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just part of being in the best position ever....right ?
And THAT..........is so flippin OBVIOUS have to be deaf, dumb and blind to not see it.
IRREFUTABLE!
IFthe patents were "all they've been emued up to be", there would exist such a massive windfall to any owners of the patents, over the next 10 yrs or so, that for a measly billion or 2, they would VERY SIMPLY be irresistible to buy. Soooo much comes with them, simply irresistible for any CEO of BOD to say nah, to.
Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha IF IF IF IF IF IF IF IF
Plain and simple... If you can't explain it to a 6 yr old, you don't understand it yourself...
If there was infringement and/or if the big dogs were scared, they would simply buy or license the patents. And they would've done so long ago so as not to allow their competitors to usurp them.
At least 1 of the many many voip service providers would've done so. They defend themselves or fight in court so as to not lose by default.
mic break in two
There are no infringements
There are no tested patent results
There are no truthful PRs
There are no voip service provider companies running scared
There are no talks or real talks
There are no deals on the table
There are no interested parties (in buying)
There are no scruples
There are no ethics
There are no royalties
There are no settlements
There are no prospects
There never was any incorporation of the tech into vplm platform
There never will be a buyer of this junk
The best position ever is when everything is smoothly running in terms of the selling selling selling of the inside and the still working printing press and the still working personal ATM
********PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE IS THE SOMA OF THE RETAIL MASSES*******
Most likely never happen... They're not running scared, none of them are....they all know better. If they were scared, WHAT'S TO BE SCARED ABOUT? ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS GO TO PETTY CASH AND GIVE A HANDFUL TO THE GREAT EMU AND PRESTO CHANGO IT ALL GOES AWAY.........EXCEPT.......THEY NOW OWN THE GREAT AND FANTASTIC MUST HAVE, FOUNDATIONAL, CANT LIVE WITHOUT, P.A.T.E.N.T.S., SO NOW ,GEE, LETS SEE, THEY ARE IN TOTAL CONTROL OF THE #1 FORM OF WORLDWIDE COMMUNICATION AND EVERYONE AND THEIR UNCLE WILL BE BEHOLDING TO THEM FOR ROYALTIES AND ALL THEIR COMPETITORS WILL HAVE TO GO POUND SALT and on and on and on. Wow.....THAT SURE IS A LOT TO WORRY ABOUT AND RUN SCARED FROM.
GIVE ME A BREAK ...... ABOVE MAKES SO MUCH SENSE ITS RIDICULOUS TO TALK ABOUT COMPANIES RUNNING SCARED. ALL THAT DUH TALK ABOUT "THE PROCESS" IS JUST SILLINESS IN THIS WORLD OF CUTTHROAT GOINGS ON AND THE CHASE FOR THE BUCKS. ITS NOT ANY STINKING "PROCESS". THAT'S JUST THE EMINENCE FRONT TO HAVE THE NAIVE' BELIEVE THERE'S A PROCESS. IT AINT NO PROCESS! ITS REALITY! ITS THE REALITY OF HUMAN NATURE AND HUMAN INTELLIGENCE THAT LEARNS AFTER AWHILE OF EXPERIENCE HOW TO CRAFT A PLAY THAT KEEPS ON GIVING FOR YEARS AND DECADES WHILE THE AVG RETAILS AGONIZE OVER THE FAKE DETAILS.
been calling it right for years after years .......and it always pans out. Over 15 yrs since the ninjas allegedly were paid close to <ahem...> some $18 mil and ever since the only ones to get money are ea and every BOD of digi and vplm plus all the large support group friends family helpers, goombas, supporters, blue light special buyers for fractions of a cent and all the gifting and selling and share printing and pumping ..........
UNLESS YOURE BLIND)
That's either too funny or pitiful.....can't decide....
That's why vplm is the epitome of the comedy and tragedy of stocks
Hahaha......the monkey wrenches never stop do they? Like I said, another seven and a half to eight yrs, MINIMUM
Standby for how it's a GOOD thing. Such clarifications are always welcome
If you only knew...
You've heard of "where's Waldo" and maybe you've heard of "find the pope in the pizza" games. Milton Badley announces a new family game. It's called "Find the lies in the PR" and features bonus points for the most lies found. How many can you find?
