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Thank you for your reply. It was very easy to read and your opinions on why LQMT still trades around 0.11 cents for a long time now.
I noticed you skipped the many failures of all executives involved with LQMT from inception to present as the reason for LQMT stock trading at 0.11 cents and for lack of a better expression: lay blame on all of those invested on the outside.
Also, skipping over the facts of executives selling out and not purchasing more stock since no whales were ever imminent at all for the past 10 years. Thus reflecting a lack of confidence in their own beliefs in the company to grow in the future. Then subsidizing stock options at shareholders expense as a sign that something big is going to happen, when in fact nothing big at all ever has in terms of large contracts and consistent growth.
Aside from the theories and opinions of some facts and opinions of your theories of why LQMT trades at 0.11 cents. I take it from reading your thoughtful reply that the actual reasons why LQMT still trades extremely anemic daily and in the pennies with very little interest, has nothing to do with the current shareholders or their views up or down. But on the fact that both interest, volumes and share price will rise only when and if LQMT ever lands a contract with a mega cap company.
To the executives of LQMT. You heard it here first for the one millionth time; Get off your arses and start earning your salaries and start inking contracts like your counterparts. Otherwise you are going to eventually fail as a company as in the past selling out for the third time or filing for bankruptcy. Until then all in LQMT will be stuck in very low penny land. And while you are hopefully working at success, it would not be a bad idea to communicate more frequently with your shareholders and the rest of the world, so that they too will notice you exist and become interested in your company the same way many here in LQMT became interested in the first place.
For example: having shareholders posting your trade show event to other shareholders is not a very good way to get the news out of an event that can lead to contracts as they have done in the past. It’s a disingenuous way for disseminating the company’s activity. I say disingenuous because it gives off an impression that you want to hide the company whether that is your intention or not. And it would not hurt to do a follow up to your trade shows to discuss any success with your current shareholders and any potential new ones to increase demand for your stock, while you may be working on a contract.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
jaybiscuit, you have posted dozens of theories and reasons and potentials of why you own shares in LQMT and why you think the stock is going to go a lot higher for some time now. It all sounds so good.
Now can you post some info on why the stock is trading so anemic and the share price is still trading around 0.11 cents?
I get all of that potential you see. Potential is really not very new to any LQMT share holder. Even when you add all of that potential since the IPO coupled with all of the new amorphous metal developments and partners and owners. The billions of that potential still trades around a dime.
The liquidity less often under $300,000 daily. What gives?
Any verifiable LQMT contracts? Or connection to one?
Any verifiable LQMT contracts? Or connection to one?
LQMT trade show event…
https://liquidmetal.com/liquidmetal-mdm-west-2022/
Would have been more informative IMO, had they released the info in a PR.
Nothing has changed, has it? Not even the cordiality to be more transparent IMO.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Yes it demonstrates that the company is not worth much in this case. It’s a negative not a positive.
When a company drops from a market cap of $396 million to $103 million dollars it’s not a bragging point in my opinion, unless someone wants to see the share price drop.
These are also facts. The only non fact is my opinion about bragging about $103 million as being a signal of support towards any executive. Especially li, who also lost the most in terms of dollars. As for value every one lost the same value when the stock dropped for five years now. To around a dime. As stated in my recent posts, touting the market value of LQMT is in my opinion not a very positive indicator. Especially when it has lost 74% of its market cap, it’s share value for five years now.
Read this post. It may be helpful.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=168484486
Market cap is important when the stock becomes important to potential outsiders. Market cap of less than $300 million is not important to outsiders who do not own stock. In fact it is a deterrent to anyone with a company in decline based on 10K revenues and anemic trading volumes of less than a half of one percent. Any market cap under $300 million dollars is worth dukas. Especially when the outstanding shares are above 900 million.
