO becomes more of a media event than an IPO.
The social networking titan added nearly 84 million shares to its offering, for a total of 421.2 million. All of the added shares will be sold by insiders, with PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel and underwriter Goldman Sachs more than doubling their selloffs, - Tiger Global Managements unloading is nearly eight times the 3 million shares originally planned. Additional shares will be sold by early investors including Accel Partner James Breyer …and the list goes on
The selling probably was sparked by concerns over revenue growth
PS..Apple is a tech co whether they design, mfg or partner; whether they're the best or worst at what they do
For the rest of the list - do your research this way you'll believe it yourself
diff of apples & oranges...right now,facebook relies on revenue as an advertising co based in Social Media and if they don't stop the decline of revenue, Facebook becomes a pay as you go social media sight..lol Social media sights have been coming and going since the early 90's, albeit not as sophisticated...Apple a true tech co, Google is so much more than Facebook as a company and competitor - with much better management...and finally, I think the insiders AT FACEBOOK know quite a bit more than you...57% of INSIDERS at FACEBOOK or with close ties to FACEBOOK - are cashing in or out; however you want to say it
57% of the shares being offered are coming from insiders - they're cashing out
You can't force anyone to click on those ads,or stream the ads to the mobile ap quick enough...The PE is stratosphere hype but their growth lags;actually how many more people are left in the world that will be interested? their profitability is also in decline... FACEBOOK is nothing more than "Big Brother" collecting info on everyone - IMO...Short term play for me on initial offering
Don't bite your tongue, but that's not necessarily true; there's no guarantee of that...in fact facebook is already considering fee's for effects such as yellow highlight
http://www.business2community.com/facebook/facebook-to-consider-charging-users-to-highlight-a-post-0177592
You can't force anyone to click on those ads,or stream the ads to the mobile ap quick enough...The PE is stratosphere hype but their growth lags;actually how many more people are left in the world that will be interested? their profitability is also in decline... FACEBOOK is nothing more than "Big Brother" collecting info on everyone - IMO...Short term play for me on initial offering
of course but how much of that is confidence in their own company to perform up to expectations;
Edited: That's NICE OF THEM, shows you what Kramer knows, he should have stayed with Seinfeld...with the hype of possible PE multiples of 150 [not since bubble dot com] but growth of only 60%, these last minute decisions and changes IMO are based on uncertainty - the recent negative news of revenue and the fact that they have an uphill battle to supply ads to the increased movement to mobile; my gut feeling is they want to strike while the iron is hot with hype & take advantage of it as much as they can...in terms of profit it's best explained below which is one of the reasons I am short term flip
lol, were you a guest of the Commerce Dept too? I've been around CA wineries & vineyards long before Bumgarner and Jeff...thats the only reason i pop in on this page,that and for the occasional laugh
it's right on topic as everyone spends their time promoting CAGR without ever actually touching it ...I've been up & down the corridor of hwy 50, 12, 99, and 5...hey jeff we're watching you buddy
and they got their hands all over it...protecting it for you
Yea ...they sure are, building those check marks..lol ..c'mon, lets see that check mark list posted for the umpteenth time again..lol
Oh I surely do know ...
Actually after seeing the content of your opinion regarding the email response you received and how it might contain forward looking statements by Jeff, I revert back to my suggestion of having Jeff electronically notarize the conversation
Have Jeff notarize the response...lol
Facebook to increase IPO size, value to $18.5B
By Kate Kelly
Facebook plans to increase the size of its IPO by 85 million shares, says someone familiar with the matter, a move that could value its upcoming offering at as much as $18.5 billion.
The social network’s 25 percent upsize plan will be filed with regulators at the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Wednesday morning, this person said.
Facebook’s expected move takes the size of its new issue from roughly 340 million shares to roughly 420 million, a change that, combined with the greenshoe -- additional shares that could be sold by bankers in the aftermath of the IPO -- could value the total deal at nearly $20 billion.
A final decision on Facebook’s IPO price, which is expected to be somewhere between $34 and $38 per share, will be made Thursday evening.
Boy they're really pushing to milk as much money up front, wonder what has the scare in them?
Call CAGR and ask for the location of their future Liquor Store; they should know if any one does, while your at it ask them to notarize their response in a document to you, so you can display the document for everyone to see & believe....better proof than the numbers coming out of the TA...lol
with all the uncertainties created the last few weeks from S-1 filings and news stories, and talk amongst institutional investors, they want to strike while the iron is hot with a higher initial offering...I'm still in on initial offering - short term
They'll tell him to call the TA...lol
As money generation goes,Facebook is an advertising company with a foundation in Social Media..always evolving and dependent on how strong the interest in social media remains - how long they keep it FREE...there have been several generations of these companies that have come and gone since the 90's albeit not as sophisticated...I am in on the initial IPO for the short term. Several factors bother me about Zuckerberg in control long term
Too many ways to create something out of thin air. If these sales actually exist and are legit, and they have worked their way through initial inventory "evenly", throwing in the utilization of a few bottles for the private parties,yes they should have depleted the inventory;Also,I don't think its been "splained" by CAGR if invoices represent shipments at a later date [pre-sales] or "direct shipments" from the wineries themselves. I have not heard through the grapevine nor do i believe anyone here knows what terms the wineries have worked out with CAGR & to what extent the credit lines with the wineries extend; As i don't think,First, they have the cash on hand to risk on these quantities, second, they will run into a logistics problem if only one or a few labels are showing limited success as quantities will determine their ability to ship containers profitably...there's more to riding that easy train to success than just a check mark - IMO
hey, remind me..does first part of a month mean first week or second week which could be considered first half which might be considered the 50 yard line if we were speaking in sports terms; maybe greek knows...has CAGR opened that Liquor Store yet?
CAGR is to Raisin as Solyndra is to Green Energy
for those looking for a back door to FACEBOOK; I've heard FUNDS that invest in FACEBOOK are an interesting Avenue...IMO
Such as GSVC...IMO
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interesting
No naked shorts here
Have they opened that Liquor Store yet?
Highly logical
Didn't they institute the BAP program as a solution for providing a more consolidated international sales effort? hmmm
Facebook updates S-1 with SEC...Ad rev growth not keeping pace with mobile user growth ...Investors trying to get a handle on Facebook's future, as Smart phone & tablet users increase more rapidly than ads can be delivered
FACEBOOK put the CLAMPS on them and the other pre-IPO markets a few weeks ago
well lets see; Their Q rev was down, Zuckerberg paid too much [~2X]for instagram without board approval weeks before IPO, game co Zynga starting their own websites w/ game access apart from Face book, Zuckerberg holds 28% of shares w/ 58% voting power [If Zuckerberg is following the Google page, shareholders could eventually end up with dollar value but no voting rights]ect ect
Is there any truth to coincidence of dilution right before the release of quarterly financials?
Are they opening some type of Liqueur Store? When?
E*Trade needs to clarify their lottery..lol, for those who think its a slam dunk to participate on initial offering of FACEBOOK IPO...there's rumor Facebook is making an effort to have some of it’s shares accessible to E*Trade that a small amount of shares are only available ...I don't work through E*Trade, but one of the original Under writers and had to go through my own process
as I wrote a year ago in describing the eventual fate of the EV industry and the political landscape, nothing but scams & Gov't Subsidies - IMO
EVCA landed on My NO BID alerts ...as usual, those with legitimate knowledge & compassion to take the time to warn those of the pitfalls trading on the hype are right again - if it sounds to good to be true, it is
Didn't I read somewhere in addition TPS received 50m and the right to put one representative on the BOD?