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BELLEVUE, Wash., July 11, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Voip-Pal.Com Inc. ("Voip-Pal") (OTC Pink sheets:
VPLM) is pleased to announce that in response to inquiries made by VoIP industry companies, it is
preparing to license several of the revolutionary proprietary digital voice technologies contained in the
patent portfolio recently acquired from Digifonica International (Gibraltar) Limited. The VoIP industry has
identified five specific patents which contain competitive and licensable technologies:
1. Rating-Billing-Routing engine (RBR): (Producing routing messages for VoIP communications);
2. Lawful Intercept (Intercepting VoIP communications and other data communications);
3. Enhanced 911 ("Emergency Assistance calling for VoIP communications);
4. Mobile Gateway;
5. Uninterrupted Transmission of Internet Protocol Transmissions during Endpoint Changes.
Voip-Pal is currently beta testing these technologies with several major VoIP industry providers in order
to establish a monetary value for each patent.
The licensing of these patents can create a highly profitable additional revenue stream for Voip-Pal.Com.
Dennis Chang, President of Voip-Pal.Com, states: "I am pleasantly surprised at the level of interest
shown by major players in the VoIP industry with respect to the patents held by our wholly owned
subsidiary, Digifonica International (Gibraltar) Limited. As the company finalizes integration of this
technology with our retail site, www.pointsphone.com, Voip-Pal.Com anticipates to be well positioned to
not only rapidly gain market share in the VoIP mobile phone market but in a position to earn tens of
millions of dollars per year in licensing fees. This diversification of the revenue stream should be a
substantial bonus to our shareholders."
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How many could YOU find?
Does anyone find it curious at all that Dr gil amelio never made a 2nd offer?
hehe
Too bad no outsiders know what the hell vplm is.... If it was known, you could probably get pretty good odds on a patent sale in Vegas...
Maybe if someone tells them the patents are most definitely worth billions and billions and billions and are the absolute leader of the voip world, according to its leader and in their best position ever, then they'll give some odds?
Lol. I'll work on it.. New crappy phone trying to figure out history access...
Look at the 1 month chart....damn....looks like someone jumped off the rock of Gibraltar (Digi)
Also looks like it's headed back to the 1 and 2 cent range... I'm surprised it's held onto the 4s this long.
I think it was yesterday I posted about how when vplm spikes, it's never long lived and it tends to always be headed south. And it never reaches what most would consider respectable prices for ""THE LEADER OF THE VOIP WORLD" [sic] except for a couple of fleeting moments over the past 15 yrs. To illustrate, 4 to 5 mos ago it hit 11.44 cents. That......was a 5 yr high. Pitiful for a stock our leader tells us has trillions of infringements AND for which we were supposed to start collecting royalties over 10 yrs ago.
Red alert red alert ....pump and dump coming soon to a small screen near you. Don't get quart short.
THIS JUST IN.........
"That confirms that the value of the patents are a farce."
BUT THE VALUE OF THE STORY............is priceless!
I know, right ? Esp since according to the Emu, every single voip service provider a d user in the world is a vplm infringer!! And IF IT WAS REALLY SO FREAKING VALUABLE......ahem.....you'd think we'd want to keep it and start taking it in and backing the trucks up ??????? I know I know .......sit down, shut up and have the patience of a god.
So what happened to those old lying PRs from many years ago that spoke of "deals on the table"......and imminent sales or licensing with fortune 500 and s&p 500.companies which our various bod told us they couldn't talk about due to NDAs....... EXCEPT, lololol.....they DID TALK ABOUT IT by mentioning the imminent deals and deals on the table, etc......so either there were no NDAs .......or........it was ok to talk about the imminent deals so long as no specific details were divulged .......or they ignored the NDAs and nothing happened or the buyers reneged. All I know is the PRs and the so called conference calls and the "south Park" debacle, lol, were often ripe with talk of imminent and mandated deals about to happen. In 1 case we were told a deal was happening, only to have the ceo of vplm later tell us they were lied to and it was bogus, hahahaha.
But now........ we're supposed to believe there's no news due to NDAs. Oh, ok.....I'll buy that.....................................not.
But not would still be quite interesting to know the value of the gifted and sold shares, let's say for the past 1 year. Orca, you have those numbers, no? Rough est?
Atl scientific just published a study that alleged pennystock shareholders who regularly tout their buys, sells and profits, are truthful on a scale equal to that of avg prisoners who claim their innocence...wow. whoda thunk? The prisoners numbers were a tad lower..
Just imagine if shareholders tried to cut and run, this turkey wouldn't last an hour before collapse. It would be like the bank scene in it's a wonderful life. And emu would step up and offer you a nickel.