A market cap below $300 million prevents many traders from buying LQMT stock even just for risk. The brokerage houses restriction on these micro cap stocks are very clear. It is why many have to choose online trading venues owned by the big brokerage houses. Touting that the LQMT stock has a market cap below $300 million with over 900 million outstanding shares IMO, is not a very good idea. It’s another indicator to keep away from LQMT and not buy. Even if it is a fact. Not all facts are good to talk about or tout. Like the 10k revenues of 2021 vs the 10K revenues of 2020. It’s actually touting a negative not a positive in lieu of the fact that when li completed his purchase of LQMT stock that market value climbed from $100 million to above $300 million and back down to $100 million. It’s another reason not to tout Li’s stock ownership.
That’s not how the enterprise value or net worth is determined. The market cap of this micro small cap stock like any other stock fluctuates daily by multiplying the outstanding shares by the current trading share price. And due to the anemic trading volumes it too is subject to wider swings. But in no way does the market cap determine the company’s net worth. That data can be found in the financial statements of LQMT’s 10Q’s and 10K’s. If the financial statements are too difficult too understand, a course in accounting 101 & 102 will definitely explain how a company’s net worth is determined by the current rules of the F.A.S.B.
It’s one thing to hype the potential for LQMT. It’s a whole other category to misinterpret a company’s net worth.
In any event li has failed to prove any net worth beyond his initial investments in LQMT six years ago. He definitely is no Elon Musk, Steve Jobs, Jeff Bezos etc. forget about li. IMO, LQMT needs more contracts not more sycophants.
There are no irons in the fire. There is not even a fire. Not even one lit ember. And from the extremely low anemic trading volumes daily, often trading below 1/10th of 1% of the company’s stated float, IMO, there is no strong belief in Li or the company. If there were, the daily trading volumes would be above 2% to 4% and the stock’s share price would be above 0.50 cents daily and moving higher on actual consistent contract revenue growth that has been missing for ten years now, instead of trading on actual fluff, hype, theories and small contracts that increase annual growth, with extremely low pennies from 0.06 cents to 0.18 cents for the past few years.
The other known constant which cannot be construed as either positive or negative are the supportive long term shareholders (myself included) who have either maintained there long term position or added to it. The reasons why long term positions are no longer a positive or a negative factor are the facts that long terms very rarely sell. A point often made by others as well.
There are no new increased demands for the stock from insiders, outsiders who own stock and outsiders who don’t own stock in LQMT.
Li’s shares are not irons, and neither are theories, hype or fluff that have no direct connection to LQMT. Any possibility for a connections are not irons. Any probabilities are not irons. LQMT working on any possible contracts are not irons. Any prototypes alluded to by LQMT are not irons. There are no fires either to burn any forward worded commentary.
LQMT needs new contracts to start a fire. The old ones are dying out with an occasional flicker of welcoming small contracts. These rare small welcomed contracts often over a year apart have been sufficient in popping the share price a nickel or two. Enough for anyone to earn $$$$$ during these wash rinse and repeat cycles. Other issues creating more of these cycles are unrelated to any revenue growth to date that remains dormant are the partnerships with manufacturers and distributors. Another strong factor are the hypes and expectations of those times, when the pps pops up before a 10Q or 10K. The news from these events are often disappointing and ignored by those who hype or over anticipate. Even the initial expectations of the price to drop below a nickel or more from the disappointing CC & 10K news is overhyped as the pps first settles around a dime.
It takes weeks sometimes months for the bottom to be reached not days in LQMT, due to it’s low trading volumes. In hindsight the low trading volumes help, when the news is bad. They (the low trading volumes) cushion the affect of the drop in pps.
The fact that long terms are holding is the biggest factor of stabilizing the pps. But not a factor in the stock’s actual worth. That factor is always determined by LQMT’s ability to add revenues by fees and contracts.
The current share price does not reflect the actual net worth as actual data from LQMT’s filed 10Q’s and 10K’s always have shown accumulating operating losses.
Just like hype, rumors or theories, and unverifiable hype and fluff and theories of any mentioned products that may be using amorphous metal or in fact are using amorphous metal, have no impact on LQMT interest, the long term shareholders no longer sway the share price either one way or the other by virtue of their nonexistent trading. In essence they are no longer trading.
