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Thanks for the info Belinda...my conviction is less than before, but maybe one day we will see decent revenue.
She's down some today...just my opinion, we see .003's within the next 2 weeks.
lukin...you mentioned a couple of days that this could break higher...the share price is now lower. Just wondering, do you now think higher or lower from here?
This company hasn't put out any news in a long time...are they doing anything or taking investor's money? Thanks!
Re: radio...Joe, you are right - come on people, mute or get your a$$ of the call. The noise each time is horrible and disrespectful to everyone. Very good point Joe!!!
SFOR has a little of something going on because they have revenues each quarter...just not as much as most of us would like. A company cannot have and report over $150K of quarterly revenue for doing nothing or having nothing.
Yes, other's opinions would be great to hear too. $805,000 for 2012 was a big improvement from 2011, but short of forecasts. This latest quarter just seems too low, especially when it takes so long for deals to be inked, meaning, SFOR has huge debt, hardly any cash, and if something doesn't happen (like lots of cash from infringement), the situation will be horrible (it is close to that now IMO).
One thing I give kudos to management is that they have spent years of trying to develop products for a future need. It is hard to predict market acceptance years ahead. And yes, Trucuzzn, there is a lot of things happening where SFOR can be part of the solution(s). I hope SFOR can hang on and companies, government, and other consumers will purchase SFOR products. I hope IT departments quickly respond to SFOR solutions...unfortunately, it has been slow going so far. SFOR needs a large cash infusion from ANY source/of ANY kind, and then, we might have a chance of long-term survival. IMO.
I was ready to buy in around .004, but not now - I'm thinking a safer entry point would be somewhere in the .0016 to .002 area. We've been there before, not sure if we will see it again that low (yes Scot, we all know you think the ship will completely sink). Just too risky right now for a commitment of my money. IMO.
Belinda...that is correct, litigation projections were left out on the webex. It would even be nice to hit the lower end of the (non-lit) projection for 2013 which is $1.5MM...as we both know, that is a stretch right now. It will be interesting to see what Mark says on the next webex, because so far, he has mentioned SFOR is still on target. Lets see if he can justify "on target" during the webex, or if he will man-up to the shortfall. If the shortfall isn't addressed, I will ask him about it.
Coco...we've heard "deals are in place," or "deals are close to being signed," and "deals have been made, but the revenue hasn't been included in this quarter's figures" before. Not all deals turn out to be really profitable as mgmt. has found out in the past. I hope the numbers come in better in the future, but for me, I have to see something better to jump in. I think the current share price is too high for where SFOR is right now.
With infringement revenue, who knows what kind of numbers we will see...if there's revenue at all. Don't get me wrong, I hope SFOR survives, but I'll reiterate, it is in rough shape (it pretty much says it in the 10K). IMO. Now, for those that want to pull me under the rug about 10K language, meaning, a lot of companies use the same language...I already know that is the case. Overall, the numbers don't lie even when people have high hopes that their "excellent, cheap stock" will make them a millionaire one day. IMO
If SFOR is to meet revenue forecasts of $1.5MM to $3.0MM for 2013, they better pour it on and heavy because $161,000 of revenue for the first 3 months isn't helping that much. There was another net loss for the quarter. IMO, if SFOR doesn't obtain at least $500,000 of revenue by the end of the second quarter, then, they will fall very short of the 2013 forecast. The numbers this quarter weren't impressive at all. She's hanging on by a thread. IMO.
Oh yes indeed, just like I believe everything you think and say!
ani...I sure did! Thank you!!!
Meaning? Thanks!
Wow, no shares traded yet. The MM's aren't letting go. Anyone heard of any news yet?
I own shares in other companies that have also filed late, and they have given different reasons than the hardship reason. If I remember, the last one was on time, and most before that haven't been. SFOR is cash strapped and yes, the revenue hasn't been coming in as fast as projected and needed. IMO
She's late again for their reason it would cause undue hardship. Is the reoccurring revenue and money from newly signed contracts all gone?
Thanks!
Any idea what this news will be? Thanks!
I'm new here...there hasn't been news out from this company in a long time. Sounds like it makes it even riskier not knowing what is going on. Why do some of you like this company?
What happened? This thing is reversing BIG?
Belinda, what do you think about the recent 8k? Major dilution or was it done in an effort to help the balance sheet (somehow)???Thanks!
Right on!!!
Looks like there's a very good chance she'll close under .006 because it's trading in the .005's. I'm betting we see .004's soon, not sure about .003's. Without any SOLID news, she probably will trade a lot lower than the .007 and .008's we have seen for a while. IMO.
Boring day with SFOR...no volume or swings yet.
Should see this stock go up soon whether or not Apple is going to pay up. IMO. If I'm wrong, then the range we've been in for a couple of months (.15-.17) was all about "anticipation" of winning lawsuits. Should have an announcement soon about successful litigation.
Should have some news out soon about lawsuits (either suits against others or against SFOR). Maybe in the next few days?
Thirty thousand what? Dollars, shares, or maybe sticks of gum? They PR wasn't very clear about the thirty thousand.
I would say you are probably right...however, there's always two sides to every story. Just trying to stay optimistic about SFOR, although, I have thought the share price has been way too high prior to today's crash.
Anyone talk to Mark about the lawsuit against SFOR yet? Wondering if they are going to "vigorously defend" the allegations or if this will take SFOR under? I plan to try and get a hold of Mark very soon. If anyone has info, please share. Thanks!
Going to see some volume this week...not sure yet what direction though. IMO. Holding steady so far today.
Cabroncita...how long have you owned this stock? Do you think more people are long or short with this company? Thanks!
Hi Everyone...I'm new here, and have done some DD on DUCP and it seems that most or long on the company. Anyone care to share what they think the short-term and long-term potential is here. I'm also open to hear what shorts have to say too. Thank you!
They already did alert...it went north and then south real fast, and now it has stabilized. Some very good buys today!
Deer22...are they usually right with their forecasts?
Thanks!!!
Ok, help on this one regardless if you are long or short. Does this company not have a business phone that is a landline? I just tried calling Ali and it is a cell phone and his mailbox is full. Is there not a secretary or someone else to field investor relations? I too was going to ask about the website among other things. Thanks for everyone's input!
Infinite...welcome to how it works here! Once you do what you have done another time or two, you will KNOW for sure how this stock trades. Can only pay too much for so long! Best of luck, and I hope it does pan out here.
He probably won't answer you.
Another dive on share price...is she going down for a long period or is she going to pop back up and down like a yo yo?
Well put proUBRG...net profit is where it's at!