$126 million........hahaha...lololol
$126,000,000 market cap
shows what a joke market cap can be...
Totally unrealistic.........
Worth is more like 126,000,000 sheets of toilet paper............the cheap brand
Complete hogwash. You couldn't get $126,000,000 out of this company if you had 126 million years! and a toothpaste squeezer
"financials".....lol....that IS funny when you think about it.........but.........what about all the zillions of dollars of "revenue" in share selling? What do you think fills up that personal ATM? C'mon now, let's not 4get all that hard earned revenue.
I wonder what's the monetary value of all the shares sold by emu and wife in relation to "paying bills"....
It's "joint" and simple meaning is:
What does joint stipulation of dismissal mean?
It's basically an “agreement” letting the judge know that the court can dismiss (end/close) the case pending against you.
And should be with or without prejudice
Joint Stipulation of Dismissal Without Prejudice, filed 09/14/2022 - FEC https://www.fec.gov/resources/cms-content/documents/tpf_ctr_joint_stipulation_of_dissmissal_without_prejudice_09-14-2022.pdf
For whomever it may concern...using gn instead of kn in knostics, denotes a religious aspect which I didnt want to do. Thus, when only speaking about knowledge, knostics seems to make more sense. For example, it doesn't take a nag hammadi gnostic to know that it's normally spelled with a G. It takes only the correlation of knowledge to knostic or "knowers". It is those knowers that I figured might explain why the need for NDAs if the BOD has no material knowledge whilst selling the farm, or.......if they indeed DO have material knowledge, how can the sales take place legally.
Be gnice to gnow
KNowledge =
KNostic
In a similar vein, but not from so lofty a height, I have decided to name something that has been provoking me for some years now. I need a name for a tendency that attempts to resist Gnosticism while simultaneously falling into something else very much like it.
Let’s call it knostic, shall we? The ancient error of gnosticism came from the Greek word for knowledge, gnosis. The Gnostics claimed to have an extra spiritual “something,” a spark of heavenly knowledge, which trumped everything down here. It has come to mean a disparagement of the earthly and material, and a privileging of the rational, spiritual, or the abstract. I have taken the English word knowledge and, using the latest advances in gene splicing, have translated this ancient tendency into its modern English-speaking form — knosticism.
Let me give an example of it, the kind of thing I have been valiantly standing against for lo, these many years, and then move on to how it applies to Galli’s treatment of liturgy.
Many modern knostics have wanted to learn how to appreciate the arts of narrative.
Seems like the emu, wife, chang, can't gift/sell quick enough massive amts of shares...
WHY? Does it portend good things to come??
.......or not so good?
Do shareholders really believe they (emu, wife, chang) DON'T KNOW ANYTHING MATERIAL? Is that possible? Why would there be any need for NDAs if they don't know anything? But if they do know stuff, then how can they continuously be selling selling selling? I'm sure the knostics can explain it all.
Looks like next filing mid August
Meanwhile, back at the ranch...
Pps goes nowhere except downward bias.....as has always been the case for this, this, this 3 ring circus (print press/share selling/personal ATM). And what else to expect....what with all the constant, never ending sells sells sells from the emu and wifey?
Have no fear...the cabal (emu and his whole supporting cast) is hard at work (little birdie told me) putting together the next humdinger mega whopper pump campaign. It becomes harder and harder over time due to the BWCWS (boy who cried wolf syndrome). It's become next to impossible to move the pps up. Last time few weeks or couple mins ago was about 11.4 cents and didn't last too long. That was also based on some hyperbolic conjecture. It's like a wave, then gone.
I think there will be another pump real soon. It may have begun with Emu and his fluffernutter PR. It was nothing, but the cabal will take it, much like the $18 million engineers took the money and turned it into nothing (the patents) and kick start this puppy once more only to see it stall out pretty quickly so be on the lookout, esp if all you need is a few cents more to get your head above water.
Around 10 y rs ago, when I got hip to the company shtick....
I said this'll go on for 10 yrs like this..
It did and then about 2-3 yrs ago, seeing the writing still on the wall, I posted it'll go on for another 10 at least (based in virnetx case which doesn't contain all the vplm style bs).