It looks like almost all of the trading being done now is from short term speculation. Why? Because after the pps rises on news or expectations it drops back down in a matter of hours and either profits are taking place from wash rinse and repeat cycles or other short term positions are cutting their losses. The volumes then go from anemic back down to extremely anemic.
Not my opinion, but a fact from past and present observations from LQMT’s releases. Based on those facts of 40% to 50% drops and pops it seems crazy to me for anyone not to want to make $$$$$ from LQMT’s consistent short term pops and drops, while holding onto their long term position. It’s not a statement for anyone to buy or sell LQMT shares. It’s a proven strategy for anyone to use. It does not increase the risk nor decrease the risk for LQMT to succeed. In fact it may be a good starting point for anyone to be interested in LQMT just as an investment for earning money. Again the long term success can only be accomplished by LQMT’s abilities to sign contracts for consistent growth.
The strategy for a short term position is to earn money while waiting patiently for LQMT to succeed. The money earned can either added to the long term shares to average down or to spend anywhere else. It does not increase or decrease LQMT’s potential long term, not one iota.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
186,000 shares trade stock drops 5.4%. What the heck is that?
Anyone?
As a long term shareholder I’m not looking for some spice! To satisfy my short term shares. I’m looking for a contract worthy of the BEEF, all are waiting for, to satisfy everyone’s shareholding positions.
Heck, that’s all they ever serve are the condiments! Where the heck is the BEEF to put it on??? There’s enough spice in LQMT to last another decade.
Besides I’m tired of those baloney sandwiches they’ve been serving me at each new cycle.
I’m looking for a new menu now. One that sells Tesla for the entree and Apple for desert and a little bit of ConMed for eating too much.
Well said.
Yeah, if you go by that logic, one could say it looks like some or someone wanted to sell today at any price.
Some see the glass of LQMT half full and some see the glass of LQMT half empty. Whether the glass is half full or half empty There are still some who see the glass for what it’s worth. About 0.11 cents and nothing more until there are more contracts.
When you read comments around IMO, cherry picking data, it would be wise to give zero weight to the data. A prime example is when anyone states 1/2 of the truth as the entire picture as if it were the whole truth. Today is a prime example of this. Someone touts a million shares traded just now and that it is sign of more accumulation. But what about the one million shares that sold off earlier today? What was that? More manipulation? more short selling without a profit? Neither explanation make any sense as the stock is basically unchanged, and the share price trades within its range based on extreme low interest as stated a gazillion times in many of my posts.
Be it one million or two million or three million. Those trading volumes indicate ZIP ZILCH NADA ZERO information.
A half of one percent of the float trading equals nothing. The money collectively involved is only a few hundred thousand dollars.
Incorrect. look at the buys and sells!
Thats exactly what all executives have been stating since 2017. from the Open House debacle, the Power Upgrade debacle and throughout the newly formed Yian formed partnerships of high-volume capacity. Same was indicated with hope from Engle and Materion years prior. No Hype. Just patience, patience, patience. Not this quarter or the next or the next one after that. Just follow the money in the liquidity, in the daily trading volumes. They have to be above 3% of the float.
I know your hype and expectations did not pan out. I wish it did. It's better to earn dollars on the long-term shares than pennies on the short-term shares. I'll take the money either way.
What makes these word’s so excellent; IF, WOULD, & COULD ? The answer is nothing. And when theories of more opinions are construed as some sort of basis to exploit a stock like LQMT it is nothing more than the same old hype that has been used in seeing something that in reality is not there.
Especially when they are combined in one thought expressing a statement.
At least LQMT is honest about their hype. At least LQMT states for all shareholders to be aware of the use of forward worded commentary and statements.
Anyone who learned anything about the hyping of theories of others and touting day in and day out of some sort of March 2022 explosive announcements to send LQMT stock above fifty cents in fantasy land, to actually find out that the March 2022, 10K and CC WAS A COMPLETE DEBACLE, one would think, learned a lesson in integrity and being totally disingenuous.