Another 7 & a half to 8 yrs to go....at least....maybe more. You can do it standing on your head... The word is: thrive on it. It's the epitome of the line from the little known original version of "every breaking wave" that tells: "every gambler knows, that to lose, is what they're really here for"
Nah, I bet the next filing will be so fudged and smeared it'll look like status quo, all good
1st chance to check stock today and saw the great Emu's fluffy PR. Pocket lint wrapped in marshmallow. Let me say this....the Emu reads this board regularly. You can bet on it. He uses it as a gauge for what to say or not say anything. Normally his bent is to say nothing as long as his cash flow pipeline is flowing and if he sees that his loyal subjects are spending their time figuring out how to decipher all the crap as ultimately boiled down to praise and emu worship for every move he makes or doesn't make.
But sometimes he sees that the natives are getting a bit too restless, in this case, regarding the selling off of zillions of shares. So he sees that a number of his marks are very upset by it and some even getting out before it's too late, but also sees the majority slowly but surely keep the faith in him and "best position ever" and the now extremely stupid "patience is a virtue". So that's his queue to put out a PR, weeks later after the recent legal maneuverings, to pop in with a meaningless piece of fluff that says nothing outside of "ok kids, just sit down, shut up, move to the back of the bus and keep up your loyalty and forever patience to give us the time to sell off more massive amounts of shares and drive the price down to worthlessness, and you guys can stay entertained by all the legal crap that never results in anything and serves only keep playing y'all like a banjo. And I know I don't have to say how grateful the wifey and I are at the lovely lifestyle you provide us with. we wish we could sell those dang patents but we know they never will so here we are globetrotting and loving every minute of it. And we now know that most of you, my loyal subjects who worship the ground I walk on, will let it go on like this for years more. For that we thank you so much. All you have to do is keep reciting the 2 mantras...... PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE & WE'RE IN THE BEST POSITION EVER! just stay focused on that and everything will be everything
Where the hell is my 50¢ ???
Is that too damn much too ask for billions upon billions upon billions of dollars of patents??? Especially after waiting for 10 yrs. I mean.....ccccome onnnnn.... I know 2 nine year olds with a lemonade stand that blitz you every day of the week. Sheeeeeeez
I was wondering what you meant by that
WBw.... There was an amendment made about 6 mos ago. In effect only since sometime in April I think. It contains something I hadn't seen before about a checkmark but I don't think it's simply to note voluntary use of 10b15-1. Hard to understand it.
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Insiders that report on Forms 4 or 5 will be required to indicate by checkbox that a reported transaction was intended to satisfy the affirmative defense conditions of Rule 10b5-1(c) and to disclose the date of adoption of the trading plan. Finally, bona fide gifts of securities that were previously permitted to be reported on Form 5 will be required to be reported on Form 4.
There is nothing in the SEC laws that makes it necessary to disclose the use of Rule 10b5-1 to the public, but that doesn't mean companies shouldn't release the information anyway. Announcements of utilizing Rule 10b5-1 are useful in warding off public relations problems and helping investors understand the logistics behind certain insider trades.
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https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rule-10b5-1.aspSEC Adopts Amendments to Modernize Rule 10b5-1 Insider Trading Plans and Related Disclosures
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
2022-222
Washington D.C., Dec. 14, 2022 —
The Securities and Exchange Commission today adopted amendments to Rule 10b5-1 under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 and new disclosure requirements to enhance investor protections against insider trading. The amendments include updates to Rule 10b5-1(c)(1), which provides an affirmative defense to insider trading liability under Section 10(b) and Rule 10b-5. Collectively, the final rules aim to strengthen investor protections concerning insider trading and to help shareholders understand when and how insiders are trading in securities for which they may at times have material nonpublic information.
“About 20 years ago, the SEC established Exchange Act Rule 10b5-1. This rule provided affirmative defenses for corporate insiders and companies to buy and sell company stock as long as they adopted their trading plans in good faith — before becoming aware of material nonpublic information,” said SEC Chair Gary Gensler. “Over the past two decades, though, we’ve heard from courts, commenters, and members of Congress that insiders have sought to benefit from the rule’s liability protections while trading securities opportunistically on the basis of material nonpublic information. I believe today’s amendments will help fill those potential gaps. These issues speak to the confidence that investors have in the markets. Anytime we can increase investor confidence in the markets, that’s a good thing. It helps investors decide where to put their money. It lowers the cost of capital for businesses seeking to raise capital, grow, and innovate, and thus facilitates capital formation.”