I would love to see LQMT go up to fifty cants on hype or pumping and rumors. I believe many outsiders agree with that. But take a good look at the trading volumes the price of LQMT stock and take a good look at the long term charts. Those are the facts. The trend has been south not north. From a five year to a ten year chart it’s south not north. The larger pops are from two IP sales and from the cash received and not from contracts of revenues earned from selling amorphous metal parts. The smaller pops are from LQMT announcements of restructuring, partnerships and small contracts.
Their are no pops from imaginary whales anywhere or imaginary cash flows from anyone else selling amorphous metal parts abroad. Actual DD of the just released 10K is very clear about those facts. There are no IFS, no COULDS, no WOULDS in LQMT’s bottom line of LQMT. And definitely no explosions or explosive CC announcements of any kind in March 2022.
In fact there was no HYPE, no PUMPING from LQMT. Just an honest portrayal of LQMT by those executives operating LQMT.
The CC and the 10K may not have been what all were expecting. But at least it was done with facts. All may have been disappointed. I know, I was. But I wasn’t disappointed about anyones hype or theories. I was disappointed in their bottom line and outlook and their ability to grow the company.
All who saw the daily trading volumes knew there would be no surprises, no explosive news. Yet many still question reality.
Some still think that a million or two million shares trading mean something. Some think it’s a positive sign of some sort and don’t understand that it is not and it is stil extremely anemic against the float. They actually think the stated float reported by the company is actually a lot smaller. In essence they are stating LQMT is fraudulent in their fiduciary responsibilities.
However entertaining these theories may be, they are not facts and they are not true. Unless anyone believes LQMT is putting out misinformation.
As far as I know and all here know, I don’t know much. You invest your hard earned money to make money, be it short term, long term or both. And to bash anyone for earning money that way or trying to help others do the same IMO, is ridiculous.
Now if anyone is trying to earn money by hyping or pumping or spreading rumors, that’s great. I think that’s great. Especially for the share price of LQMT. Who knows it might work. But at least say so. Otherwise IMO, it is totally disingenuous and very transparent.
My opinions are always worth less than the price of LQMT.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Trading volumes are still extremely low share price too. There does not seem to be enough jumping and shouting coming out of LQMT these days.
And knives and tennis racquets and baseball bats.
It’s over? Huh? When did it ever start? It’s still in the very low pennies. You know the sub basement. What day did it crawl out? I must have missed it.
It’s over? Shoot I missed another opportunity. Oh well.
How many times has the hype of a million shares traded meant nothing? Better yet how many times has a million shares traded meant anything positive Long term since LQMT has traded?
That’s what a million shares in the first few minutes of trading factually means and not hypothetically.
A million shares trading for a few minutes means BS, unless it’s followed up by another million shares bought or sold every hour. Now based on actual facts, that’s when a million shares means anything bought or sold.
There have been many days when a million shares have traded since LL entered LQMT. The stock went up from 0.06 to 0.44 and back down to 0.06 and averaging around a dime for six years now. Why? Because a million shares bought or sold is anemic, extremely low and in the case of LQMT a very strong indicator that the company and its share price and cash burn and operating losses are a failure going nowhere.
When 10 million shares are trading in the first few minutes, now that would be something factually worth noting and hyping all over the world.
Keep it up. I just need 0.04 cents to sell another wash rinse and repeat cycle this year.
Since 2017, LQMT down 73%.
Another week passes and LQMT is down 22.6% from 0.155 to 0.1199 on extremely low trading volumes. The shares of LQMT are subject to wider price swings due to the anemic trading volumes. This still causes confusion and paranoia by some to believe the price of this anemic trading stock is being manipulated.
Restated from last week: “Until the 10K is stated. Let’s believe that all of the hype of CE, Auto, Medical and any other industries across the www are the reasons why the stock is up. Why? Because I don’t see the huge contracts yet, or the increase in stock interest or the accounting of revenues so far as being the reasons why LQMT still trades above a nickel.”