The changes to the rule update the conditions that must be met for the 10b5-1 affirmative defense. Specifically, the amendments adopt cooling-off periods for persons other than issuers before trading can commence under a Rule 10b5-1 plan. They also add a condition that all persons entering into a Rule 10b5-1 plan must act in good faith with respect to the plan. The amendments further provide that directors and officers must include representations in their plans certifying at the time of the adoption of a new or modified Rule 10b5-1 plan that: (1) they are not aware of any material nonpublic information about the issuer or its securities; and (2) they are adopting the plan in good faith and not as part of a plan or scheme to evade the prohibitions of Rule 10b-5.
The amendments restrict the use of multiple overlapping trading plans and limit the ability to rely on the affirmative defense for a single-trade plan to one single-trade plan per twelve-month period for all persons other than issuers.
The amendments will require more comprehensive disclosure about issuers’ policies and procedures related to insider trading, including quarterly disclosure by issuers regarding the use of Rule 10b5-1 plans and certain other trading arrangements by its directors and officers for the trading of its securities.
The final rules require disclosure of issuers’ policies and practices around the timing of options grants and the release of material nonpublic information. The rules will require that issuers report on a new table any option awards beginning four business days before the filing of a periodic report or the filing or furnishing of a current report on Form 8-K that discloses material nonpublic information, including earnings information, other than a Form 8-K that discloses a material new option award grant under Item 5.02(e), and ending one business day after a triggering event. Insiders that report on Forms 4 or 5 will be required to indicate by checkbox that a reported transaction was intended to satisfy the affirmative defense conditions of Rule 10b5-1(c) and to disclose the date of adoption of the trading plan. Finally, bona fide gifts of securities that were previously permitted to be reported on Form 5 will be required to be reported on Form 4.
The final rules will become effective 60 days following publication of the adopting release in the Federal Register. Section 16 reporting persons will be required to comply with the amendments to Forms 4 and 5 for beneficial ownership reports filed on or after April 1, 2023. Issuers will be required to comply with the new disclosure requirements in Exchange Act periodic reports on Forms 10-Q, 10-K and 20-F and in any proxy or information statements in the first filing that covers the first full fiscal period that begins on or after April 1, 2023. The final amendments defer by six months the date of compliance with the additional disclosure requirements for smaller reporting companies.
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Insiders that report on Forms 4 or 5 will be required to indicate by checkbox that a reported transaction was intended to satisfy the affirmative defense conditions of Rule 10b5-1(c) and to disclose the date of adoption of the trading plan. Finally, bona fide gifts of securities that were previously permitted to be reported on Form 5 will be required to be reported on Form 4.
* looks like I forgot to paste in the part of the form 4 in question even though it's lost it's formatting in the copy/paste. So here it is this time.
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Sorry for the formatting issues but this is what's found on the form 4 to indicate it's a 10b5-1 sale.... A sig and a date. That may also be optional in the case of a10b5-1 filing but I'm not positive about that. The only 1 of 2 form 4 filings by babs were I think dated and signed. If that's the case, and the sales were previously setup, does the filer have the right to stop then sales considering what it's doing to the pps?
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Remarks:
These transactions reported were effected pursuant to a Rule 10b5-1 trading plan entered into by the reporting person effective January 26, 2023.
/s/Desiree Combs, Attorney-in-Fact for Gregory Becker 03/01/2023
** Signature of Reporting Person Date
Sorry for the formatting issues but this is what's found on the form 4 to indicate it's a 10b5-1 sale.... A sig and a date. That may also be optional in the case of a10b5-1 filing but I'm not positive about that. The only 1 of 2 form 4 filings by babs were I think dated and signed. If that's the case, and the sales were previously setup, does the filer have the right to stop then sales considering what it's doing to the pps?
Some real good points.. Certainly the selling is important....regardless if to you or me because as you point out, there seems to very little doubt as to correlation between the selling and the pps. I'd also point out that the pps is as important as ever, ironically BECAUSE of the selling/price dropping, ie, some feel enough is enough and are looking for the exits but while they're doing so, if there's a drop from 10 cents to 4 or 5 cents, that can make all the difference in the world. So......that illustrates how very important the sales are........AND........AT THE SAME TIME.......no words of help, hope or encouragement or explanation of all the sales from the great Emu, plus as you noted lawyer sales (which may very well be absolutely necessary, all things considered...) Plus I think I saw some chang sells and no doubt other members of the support group are selling as well as they always are.....so well what this says no screams to me......is the knowledge of what's going on and coming and the commensurate beginnings of jumping ship.
Oh, by the way, are you sure there's a check box for 10b51? I could swear when I researched that the seller is not required to divulge this am but can if they so choose to by signing and dating.