It’s obvious from the above after the CC the fundamentals have remained the same, the hype was just hype that too has not changed, so too has been the anemic trading volumes and the share price of LQMT lingering around 0.10 cents a share occasionally piping up or down by a few pennies.
Expect more of the same hype theories, anemic interest pops and drops as LQMT continues to struggle with growing shareholder value and inking deals of any kind.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
As always you’re analysis is accurate as was stated on the CC AND IN THE lqmt 10K of March 2022.
Anyone looking for factual proof of any kind of revenues from LQMT, will just have to wait for the first quarter’s 10Q. As it should be very clear beyond any gray area, that no outsider posting incessantly about a 10K explosive report have any ideas of certainty one way or the other. Although I for one and a few others expected no explosive March 2022 explosive report to push the LQMT stock higher, I was way off with my positive annual earnings assessment of 1.2 million to 1.7 million.
Who knew existing customers decreased orders in 2021? And expecting LQMT to be more transparent so that shareholders could have a better clue of what’s going on with LQMT and their investment…well all I can say is hell will freeze over first before that happens. LQMT only communicates only, when legally obligated to do so. It speaks to their character, good, bad or indifferent. Putting it nicely; it sucks in my opinion. Since my opinions are always worth less than the share price of LQMT, that too means nothing to LQMT and others.
Good luck to LQMT.
Look at volumes above 1% as an indicator of progress or in some cases the sellout exercise of stock options by executives.
I would like to think selling options were based on real growth rather than real hype and real rumors. Is it any wonder few trust TC.
Correct, for the next wash rinse repeat cycle. Have accumulated again from 0.105 to 0.096. 0.16 would be a 60% gain. I’ll be happy with 0.145 to 0.15.
Place a buy order good until canceled.
You have zero facts connecting to LQMT.
Zero connections to LQMT. That’s a fact.
Li selling is a consideration. The hard part is rationally reasoning out why he has not sold or why he continues to hold. Even at 0.50 a share there is not sufficient volumes to handle that type of off market trade. There’s realistically no serious demand for shares under normal operations. So the rationale must be if he doesn’t want to bailout at 0.03 cents, he might at a point in time when trading volumes will handle large volume trading. There might be a point in time where BMG comes into play or a huge contract with an established medical whale, combined with auto. Otherwise its just dead money at any price on paper.
Remember not one penny from BMG to LQMT.
That’s correct. Zero relevance to LQMT.
That is not Due Diligence of any kind applying to LQMT. Due Diligence of LQMT is a study of all records that applies to LQMT. Partnerships in LQMT come and go. Sales throughout the years is very poor from all industries in which LQMT has sales in.
What is the purpose if any that directly applies to LQMT? Is Yian going bankrupt? If Yian is increasing in revenues, it is not increasing from LQMT orders. Any increase from LQMT was recorded in 2019-2020. It's been downhill since.
Do you not see the direct correlations between the revenues from orders the year before 2021 and the year of 2021? Did you not hear the interim CEO TC
tell everyone revenues are down, not up?
Stick with the facts OF DD that applies to LQMT, IMO, would make more sense and have more credibility. Now I know I am ignorant, But I do know that the DD that affects Verizon stock has nothing to do with LQMT.
What does that link have to do with LQMT and any value for LQMT shareholders? Other than LI, I don't know anyone else invested in Yian Tech.
Want to know what real DD is? It’s not in theories, it comes from facts. There was about a billion dollars in revenues from amorphous metal parts sales last year. How much of that was from amorphous metal CE? Finding out the answer might seem like real DD. Like a great find.
So for example since I believe no one is going to take the time to figure that one out. Since that figure does not come from hype or theories or hope or expectations.
Let’s just say all of the revenues earned from amorphous metal sales, the whole one billion dollars came from amorphous metal parts used in CE. Got it?
Now set aside all opinions and all biases just for a moment. Because sometimes you don’t have to know all of the facts to know the facts. It’s like your favorite subject algebra.
To know the real facts about LQMT, ask yourselves this and then do your own DD and post it. How much revenues were earned from amorphous metal CE before the LQMT/Eontec agreements and after they were signed and stated excluding any contracts with the Swatch Group?
Hint: after the LQMT/Eontec agreements LQMT, earned zero dollars from amorphous metal CE sales. On the other hand they were earning millions quarterly before the ip of CE was sold to Apple.
Now that’s Due diligence.
There are reasons why LQMT has not announced any sales contracts regarding CE. It’s like the amorphous metal revenues question at the top. You don’t have to know all of the facts to know the facts.
Those facts are why LQMT trades in anemic volumes and why they still penny trade up and down 10% 20% 30% or 200% and not closer to a dollar.
Good luck to all in LQMT.
Not to disagree. I value all opinions. But, when it hits 0.75 to a dollar and volumes are 15 million to 30 million shares trading daily, I’ll consider that to be significantly higher. I never bought in to see pennies. When the stock trades up or down one hundred or two hundred percent on this very low BS VOLUME daily, without revenue increases then the share price is BS TOO.
Worthy only of those short term trades I started to employ back in late 2017. I invested for long term, meaning at least six years initially. Back then LQMT had starts and stops and all based on some real potential value for the very near future. It was all BS due to the inept executives leading LQMT into cash flow problems of debt. Those sales of ip during the past 12 years only raised cash and unfortunately not brains. Management still remains inept burning through that cash and having nothing to show for it by way of actual revenue growth.
The only growth in LQMT IMO, are the outsiders opinions about hype theories and expectations for LQMT from some rollers.
Without contracts it’s all BS. They have leads. They don’t have a management structure to sell in place and have wasted over 27 months and six more million in cash failing to acquire a high volume domestic manufacturer or a whale that can afford to do the manufacturing for them as the backup..
Just my opinion of the facts, which are always worth less than the price of LQMT and much closer to any other truth that might be out there.
Until that day of contracts, (not the BS nickel dimes totaling less than a million dollars annually) and until the days volumes increase above three percentage points of the float, I’ll gladly take those nickel dime twelve thousand, twenty five thousand and 40 thousand dollar profits that most theorists, hypers and pumpers have stated will never ever happen again and mock. Theories are one thing, and I guess pumping and hyping and dreaming of grandiose ways LQMT will make $$$ are another.
My opinions are you invest to make $$$$. Earning $$$$ from any stock does not require more theories hype, expectations of the same failures year in and year out for over twenty years for me and less for others. It requires brains. Unfortunately for me it took 17 years to learn that with LQMT.
Perhaps from my writings some will learn to to earn and do the same instead of repeating the same LQMT mistakes. It will only happen when one detaches their emotional pissed off attitude from LQMT and learn how to turn their (LQMT’s) failures into green. It’s never the wrong size and never the wrong color. And it makes no difference whether you’re in the green or red regardless of what anyone’s average investment price is. You don’t let money sit idle in a stock. Especially one like LQMT, where IMO, the majority of positives are from outsiders comments and not the insiders and their actual results which don’t even match those expectations half way.
Without contracts I could care less when LQMT trades at 0.06 0.10 or 0.18 with trading money less than a million, less than half a million and less than a quarter of a million dollars daily. It’s BS. It makes your portfolio look good on paper. But go sell a million shares. That’s why it’s BS. Low liquidity, low volumes, low earnings, low earning contracts, increased operating costs (which should be the only thing lower) and on and on and on.
What million shares?
I don’t think words can pump anything about LQMT’s share price anymore. But 600,000 to 900,000 shares sure can. It’s the only sure thing that pops or drops the share price.
Good grief. Sounds like you found the mole.
At least in that respect there’s consistency. We’re there any that might have not have had that particular quality? Going back 20 years in LQMT, I can’t remember.